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#341705 - 07/07/08 07:32 AM
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I'm fairly certain that at least five of those states (and 66 electoral votes) are wrong. How often is this map updated?
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#341706 - 07/07/08 07:34 AM
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Registered: 08/09/06
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goddammit, i'm from such a right wing state 
yet they've elected a Dem for governor for the last 2 terms.
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#341707 - 07/07/08 07:35 AM
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Registered: 01/02/05
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Two words: Ross Perot
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#341708 - 07/07/08 07:36 AM
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At this point, I'd even vote for that crackpot.
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#341709 - 07/07/08 07:45 AM
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 05/18/06
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it sickens me that my peeps are going democrat, even just "barely." 
Edited by Gigi Zane (07/07/08 07:46 AM)
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#341710 - 07/07/08 08:24 AM
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Ohio is one of the five I think are wrong, along with Virginia, Indiana, Montana and Colorado.
Pennsylvania could go either way. There's a lot of people to embitter between now and November.
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#341711 - 07/07/08 08:27 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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Loc: red dirt state of mind
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These numbers seem off from what CNN has up. I wonder if this was done before or after Barry back pedaled on Iraq?
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#341712 - 07/07/08 08:42 AM
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These numbers seem off from what CNN has up.
LINK with detailed rollovers.
That's a MUCH different picture, and a bit more realistic. Especially when it comes to Indiana. Per Wiki:
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Indiana has long been considered to be a Republican stronghold. It has only supported a Democrat for president four times since 1900 - in 1912, 1932, 1936 and 1964...
Historically, Republicans have been strongest in the eastern and central portions of the state, as well as the suburbs of the state's major cities. Democrats have been strongest in the northwestern and southern parts of the state along with the major cities. However, outside of Indianapolis, the Chicago suburbs, and Bloomington, the state's Democrats tend to be somewhat more conservative than their counterparts in the rest of the country, especially on social issues. LINK
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I wonder if this was done before or after Barry back pedaled on Iraq?
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"I am surprised at how … the press … I'm not trying to dump on you guys, but I'm surprised at how finely calibrated every single word was measured," Obama said.
Waaahhh... stop quoting me 
ALSO: Triumph des Schwartzenmensch
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#341713 - 07/07/08 11:20 AM
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BTW: Did anyone happen to catch Jughead's short lived "seal" a couple of weeks back? Here it is again:
I love how quickly this one got yanked. First of all, he looks like a little kid playing at his old man's desk. Beyond that, though, how many people are going to see the motto and assume it means "Playin' Possum?"
There's also the fact that it's a direct rip-off of The West Wing (Bartlett For America.)
If he was going for a Kennedy-esque moment, he picked the wrong one:
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#341714 - 07/07/08 02:22 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/30/08
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yet they've elected a Dem for governor for the last 2 terms.
It was a shock that they nominated Henry but I was glad...especially after dealing with Keating, who was our Giuliani 
Edited by fiendgrl13 (07/07/08 02:24 PM)
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#341715 - 07/07/08 02:36 PM
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I lived under that asshole's regime for eight years. There is no "other" Giuliani.
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#341716 - 07/07/08 06:54 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/10/08
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BTW: Did anyone happen to catch Jughead's short lived "seal" a couple of weeks back? Here it is again:
I love how quickly this one got yanked. First of all, he looks like a little kid playing at his old man's desk. Beyond that, though, how many people are going to see the motto and assume it means "Playin' Possum?"
There's also the fact that it's a direct rip-off of The West Wing (Bartlett For America.)
If he was going for a Kennedy-esque moment, he picked the wrong one:
if you are part of the demographic that could possibly construe that or associate it with Playin' Possum, you're already a McCain voter already and just looking for shit to nitpick.
As far as CNN coverage, they've been lowballing Obama since last year and backing Hilary relentlessly, onceshe "suspended" her bid for nomination, the venom continues to pulsate through CNN.
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#341717 - 07/07/08 07:00 PM
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See, that's the kind of dumbass either/or logic that's ruining America. I don't like either of them. The fact remains, though, that Obama is a child playing a grown up's game.
In a Whiskey world, Obama has all the gravitas of a Shirley Temple.
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#341719 - 07/07/08 07:40 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/10/08
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See, that's the kind of dumbass either/or logic that's ruining America. I don't like either of them. The fact remains, though, that Obama is a child playing a grown up's game.
In a Whiskey world, Obama has all the gravitas of a Shirley Temple.
then vote for who you like. what's the problem?
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#341720 - 07/07/08 07:47 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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The problem is that there is no one worth a damn running. Thank you two party system.
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#341721 - 07/07/08 07:58 PM
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I usually vote (D) as the lesser of two evils. This time around, I really can't decide who's worse. The third-party guys are just as douchey as the other two.
I'm still strongly considering writing in a Steward/Little protest ballot.
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#341722 - 07/07/08 08:02 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/10/08
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The problem is that there is no one worth a damn running. Thank you two party system.
so what would be your ideal candidate?
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#341723 - 07/07/08 08:06 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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Social moderate, fiscal conservative. I think I'm just going vote libertarian.
