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#101703 - 05/18/05 09:10 AM
Outrage Over Animal Killing Porn
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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Most people need to feel outraged about something. If you don't feel outraged about something important, you will get upset about something trivial. That pornographers are getting so outraged over the animal killing of SexyOutdoorSports, it primarily shows that their moral compasses are broken. There are many things in the industry worthy of more indignation than this.
For porn girls in particular, excessive attachment to animals (and animal rights activism) is a way to assuage the basic female need to nurture which is healthfully satisfied by having children.
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#101704 - 05/18/05 09:50 AM
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Porn Jesus
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i eat meat but i've got to be honest that i don't like people who kill animals just for the sake of killing animals. if your not going to eat it or its not going to kill you then leave it alone. It does seem strange that this is getting more attention then the girl who got snuffed out a few months ago did.
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#101705 - 05/18/05 09:55 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
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i thought it was garbage simply because those weren't cape buffs that kill hunters, they were basically oxen or dairy cows. i'm outraged we need to import them from the asiatics and at how totally divergent our species is. you've got some people who are really getting close to "people version 2.0" and then you've got complete dullards who will do bestial, prideless acts for the same amount of money as it costs for 2-4 people to eat at an exceptional restaurant ordering cheap wine.
porn people are weird--i'm convinced it's they view animal-rights as their only chance at showing they have some moral compass. they've blown their credibility with humans, animals may be smarter than nacho, but probably don't look at the rest of them as totally subhuman. for some porn chicks, animals may be the only thing with a hearbeat and warm blood that doesn't try to hurt, manipulate or take advantage of them. or it could be a coverup for becoming addicted to sex with german shepards, since we know most of them have done an internet scene with one from the spam headers we get.
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#101706 - 05/18/05 10:05 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/25/04
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i thought it was garbage simply because those weren't cape buffs that kill hunters, they were basically oxen or dairy cows. i'm outraged we need to import them from the asiatics and at how totally divergent our species is. you've got some people who are really getting close to "people version 2.0" and then you've got complete dullards who will do bestial, prideless acts for the same amount of money as it costs for 2-4 people to eat at an exceptional restaurant ordering cheap wine.
porn people are weird--i'm convinced it's they view animal-rights as their only chance at showing they have some moral compass. they've blown their credibility with humans, animals may be smarter than nacho, but probably don't look at the rest of them as totally subhuman. for some porn chicks, animals may be the only thing with a hearbeat and warm blood that doesn't try to hurt, manipulate or take advantage of them. or it could be a coverup for becoming addicted to sex with german shepards, since we know most of them have done an internet scene with one from the spam headers we get.
Of course most women in porn love animals, for the reason you mentioned, unconditional love, it won't ask wheres its been and with who, wheres the money, hurt them physically or mentally and will always give it the attention they need when they need it. Regardless of the selfish reasons the girls like animals shouldn't discount people killing them for no good reason other then just because they can. I hate peta people almost as much as jrv, i think they try to fight everything pissing off people that could get behind them if they choose to pick their battles better and go after the ones they could win instead of taking on everyone but i don't think killing something for the sake of killing it is a worthy reason, live and let live unless we are talking about jrv in which case im happy to take him down with me.
I also think that people who bestiality do it because they love to fuck animals not because of the money. Bestiality for pay is like gay for pay, it doesn't exist, you either have a fetish for hardcore animal love or you don't. I would rather fuck a dude then an animal and i can't see any amount of money that would have me rub mine against another mans let alone blow or bang a dude.
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#101707 - 05/18/05 10:32 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/28/04
Posts: 4450
Loc: The Planet Houston
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Most people need to feel outraged about something. If you don't feel outraged about something important, you will get upset about something trivial. That pornographers are getting so outraged over the animal killing of SexyOutdoorSports, it primarily shows that their moral compasses are broken. There are many things in the industry worthy of more indignation than this.
to an extent, I'm going to call bullshit. YES, there are other issues, but to downplay this one as an observation of “a broken moral compass†is nonsense.
