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#262254 - 07/25/07 02:52 PM WEHT Sierra Sinn?
Soopergrizz Offline
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Registered: 02/23/05
Posts: 3724
Loc: Paddling my canoe in the wild
Here's her myspace Blg from earlier today. Enjoy.

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Wednesday, July 25, 2007

gosh 8 am is early
Current mood: chipper

sooooo...
i have been in a very bad mood the last few days....and if you know me, i mean REALLY know me, you know why...if you dont know why, dont ask. haha...just know that my dreary grey days are slipping away...and my sun is starting to shine....i really have a few, and i mean VERY FEW, good people in my life, but it's all about quality and not quantity any more....i have been weeeding the retards, jerks, assholes, losers, users, and bitch ass's out of my life...with pleasure!!!!

i love myself!!!
i love my family!!!
i love my man!
AND i love my true friends....and i am soooo happy to have em!

my chinchilla died....that is one thing that has really been attacking my demeanor....i loved baby ganja, he was a good pet, and some stupid bitch named kayla killed him!!!
i hate her!! if u c her, call her a murder and pray for her soul. lol i am half kidding about the calling her a murder thing, although i already did on several occasions, hahaha very loudly, cause thats what she is, a murderer.

on a side note, i burried my chinchilla, opposed to turning him into a mitten, hahahaha, cause people thought it would be weird, although i thought it would be a great way to commemorate his death, and keep my purty lil hands warm. lol but i was informed that, turning a pet, even if it is the most saught after fur in the world, into mittens, is apparently morbid or something... (how about slippers? lol, jk, kinda!)

sooooo, any way....
UPDATE!

i am sooooooo soooooo sooooo soooo soooooooo happy to have quit porn....i hate porn!!! fuck dude! i hate it....i have for a long time and i am so happy now that i am picking up the pieces of my formerly jaded existence...i sincerely appolojize to anyone that i have wronged, and one day i hope i can make it up to you!

i am lookin for a j.o.b.
i cant even believe it...didnt expect to have a 9-5 anytime soon, but times are a changin' my friends, and so am i!!!

i AM continuing to work on my art projects and the shirts i am selling..





.and all you stupid haters with nothing better to do than talk shit about a lil girl trying to strtaighten up her life, SHAME ON YOU!!!! i am not even gonna curse you out or try to justify myself to u or anyone else...cause in the grand scheme of things, i am happy, and you apparently aren't.

Life is far too short my friends, to waste it on hate!! and you know what else...I FORGIVE YOU!!!
this is a lesson i am struggling to learn, as i do have a lot of pain and anger in my heart, that i am beggining to let go, and see that god does have a plan for me!! and that i am going to succeed, no not suck seed! lol i am going to rise up and conquer the world, or at least my world, lol.

i am still a ninja, heck i am still a sexual ninja, BUT ONLY FOR MY MAN!!
cause, truthfully babies, thats how it IS supposed to be....

well my lil fingers are tired and i could sure use a cup of coffee and some strawberries and cream oatmeal....

oh yeah and guess what....I DONT SMOKE WEED ANYMORE!!
i am not saying i will never smoke it again, not at all...hahaha but i am certainly not smoking every day all day, and u know what is funny...my life is waaaaay more productive!!

so peace love and jungle music!!!

love
ME







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#262255 - 07/25/07 03:05 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
Dean Wormer Offline
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Registered: 08/05/05
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Fuck, now I have to go watch her "suck seed" in "Facial Frenzy 2" again.
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#262256 - 07/25/07 03:10 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Registered: 07/30/06
Posts: 1712
Loc: at the end of the longest line
If she's out of porn and she's happy and trying to get her life on a somewhat normal track, I say good for her.

I have the feeling though, that Shelley Lubben is trying to make Sierra her puppet, though. While listening to the latest podcast on http://xxxchurch.com , I noticed that when the host would ask Sierra questions and while she was giving an answer Ms. Lubben butted in a few times and would say something like, "Tell them about..."

