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#8190 - 10/23/03 08:37 PM
Re: Ariana Jollee
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However, you still have the right to not buy that girl's stuff or anything she is involved in if you don't like her career decision.
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#8192 - 10/24/03 02:30 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 07/21/03
Posts: 274
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jenna jameson has always refused to have sex with black performers yet people are still kissing her ass  give ariana a break, she said she will do interracial one day.
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#8194 - 10/24/03 12:20 PM
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Registered Sex Offender
Registered: 03/12/03
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The only comment that I want to say about this is that there are a TON of porn girls that will not shoot interracial, it is their choice. It is not racist or discrimination. Hello! It is their body, their choice. Some girls just are not attracted to African American men. Some girls also think that it may hurt their career. This is debatable but it is the girl's choice. Would you berate a girl for only doing girl/girl?
Does that mean that she hates men? No, it means that she has made a career decision. Thats it.
Dude,
I don't normally chime in against your pro-whore statements, but you are really wrong on this. Okay, sure the girl has a right to do whatever she wants. Yeah, that's true - obviously if she arrives on a set and doesn't want to fuck the guy (whatever color they are) - hey, that's her right.
But for you to sit there and say that its not racist and it is discrimination. They don't wanna fuck the black guys. It because they are ignorant and bigots. Period.
Saying that they don't want to do it because it will hurt their career, well that is just as wrong because they are supporting the hatred of blacks by other people. And as for Ariana, not wanting to have a black person's cum shot on you, that is pretty racist.
But yes, they are free. But as producers we should, whenever possible, fight for what is right. And girls who don't do interracial are simply wrong. Period.
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#8195 - 10/24/03 03:56 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 04/20/03
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That is a good point. I guess every situation is different. Some of the girls are outright racist, some may think it will hurt thier career. But, yes I agree some are outright racists, in fact one day I was at Ember's house here in Vegas and met her viscious little fucking dog that chewed on my hand the whole time... her dog's name.... Arian. Quote:
Dude,
I don't normally chime in against your pro-whore statements, but you are really wrong on this. Okay, sure the girl has a right to do whatever she wants. Yeah, that's true - obviously if she arrives on a set and doesn't want to fuck the guy (whatever color they are) - hey, that's her right.
But for you to sit there and say that its not racist and it is discrimination. They don't wanna fuck the black guys. It because they are ignorant and bigots. Period.
Saying that they don't want to do it because it will hurt their career, well that is just as wrong because they are supporting the hatred of blacks by other people. And as for Ariana, not wanting to have a black person's cum shot on you, that is pretty racist.
But yes, they are free. But as producers we should, whenever possible, fight for what is right. And girls who don't do interracial are simply wrong. Period.
Malice
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#8196 - 10/24/03 10:01 PM
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aka Gen Padova
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Registered: 04/20/03
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You know for about the first 8 months of doing movies I didn't do interracial. Call me racist  My reason for not doing it, is because that's what everyone was asking of me. So I knew I had an advantage there. As soon as I was ready to make some breaking news to my own fan base and the gossip realm of the industry, that's when I made my move. As those several months passed by and hearing repetitive comments of how the size of my ass on such a tiny caucasian woman would drive a black man crazy... I was ready to break into a new excitement. Hell yes I had my fun and still am. And I'll tell all the girls who say it'll hurt her career that it's bullshit because I've receive so much more feedback from fans about how arrousing it is to see a high contrast of skin color and size between myself and a black man. Even woman... It's erotic. Although I'll admit that refusing to take a cum load from a black man in a bukkake is going a little too far. Maybe I'm just a little more immoral than girls who don't do interracial, LOL. Anyhow, I'd figure I'd bring this up since the topic is there and was just chatting with LIMITLESGRL earlier about it. All in all it seems as though Ariana is just pacing her porn career in a anticipating manner like I did thus perhaps going to far as rejecting a bukakke scene with african americans... I dont know. I'm just surprised that Ariana is being ridiculed more than any other girl that refuses to do interracial. Jenna Jameson is for one... not worthy of her 100,000$ per movie with her pretty sex scenes and no diversity... at least Ariana does hot scenes and enjoys her job. No doubt about that.
