Fucking hilarious!

Damn, they blew David Bowie's "China Girl"" out of the water.

is that for real?. it's like blink 182 and nickelback ran a train on andy dick and this is what leaked out.

Apparently for real. http://www.thegloss.com/2013/08/01/culture/day-above-ground-asian-girlz/

Slanty Eyed whore from the video

I hate it when asian chicks speak good english. Ruins the fantasy.

I get LA Weekly on fb. They had a thing today that the band lost some big gig because the video's gone viral. I thought only kniggers could be racist.

Believe me, the Asian accent gets really fucking old really fucking fast. It doesn't take long before you are screaming that R's and L's are not interchangeable.

An Asian chick with an American or British accent is the best of both worlds, in the long run.

That chick Levy Tran is really something cute.

It's the rare day when I agree with Al Jolson about anything. Buy your lottery tickets, folks.

Video's now deleted. I assume it was that stupid fucking "asian girls" bullshit? They claim it's "satire" but what the fuck exactly are they supposed to be making fun of exactly?, I guess the average white guy yellow fever. I think the funnier thing is some shit band in 2013 that plays rehash of crazytown mixed with dave mathews band will release something this stupid to try and look 'controversial'. I'm amused at how much shit Levy is getting for letting her self become an asian minstrel. ....stupid fucking cunt.

They're caught in a shitstorm over this. Lots of lost bookings.

At where, local dive bars or the state fair? Who the fuck still listens to this pigshit in 2013? Knots berry farm wouldn't give these cum wipes a patch of ground next to the port a johns.

Yeah. Pretty much. Losing gigs is bad no matter the level.

Where do you play again?

"where do you play again?" You do realize you've just used one of the most worthless arguments to criticism. Commonly used by TOTAL FUCKING MORONS. Do you enjoy being in the company of TOTAL FUCKING MORONS????? Your statement is equal to saying: 'you can't call that shitty movie you walked out of a pile of shit because yooooou've never made a movie!'

FBF, you do realize that stupid people enjoy stupid music, right? I'm not saying these guys are going platinum anytime soon, but if they can make a song that you or I completely despise, then they're on the right track towards making some cash.

Yeah of course. It just boggles the mind that there is some kind of audience for this particular flavor of late 90's reheated dog turds. Kids today seem to either be listening to dubstep or metalcore bands with autotuned singers. Then they'll be the inexplicable band like 5FDP that is still popular playing dumb downed nu metal in the aughts. There's legions of 40 year old tweakers in trailor parks with fading tribal tats who consider Saliva and Adema classic rock, I can't think of a better justification for a 4th Reich.

It shouldn't boggle your mind, man. Turn on the radio for an hour and reevaulate. Music sucks shit these days and there is no shortage of idiots cranking it up and dancing in their cars. I mean, in a perfect world, it would be mind boggling, but I've come to accept the fact that I seem to be the target demographic for nothing profitable. I have met sooo many people that hold Disturbed and Linkin Park in high regard, that sometimes I think I'm living in some big Truman Show joke of a life.

I had the same reaction as FBF. That was my first thought, who are these D'bags and what Everclear record do we blame for this crap? I also have to admit I was impressed when he pulled out Amon Duul the other day. I haven't thought of them since 10th grade, sitting in my bedroom trading records with my neighbor who went on to be the drummer in Jesus Lizard. He would play me Gong and Amon Duul and Can and I would play him Traffic, Zappa and Ponty.

And that right there is the crux of this conversation: Do stoner kids in the suburbs still get deep into obscure music? Yes. As much as we all crow like old men about music these days and these damn kids, there are still "left of the dial" records coming out that we don't get exposed to.

For every Beatles there was a Herman's Hermits. Every Nirvana had it's Everclear. The autotune-slip and dubstep and all the recent trends will soon sound as dated as gated snares and detuned schecters.

The ironing is delicious. Got a rise. Nice.

You and fartz are both right.The nostalgia cycle is around 20 to 25ish years. 50's shit was big in the late 70s. 60's in the 80s. 80s is big now. As someone coming up in the 80s, I seriously never thought that Saxon or Merciful Fate would be "classic" in the "classic rock" way. But it is. Circle of Life.