If Sierra's happy to be out of porn, that's cool. Just kinda wished she would have done it on her own instead of hooking up with her new puppeteer Shelley Lubben.
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#262257 - 07/25/07 03:15 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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"i would totally suck off jesus!
i would gargle his holy cum!" Sierra Sinn



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#262258 - 07/25/07 03:16 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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I can't say that she'll ever do Porn again, but I guarantee you she'll be rid of Shelley "Gumbs" Lubben inside three months.

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#262259 - 07/25/07 03:26 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Registered: 06/05/05
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sierra sucks

nobody pistol whip her to be a junkie

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#262260 - 07/25/07 05:13 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
XPT RIP Offline
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Registered: 03/05/07
Posts: 529
anyone else notice she quit right after she shit her herself on set??

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#262261 - 07/25/07 05:39 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
weeeee Offline
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Registered: 01/09/06
Posts: 1248
Good luck Miss Sinn. I'll never forget that year you smoked Cass and I out in Vegas. We were very close to killing eachother from the withdrawls.

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#262262 - 07/25/07 08:18 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Registered: 07/14/06
Posts: 775
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Quote:

Good luck Miss Sinn. I'll never forget that year you smoked Cass and I out in Vegas. We were very close to killing eachother from the withdrawls.





Ooh Ooh Tell us more!
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#262263 - 07/26/07 03:01 AM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 2710
Quote:


my chinchilla died....that is one thing that has really been attacking my demeanor....i loved baby ganja, he was a good pet, and some stupid bitch named kayla killed him!!!




What was it Jeff said about porn chicks and dead pets?

'Ganja'...Jesus

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#262264 - 07/26/07 03:38 AM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
Monstar Offline
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Registered: 03/28/04
Posts: 4450
Loc: The Planet Houston
Just watched this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpQ91r4_BHU

and sierra is really looking for something, but she isn't going to find it with the shelley chick.

this goes back to the crack I made about people who seem more interested in promoting themselves over the people they actually work for, and the same can be said here.

this lubbens broad has an agenda. her agenda is attention, maybe not fame & fortune but definitely attention. she wants to be known and wants the world to know how great she is for "saving people"

well I say this, if she was really legit, there are ways to go about, with out making sure you get face time or pitching your series to MTV.

yeah that's right shelley..cry some more but only if the camera is on you.


I wish sierra luck, but get away from this broad.

EDIT to add: I also notice the tags for this video "Tags: porn stars sex shelley lubben sierra sinn actress "

gotta make sure all they key words are there >sarcasm
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#262265 - 07/26/07 07:06 AM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
Browser Offline
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Registered: 01/19/07
Posts: 204
She says she is still a sexual ninja but only for her man.

I thought most religions say it's a sin to have sex outside of marriage. She would be better of joining that other fake church..Scientology.

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#262266 - 07/26/07 07:27 AM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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You gotta see Shelley on the 700 Club.

"God miraculously cured her incurable sexually transmitted disease."

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#262267 - 07/26/07 08:48 AM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
Conky Offline
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Registered: 11/04/06
Posts: 4203
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I hope Sierra finds happiness and gets over whatever's fucking her up. I really do. But since she's no longer taking it in the ass on film, I have nothing further to add about her.

Quote:

"God miraculously cured her incurable sexually transmitted disease."




vodguy, who do you think created anti-biotics? And don't give me that 'science' crap!
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#262268 - 07/26/07 09:18 AM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Registered: 01/18/06
Posts: 505
Write this down, she'll be back...


when the rent is due.
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#262269 - 07/26/07 10:58 AM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Quote:

You gotta see Shelley on the 700 Club.

"God miraculously cured her incurable sexually transmitted disease."






Ahhh yes, the 700 Club. Founder by Pat Robertson and first hosted by Jim and Tammy Fay Bakkker; three Paragons of Wholesome Christian Values if ever there was one. Appearing there really lends her credibility.

BTW: Even the name "700 Club" drips of diorty money. In 1962, nearly broke, Robertson decided to have a telethon to keep his tiny Virgina TV station afloat. The Idea was to get 700 members to give $10 a month, which would just barely cover the overhead. $10 a month was a lot of money for poor dumb Jesus Freaks in Hampton Roads in 1962.