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#8198 - 10/25/03 02:42 AM
Re: Ariana Jollee
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 07/21/03
Posts: 274
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If you are going to have all kind of limits get the fuck out of porn.Why not give it your all and be the best whore you can be?Primadonnas,who need them!
i agree jeff. get the fuck out of porn if you're not willing to go all the way. Go work at fucking burger king or something unless your refuse to serve to black customers also.
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#8201 - 10/27/03 09:24 PM
Re: Ariana Jollee
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Stormy's Lawyer
Registered: 05/21/03
Posts: 28
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First off... thank you especially to Gen for defending me regarding this. You happen to be right on the money... I needed something to hold back, In the beginning I had no clue where my porn career would go... girls get shot out quickly and something needed to be saved.
I have my first interracial scene planned, I've had it planned for a while, and its going to be a very big deal. In all reality I do not want anything to ruin the marketability of it.
Those of you who have written the negative comments here and on rame and adt, really need a reality check. All of you assume shit, and its frustrating considering that the submissive little fucking slut that I am, who fucking smiles into the goddamn camera crying out how i am in fucking heaven with two goddamn dicks in my ass is not good enough for you... i dont want haters buying my porn, i could give two shits.
Excuse me while I go suck some big black dick... And when I get around to doing it on camera, you will be missing some serious shit... you know since I lost whoever as a fan and all.
ps... "nigga hatin slut" ... sounds like you're the hater, not me sweetheart
later
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#8202 - 10/27/03 09:42 PM
Re: Ariana Jollee
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Human Garbage
Registered: 04/20/03
Posts: 1630
Loc: SoCal
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First off... thank you especially to Gen for defending me regarding this. You happen to be right on the money... I needed something to hold back, In the beginning I had no clue where my porn career would go... girls get shot out quickly and something needed to be saved.
I have my first interracial scene planned, I've had it planned for a while, and its going to be a very big deal. In all reality I do not want anything to ruin the marketability of it.
Those of you who have written the negative comments here and on rame and adt, really need a reality check. All of you assume shit, and its frustrating considering that the submissive little fucking slut that I am, who fucking smiles into the goddamn camera crying out how i am in fucking heaven with two goddamn dicks in my ass is not good enough for you... i dont want haters buying my porn, i could give two shits.
Excuse me while I go suck some big black dick... And when I get around to doing it on camera, you will be missing some serious shit... you know since I lost whoever as a fan and all.
ps... "nigga hatin slut" ... sounds like you're the hater, not me sweetheart
later
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#8203 - 10/28/03 08:35 PM
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ADT regular
Registered: 10/28/03
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out with the old. in with the new. 
who gives a fuck if she does black guys? 
she has to. its the only way this washed up overshot whore gets work now. 
ariana, your not nothing special. 
just my opinion,
mullet 
Edited by mullet (10/28/03 08:56 PM)
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#8206 - 10/30/03 12:28 PM
Re: Ariana Jollee
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 04/14/03
Posts: 614
Loc: Boston, MA.
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I have my first interracial scene planned, I've had it planned for a while, and its going to be a very big deal. In all reality I do not want anything to ruin the marketability of it.
Those of you who have written the negative comments here and on rame and adt, really need a reality check. All of you assume shit, and its frustrating considering that the submissive little fucking slut that I am, who fucking smiles into the goddamn camera crying out how i am in fucking heaven with two goddamn dicks in my ass is not good enough for you... i dont want haters buying my porn, i could give two shits.
Excuse me while I go suck some big black dick... And when I get around to doing it on camera, you will be missing some serious shit... you know since I lost whoever as a fan and all.
later
Gosh Ariana you sure are hardcore .  I dont know how the porn industry survived before you came around and when your gone , what will we jerk off to ? 
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#8207 - 10/31/03 02:36 PM
Re: Ariana Jollee
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Stormy's Lawyer
Registered: 05/21/03
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bigpornfan.... and your point is what exactly ? again thank you to those who have the decency to look at this rationally... xxx Ariana **somewhere sucking big black cock**
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#8209 - 11/01/03 03:29 PM
Re: Ariana Jollee
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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Those of you who have written the negative comments here and on rame and adt, really need a reality check.
