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#469677 - 01/07/10 07:24 AM Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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The New York City Health Department's "Take Charge, Take Care" guide book on how to shoot heroin sparked controversy in January 2010. According to reports, the 16-page booklet cost taxpayers $32,000.











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#469678 - 01/07/10 10:28 AM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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Relax...all these fuckers are about to get premium status in nationalized health care. You'll meet them....they will be in line ahead of you at the ER.
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#469679 - 01/07/10 10:41 AM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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Relax...all these fuckers are about to get premium status in nationalized health care. You'll meet them....they will be in line ahead of you at the ER.




As opposed to now, where they all set up appointments in advance with their private physicians.

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#469680 - 01/07/10 05:05 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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Naw, the fuckers just die. Which, being druggies, they should.
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#469681 - 01/07/10 05:21 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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Naw, the fuckers just die. Which, being druggies, they should.




... and why do you go to the ER so much that you are worried about drug users getting in line ahead of you?

D000d, get a primary care doctor and stop going to the ER for your runny nose and to get a work excuse or to sniff around for a narcotics prescription every time you catch a cold and you'll never notice.

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#469682 - 01/07/10 06:49 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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This is beyond insane....more money wasted, I say let em all drop dead.
And who the fuck has an OD kit, I used for a few years and never had or even heard of that shit.

I am now addicted to Almond Milk from the carton.

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#469683 - 01/07/10 07:35 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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I say let em all drop dead.




This group includes you, no?
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#469684 - 01/07/10 10:23 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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I tried to order an OD kit but they won't send one to me in Canada. Bummer.
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#469685 - 01/08/10 03:41 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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Gyppy:

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This is beyond insane....more money wasted, I say let em all drop dead.
And who the fuck has an OD kit, I used for a few years and never had or even heard of that shit.




Has the thought occurred to you that they intentionally didn't issue you one of those kits? Or maybe you were too fucked out of your feeble mind to notice that these things existed?
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#469686 - 01/08/10 04:08 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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I say let em all drop dead.




This group includes you, no?


I havent used in a few years. So since I dont, I say let em die, if I use ever again, yes I should OD too, I knew my limits, thats how come I never overdosed.

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#469687 - 01/09/10 09:21 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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This is beyond insane....more money wasted, I say let em all drop dead.




It's not money wasted. Harm reduction makes perfect sense. The cost of trying to stop drug use through law enforcement combined with the cost of long term care for junkies who contract HIV or Hep C far exceeds the cost of a harm reduction initiative.

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#469688 - 01/10/10 06:09 AM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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^^ Very true. Very extensive research in Switzerland, Germany and Holland has come to same conclusions.
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#469689 - 01/10/10 08:15 AM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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Have they ever done cost evaluation of poisoning the supply?
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#469690 - 01/10/10 08:32 AM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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Have they ever done cost evaluation of poisoning the supply?




That would be pretty cheap- you wouldn't have to poison it all. Just a small percentage, then get the word out.

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#469691 - 01/10/10 12:18 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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Have they ever done cost evaluation of poisoning the supply?




That would be pretty cheap- you wouldn't have to poison it all. Just a small percentage, then get the word out.




I vote poison the supply.
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#469692 - 01/10/10 01:55 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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A lot of that shit is grown in Muslim countries. They should poison it as a form of jihad.

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#469693 - 01/10/10 02:27 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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on the list of monomaniacal pursuits i'm guessing "douse self in lighter fluid and cartwheel through poppy field" doesn't even crack the top 10. it's probably the one place that remains impervious to attack, and you know how the religious are about exceptions to the rules. greenbacks über alles.

in fact, you would need the personification of jihad itself to go back in time and kill it’s own great-grandfather, thus creating a jihad paradox that would threaten to rip open the very fabric of burka space-time itself. won't happen.

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#469694 - 01/10/10 04:20 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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A lot of that shit is grown in Muslim countries. They should poison it as a form of jihad.




Just a thought. If heroin is such a menace to society, then why haven't have2cit and his comrades at the CIA targeted the poppy fields for smartbombing/napalming?
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#469695 - 01/10/10 05:19 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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A lot of that shit is grown in Muslim countries. They should poison it as a form of jihad.