Yeah, the music of today sucks. But it sucked whenever "today" was. Mainstream music has always sucked. Nature of the business. I do find it surreal that Korn and Limp Bizkit and that whole nu- metal thing was ever big, tho. I mean, yuck.

I didn't listen to the whole song. It was comically racist, but not enough to hold my attention.

I'd like to think that with social media and the ability to use a laptop as a mixing board that stoner kids would be exposed to more "alternatives" to Top 40 or even rock radio formats than they know what to do with. The problem is weeding through all the shit that's out there simply because of how easy it is to record and promote...no matter how shitty your stuff is. One of my clients thinks him and posse are the next big hip hop thing. They're not.

I don't make much of an Everclear/ Nirvana connection. Everclear was gloomy lyrics, but a very accessible pop sound.

My question is would Nirvana be relevant today had Cobain not taken himself out? I've always thought that they peaked and were on the downslide musically. Not to say In Utero sucked, because it was a nicely solid album. But the audience was moving on.

No way to know, but I bet yes. Kurt probably had a few great songs still in him when he checked out. And I don't agree that the audience had moved on by then.('94) Otherwise the shitstorm of Nirvana-wannabe's would have not sold. Now, would they be relevant today? I think for the most part, yes. Singing about pain and alienation still sells.

Nirvana has never been relevant to anything, anytime, anywhere. 'Cept whiners.

Personal taste aside. Nevermind changed the music business. That can't be disputed.

It all depends on whether or not he would have ran Courtney Love through a wood chipper.

You're right, but they changed the biz in terms of image. Looking like jobless heroin addicts became the new glam.

The music business changes so often any one band's "relevance" lasts about as long as one of Tritone's self-imposed exiles.




I don't know about "relevance," but it might have kept a lot of awful "artists" from quitting their day jobs. It also would have made a mighty fine album cover.

Its all bullshit. The only truth is that the chick in the clip is hot.

I have to question them changing the industry. Nevermind sold a ton of units, no doubt. But the industry did what the industry does and always has. It chewed up the creativity and spit out palatable, sellable and safe pablum. Which it did with every other musical movement going back to the 50s when kids stopped listening to what their parents listened to. As for looking homeless onstage, it had been done before. Baez, the Dead...any number of the hippie acts. It goes in cycles. The hippie acts stage image was a backlash to the matching suits of the early British Invasion acts. Disco fashion was a backlash to hippies and the folk era. Punk was a backlash to disco. "Grunge" (I don't believe there was such a thing...it was just punk) was a backlash to the excesses of the hair metal era. They dressed the way they dresses because they wanted the music to speak for itself...along with being poor.. Which is really noble and easy to respect. The problem came when it was taken to the masses. The suits...record execs, music press, the network of sleazy managers, promoters, merchandisers, hangers on...got their fingers in it and tried to turn art into science. The Formula. Something sold, so recreate it over and over and shove it down consumer's gullets until they can't stand it anymore and move on to something else.

I haven't listened to Nevermind in years. Talking about it here made me pull out that album and their Unplugged appearance. Great band. It's shitty how the whole thing turned out...for Cobain and the whole Seattle scene in general.

Was Cobain murdered? I don't think so, but I think there were hangers on who knew he was dead before the electrician found him. His posse were junkies. Tough to call the cops when you're looting the place.

They deserve to be in the Hall of Fame just for getting all that hair band bullshit off the airwaves. Radio and music TV changed dramaticaly in 1991 due to Nevermind. Sure, there was a signing wave of every band to wear thermals and shorts, and many of those bands were weak. But psychedelic bands did not drive british invasion out of the business. Disco did not put an end to rock radio. Punk did not drive dance music off the air.
Nevermind is a milestone in pop culture the same way Meet the Beatles was. It changed the landscape of pop culture. The Beatles killed off the crooners and Nirvana killed off the Sunset Strip hair bands. God bless them for that.

I'm not saying it drove anything off the air, because it didn't. The cream of the hair metal/ metal rose to the top and had longevity. Metallica thrived, but I can't think of any hair bands that did offhand. What I'm saying is that Nirvana and the Seattle movement became the "next big thing". Like hair metal was the "next big thing". Like disco was the "next big thing". Nu metal became the "next big thing" after the Seattle movement slowed down. It didn't die, by any means, but sales slumped and the suits started pushing nu metal.