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#341724 - 07/07/08 08:18 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/10/08
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there hasn't been a fiscal conservative in 50 years and probably will never be again.
as far as social moderate i don't think you even believe that yourself if your alternate choice is a libertarian who are anything but socially moderate.
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#341725 - 07/07/08 08:25 PM
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Well, this year's "libertarian" candidate is a fucking Nazi who's flip-flopped just as badly as the other two. And don't get me started on the commie the Greens are running.
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#341726 - 07/07/08 08:27 PM
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Registered Sex Offender
Registered: 07/09/06
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Mister, we could use a man like Barry Goldwater again. Even as an ex-Repub and now Libertarian, I wouldn't mind a guy with the political and economic views of JFK, only with more executive experience and foreign policy competence. Candidates who don't understand or minimize the threat posed by radical Islam have no business in the Oval Office.
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#341727 - 07/07/08 08:29 PM
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Registered Sex Offender
Registered: 07/09/06
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Loc: St. Louis
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Well, this year's "libertarian" candidate is a fucking Nazi who's flip-flopped just as badly as the other two. And don't get me started on the commie the Greens are running.
I always thought Barr got a bad rap. He wasn't media-friendly, so the media tried successfully to portray him as a right-wing nutjob. I will be voting for Barr this year.
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#341728 - 07/07/08 08:32 PM
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Candidates who don't understand or minimize the threat posed by radical Islam have no business in the Oval Office.
I guarantee you that, if he wins, all the kool-aid chuggers who think Obama's the second coming of Bobby Kennedy are going to be kicking themselves six months later when they realize he's the second coming of Jimmy Carter.
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#341729 - 07/07/08 08:44 PM
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I always thought Barr got a bad rap. He wasn't media-friendly, so the media tried successfully to portray him as a right-wing nutjob. I will be voting for Barr this year.
As a leader of the impeachment effort I could never vote for the guy even if he hadn't flip-flopped on most of his life-long positions just to get the Lib nod.
But beyond that, his fellow Republicans repudiated him 2:1 in a primary. For them to do that, after leading the charge against Bubba with a cum-stained dress as a banner, you know something's gotta be wrong with the guy.
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#341730 - 07/07/08 09:51 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/10/08
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Mister, we could use a man like Barry Goldwater again. Even as an ex-Repub and now Libertarian, I wouldn't mind a guy with the political and economic views of JFK, only with more executive experience and foreign policy competence. Candidates who don't understand or minimize the threat posed by radical Islam have no business in the Oval Office.
ah yes, "radical islam" - the boogeyman of the 21st century.
keep drinking the koolaid.
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#341732 - 07/07/08 10:07 PM
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ah yes, "radical islam" - the boogeyman of the 21st century.
keep drinking the koolaid.
Come on up here to NYC sometime. There's a big hole in the ground I'd like to toss your myopic ass into.
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#341733 - 07/07/08 10:19 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/10/08
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hmm.. Quote:
my·o·pi·a (m-p-)
n.
1. A visual defect in which distant objects appear blurred because their images are focused in front of the retina rather than on it; nearsightedness. Also called short sight.
2. Lack of discernment or long-range perspective in thinking or planning:
As in... "It is myopic to develop an entire foreign policy around a single major terrorist incident and demand it as a sole qualifiable quality in a president of the United States"
Funny how terrorism wasn't a big priority after 1993 when World Trade Center was attacked, or in 1998 when the 2 US embassies were blown up in Africa. But as soon as the specter of communism was finally dead and buried, a new boogeyman arose!
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#341734 - 07/07/08 10:25 PM
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The terrorists and I go way back. One of my best friends was blown up over Lockerbee well before the first WTC bombing.
So tell me: Which Douchey Euro country do you hail from?
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#341735 - 07/07/08 11:02 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/10/08
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Ah, so is it just terrorists, or radical islamic terrorists?
Because in the Lockerbie case, 1 of the 2 men was acquitted, 2nd one has been convicted but granted another appeal in 2007 due to a possible miscarriage of justice.
It's also worth pointing out that the convicted man Megrahi has no particular ties to radical Islam and was a former intelligence officer for Libya which in the 80s pretty much meant that the bombing was probably carried out for political reasons rather than religious reasons - that is if he is in fact the guilty party which the Scottish court will decide during his 2nd appeal.
Sorry about your friend.
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#341736 - 07/07/08 11:06 PM
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Anonymous
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Sorry you've got your head up your ass. But hey, that's politics. Say hi to your pal Osama for me, will ya? 
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#341737 - 07/07/08 11:14 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/10/08
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A brilliant retort from a future voter.
And the same people complain about not having anyone to vote for because they can't find a simpleton candidate with a single issue platform.
Oh wait, try writing in Giuliani - he ran on a 9/11 platform.
p.s. 9/11.
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#341738 - 07/08/08 04:33 AM
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Another Douchebag Euro who presumes to lecture us "simpleton" Americans about issues he not only fails to comprehend but grossly underestimates.
But I'd expect nothing less from a guy who named himself after the gayest, most pretentious channel on cable.