It is justifiable to get worked up over this.
#1) it's fucked up. Bottom line. if it was a buffalo, duck or whatever.
and the fact of the matter is that all them fools with their little "gossip" sites clowning AVN for taking a stand, would probably drop all their smugness if the animal in question was a dog or cat.
Some bitch puts two in Spot's head then does an anal next to his rotting corpse?
oh wait, NOW it's ok to say "Hey that's not cool"? fuck all that. them cocksmokers need to shut the fuck up and get on board.
Like I said I don’t care if it was a donkey or a fucking Chihuahua. It sux. A lot of things suck. but don’t stop looking for a cure for cancer because you still haven’t found a cure for AIDS
#2) this shit is tailor made for the channel 7 news. especially with sweeps month how long do you think it'll be before this shit hits the air?
I mean geezus christ....you know them mother fuckers are as crooked as a snake just waiting to present this to the mindless masses at large that THIS is the porn of today. You know that.
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For porn girls in particular, excessive attachment to animals (and animal rights activism) is a way to assuage the basic female need to nurture which is healthfully satisfied by having children.
hogwash. I think that can be said about women in general. how many broads do you see with a dog sticking out of their purse or walking some mutt. Chix dig animals, Horses, dogs, cats whatever...it's not just porn chix.
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#101710 - 05/18/05 01:25 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/28/04
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Loc: The Planet Houston
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You think you own whatever land you land on
The Earth is just a dead thing you can claim
But I know every rock and tree and creature
Has a life, has a spirit, has a name
You think the only people who are people
Are the people who look and think like you
But if you walk the footsteps of a stranger
You'll learn things you never knew you never knew
Have you ever heard the wolf cry to the blue corn moon
Or asked the grinning bobcat why he grinned?
Can you sing with all the voices of the mountains?
Can you paint with all the colors of the wind?
Can you paint with all the colors of the wind? 
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#101712 - 05/19/05 05:29 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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The Chinese have a saying:
ching chong ding dong chee mong do.
roughly translated it says:
All the creatures of the earth with four legs and their backs to heaven are food, except for the table and chairs.
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#101714 - 05/19/05 10:13 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/25/04
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You know its fucked up when an indian is appalled, they used to kill everything.
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#101716 - 05/19/05 02:00 PM
Re: Outrage Over Animal Killing Porn
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 1946
Loc: Outer Space
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You guys bring up some damn good points. I love animals, and I think it has a lot to do with the maternal instinct that most women have. Biology has made women into mothers automatically. My boyfriend and I were driving home from dinner the other night and I saw a stray dog crossing the street-- I screamed at him to stop so we could pick it up but he told me I was nuts and kept driving. He was probably right... I've already got a dog who is totally crazy, I don't need to adopt another one!
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#101717 - 05/19/05 03:21 PM
Re: Outrage Over Animal Killing Porn
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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Only in portn is it acceptable to stuff 2 cocks up a girls ass until she's a bleeding mess, ram a few down her throat until it ruptures, pump a few gonnorea and chlamydia fillled loads in every orafice possible, and then tell her she's on her own to pay the medical bills. And if you get hiv the industry will then print unflattering pictures of you, call you a skanking whore, and forget about you before the next scheduled shoot. But god forbid you do any harm to an innowcent buffolo that was raised in captivity for the sole purpose of being hunted by someone willing to pay the money to pull the trigger.
And now everyone is contacting PETA to get on this companies case.
If PETA had any credibility they would go after the porn industry that treats HUMANS like nothing more than disposable animals.
IS it just me or is the idea of porn producers calling for the ETHICAL THREATMENT OF ANIMALS, just a little bit hypocritcal considering how they treat human beings.
And isn't even funnier seeing these posrn starlets crying about these poor animals but doing nothing at all to help the abused(not all porn people are abused) humans in their own industry.
And AVN is still running ads for videos shot in brazil and other places by talent who then come back to infect their coworkers here in porn valley.