I'm not talking about one jondra putting another jondra out of business. I'm talking about one genre becoming dominant over the previous big genre.

I'm with you on Nirvana being in the HOF, but not because they drove anyone off the air. Honestly, that attitude is almost an insult to the creativity and art that Nirvana produced. If by some weird happenstance a bluegrass/ hip hop fusion style was the next big thing, no matter how shitty, would you be saying they deserve to be in the HOF because they pushed hair bands aside?

Nirvana should be first ballot when they're eligible. No question. They're influential to this day. But I don't see them changing the landscape of pop culture in a huge way...like the Beatles. Not the way the Sex Pistols did, but pretty close. I guess that's my point. The landscape is always changing. It's the nature of the music industry, it's the nature of musicians and it's the nature of the fan base. Believe me, if the industry thought they could wring another year or 2 out of LA Gunns and Keel, you'd have never heard of Nirvana unless you went to the Kent Skate King.

And they didn't kill off the Sunset Strip bands. At least not all the way. It's a little disheartening how well so many of them are doing right now.

I'll say it again. Nevermind changed the music industry and rock radio/music television. It's not just a saying, it's music business history.

The summer of '91 the biggest hits were Warrant's Cherry Pie and Queenzryche's Silent Lucidity. One traditional metal romp and a bloated power ballad. Within six months of Nevermind's release, both bands were dropped by their lables.

Prior to Nevermind's success, the benchmark for a successful Alt-rock (at the time called college rock) was 100,000 units. Bands like REM, Pixies, Sonic Youth, Replacements were measured in terms of "will they break the 100K sales plateau" and it was a plateau in that 100K was about all you could expect from an Alt release. The thought was that there were only 100K people who would ever buy that style of music. Rock radio (the old guard) did not add these records to their playlists and openly mocked these bands and the only place to hear them was on college radio. (hence the term left of the dial) And the only time MTV would play them was during late night special blocks. (120 minutes)

That all changed with Nevermind which sold 100K+ a week for months on end. Within a few months, radio stations fired program directors and changed out DJ's at an alarming rate. Axl Rose himself lamented the death of hair metal and cursed Kurt Cobain by name. Labels went out and promoted younger A&R guys and started signing acts at a record pace. Bands who were used to a 30K record budget and a 30K promotional budget were now expected to move 500K in order to make it to the next level. Artists like The Smiths, The Pixies, Love and Rockets, etc have been quoted talking about this "sea change" in the industry and how they broke up just before the money began to roll in. They regret it.

The economics of rock music had changed.

The reception those hair bands received had changed. Beavis and Butthead openly mocked bands like Winger and radio station festivals had dropped those bands off their line-ups. They were downgraded to theater and club shows and their merch companies dropped them from their contracts. The shit just didn't sell anymore.

Now, in hindsight...no, hair metal was not completely dead and some of those with actual talent survived. But the game was different. Now rock radio was sequeing from Zeppelin to Soundgarden and the phrase "It doesn't have to be old to be a classic" was added to the DJ script. Soon enough, the next generation of metal bands rose and guess what? They were no longer wearing glam clothes and playing power ballads. They had adopted the long shorts and short-form song writing and become "Nu-Metal". They still were seperating themselves from the spectre of old hair bands at their own design but thanks to the success of Nevermind, they could now sell a million units instead of 100K.

Real metal? Bands like Motorhead, Ozzy, Metalica, Megedeath, etc...they were much less affected by the impact of Nevermind except for the economics. They too were now on a scale where 500K was the new benchmark and it was much harder for them to get adds on rock radio. Those adds were being taken by Nu-Metal and Seattle sound acts and the market was much tougher.

Now of course, everything old is new again. Hair metal revival came and went. (remember metal school?) Some of the old guard industries like pro wrestling never gave up on hair bands and bands like Great White went on to murder clubgoers with their spandex era cliche's.

This sea change in '91 was pretty much the last major shift in the record industry. The next one would be the harbinger of Napster and file sharing and the closure/merger of all the labels. Rest in peace, Charlie Minor.

No. Was that a sequel to Rockschool on PBS?

Actually, if we're going to get into Rockschool, we oughta move this to the tritone thread before the bass player comes up.

metal skool

Agree to disagree. We're both right and we're both wrong.

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