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#341739 - 07/08/08 05:39 AM
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Porn Jesus
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there hasn't been a fiscal conservative in 50 years and probably will never be again.
as far as social moderate i don't think you even believe that yourself if your alternate choice is a libertarian who are anything but socially moderate.
Meet US Senator Tom Coburn, a fiscal conservative. he hates pork so much you would think he's muslim. You sure don't find fiscal conservatives on the other side of the aisle.
I believe in some of their social policies but what it comes to is my list against the libertarians, is far shorter than my list against the other two parties and they're fiscally conservative. I happen to believe that is much more important.
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#341741 - 07/08/08 01:03 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Ply them with cartoons, pork rings and small fluffy dogs and apparently that religion will collapse. Like other things political- neither side will do what is necessary to put an end to all this. I have no children and could care less anymore so Obama will probably do an equal job to the republican candidate. Besides I am aching to see what shows like the Daily Show will do for material after the election. Carry over Bush jokes will only cover a few months then will grow stale.
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#341742 - 07/08/08 01:06 PM
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Are we going to jump back on this tired horse again, your Lordship? If you insist on doing so, try and remember that PIRA actually hit legitimate targets at one point or tried to, like at Brighton.
How's those sweatshops of yours, anyway?
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#341744 - 07/08/08 01:16 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Don't worry Cleetus at this rate Obummer might win election but with only a 9% approval rating I think Congress might swing back the other way.
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#341745 - 07/08/08 01:26 PM
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Legitimate targets like two of my local pubs?
Legitimate targets like Maggie Thatcher and your fellow sweatshop owning Tories. When the wrong targets started getting hit, I stopped giving them money. More than a decade before Good Friday, actually.
Good Friday itself was a decade ago. Ulster evolves. The muslims are still plotting. Apples and oranges, my Orange friend.
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#341747 - 07/08/08 02:36 PM
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So they came in the wake of Bloody Sunday, then? Just what part of "I stopped giving them money" are you having trouble comprehending, Your Grace? And just how much ammunition do you honestly think the pocket change I gave them before I was seventeen years old actually bought? I came to see that the cycle of violence was causing more problems than it solved and the British weren't going to be chased out thereby. The muslims haven't seen that light yet. Besides, I don't recall Adams or McGuinness issuing a Fatwa against Sinead O'Connor for offending the Pope. But just draw one little cartoon...
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#341748 - 07/08/08 02:52 PM
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#341750 - 07/08/08 04:17 PM
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What is it that leads you to make so many baseless assumptions about me?
Baseless? How about your support for a pistol whipping thug,? Or the way you metaphorically turned three shades of purple when a whore dared to vent on her blog? Or your air of smug superiority and utter lack of humor every time you post. You want to talk about horseshit emanating from a keyboard let's start with that.
Or how about your utter intractability and determination to keep fighting a war that even its principals have abandoned? Do you suppose that Paisley's hands are any less bloody than McGuinness'? Yet, until the former's recent retirement, they both eventually sat down and worked together in Stormont. The war is over, Ivor. The weapons are decommissioned. Yet here you are, still fighting it on a fucking porn board. In that regard, you're just as thin skinned and grudge carrying as the muslims.
Ulster has evolved. You and the muslims haven't.
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#341751 - 07/08/08 08:26 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/10/08
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Another Douchebag Euro who presumes to lecture us "simpleton" Americans about issues he not only fails to comprehend but grossly underestimates.
But I'd expect nothing less from a guy who named himself after the gayest, most pretentious channel on cable.
Oh those silly Europeans underestimating that terrible Muslim threat.
1. Europe has been fending off Muslims all the way since the 8th century at the Battle of Tours and at the Siege if Vienna in the 16th and 17th century, Battle of Kosovo in the 14th century and dozens of other smaller wars in skirmishes from the expansion of Ottomans into Europe in the Renaissance and post-Renaissance era and before that.
Had it been overrun at any of those times, those proud Eurotrash ancestors of yours who eventually became such patriotic Americans would be dropping to their knees 5 times a day.
2. Europe has a minority population of Muslims in Western Europe that eclipses anything America could ever imagine. The largest single group of non-German descent in Germany is Muslim Turks. The population of France is close to being 20% Muslim and middle-eastern.
So if anyone understands the implications of radical Islam, it is those "Douchebag Euros who fail to understand those issues".
You had 1 attack that you're getting all bent out of shape, Europe has been fighting terrorism for centuries, and modern terrorism since the 1950s.
So I wouldn't be so quick to presume to lecture those "douchebag euros" from your insulated American reality.
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#341752 - 07/08/08 08:27 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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there hasn't been a fiscal conservative in 50 years and probably will never be again.
as far as social moderate i don't think you even believe that yourself if your alternate choice is a libertarian who are anything but socially moderate.
Meet US Senator Tom Coburn, a fiscal conservative. he hates pork so much you would think he's muslim. You sure don't find fiscal conservatives on the other side of the aisle.
I believe in some of their social policies but what it comes to is my list against the libertarians, is far shorter than my list against the other two parties and they're fiscally conservative. I happen to believe that is much more important.
And how electable is Coburn?
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#341753 - 07/08/08 08:32 PM
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Anonymous
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Hey, John Thomas, how's it going?
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