When the Bakkkers left for the big payday at Trinity Broadcasting and PTL, Robertson, enraged, rechristened their talk show Come On Over as "The 700 Club just to spite them. True Story.

They should all burn in the hell of their imagination.

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#262270 - 07/26/07 11:04 AM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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#262271 - 07/26/07 12:11 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Registered: 05/01/06
Posts: 502
Judging by the number of f-bombs, shits, etc.....Sierra's got a long ways to go before most Christians would even listen to her story.
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#262272 - 07/26/07 12:27 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Registered: 04/12/07
Posts: 367
Loc: WI
Quote:

You gotta see Shelley on the 700 Club.

"God miraculously cured her incurable sexually transmitted disease."







you know I am a believer that all blessings come from God but that he cured her STD....
it just sends images of this whore laying on a bed with legs apart and people praying over this bumpy, red pussy that is oozing puss....
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#262273 - 07/26/07 04:45 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 6557
Loc: 2004 - the glory days
it's threads like this about porners retiring, redemption, second chances, God, drug use/sobriety that I really miss CAOH's perspective





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#262274 - 07/26/07 05:43 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Registered: 08/26/03
Posts: 8160
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Quote:

this lubbens broad has an agenda. her agenda is attention, maybe not fame & fortune but definitely attention. she wants to be known and wants the world to know how great she is for "saving people"




Plus one. She was one kind of whore back in the day, now she's whore of the attention variety.
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#262275 - 07/26/07 06:00 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Registered: 03/28/04
Posts: 4450
Loc: The Planet Houston
Now she's after Sunrise Addams. Damn a porn chick cant have an off day for a second before this fucking vulture comes swooping in.

Quote:




Hi Sunrise. I've been EXACTLY where you are at. I am former porn actress and I'd like to invite you to watch my video on the front of my myspace where I share my eight year experience in the sex and porn industry. You will be amazed how much you will relate to me.
Write me after you watch it and let's talk.
I'd love the opportunity to love on ya! You are made for GREAT things precious woman!!
Shelley

Posted by Ex Porn Star Shelley Lubben
[Reply to this]




Women of porn, watch your ass. god forbid you have an off day because good 'ol self promotin' shelly will be right up there, ready to make a youtube video and use you as a fucking prop.

werd.
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#262276 - 07/26/07 06:57 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Registered: 07/20/03
Posts: 5256
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Quote:

Now she's after Sunrise Addams. Damn a porn chick cant have an off day for a second before this fucking vulture comes swooping in.

Quote:




Hi Sunrise. I've been EXACTLY where you are at. I am former porn actress and I'd like to invite you to watch my video on the front of my myspace where I share my eight year experience in the sex and porn industry. You will be amazed how much you will relate to me.
Write me after you watch it and let's talk.
I'd love the opportunity to love on ya! You are made for GREAT things precious woman!!
Shelley

Posted by Ex Porn Star Shelley Lubben
[Reply to this]




Women of porn, watch your ass. god forbid you have an off day because good 'ol self promotin' shelly will be right up there, ready to make a youtube video and use you as a fucking prop.

werd.



Sunrise is too smart for that vulture. If anything, lets hope Lubben's 15 minutes are up quickly.
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#262277 - 07/27/07 01:01 AM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Registered: 08/05/05
Posts: 2116
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Quote:

Now she's after Sunrise Addams. Damn a porn chick cant have an off day for a second before this fucking vulture comes swooping in.

Quote:




Hi Sunrise. I've been EXACTLY where you are at. I am former porn actress and I'd like to invite you to watch my video on the front of my myspace where I share my eight year experience in the sex and porn industry. You will be amazed how much you will relate to me.
Write me after you watch it and let's talk.
I'd love the opportunity to love on ya! You are made for GREAT things precious woman!!
Shelley

Posted by Ex Porn Star Shelley Lubben
[Reply to this]




Women of porn, watch your ass. god forbid you have an off day because good 'ol self promotin' shelly will be right up there, ready to make a youtube video and use you as a fucking prop.

werd.