If half of the people in porn cared about humans half as much as they cared about these animals then maybe their critisism of this company would have some credibility. But standing up for animal rights while remaining completely silent about the rights of human beings is the epitomy of hypocrisy.
How much money have porn people donated to these causes? How much money have any of these people put up for those infected whit hiv in your industry? The answer to the second question is very close to absolutely nothing.
Now if you will excuse me i'm going fishing. And yes, I am going to kill those fish,and barbque them in a light lemon sauce with a hint of garlic. Maybe I'll even videotape the cleaning of the fish.
For the record, I too find this type of entertainment disgusting and worthy of all of the critisism that is being thrown at them. But lets get the priorities straight here people. In pron it seems that animals are worth more than humans.
Too bad there wasnt this much outrage when people were getting hiv. And did anyone notice that the one year anniversary of the outbreak went by without hardly anyone mentioning it at all. I'm sure Darren, Lara , jessica, and miss arroyo are very happy to see that their onetime fellow porn performers are SO concerned about these innocent animals, while showing absolutely no concern for them. What a great industry.
I'm sure that cytheria atn tyler are both very genuine in their concern for animals and that is commendable. But just imagine if these two used their status in the industry, with the help from ksex to fight for the rights of their fellow performers to be treated at least as good as they want these animals treated. Now that would be something positive, but for some reason i doubt it will ever happen. I hope i am wrong.
I CHALLENGE THIS INDUSTRY TO TREAT HUMAN BEINGS WITH THE SAME LEVEL OF RESPECT THAT THEY DEMAND FOR THESE INNOCENT ANIMALS.( Yes, i know, this is a joke) Nobody in their right mind will ever believe that the porn industry cares about the people it uses.
Edited by helpme (05/19/05 03:39 PM)
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#101718 - 05/19/05 04:03 PM
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 1946
Loc: Outer Space
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Ouch. Good point.
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#101719 - 05/19/05 04:07 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
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cruelty to people is a lot more sporting than shooting a cow. if you had a bad childhood, shitty parents, your skin is the wrong color or someone touched you when they shouldn't have you should be entitled to a mulligan or two but where does it stop? there are too many examples of talent and will succeeding in spite of disadvantage to warrant protecting everyone who's life isn't perfect. it's not like oppurtunity never presents itself-people find scholarships and ways to scrape by for a few years and end up more impressive than their classmates. you can do time and become the owner of redlight district and prey on the same disadvantaged group you came from. there are too many people, period. it's absolutely worth the time to make sure kids in africa survive to their third birthday and have a shot at living a good or bad life, but if you're 24 fucking embrace the fact you've lived to adulthood, and decide whether you like the idea that you've got a free will and power to change your wretched condition---or you can just be a career-victim. i'm not sure i want to hand you a life-preserver if you choose the latter when it's time to sink/swim.
they've got opposable-thumbs. even if they're mentally-handicapped, i'd still put them right behind lions as fair game, but well ahead of the asian water buffalo, which is in essence a jersey cow. but much more asian.
it comes down to paying someone close to $1000 for a few hours work despite the fact they are totally unqualified to do anything other than migrant labor versus shooting a defenseless animal several times before killing it, then pissing and fucking on its carcass.
when platinum x puts out a video where they do that to chicks, i'll rethink the situation.
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#101721 - 05/19/05 04:21 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
Posts: 80
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Ouch. Good point.
I'm not sure if holly randall is related to the photographer suze randall, but i would like to point out that during last years hiv crisis that suze randall made a contribution of several thousand dollars to AIM and even went to the clinic for several days to help out.
It just goes to show that there are some people who care. Just not enough.
I think she was probably the only industry person who made any significant donation at that time.
Would any other industry people on this board like to say how much they donated to help these human beings last year, or are you too busy writing checks to PETA? I imagine there will be no resposnses at all to this inquiry.
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#101722 - 05/19/05 04:37 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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bingo. People chose to be in this biz. they didn't fall ass backwards into a double penetration.
what the fuck did the animals do? Live?