Am I the only one who thinks it’s ironic that Ariana is taking flack from all these little white boys whining that Ariana isn’t fulfilling their racist fantasies of Big Black Animals Ravaging Pure White Girls? I mean, who’s calling the kettle “black” here?
Ariana could just say “I’ll take a black guy up my butt if you do.” – after all, it’s as Politically Incorrect to discriminate against gays as blacks, so if the whiners aren’t willing to do a black guy why should Ariana?
There are plenty of girls, in and not in porn, who won’t do blacks or only if “the price is right.” Ariana says she will but hasn’t yet. That at least puts her ahead of a lot of other girls, and in my opinion ahead of the whiners too.
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#8212 - 11/16/03 10:46 AM
Re: Ariana Jollee
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Registered: 11/16/03
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What's good about the Internet is it gives a place for racist porn whores to be exposed. Now I know which porn whores to avoid when I'm shopping for porn. And just because she don't do black guys means we have to buy into their racism either. Like the poster before me...Ariana Jollee is nothing special. I couldn't care less whether she does black guys or not. The piss drinking as well as the gangbangs killed it for me. Just thought you should know.
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#8213 - 11/22/03 04:10 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 11/17/03
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Are you guys kidding? While I personally love watching little white girls taking big black dicks, the concept of a woman being able to select the flavor/character/"you name it" of that dick is pretty basic. Ariana, your porn flicks are in general pretty hot. I've seen/reviewed/jerked some jizz with them. Pretty sight...  Keep on cranking them out. To the rest of you: Is is racist not to wanna fuck every flavor of your "sex of choice" out there? Nope. Being non-racist doesn't mean you gotta fuck'em all. I have had the pleasure of sex with just about every available racial flavor of babe out there in which I was interested, but let's be honest: I wasn't paying for it or forcing it on them. If they didn't want my dick, there wouldn't have been any fuckin'. Does "political correctness" mean you gotta fuck people if you don't want to? If you don't want to buy/see/rent Ariana's stuff, that's your choice. Personally, I think she is one of the hotter porn newcummers I have seen in a few years.....and I have seen alot of porn newcummers.  Seeing a chick in porn do some guy in which she is obviously not interested is like fuckin' a chick that isn't into it. It doesn't spin my cock. I'd rather wash the dishes. Jaydee
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#8214 - 11/25/03 05:39 AM
Re: Ariana Jollee
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Stormy's Lawyer
Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 29
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Rebuttal #1 (black guys whining).
100% of white female porn performers who do boy/girl, do white guys. Whereas, as Modelgig admitted, "there are a TON of porn girls that will not shoot interracial." If the situation were the reverse (100% of white females doing black guys, but TONS of them not working with white guys), white guys would be whining and you wouldn't hear a peep out of black guys. On a side note, the current situation with IR dodgers also means that far more movie choices are available for people who only want to see white-on-white than are available for people who only want to see interracial.
Rebuttal #2 (it's her body, her choice, her decision).
Whenever I read that, it is very obvious to me that the person is not finishing the sentence. What they're really saying is that "It's her body, her choice, her decision...to discriminate on the basis of race on the job." Many people view that as wrong. Whereas, defenders of IR dodgers seem to think that their reasoning is both right and valid (it's neither). This would become obvious to them if the IR dodging situation were the reverse (see Rebuttal #1).
Her body, her choice, her decision? Yes, whether or not a person engages in a wrongful practice is always their choice, their decision, but that doesn't make it right. The right to do something doesn't necessarily make it the right thing to do.
Rebuttal #3 (I'm pacing my career by delaying interracial).
Based on Rebuttal #2, that is an unethical business or marketing strategy prima facie. It also engenders a great deal of ill will, which is not wise from a business or career standpoint. Not doing anal or DP right away is one thing, delaying IR as a marketing strategy doesn't cut it.
Secondly, announcing that you intend to do interracial at some undetermined future date sets a bad precedence for other girls in porn. The net effect is that people (of all races) who are really wanting to see a particular girl do IR, might have to wait months (or even years in some cases) longer than is really necessary. This is not fair, because people who want to see white on white don't have to wait at all.