When was Shelley ever a fuckin' contract star? What a lying sack of shit.
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#262278 - 07/27/07 01:26 AM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Registered: 07/06/05
Posts: 591
Loc: South of Heaven
porn is a lie! say it!



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#262279 - 07/27/07 02:24 AM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Registered: 07/17/07
Posts: 297
Quote:

Quote:

Now she's after Sunrise Addams. Damn a porn chick cant have an off day for a second before this fucking vulture comes swooping in.

Quote:




Hi Sunrise. I've been EXACTLY where you are at. I am former porn actress and I'd like to invite you to watch my video on the front of my myspace where I share my eight year experience in the sex and porn industry. You will be amazed how much you will relate to me.
Write me after you watch it and let's talk.
I'd love the opportunity to love on ya! You are made for GREAT things precious woman!!
Shelley

Posted by Ex Porn Star Shelley Lubben
[Reply to this]




Women of porn, watch your ass. god forbid you have an off day because good 'ol self promotin' shelly will be right up there, ready to make a youtube video and use you as a fucking prop.

werd.



Sunrise is too smart for that vulture. If anything, lets hope Lubben's 15 minutes are up quickly.




Since she wasn't smart enough not to suck cock for a living, it's hard to say, right?

Isn't Shelley--self-promoting cunt that she is--a more benign puppeteer than the average suitcase pimp, or pornographer for that matter, with his lure of cold cash in exchange for a hot ass reaming the bitch will never forget?

Having Shelley as your pimp at least means your crotch isn't chronically sore (or infected, right Mia?); that's got to be nice for the bitches.
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#262280 - 07/27/07 06:02 AM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Quote:

Isn't Shelley--self-promoting cunt that she is--a more benign puppeteer than the average suitcase pimp, or pornographer for that matter, with his lure of cold cash in exchange for a hot ass reaming the bitch will never forget?

Having Shelley as your pimp at least means your crotch isn't chronically sore (or infected, right Mia?); that's got to be nice for the bitches.




Gumbs Lubben is herself a puppet of the larger Christian movement. She's no Master of Puppets, merely an enforcer for forces bigger than her.

Which is worse: Being "enslaved" bodily, either through cash or tweek, or having your mind, heart and soul owned, enslaved and oblitterated by Jesus Freaks. Despite an occasional ooze, Mia's got it better than the Sierras of the industry.

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#262281 - 07/27/07 09:26 AM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Registered: 04/14/03
Posts: 7408
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Quote:

Now she's after Sunrise Addams. Damn a porn chick cant have an off day for a second before this fucking vulture comes swooping in.

Quote:




Hi Sunrise. I've been EXACTLY where you are at. I am former porn actress and I'd like to invite you to watch my video on the front of my myspace where I share my eight year experience in the sex and porn industry. You will be amazed how much you will relate to me.
Write me after you watch it and let's talk.
I'd love the opportunity to love on ya! You are made for GREAT things precious woman!!
Shelley

Posted by Ex Porn Star Shelley Lubben
[Reply to this]




Women of porn, watch your ass. god forbid you have an off day because good 'ol self promotin' shelly will be right up there, ready to make a youtube video and use you as a fucking prop.

werd.




I think now would be a good time for her to contact Wankus. Can someone please send her a message letting her know hes ready to be saved.
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#262282 - 07/27/07 12:25 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Registered: 06/05/05
Posts: 4468
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Quote:

porn is a lie! say it!






she have pieces of shit in her ass

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#262283 - 07/27/07 05:59 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
Postmortem Offline
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Registered: 07/17/07
Posts: 297
Quote:

Quote:

Isn't Shelley--self-promoting cunt that she is--a more benign puppeteer than the average suitcase pimp, or pornographer for that matter, with his lure of cold cash in exchange for a hot ass reaming the bitch will never forget?

Having Shelley as your pimp at least means your crotch isn't chronically sore (or infected, right Mia?); that's got to be nice for the bitches.