Monstar, I want to make it clear that i too find this 'entertainment' to be completely disgusting, but the point I am trying to make is the 'responsibility" of performers.
If you, as a male performer, stick your dick in a girls ass and cause an injury that requires medical attention, youhave to take a portion of the resposibility. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT YOU DO. IF YOU INJUR SOMEBODY, EVEN WHILE PERFORMING A CONSENSUAL ACT, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
I made a similar point in a different thraed a few months ago. Every golf couse has a sign that reads "GOLF AT YOUR OWN RISK" That does not mean that if you get hit by a golf ball you assume the respopnsibility. What it means is if you hit a golf ball and do damage with it you are responsible, just like any male performer is responsible for injuries caused by his 'tool'
And for the record, these animals are bred and born in captivity with the sole intent to sell them to any hunter who puts up the money to shoot them. That is specifically what these animals are raised for. I personallyfind this pretty disgusting, but two dicks pumping hiv up a gils ass is pretty disgusting too.
Like you said 'people choose to be in this buissness" That is absolutely true, and when you choose to do something that harms someone else you are responsible. If i choose to work in the construction field does that mean i have no recourse if somebody drops a hammer form the tenth floor and it hits me in the head. Of course there is inherent danger in many prog=fessions, it does not mean that you are not liable ifyou do any of those inherently dangerous things that causes injury to somebody else. Perhaps porn lawyer Don Hollywood would like to comment on this.
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#101723 - 05/19/05 04:43 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/25/04
Posts: 8662
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Theres alot to read here. I'm surprised that kyoto hasn't checked in on this, i almost hope they kill stray cats in the next one just to see on avn two weeks later that every person in charge of the company and their families have been slayed Keyser Soze style.
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#101724 - 05/19/05 04:50 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
Posts: 80
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Lets just pray that they never come after the monkey.
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#101726 - 05/19/05 05:12 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/28/04
Posts: 4450
Loc: The Planet Houston
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but the point I am trying to make is the 'responsibility" of performers.
If you, as a male performer, stick your dick in a girls ass and cause an injury that requires medical attention, youhave to take a portion of the resposibility. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT YOU DO. IF YOU INJUR SOMEBODY, EVEN WHILE PERFORMING A CONSENSUAL ACT, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
but this is an entirely different agenda. a VALID one, but different none the less.
I agree, OF COURSE performer's need to take responsibilities for themselves & others concerning protection but that is not what we are talking about.
I really wanted to make that clear in my first post in this thread.
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#101727 - 05/19/05 05:23 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
Posts: 80
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MOnstar, I agree, i've gotten off the topic. But with all the hoopla about running these people out of the buissness, I just dont see why nobdy tried to runn TTBOY out, or the fact that Marc Wallice still has a job in this industry. Why is there absolutely no concern at all being shown for the health and safety of the HUMANS in this industry. Male talent fucking trannies, still going to brazil and thialand, girls with ripped assholes and ruptured throats, gonnorea and chlamydia running rampant, not to mention herpes, hpv(which causes cervical cancer) and hepatitis.
If the HPV virus caused prostate cancer i bet there would be something done about it.. Now there's a little food for thought for all the female industry workers here on this site who claim that they're having a great time in the industry. Talk to me five years ag=fter you've left the buissness and have to wear a colostomy bag because your ass doesnt work anymore.(Kami)
But please, dont harm any innocent ANIMALS.
WHY HAS NOBODY EVER CALLED FOR A BOYCOTT OF THE COMPANY THAT EMPLOYS MARC WALLICE? If, and I say if, he did inteltionally hide his hiv how in the world can anyone justify boycotting sexy outdoor sports and not the company that says its ok to intentionally infect people with hiv. How can any female in this buissness ever work for that company? Oh, i forgot, these are whores who care about nothing, not even themselves, but who try to make themselves feel better by sticking up for a dead buffalo.
