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#21478 - 04/20/04 08:12 AM
Talent has unrealistic expectations...
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From AVN.com: http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary_Navigation=Articles&Action=View_Article&Content_ID=81255Randall said the performers are frustrated that the industry does not have an emergency fund for such situations. "It was just a bunch of people venting their frustrations and being upset from feeling that they were disposable people, you know, the talent, and that they weren't loved because there's no funds," Randall said. "There's no safety net. Like Tony Tedeschi was saying he can't pay his rent." ----- No offense, but if you can't save money working your job, be it a fucking hired hole or a truck driver, maybe it's time to find a new profession. Why do people expect fucking for a living to be a windfall? You have to invest in yourself to move forward in life, no matter what you do. If you're a degenerate sex addict (like some of these people are) you're going to be ill-prepared for "rainy days" no matter what you're doing for a living. It's not your employers responsibility (or in this case the person hiring you to be an independent contractor) to bail you out cuz you've fucked up your life. Malice 
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#21479 - 04/20/04 09:03 AM
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Bukkake Boy
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i hate to say this, but i will have to agree.i never seen so many BROKE "A" list porn stars in my life. just goes to show how many porners be fronting.
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#21480 - 04/20/04 09:24 AM
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It's been what, a week? One week? What do these people normally do when they get some treatable STD? Doesn't the doctor tell them to take ANY time off at all? Or do they drive straight from the pharmacy to their next shoot?
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#21481 - 04/20/04 09:53 AM
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yeah, you definitely gotta put away cash... the only bad thing is those of us who did build a nice cushion... and now its being drained away. Kei lost 5k in shoots this month. she didnt work in the first half of the month cause the second half was booked with these big feature projects. im only making about 1-1.5k a month right now working regularly. we are trying to find some ways to make up for some of that big hole in the savings. (solos, soft, g/g, dancing etc.) fuckin HIV 
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#21482 - 04/20/04 09:57 AM
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I'm sure a lot of performers have worked regardless of what the doctor tells them.
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#21483 - 04/20/04 09:59 AM
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i have worked with some where they really NEED to see a doctor.
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#21484 - 04/20/04 11:23 AM
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Last night,I saw Evan Stone in a truly awful vampire movie,that being Fred Olen Ray's erotic-filled "Haunting Desires",where Evan was the lead vampire baddie,and he openly displayed his porn roots in his love scenes.
Otherwise,doing DTV/cable softcore genre films might be the temporary way to go for everybody in the industry(and desperately needs to pay their rent) for a while until the smoke fully clears on this HIV issue.
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#21485 - 04/20/04 05:55 PM
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Could they file for unemployment? Maybe so if CA starts regulating.
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#21487 - 04/20/04 06:55 PM
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I wonder if the performers did have some sort of fund set up, like a union fund in case of a strike, who would watch over the money. You know in the end there would be some sort of trouble over the money and where it went.
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#21488 - 04/20/04 08:13 PM
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I seriously don't think a union is going to be successful handling an industry that is so hard to keep track of.
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#21490 - 04/20/04 10:12 PM
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I think everyone likes the idea of a union when they need it, but when it comes time to pay union dues I would be shocked if everyone offered up a percent of each check.
I am also really shocked that everyone is crying broke already, a bad g and c would keep you home this long and I would be shocked to find a performer who has never suffered through that.
I feel bad for the lighting guys and the make up artists. and for crying out loud the drug dealers.
I worked for one week before this all happened and I can sit on my ass for the next 2 months.
it is tragic and rough but the lost income for me is the smallest of my worries.
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#21492 - 04/20/04 10:57 PM
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If they can't shoot, they can always hook.
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#21494 - 04/21/04 10:20 AM
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I am pretty sure that damsel in distress bondage wil not be affected. I just came home to pittsburgh. I am gonna chill out till its all settled. i was really lucky that I was not in more direct risk. I shot 7 scenes while I was there. (I think)
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#21495 - 04/21/04 10:26 AM
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I am pretty sure that damsel in distress bondage wil not be affected.
As far as I know, american bondage movies have no penetration, so I guess some niches are safe. What about g/g flicks?
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#21496 - 04/21/04 11:15 AM
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there is toy penetration and blood play.
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#21498 - 04/21/04 11:28 AM
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Whoremaster
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you just can't make this stuff up. I get asked all the time if there is anything I dont do... and damn I had to think about it, but I dont do blood play or purple boobies.
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#21499 - 04/21/04 02:24 PM
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there is toy penetration and blood play.
Oh yeah. Well, toys don´t carry the virus if they´re properly sanitized, but blood play is really dangerous. Yeah, man... play with blood and you´re DOOMED! DOOMED! Blood play is a no-no and should be banned or at least outlawed.
BTW, what the fuck is blood play? 
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#21500 - 04/21/04 05:33 PM
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Oh yeah. Well, toys don´t carry the virus if they´re properly sanitized, but blood play is really dangerous. Yeah, man... play with blood and you´re DOOMED! DOOMED! Blood play is a no-no and should be banned or at least outlawed.
A virus can survive bare on a toy for a brief amount of time. HIV breaks down fairly quickly in air (and really fast if attacked by UV or ozone). 30 minutes (from memory, maybe wrong) may be a safe wait after the toy is dried.
I admit this is a pretty unlikely, but I wouldn't pull a big dildo out of Lara's butt and ram it up someone else's without careful washing, drying, and letting it sit dry for a while.
(same thing as for flu virus)
I think some virii can survive longer: some of them surround the RNA with much stronger proteins. And of course some bacteria are very well protected and can survive dormant outside the body for years.
While I'm on an off-topic roll, some prions (mad-cow) have been shown to survive 1000c. No hospital can disinfect for all prions. Luckily no gonzo has found a circus act that might transmit mad-cow. So far. That we know of.
As for blood: it is the ideal medium for transfer. Almost all disease agents are optimized by evolution for blood.
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#21501 - 04/21/04 06:37 PM
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Porn Jesus
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I admit this is a pretty unlikely, but I wouldn't pull a big dildo out of Lara's butt and ram it up someone else's without careful washing, drying, and letting it sit dry for a while.
Word, dude. That´s not even a matter of preventing STDs, it´s a question of basic hygiene.
Back to the question... WHAT THE FUCK IS BLOOD PLAY?????
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#21502 - 04/21/04 07:18 PM
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A virus can survive bare on a toy for a brief amount of time. HIV breaks down fairly quickly in air (and really fast if attacked by UV or ozone). 30 minutes (from memory, maybe wrong) may be a safe wait after the toy is dried. Ding,Ding,Ding,Ding!...correct! Anyone in the porn industry who is performing and doesn't look up "ozone therapy" on Google is ONE DUMB ASSHOLE THAT DESERVES TO DIE! 
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#21503 - 04/21/04 09:46 PM
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Bukkake Boy
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Blood play ?!
That's quite a new word that I've heard,rearding S&M bondage films,today.
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#21505 - 04/21/04 10:15 PM
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Porn Jesus
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jrv's memory didn't fail him on that one, HIV can make it a few hours. if you don't kill them, they don't dry up, and they survive outside of shit like biting insects, a bunch of viruses can survive several weeks-months, some even on ambient surfaces like metal.
they don't need to eat, breathe, maintain traditional homeostasis-obviously they're related to keith richards.
anyhow, stuff that would be in your poop or clear/mucosal fluids like the rotoviruses are exactly what's getting on something like a dildo, so don't share them or stick it in your fucking mouth, aids scare or not. thankfully, all the scary filovirus-type stuff doesn't last very long outside a host, so claiming you've got marburg or ebola isn't a legit excuse for porn girls flaking in the future
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