Gumbs Lubben is herself a puppet of the larger Christian movement. She's no Master of Puppets, merely an enforcer for forces bigger than her.

Which is worse: Being "enslaved" bodily, either through cash or tweek, or having your mind, heart and soul owned, enslaved and oblitterated by Jesus Freaks. Despite an occasional ooze, Mia's got it better than the Sierras of the industry.




Interesting stuff. First, I'd of course accept that Shelley herself is pretty lost in the Movement; she's hardly the Emperor. Still, she is the proximal string puller vis a vis Sierra. That's not to say her own strings aren't being pulled.

But that's probably not so important. I guess the comparison ought to be drawn explicitly at this point: Shelley and the "Sex Industry Survivor" movement are trying to do what Bill W. and AA did for alcoholics. Similar techniques are used (the AA "Higher Power"), and similar complaints are routinely leveled at AA: i.e., it's cultish, it's exclusionary of other treatment methods, it's all about God saving your soul (AA did start as an explicitly Christian movement, that was then modified for a secular culture.

A lot of AA members, especially newer ones, sound brainwashed. Actually, no, they are brainwashed. In time (in my experience, anyway), I've found most of the senior members (5 years plus) still believe in AA community, but take some of the writings and teaching with a grain of salt. But without original brainwashing, it's hard to get an addict to that point, where they can critically survey the program. You kind of have to get them mindlessly addicted to the program at first (surrender to the Higher Power, don't ask questions, just have faith, etc).

Long story short: Shelley Lubben and the movement she's a part of are no more pernicious than AA. Now, some people actually think AA is a menace. But most people (including the psychiatric community) consider it one of the best means of helping addicts stay clean and put their lives back together. Sure, there is brainwashing involved, but sometimes thats required to reach people deep in the throes of a problem.

And by and large, being a porno whore means something's gotten kind of fucked up somewhere, though I'm sure many on this board will defend it tooth and nail. The well-known fact that no one wants their own child or close relatives to do porn or prostitution, or other sex industry work is the best evidence, tried and true as it is, that such arguments are self-serving and disingenuous. The idea that most--not all, but most--of these girls have robust emotional lives and are not in one way or another seriously dysfunctional is ludicrous really. For most whores, being a whore is every bit as "unmanageable" as being an alcoholic: people who feel good about themselves and their prospects in life just don't typically suck cock for cash.

So, just as with alcohol and drug addiction, and AA and the other 12 step programs, if it takes some initial brainwashing to stabilize the troubled person, so be it. What's the alternative, really?

Anyway, that's one line of thought to consider I guess.
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#262284 - 07/27/07 06:37 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Damn, Q.B. You were doing really well until you hit this paragraph:

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And by and large, being a porno whore means something's gotten kind of fucked up somewhere, though I'm sure many on this board will defend it tooth and nail. The well-known fact that no one wants their own child or close relatives to do porn or prostitution, or other sex industry work is the best evidence, tried and true as it is, that such arguments are self-serving and disingenuous. The idea that most--not all, but most--of these girls have robust emotional lives and are not in one way or another seriously dysfunctional is ludicrous really. For most whores, being a whore is every bit as "unmanageable" as being an alcoholic: people who feel good about themselves and their prospects in life just don't typically suck cock for cash.




You see, nobody on this board denies that the whores are fucked up. On the contrary, we celebrate it. The more fucked up she is, the more strokeworthy. Daddy issues? :banana cream: Throw in some Drug issues? :banana cream: :banana cream: Pistol whipping suitcase pimp? :banana cream: :banana cream: :banana cream: And so on...

As for the A.A./Lubben issue, two things:

First, while A.A. has some "cultish" aspects, I've never seen recovering drunks proselytizing the way the Jesus freaks do; and

Second, the goal of A.A. is to help Drunks who seek help to help themselves. The goal of the Jesus Freaks is to amass members and money by preying on the troubled and vulnerable. First they convert them. The converts achieve a degree of stability (job, apartment, etc.) and begin to kick their hard earned money (tithes) upstairs o the fat men with backwards collars. Finally, the newly minted stable Christians are sent out to make converts of their own, using themselves as "success stories."