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#101728 - 05/19/05 05:25 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
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as much as i don't care for the gaping, shitbeating and gangbanging stuff there's just the point where i don't give a fuck. people take horribly dangerous jobs like working alaskan fishing rigs because it pays more than they could otherwise earn. if you don't understand you're being paid an hourly rate that exceeds almost all of the elite lawyers and consultants out there for taking risks and doing whatever circus trick sells you shouldn't be living independantly. look around you on this place or adt-there's a vocal majority that goes apeshit over double anal and other revolting shit to the point they're a noncompetitive market if you give them their fetish. the companies would be idiots to not embrace that market, and the girls should understand they're court-jesters being paid to do unpleasant things in the name of selling movies to the degenerate-crowd.
if it was at forced-labor at gunpoint, i'd object. otherwise, they've presumably seen what goes on in some movies and they're getting paid well for basically doing one of the least-important jobs in society. what the fuck do they produce other than semen in someone's living room? i don't know how much people would mind if they replaced porn performers with realistic cyborgs. some of the girls are already 30% there with the surgery. there are rules to getting paid not to do anything substantially productive-go to college, tie a tie, learn specialized terminology to justify it and porn can't even play that game.
so much shit's not right-i just refuse to protect somoeone in their 20's making a grand a day from the reality of what they're doing.
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#101729 - 05/19/05 05:36 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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"Getting paid well to do the least imprtant job in our society" Well stated jamesn. AMEN
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#101731 - 05/19/05 05:54 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 04/06/05
Posts: 959
Loc: The Outer Labia of Jenna Haze
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I agree, the only animal that should be killed in porn is the human pussy.
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#101732 - 05/19/05 05:59 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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Exactly, like boxing you get paid to get in the ring and potentially not make it out. No one forces people to do certain jobs unless you are in a chain gang work crew. The animals didn't choose to be killed for amusement.
But in boxing there is a referee in the ring and a doctor at ringside should anything go wrong. Porn has nothing. And to be a professional boxer you must demonstrate to a state athletic commission that you are physically fit to perform.It is not "like boxing" in any way.
To compare boxing to porn as far as health and safety goes is like comparing apples to oranges.
The animals were raised by humans for the exact reason which they were used, to be shot and killed by someone who paid good money to do it. It costs money to raise these animals and the payoff comes when the hunter shoots it. Its just buissness. Disgusting, yes, but just buissness, just like porn. How is killing a buffalo any less repugnant than Max dressing up the talent to look like little girls and then molesting them. No outcry from the industry on this issue. Maybe we should put max in a boxing ring and see what happens.
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#101733 - 05/19/05 06:16 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 7888
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Ok then, so put a ref on set.
Is this Jewel? 
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#101734 - 05/19/05 07:20 PM
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 07/07/04
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#101735 - 05/19/05 09:36 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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A cockroach on the set of Fear Factor has more protection against harm or injury than a porn performer.
That it what this industry considers you to be if you are a performer, less than a cockroach. Especially the female performers. No matter how deep the denial, or how much some of these female performers will tell you they love what they do, in reality the people who hire them feel they are worth less than a cokroach. And to any performer who disagrees I have one simple question for you to answer truthfully to youselves, "why does a cockroach being used in a mainstream television show have more protection than I do? The answer is that the people who hire you think you are worth less than the cockroach. Brutal yes, but all too true. So all of you porners out there keep fighting for those buffalo rights, maybe someday you will be considered equal to that buffalo, but you have to get past the cockroaches first.
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#101736 - 05/19/05 10:11 PM
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 07/07/04
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A cockroach on the set of Fear Factor has more protection against harm or injury than a porn performer.
That it what this industry considers you to be if you are a performer, less than a cockroach. Especially the female performers. No matter how deep the denial, or how much some of these female performers will tell you they love what they do, in reality the people who hire them feel they are worth less than a cokroach. And to any performer who disagrees I have one simple question for you to answer truthfully to youselves, "why does a cockroach being used in a mainstream television show have more protection than I do? The answer is that the people who hire you think you are worth less than the cockroach. Brutal yes, but all too true. So all of you porners out there keep fighting for those buffalo rights, maybe someday you will be considered equal to that buffalo, but you have to get past the cockroaches first.
