Which ladies has the best overall average score in all categories like looks, humiliation, genuinetude, etc.? Sasha Grey's verbal histrionics immediately disqualify her. Trinity Post is too homely. Melanie Jagger never allowed herself to be humiliated & degraded to the degree I require for stroke worthiness. Ashley Blue perhaps has the best all around score.

Kaitlyn Ashley? Debi Diamond? Careena Collins?

Sarah Vandella?

I forgot the most important thing: gagging on dicks, geniune gagging and forceable deepthroat with certifiable and quantifiable respiratory distress. I needn't point out this excludes most ladies whose careers ended pre 1999 or there abouts. Which it pains me to say disqualifies Trish Devereaux.

Your sister. After you passed out from the vodka, she would call me, and I'd knock the back of her twat like there was no tomorrow.

Nah 'sock, I wouldn't say she's the greatest but you can't rule out early JM standard bearer ultra whore Candy Apples who dominated mid-90s gonzo gangbangs and gagging before it was cool.

Maybe it should be one of these chicks who really "gave it all" for porn: Britney Madison,Haley Paige, Savannah, Amber Rayne, Anastasia Blue, Judy Star.

Is that the prowrestler type woman who was on an efukt clip someone posted here a few months back all about gagging? She was all "I'm basically going to commit suicide with cock today. Kill me."

Siobhan Hunter, Kaitlyn Ashley [good one Steezo], Ashlyn Gere, Vanessa Del Rio [unfucking real] and modern even though she does nothing for me Nina Hartley. I always loved Kari Foxx too. Did anal with only one dude I know of but did it often.

Most girls today are robotic and vacuous as fuck. Not much eroticism at all.

I have quite a different take on this as you can imagine. Suffice it to say the horrifyingly unending supply of young ladies offering themselves up as lambs for slaughtering I find profoundly erotic in its spectacle. I can't imagine many if any of them have any illusions or misconceptions what is in store for them at this late stage. Some still go on misguided crusades to beat the casino at its own game like your Sasha Greys or your Belles Knoxes, but most seem all to eager to be victimized and dehumanized on camera for our hateful delught. It's vwry curious and high in temperature.

I seen her get hit over the head with a dead fish in a Rob Black thing. There was a dead octopus involved also.

Of that club Naughtia Childs is my favorite. But as far as I know she never gagged. Please prove me wrong on that.

Naughtia Childs was so goddamned cute, just adorable. A heartbreaker. She did an 'American Bukkake'. In it Bernice Ferrous took her by surprise by slapping her hard with his penis after he dropped his load on her. She responded "Shit, dude! Sock me in the jaw!"

Audrey Hollander, Crystal Ray, Julie Knight, and Kara Price. Oh. And Kelly Wells, FTW.

Julie Night...good call.

Annette Schwarz or Bobbi Starr. Or, preferably, both.

Gianna Michaels would appear to score high in all the criteria. I've seen her gagged out horrifically on a number of occasions. Yet for all her feminine curvatures there is something unnervingly masculine about her. Masculine and untouchable. It appears to be nearly impossible to humiliate and degrade her properly. And I imagine her familial relationships aren't effected at all by her pornography. They probably just roll their eyes at her over it, like if she'd just gone base jumping or something. So obviously she does not make the cut.

This bitch is smokin' fuckin' hot.

Women hate being called cocksockets. Fuckpig is the more socially acceptable term.

What is more important, depravity or sexual humiliation? Ashley Blue is depraved. Nearly every girl Max Hardcore has ever worked with was sexually humiliated.

And yet I am not at all interested in Hardcore's work. Interesting question and you are now causing me to think. Clearly I am still working this out and in my default setting of intellectual laziness I apply terminology without much care. Truly if I can articulate the very clear distinction in my mind between Blue and Michaels I would be getting somewhere. I just can't at the moment. Michaels gags on dicks and yet she doesn't. Blue gags on dicks. There is no barriers between her and the dicks in her piehole and the dicks beyond the fourth wall.

Or to put it another way:
If I was to have a relationship with Blue I would have to systematically murder every dude whose pestering penii she gagged on in pornography or I would never get a decent night's sleep. Were I to have a relationship with Michaels I wouldn't care about this and would sleep like a baby with no harm done.

Either way you gets da herp.

I think I misread the original post. We're talking not about the "greatest cocksucker" but the greatest cocksocket. So it seems that we're talking more about a woman who best takes the abuse and degradation of a Max Hardcore-style shoot. For my money, then, if we're considering depravity and humiliation coupled with physical attractiveness, it has to be Annette Schwarz. Bobbi Starr cannot be the greatest cocksocket of all time simply because, although Bobbi had one hell of a hungry gullet, except for a select few appearances in Jake Malone stuff she never seemed to be humiliated by any of it.

I agree with everything you've said, but Annette Schwarz has guzzled gallons of piss, and done it with a smile on her face. If she has a sense of shame, I've never seen any evidence of it.

I don't know what Bobbi Starr would have done with Jake Malone that was more humiliating then having another porn whore shit a milk enema into her mouth, and she smiled convincingly enough during that scene.

That brings back fond memories of a scene she did in a 'Gangbang My Face' wherein she clearly has a bit of a nervous breakdown at one point. A black man with a ginormous peter straddles her face and pushes it in to deeply and for too long and she pushes away and cries out in what to my ears sounds like a broken souled moment of clarity existential angst inarticulation. Later in a post assault interview Malobe tags on as a capper she insist that puke came out of her nose and it freaked her out and that's all, and further insists she enjoyed herself and was not pushed over the edge in the slightest. I must keep in mind though that perhaps she is telling the truth and that my perception is tainted by the projections of my rotten soul.

Humiliated AND degraded.

Was this a 'Human Centipede' pornography parody?

Bobbi was quite beautiful and convincingly pulled off the act of seeming like a cool and upbeat chick. And good golly she could take a throat beating and ass pounding like a champ. I wonder if there are any scenes where Bobbi took a fist up her shitter. There must be about 50 where she crams her fist up a girl's bunghole, but did Bobbi take one?

Great porn insight here Windsock.

I have to agree that Annette and Bobbi never seemed humiliated by their degradation but turned on or a reasonable facsimile of it.

I think I'd have to reach back to something like the girl with Jamie Gillis in Winter Heat who he forces to deep throat him after slapping her around and tying his belt around her throat. Her whimpers and crying seem disturbingly real.

Or the infamous scene with Harry Reems playing a psychotic Vietnam Vet in Forced Entry where he forces a woman at gunpoint to sloppily blow him and ends the scene by cutting her throat.

I prefer using the term fucktoys.

^ Each of these terms should be preceded by the adjectives: "useless" or "disgusting" or maybe even both.

Bobbi Starr may have my vote. Absolute whore with no limits, yet if you saw here in public she'd be totally unassuming.