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Monkey your getting soft and philosophical, but in response to your question i think it all boils down to $$$$ and But for the ones that are genuinely disinterested, i think it comes down to a matter of them being dirt poor and really needing the cash and being totally unaware as to what they are in fact getting themselves into. Do you honestly think most of the girls that go into a Meatholes scene have any idea they are about to be assaulted? Or in a Gag Factor scene that they are going to be making weird animal noises while being skull fucked? I think for most of these girls they are in fact naive and are told one thing and what they experience is something totally different. Hearing that youll be doing a B/G scene doesnt tell the full story of how the scene will be accomplished. In conclusion they need to follow the golden rule, and thats that gold rules bitches! Kiss my rings!

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I also disregard kami's response because its clear as soon as her vagina got furry she was no longer a human being.

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This right here is SO worthy of replacing my Luke Ford quote as my sig, but alas, I think it's too long.

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why do so fewer porn stars shoot themselves in the head now than in the relatively more innocent days when the degradation was in the subtext and the perfomers could certainly be called actors and stars by comparison? Is this a hopeful sign, or much more disturbing?

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The observations in the original post are so astute and complete that I have nothing to add. But it occurred to me somewhere in the course of reading this thread that all it would take to bring the industry to its knees is if one of these girls would go public and file charges. It may get hopelessly tangled in legal semantics as far as The Law, but culturally I imagine it would be the equivalent of that shot in 'Blue Velvet' in which Lynch's camera descends into the lush, manicured suburban lawn to find repulsively teeming insects just underneath. I doubt the typical John & Mary Q. Public have any idea. For most people, porn is still the charmingly naughty peekaboo shows of old, not the hateful and sick juggernaut we have today. One gagging UPSIDEDOWN head would do it. It would have tremendous legs as a story in today's oppurtunistic media environment.


P.S. And in regards to the on camera despair that monkey observes in current porn- why do so fewer porn stars shoot themselves in the head now than in the relatively more innocent days when the degradation was in the subtext and the perfomers could certainly be called actors and stars by comparison? Is this a hopeful sign, or much more disturbing?

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I 100% agree with making it public. i mean im sure most of the public are only aware of the lacey unchained and the black cheerleader search 39 lacey duvalle and not the horrific ghetto gaggers lacey duvalle, the ghetto gaggers scene where they tell her they plan to treat her like a whore but leave out the important details such as the grabbing of her chin as they drive their cocks violently into the back of her throat forcing veins to appear on her forehead and her face once a pretty light black turning a weird purple. Its damaging physically and mentally not only to lacey but to the viewer. Dare i say that we need to get congress involved, we have to take this to the top, make them aware. This blows steroids in baseball out of the water, whens the last time jason giambi had his chin grabbed as some hate monger drilled his penis deep into his face or barry bonds had his eyes tapped turned upside down and his throat used as target practise to angry penis activities?. It must be stopped otherwise lives will be lost and the masses scarred emotionally.


OHHH GOD WHAT AM I DOING, WHAT IS HE DOING, WHYYYY

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... I mean im sure most of the public are only aware of the lacey unchained and the black cheerleader search 39 lacey duvalle and not the horrific ghetto gaggers lacey duvalle, the ghetto gaggers scene where they tell her they plan to treat her like a whore but leave out the important details such as the grabbing of her chin as they drive their cocks violently into the back of her throat forcing veins to appear on her forehead

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uh, where can a fella find THAT scene (is there a shame smiley)?

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(is there a shame smiley)?

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I'm surprised Jeff doesn't have this on a boxcover.

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I did something like it on Gag Factor 5.

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I 100% agree with making it public. i mean im sure most of the public are only aware of the lacey unchained and the black cheerleader search 39 lacey duvalle and not the horrific ghetto gaggers lacey duvalle, the ghetto gaggers scene where they tell her they plan to treat her like a whore but leave out the important details such as the grabbing of her chin as they drive their cocks violently into the back of her throat forcing veins to appear on her forehead and her face once a pretty light black turning a weird purple.

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Its damaging physically and mentally not only to lacey but to the viewer.

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Dare i say that we need to get congress involved, we have to take this to the top, make them aware.

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I imagine a Congressional Hearing in which Aurora Snow's 'Gag Factor' quacking sounds reverberate through the hallowed halls, causing animated murmuring and disgust and a crzaed Committee Chairman beating his gavel, red faced and demanding "ORDER!!! ORDER!!!" in such a way that we sense it has to do with far more than the simply the conduct of the people in the room.

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I imagine a Congressional Hearing in which Aurora Snow's 'Gag Factor' quacking sounds reverberate through the hallowed halls, causing animated murmuring and disgust and a crzaed Committee Chairman beating his gavel, red faced and demanding "ORDER!!! ORDER!!!" in such a way that we sense it has to do with far more than the simply the conduct of the people in the room.

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Why hasn't anyone contacted simp to narrate big budget porn movies?. If the only reason is because he finishes every sentence with OHH GOD WHY that can easily be edited out, the good far outweighs the bad.