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#101737 - 05/19/05 11:47 PM
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Fuck all you guys and your long posts. I'm going to go chop down a tree for no reason other than I can.
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#101738 - 05/20/05 07:18 AM
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Registered: 04/21/04
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I made a similar point in a different thraed a few months ago. Every golf couse has a sign that reads "GOLF AT YOUR OWN RISK" That does not mean that if you get hit by a golf ball you assume the respopnsibility. What it means is if you hit a golf ball and do damage with it you are responsible, just like any male performer is responsible for injuries caused by his 'tool'
I think you're fundamentally incorrect here. If you saw the sign, then were hit in the head by a wild shot. You shouldn't go looking to blame others. You knew where you were, and what you were doing.
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But with all the hoopla about running these people out of the buissness, I just dont see why nobdy tried to runn TTBOY out
Where were you? There was a very large very vocal group of industry people and fans calling for his head.
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or the fact that Marc Wallice still has a job in this industry.
Again, a very large very vocal group of industry people and fans are still upset about this. We even make fun of his hopeful death on this very board.
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Talk to me five years ag=fter you've left the buissness and have to wear a colostomy bag because your ass doesnt work anymore.(Kami)
Probably a cheap shot at Kami, but regardless . . . . do you really think this situation would be anyone's fault(morally, not the basic physical fault, as that would be multitudes of penises and dildos) other than her's?
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But in boxing there is a referee in the ring and a doctor at ringside should anything go wrong. Porn has nothing. And to be a professional boxer you must demonstrate to a state athletic commission that you are physically fit to perform.It is not "like boxing" in any way.
Why? Because it isn't regulated enough? Now you're tripping over your own feet. So, you would be okay with it if there were a proctologist and legal advocate for the performers on every porn set?
At what point are people able to assess a risk, and accept it(or refuse to take the risk, god forbid) in your view?
You know what? I think the government should provide something similar to every single human whenever they leave their house, or even move a muscle for that matter. We wouldn't want some poor soul to walk around a construction site without wearing a hard hat to get bashed in the head by a falling hammer, and then be denied the "right" to sue the living shit out of the foreman, and the guy who dropped the hammer.
Edited to make it clear that the last paragraph in this post is sarcasm. Not sure these days.
Edited by Toelicker (05/21/05 06:53 AM)
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#101739 - 05/20/05 08:47 AM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 02/12/04
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Wouldn't it be plausible to say that the costs of effectively protecting performers would be high enough to basically screw the reason that most of them get in (quick, easy money)?
From what I can tell, porn pays well (hourly) because it's dangerous, not because of the infamy or any other side-effect of appearing in adult films. Now, let's say that there's a doctor on the set, that county/state health codes are enforced (in terms of # of toilets, sanitary conditions including unbreakable lights and a lot of other stuff that most non-employers take for granted, as well as the obvious stuff), and that a satisfactory liability insurance is in place aside from whatever people already have.
This is going to eat at everyone's bottom line, but the people who can least afford it are the performers themselves. Are we now talking about serious pre-screening of new talent, which would probably be required by insurance companies? That would make it a bit less attractive for girls seeking to pay the rent/boyfriend's drugs/gambling debts, if they can't turn it around in the two or three days it takes for an HIV test. The other costs would, let's say, slash everyone's income by about 50% (and I suspect that a significantly higher burden would fall on the performers, not the producers). Is porn still an option for new talent?
So I can see what you mean, but there's a cause and effect outside of Holly's mom opening her wallet and doing the right thing. One company alone couldn't do it: they'd be out of business. An industry-wide change in regulations would effectively make porn safer, but the high-risk job gets the high-paying check.
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#101741 - 05/20/05 09:35 AM
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#101742 - 05/20/05 10:05 AM
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Yes, Suze is my mother, and we have tried our best to help out Sharon and everyone over at AIM.
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