Finally, the folks in A.A., while seeking assistance fro a higher power, recognize that, fundamentally, it's up to them whether they succeed or fail. The Jesus Freaks abdicate all personal responsibility by "surrendering to the will of God." Big Difference.

And when are you going to do something about that name, anyway? You've either got a pair of cast iron balls, zero common sense or a sick sense of humor.

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#262285 - 07/27/07 06:45 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Registered: 07/02/07
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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Isn't Shelley--self-promoting cunt that she is--a more benign puppeteer than the average suitcase pimp, or pornographer for that matter, with his lure of cold cash in exchange for a hot ass reaming the bitch will never forget?

Having Shelley as your pimp at least means your crotch isn't chronically sore (or infected, right Mia?); that's got to be nice for the bitches.




Gumbs Lubben is herself a puppet of the larger Christian movement. She's no Master of Puppets, merely an enforcer for forces bigger than her.

Which is worse: Being "enslaved" bodily, either through cash or tweek, or having your mind, heart and soul owned, enslaved and oblitterated by Jesus Freaks. Despite an occasional ooze, Mia's got it better than the Sierras of the industry.




Interesting stuff. First, I'd of course accept that Shelley herself is pretty lost in the Movement; she's hardly the Emperor. Still, she is the proximal string puller vis a vis Sierra. That's not to say her own strings aren't being pulled.

But that's probably not so important. I guess the comparison ought to be drawn explicitly at this point: Shelley and the "Sex Industry Survivor" movement are trying to do what Bill W. and AA did for alcoholics. Similar techniques are used (the AA "Higher Power"), and similar complaints are routinely leveled at AA: i.e., it's cultish, it's exclusionary of other treatment methods, it's all about God saving your soul (AA did start as an explicitly Christian movement, that was then modified for a secular culture.

A lot of AA members, especially newer ones, sound brainwashed. Actually, no, they are brainwashed. In time (in my experience, anyway), I've found most of the senior members (5 years plus) still believe in AA community, but take some of the writings and teaching with a grain of salt. But without original brainwashing, it's hard to get an addict to that point, where they can critically survey the program. You kind of have to get them mindlessly addicted to the program at first (surrender to the Higher Power, don't ask questions, just have faith, etc).

Long story short: Shelley Lubben and the movement she's a part of are no more pernicious than AA. Now, some people actually think AA is a menace. But most people (including the psychiatric community) consider it one of the best means of helping addicts stay clean and put their lives back together. Sure, there is brainwashing involved, but sometimes thats required to reach people deep in the throes of a problem.

And by and large, being a porno whore means something's gotten kind of fucked up somewhere, though I'm sure many on this board will defend it tooth and nail. The well-known fact that no one wants their own child or close relatives to do porn or prostitution, or other sex industry work is the best evidence, tried and true as it is, that such arguments are self-serving and disingenuous. The idea that most--not all, but most--of these girls have robust emotional lives and are not in one way or another seriously dysfunctional is ludicrous really. For most whores, being a whore is every bit as "unmanageable" as being an alcoholic: people who feel good about themselves and their prospects in life just don't typically suck cock for cash.

So, just as with alcohol and drug addiction, and AA and the other 12 step programs, if it takes some initial brainwashing to stabilize the troubled person, so be it. What's the alternative, really?

Anyway, that's one line of thought to consider I guess.






Being an athiest the only thing more fucked up than Porn is religion. I mean honestly Porn is a business about people who want to rent or buy media with images of people having sex so they can masturbate. Even with a minimalist point of view something comes of that even it is only an orgasm.

Religion on the other hand goes out of its way to pretend that their is some all-seeing entity out there watching us (even when we jerk off) and doesn't like some of the things we do. So the religion created guilt for simple things like sex so we would stop doing the things that certain people in those religions didn't want us doing. Shelly Leuben may have her heart in the right place but other than that she is as bad as any porn producer out there in terms of being part of an organization that uses people.

