Well, somewhere someone mentioned that there won't be any next Jenna Jameson and that Jesse Jane probably was the last actual porn star to have been made.
It might've worked out rather well for both. There are no comparisons I can think of right now approaching their success, although Tera Patrick had a good run once.

Porn stardom and porn performance don't tend to line up, as feature porn seems to take care of their investment differently and much more offensively than the gonzo jungle.

If by "last actual porn star to have been made" you mean their plastic surgeon retired, OK.

As annoying as her yapping may be, Sasha Grey has had more mainstream success and is a more recognizable name than Jesse Jane. Jesse started 4 years before Sasha.

And there will be others.

The guy meant those who were pumped up through marketing, just like Jenna Jameson got heavy PR while at Wicked and Vivid.
Of course especially these two had some wear and tear which is beyond redemption via scalpel.

Success beyond porn.

Jesse Jane walked through the scene at some pool and was in the final cut of the film or show. Seen from behind in a bikini exclusively. That's glamorous.

Sasha Grey played an escort whore in a film directed by someone with some type of name. That's more glamorous. She still played a whore.

Mainstream glam won't happen in porn. Many will try.

i think jesse jane,teagan,and another dp girl wore strap ons in a cameo on entourage.i dont remember who the other girl was.

According to IMDB it was Devon.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0572405/

that could have been a top 5 list.

the chick that wrote this isn't bad looking though

Odds that is Darrah ......

looking through her tumblr it could be. that hooker does love her p0rn interviews.

The only 5 of these worth a download:

Staci Silverstone [never seen before]
Anikka Albrite
Remy Lacroix
Riley Reid
Lily Carter

And Darrah was always obsessed, IMHO, with Jenna Jameson being mainstream. Which I never bought into. And, the impact she would have on the next set of whores.

If I mention Jenna Jameson to a group of women, few would know who I was taking about. Even less if its Sasha Grey.

But, if I say Marilyn Chambers, I'd say I get decent name recognition.

Linda Lovelace, likely the highest.

Uomo did you have a sedar?

Of the currently active girls, I'd say Stoya has the greatest cross-over potential. She has some serious acrobatic skills too.

Two, in fact. First as a participant. Last night as "leader".

jewy, but i'd fuck her. bet she likes getting treated like shit.

Disagree. I have never seen anything that Grey was in, and after seeing a pic of her, it's clear why. Even after seeing a pic, if you put her in a line up of whores, I'd never be able to pick her out. Jesse and Jenna however....that's a different story. Both those stick out as your typical porn whore. Blonde hair, big fake titties. What most non complete pervs like you think of a whore. Grey, if memory serves me correct, is rather plain, and completely unappealing. My guess is that the "fame' she has gained is from doing the less appealing work. But these whores should realize it wasn't just the looks that put Tera, Jenna and Jesse to the top of the list, it's what they did with their careers

It was more all the advertising than anything they "did with their careers". All of them were AWFUL pornstars.

Sasha was foisted upon us as a possible mainstream by mainstream people who found her teenage angst philosophicsophomoricbabble "intellectual".

But, as you noted, it has been an epic FAIL.

Did Jenna or Jesse ever have an ass like this?


Did Jenna ever put her's to good use? According to IAFD Jesse never did. I figure the Pirates scene was a group one and someone else took it hard way.


I could give a crap what Sasha's thoughts are.

Jesse Jane most likely never did anal. If she did, it's unreleased material.
She blurbed about it once in a commentary of a feature flick, maybe being ready for the chute biz, but probably just wanted to tease marketing and set price levels high at the beginning of a possible cavity rights negotiation.
Her ass doesn't look like the one on Sasha Grey and let her down, down, down. Her asshole's worn out. It just doesn't look that hot after two or so kids gestated in the other room.

IAFD says neither Jenna nor Jesse did anal.

Fixed that for you.

I think that's an important point here. The amount of advertising and promotion available to Tera and Jenna will not be equaled in these days of porn's budgets. You don't see big posters and display pieces of porn chicks anymore, do you? (@Fartz)
I also think that's a valid point about performance. Those girls were marketable because of their model looks on box covers and display items. I don't think they were launched into stardom because of their on-screen tactics as much as their photogenecy.(is that a word)

Yeah, IAFD's fun and all, but neither precise nor complete.
Jesse Jane anal stuff isn't released, even if it's shot. Rather simple.