Thirdly, those girls who have no intention of ever doing IR, can conveniently say they're going to do IR someday in an attempt to deflect criticism for their current IR dodging. IR dodgers already have a long laundry list of ready-made excuses. This just gives them one more to add to the list.
Rebuttal #4 (some girls are not attracted to black guys).
Can somebody say Ron Jeremy, Randy West, and Ed Powers? White female porn stars routinely have sex on camera with white guys they're not sexually attracted to. Porn is about people paid to fuck. Whether or not a porn chick happens to be sexually attracted to her respective partner is coincidental (and ultimately irrelevant).
Rebuttal #5 (some girls only do girl/girl, does that mean they hate men?).
That's a red herring argument. The central issue is racial discrimination in the workplace. If a girl specializes in girl/girl, no problem as long as she doesn't discriminate against working with girls of any race. Similarly, if a girl specializes in boy/girl, no problem as long as she doesn't discriminate against working with guys of any race.
The issue of a girl's personal feelings about the opposite gender or another race is irrelevant, just as long as she doesn't racially discriminate. For example, there are many girls doing boy/girl porn who dislike or even hate men, but that doesn't stop them from working with them. This is not to imply that all IR dodgers dislike or hate blacks. Some do and some don't, just as, of the white women who *do* work with blacks, some like them and some don't.
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#8216 - 11/25/03 05:41 PM
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Stormy's Lawyer
Registered: 11/24/03
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Something you left out: Some viewers don't want to see black guys fucking white bitches. Call them racist or whatever, they are still consumers and a legitimate segment that needs to be catered to.
Something you left out: Some viewers don't want to see white guys fucking white women. Call them racist or whatever, they are still consumers and a legitimate segment that needs to be catered to. However, the current situation is heavily skewed in favor of viewers who don't want to see black guys fucking white women. That's not fair. Thus, the abolition of IR dodging would make the situation more equitable for all consumers.
And if you don't want to watch black girls, I never stated or implied that you had to (or that you're racist or prejudiced if you feel that way). However, it should be acknowledged that there are many consumers (including white people) who do like to watch black women in porn.
Edited by Crowbar Justice (11/25/03 05:53 PM)
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#8217 - 11/25/03 06:04 PM
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Stormy's Lawyer
Registered: 11/24/03
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And I'd like to make another point. Take for example Taylor Rain. She's done a great many scenes. Probably 99.99% of them were with white men (I think she's done at least one scene with an Asian man). Now, if out of all those scenes, she had done just one or two with a black guy, the situation would still be heavily skewed in favor of people who don't want to see her work with black guys (hence, it would be extremely easy for a consumer to avoid her one or two IR movies). Yet, people who do want to see her do a black guy, wouldn't be entirely frustrated.
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#8219 - 11/26/03 01:07 AM
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Stormy's Lawyer
Registered: 11/24/03
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Whatever. It's not as though there's a shortage of whores that take black dick, but you obviously feel more strongly about your position that I feel about mine, so I will concede this one to you.
Thanks, Zenman. 
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#8220 - 11/26/03 04:29 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 11/26/03
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I wouldn't touch this whore with Marc Wallice's dick. YUCK!
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#8221 - 11/27/03 08:31 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 09/22/03
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100% of white female porn performers who do boy/girl, do white guys. Whereas, as Modelgig admitted, "there are a TON of porn girls that will not shoot interracial." If the situation were the reverse (100% of white females doing black guys, but TONS of them not working with white guys), white guys would be whining and you wouldn't hear a peep out of black guys. On a side note, the current situation with IR dodgers also means that far more movie choices are available for people who only want to see white-on-white than are available for people who only want to see interracial. EXACTLY! When did this list become as PC as ADT when it comes to racial preferences?  
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#8223 - 11/29/03 10:43 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 11/17/03
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Well for those interested I have fetish sections of reviews on my site for those liking black dicks on white chicks (and other flavors) porn. Black on White and Black Dick: White Chick Gangbangs http://www.breastsight.com/fetish3.htmSeveral JM Prods releases are featured here mostly from the White Trash Whores series that have black man gangbangs. If Ariana adds black dick to her onscreen menu, her stuff will be there as well. Jaydee 
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#8224 - 11/29/03 11:21 AM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 04/26/03
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Crowbar Justice, Quote:
Rebuttal #2 (it's her body, her choice, her decision).