Just a thought. If heroin is such a menace to society, then why haven't have2cit and his comrades at the CIA targeted the poppy fields for smartbombing/napalming?




I was going to say that they grow it as a form of jihad.



Anyway, I blame the British.


Damn Opium Wars ...
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#469696 - 01/10/10 05:37 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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Well Fatty you can’t win hearts and minds taking an extremely poor peoples means of support away. Most of that stuff goes to Europe, so I say poison away. We’ve actually sent agricultural experts in to set up irrigation systems and to teach the farmers better techniques of growing food, because deep down Muslims detest messing with drugs.

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#469697 - 01/10/10 06:03 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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because deep down Muslims detest messing with drugs.





I believe you are right.

IIRC, the TaliWackers banned opium farming/production at some point when they ran AfghaniTurd.








[So they put a TaliBAN on opium ]
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#469698 - 01/11/10 04:01 AM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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Well Fatty you can’t win hearts and minds taking an extremely poor peoples means of support away.




No, I guess bombing everything that moves is a way better option.


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... because deep down Muslims detest messing with drugs.




True. Even though I know a lot of them use hashish as 'drug' of choice to avoid drinking alcohol.
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#469699 - 01/11/10 04:11 AM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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No, I guess bombing everything that moves is a way better option.




The Romans salted the earth of "uppity" lands. The U.S. point would have been made very well if a single tactical nuke was let go over the 'stan in the weeks following 9/11.

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#469700 - 01/11/10 08:41 AM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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Even though I know a lot of them use hashish as 'drug' of choice to avoid drinking alcohol.




Interesting. I had never thought about that ...




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#469701 - 01/11/10 09:03 AM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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Bullshit, unless he has actually been to Afghanistan he knows nothing. Well that's not exactly true. I'm sure he knows the best dumpsters, behind the red light district brothels in Amsterdam, where he can find used condoms to suck clean.

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#469702 - 01/11/10 09:50 AM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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This is beyond insane....more money wasted, I say let em all drop dead.




It's not money wasted. Harm reduction makes perfect sense. The cost of trying to stop drug use through law enforcement combined with the cost of long term care for junkies who contract HIV or Hep C far exceeds the cost of a harm reduction initiative.


there has been needle exchanges for years, even trucks that go around and talk to them, its not going to work. Of course harm reduction would prevent alot just like giving the whores condoms and by the time they get this pamphlet lots of them already have Hep C.
Oh yeah London is wonderful, you go to the drugstore to get your daily shot, what a world.

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#469703 - 01/11/10 11:27 AM Reply to Cowboy h2c
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Bullshit, unless he has actually been to Afghanistan he knows nothing. Well that's not exactly true. I'm sure he knows the best dumpsters, behind the red light district brothels in Amsterdam, where he can find used condoms to suck clean.




Hey cowboy! Are you implying that only Afghanistan has muslim inhabitants? Because that ain't true.

In the Netherlands, there are also muslims and from conversations with them and reading some books, articles, etc., I learned that the use of hashish instead of alcohol is common.

And why would I go to Amsterdam, if I can find the same quality of brothels with better whores in it within a 20-mile radius? You haven't been making a lot of sense lately.
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#469704 - 01/12/10 09:04 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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there has been needle exchanges for years, even trucks that go around and talk to them, its not going to work. Of course harm reduction would prevent alot just like giving the whores condoms and by the time they get this pamphlet lots of them already have Hep C.
Oh yeah London is wonderful, you go to the drugstore to get your daily shot, what a world.




Who said anything about London?

Anecdotal research is fun, but there's enough research to support the efficacy of harm reduction that WHO and the UN support it. You aren't seriously suggesting that safer sex education hasn't curtailed HIV transmission, are you?