Sasha Grey had fans young and old all over for being a whore marketed by the whore maker. Easy money. Well.


Derek Hay mentioned in some documentary that, while there was a market for hot whores in the 90's who could get a pass on performance due to their look - he named it not liking sex very much -, that this is not the case anymore in the then current porn world, that more was needed.

Filthy gonzo whores don't get driven out to their full potential in general feature fucking.
Gonzo or nothing for most anyway.

Thx.

They felt that they could market a porn slut mainstream if she was a philosopher of sorts.

It was more mainstream guys trying to find a legitimate way of slumming with porn people than actually breaking a glass ceiling.

The only "mainstream" porn are things like 9 Songs, Chloe's BJ in the Brown Bunny and whatever Kerry Fox film it was ...

i'm with ya on the sasha grey mainstream bit but she looked dumpy next to the hollywood types in her entourage scenes.

No.

But neither are:

Photogenicality. Photogenicness. Photogenication.

Maybe try:

"I don't think they were launched into stardom because of their on-screen tactics as much as for being photogenic."

Dumpy is the new "hot"



It seems Fat Man's obsession Cali and Marie Cherish was just trend setting in taste because that bad actress of young adult vampire movies could be the third sister of those cum DUMPYsters.




Under bites are so fucking vomit inducing.

Kristen Stewart ......

I think Paula Malcomson is a better analog to THE Twins.



Blonde. Blue. 5-head. That Scot-Irish Hard.

No not at all. Nobody gives a fuck about names anymore as far as I can see. People are more interested in price-point. It's not 2006 anymore where guys are willing to shell out fifty bucks for a two and a half hour DVD because it has one of "their girls" in it. These days, it's price first, quality second.


Jenna was a fucking fluke anyway. She would have been a run-of-the-mill blonde if it wasn't for Howard Stern. He's the guy that shoved her down the throats of a much broader, nationally driven audience. The timing was just right, as well. It was the mid nineties and porn was shifting into something more hardcore and market ready. She was extremely "right place, right time" so to speak. She couldn't act. She had a body that was no better or worse than the current flavors and she wasn't very hardcore either. She owes every single cent she earned to Howard and Orenstein to a degree.

Great point.

I've always thought the same thing. I never once spilled to her. She was a dime a dozen bottle blonde. Nothing really special.

It really could've just as easily been Amy Azurra. Or any surgically enhanced blonde.

I used to have what I think was Jenna's first Hustler centerfold, w/ her real tits. They were fucking sweet. After the bolt ons I lost interest.

Exactly what happened to me when Mirage added bolt-ons to devolve into Briana Banks.

it wasnt just her being on howard,i think being on the e! show:wild on really helped her.i still remember how hot her and her fake tits looked in the corset and skirt she was wearing.shit,she was so hot when she was young.

Yeah, but Howard opened the door. She even said so in her book. Yes, I read that piece of garbage. We had it in the store for years unsold, and on a customer-less Thanksgiving, I knocked it out in one shift out of sheer boredom.

I don't even think it humane to force criminals to read that vile drivel.

I love Bill Margold's quote that Jenna is to porn what The Monkees are to rock music.

Quite a severe dig at the Monkees, no?

lol

so according to margold which whore is the beatles?. i'd love to know.

and fartz nailed it with the howard assessment and to add to that from my own personal experience... jenna(and howard) made it cool to be a whore. i don't think there were many dudes watching porn with their old ladys before jenna hit big and she was like sex in the city for the 90's girl.

My fav Monkees reference is from the mid 90s shoegazer wars between the bands Oasis and Pulp. They would talk shit about each other in the press and at one point the guy from Oasis offered up an olive branch. He said ok, Oasis is like the Beatles and Pulp is like the Stones. The guy from Pulp replied: No, we're the Stones AND the Beatles and you guys are the Monkees.

Ginger Lynn:Beatles::Jenna:Bad Monkey's cover band

Loved Oasis and their silly antics. The one brother blowing out his voice and couldn't sing at Unplugged. So he sat in the balcony smoking cigarettes and swilling champagne while the other goofy brother took over the voice duties and nailed it. Fuck. They were the Monkeys.

exactly Barry. those guys were a bunch of fun for a little while.