Whenever I read that, it is very obvious to me that the person is not finishing the sentence. What they're really saying is that "It's her body, her choice, her decision...to discriminate on the basis of race on the job
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And if you don't want to watch black girls, I never stated or implied that you had to (or that you're racist or prejudiced if you feel that way).
But clearly to be consistent with the first remark he is discriminating on the basis of race. I just wonder what you feel is the difference between someone who 'discriminates on the basis of race' and a 'racist' is?
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Secondly, announcing that you intend to do interracial at some undetermined future date sets a bad precedence for other girls in porn. The net effect is that people (of all races) who are really wanting to see a particular girl do IR, might have to wait months (or even years in some cases) longer than is really necessary. This is not fair, because people who want to see white on white don't have to wait at all.
So fucking what? Let me ask you a question. Which do you think Ariana Jollee is most concerned about, her career or 'not setting a bad precedence for other girls in porn'? I'll answer on both your behalves: her career. This girl, quite rightly, would like to maximise her earnings in the short run she likely has at this game. Do you really think she is going to lose too many nights sleep worrying that you might have to wait a few months to watch future girls screwed by black guys? I don't either.
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Rebuttal #5 (some girls only do girl/girl, does that mean they hate men?).
That's a red herring argument. The central issue is racial discrimination in the workplace. If a girl specializes in girl/girl, no problem as long as she doesn't discriminate against working with girls of any race. Similarly, if a girl specializes in boy/girl, no problem as long as she doesn't discriminate against working with guys of any race.
No problem you say, but what about the other 'central issue' of sexual discrimination in the workplace?
I don't see any consistency to your argument at all, it's all over the place.
As I see it you can't have it both ways. Should workplace legislation regarding discrimination apply to porn performers choice of partners? It's a great fucking question (yeh, if you're a boring cunt like me, I know) and I for one don't know the answer. There are great arguments on both sides. What I do feel though is that if discrimination legislation applies then it applies; how can you centre your thread around racial discrimination in the workplace and then dismiss sexual discrimination with a 'no problem'?
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What's good about the Internet is it gives a place for racist porn whores to be exposed.
One thing that springs to mind is that I've never seen a black 'racist porn whore' exposed. If I look at some of WCPs titles, for example, I see a lot of lovely black girls that I've never heard of. I just wonder if all of these girls do (or are prepared to do) IR with white guys? Maybe somebody here knows?
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#8225 - 11/29/03 04:50 PM
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#8226 - 11/29/03 07:41 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 11/26/03
Posts: 73
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Has Ariana Jollee looked in the mirror lately? I expect if she did she wouldn't be so particular about who she fucks for money.
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#8227 - 11/30/03 06:39 AM
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ADT regular
Registered: 11/29/03
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Ooooooh, so mean!
That's such an insult. Did you learn that in Fifth Grade?
She's a bombshell. Or else you are blind.
Anyway, Dion just offered her an all-Black Dude Gang Bang for RLD, so that should make all you haters cum in your sticky knee-pants.
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#8229 - 11/30/03 04:50 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 11/26/03
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You White boys can have her. Keep pissing on her face for all I care.
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#8230 - 09/05/05 03:51 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/18/05
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What are you talking about Ariana being a racist??? I fucked her in a gangbang and it was great. She did five black guys (I was one of them). The only complaint she had was when I cummed on her hair. But she then laughed and kissed me on the lips. We had to cut the scene short because we wore her out and she was sore, but overall it was a pretty good scene. She was always nice so these "racist" claims are unsubstantiated. Peace!
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#8231 - 09/05/05 04:40 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 06/03/04
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dude...I don't know if you noticed at all but that thread is almost 2 years old.....2 FUCKING YEARS OLD.....you can't rehash some thread that old with something like that....do I need to explain all the changes that can take place in that period of time....
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#8233 - 09/05/05 04:53 PM
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Porn Jesus
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At that time Ariana hasn't shot a scene with a black guy. She has now.
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