Now how fucked up is that

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#262286 - 07/27/07 09:10 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Damn, Q.B. You were doing really well until you hit this paragraph:

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And by and large, being a porno whore means something's gotten kind of fucked up somewhere, though I'm sure many on this board will defend it tooth and nail. The well-known fact that no one wants their own child or close relatives to do porn or prostitution, or other sex industry work is the best evidence, tried and true as it is, that such arguments are self-serving and disingenuous. The idea that most--not all, but most--of these girls have robust emotional lives and are not in one way or another seriously dysfunctional is ludicrous really. For most whores, being a whore is every bit as "unmanageable" as being an alcoholic: people who feel good about themselves and their prospects in life just don't typically suck cock for cash.




You see, nobody on this board denies that the whores are fucked up. On the contrary, we celebrate it. The more fucked up she is, the more strokeworthy. Daddy issues? :banana cream: Throw in some Drug issues? :banana cream: :banana cream: Pistol whipping suitcase pimp? :banana cream: :banana cream: :banana cream: And so on...

As for the A.A./Lubben issue, two things:

First, while A.A. has some "cultish" aspects, I've never seen recovering drunks proselytizing the way the Jesus freaks do; and

Second, the goal of A.A. is to help Drunks who seek help to help themselves. The goal of the Jesus Freaks is to amass members and money by preying on the troubled and vulnerable. First they convert them. The converts achieve a degree of stability (job, apartment, etc.) and begin to kick their hard earned money (tithes) upstairs o the fat men with backwards collars. Finally, the newly minted stable Christians are sent out to make converts of their own, using themselves as "success stories."

Finally, the folks in A.A., while seeking assistance fro a higher power, recognize that, fundamentally, it's up to them whether they succeed or fail. The Jesus Freaks abdicate all personal responsibility by "surrendering to the will of God." Big Difference.

And when are you going to do something about that name, anyway? You've either got a pair of cast iron balls, zero common sense or a sick sense of humor.




Your second point about A.A. is excellent; I hadn't considered that for some reason. Proselytizing is pretty repugnant stuff, and it does impugn the purity of the motive. I stand by thinking AA has helped a lot of people (including me), even though the stuff they have to tell you to get you to where you can think straight (and for yourself) is pretty heavily strewn with higher-power, surrender talk etc. I guess I'm just struck by the fact that this religious sounding talk does somehow help people, even if it's total bullshit. Psychiatrists--who still haven't come up with a more effective talk-therapy method--always puzzle over that success...

Anway, fuck Shelley, the parasite. That youtube clip with her and Sierra is just disgusting.

"Queerbot" is a fucked up name; it tends to bring on attacks I think (or maybe it's just my occasionally asinine comments).

I find that good ol Luke seems to like quoting me; is it the name, Luke?

Qbot.

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#262287 - 07/27/07 09:27 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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now we know why Sierra came down


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#262288 - 07/28/07 05:59 AM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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now we know why Sierra came down





OMG! It's cancer!
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#262289 - 07/28/07 09:30 AM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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If anyone has sick, perverted pornographic images of Sierra doing deeply unChristian things to cocks, cunts and assholes, please begin posting them in honor of Sierra.

I'd like to see more of her humiliating pictures in this thread.
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#262290 - 07/28/07 02:43 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Edited by jack_schitt (07/29/07 01:42 PM)
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#262291 - 07/28/07 04:47 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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If anyone has sick, perverted pornographic images of Sierra doing deeply unChristian things to cocks, cunts and assholes, please begin posting them in honor of Sierra.

I'd like to see more of her humiliating pictures in this thread.







Spider-Man trying to suffocate her with his web fluid.






I call this one "Daddy's Crying"



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#262292 - 07/29/07 12:21 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Thanks guys. It's nice to see just what Shelley's fighting against.

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#262293 - 07/29/07 11:48 PM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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#262294 - 08/07/07 11:20 AM Re: WEHT Sierra Sinn?
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Did this young woman's myspace page come down? Oh Sierra... Some leaves only have one side.

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