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#469705 - 01/13/10 10:11 AM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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No Im not saying that PIN, but London and other countries were mentioned if you read the thread.
Regarding London and other countries, just cause they give a junkie their morning sick shot doesnt mean they arent out searching all day for more dope and doing it the clean way so I dont think that its such a great idea to go get a free shot. Junkies lives are all about getting and wanting all day long.
Thats just the boost they need to go stealing, or whatever they have to do to use throughout the day.
Harm reduction is wonderful and Ive attended many HIV classes just for my own knowledge. Im not arguing with you, Im just saying that I doubt it will curtail the use of the addict. Being told how to do it properly doesnt mean they will, they still share and use water from puddles, there are still shooting galleries, it will always be the same. Until it becomes legal and taxed that may be the only way it may change a bit. I really dont care to talk about this anymore, I just know Im not living that life anymore, so I really dont care about them, if they decide to use and take the risk, whatever happens, happens. Up to the individual, you want to stop, you stop, end of story.

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#469706 - 01/13/10 01:58 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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Rantfielt:

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No Im not saying that PIN, but London and other countries were mentioned if you read the thread.




What the fuck are you mumbling about? Are you back on the needle? London was NOT mentioned once, before you came up with it. Read.The.Thread.Cunt.

I'll repeat it: London was NOT mentioned in this thread, before you brought it up!


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Regarding London and other countries, just cause they give a junkie their morning sick shot doesnt mean they arent out searching all day for more dope and doing it the clean way so I dont think that its such a great idea to go get a free shot.




These programs usually cover much more than just handing out the 'morning sick shot', but I guess you don't care. Somebody should have given you a free buckshot in your face a long time ago.



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#469707 - 01/13/10 04:01 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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Regarding London and other countries,




London is a CITY.



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so I really dont care about them, if they decide to use and take the risk, whatever happens, happens. Up to the individual, you want to stop, you stop, end of story.




You're missing the point, Ren. ... It's NOT about THEM.

To sum up PinUP: As an expense or drain on health resources or whatever, it's cheaper/better for the REST OF US to have the aforementioned programs.
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#469708 - 01/20/10 09:56 AM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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I agree it is on the rest of us who pay for actual healthcare but I stand by what I say that giving them a free dose in the morning just keeps them chasing all day, and LONDON was mentioned jerkoff, city or country it was mentioned......GO GET A FUCKING JOB!!, You got nothing else to do??? And I am for harm reduction, but obviously you dont know junkies very well, they are stubborn bastards, you can talk and talk they will just yes you to death all the while thinking of where they can get their next fix.


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#469709 - 01/20/10 11:41 AM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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GO GET A FUCKING JOB!!, You got nothing else to do??? And I am for harm reduction, but obviously you dont know junkies very well, they are stubborn bastards, you can talk and talk they will just yes you to death all the while thinking of where they can get their next fix.




If you are talking to me, I was just summing up PinUps points, because like all junkies you can be stubborn and are prone to talk and talk without listening.





If you are debating her views, she would like you to resist using unsubstantiated anecdotal evidence, such as your vast intimate knowledge of addicts, with citations and statistics.




Like do you know of any entity that ended a such a program because it wasn't cost effective?
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#469710 - 01/20/10 03:37 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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Rantfield

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... and LONDON was mentioned jerkoff, city or country it was mentioned....




No, it was not. Do you actually believe I'm stupid enough to make such a claim without checking first? Damn, you're pretty dumb for a junkie; makes me wonder (for a minute) how you survived.


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... And I am for harm reduction, but obviously you dont know junkies very well, they are stubborn bastards, you can talk and talk they will just yes you to death all the while thinking of where they can get their next fix.




I'm also for harm reduction: someone should cut of your hands and sew your mouth shut. With barbed wire.

Oh, and what Fatman said.
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#469711 - 01/21/10 08:13 PM Re: Heroin - 10 tips for safer use
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... and LONDON was mentioned jerkoff, city or country it was mentioned....




No, it was not.




Have to agree with Free, Ren.

The specific countries mentioned before your post on "London" were Canada, Switzerland, Germany, the Netherlands [as Holland] and Afghanistan.

The closest mention of drug policy in London or England or Great Britain or the United Kingdom was my off-topic reference assigning blame to the Brits for Asia's 19th century Opium Wars.




So unless you're talking London, Ontario ...
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