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#606678 - 02/23/14 10:55 AM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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... I mean: It's so over in the Los Angeles scene... it ain't even funny.

A year ago, Twitter was full-on lit up about who was shooting what and for whom.
You kind of got an idea that porn wasn't just some shady freak show, that it had potential to rise up and take its place in entertainment as a whole and out of the shadows of sleaze and the mob from way back.

It was fun while it lasted, but who are we kidding now anyway?

It's all lost on the legal side and our talented talent, our dear boys taking on the big, career-defining gigs at a moment's notice have to be wrapped in rubber - no, no, fuck, no.

Now look at that asshole capturing this moment.
Just rude and about as depressing as my gut, little Asian flower.

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#607013 - 02/28/14 08:13 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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#607026 - 02/28/14 10:30 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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#607027 - 02/28/14 10:39 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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"random seizure" at avn huh?. then she walked away after a ride to the hospital.. crazy

i guess that happens and it's about as depressing as a post shower shit and almost as traumatizing in a daily schedule type way.

this isn't quite fake cancer though is it?.
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#607056 - 03/01/14 10:44 AM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
Bornyo Offline
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Lou, a post-shower shit is also very depressing...in a futile feeling sort of way.

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#607139 - 03/04/14 09:50 AM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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A: Highlander was right.

B: Die, oxymoron.

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#607396 - 03/10/14 04:00 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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#608057 - 03/19/14 09:50 AM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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[Retard link.]


[Whore babble.]

My journey into the porn industry started in 2005. I went by the stage name Andi Anderson. When I first began, I would work and go to school Monday through Friday and then go to LA on the week-ends. I did every hardcore type of scene (anal, double penetrations, gangbangs, etc.). After two years, I moved to LA (porn valley) and lived the life of money, fame, drugs and constant partying. At first, when I moved and chose to perform in pornographic films, I was so adamant about NOT doing drugs and alcohol. But, after a year or so of that so-called “glamorous” life, I sadly discovered that drugs and drinking were a part of the lifestyle. I began to drink and party out of control! Cocaine, alcohol and ecstasy were my favorites. Before long, I turned into a person I did not want to be. After doing so many hardcore scenes I couldn’t do it anymore. I just remember being in horrible situations and experiencing extreme depression and being alone and sad. I got a boyfriend in the industry which ended up dragging me into an even darker depression. I remember being in a dark room, drunk and high on cocaine. I wanted to kill myself. Suicide seemed to be the only thing that felt right for me. I was hurt over and over, so many times in this industry.


[Whore gobble.]








[Neo-vintage porn documentary.]




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#608061 - 03/19/14 10:50 AM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
Jerkules Offline
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Meh. 50/50 if she would have been drugged out and depressed w/o porn.
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#608072 - 03/19/14 01:27 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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If drugs and booze made Andi do all of those terrible things, thank holy fucking Jesus for drugs and booze.

I think I'll rub one out to one of her scenes tonight.

EDIT: Wait a minute. After checking the link, she's actually coming back. Hah! That's comedy gold. I wonder how she's looking these days, and how's she gonna spin it?

This kind of shit makes me love the crazy whores. When kept at arm's length, they provide hours of train wreck style laughs.


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#608078 - 03/19/14 03:57 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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Andi Anderson isn't the seller of the documentary; it's rather Belladonna, talking about things that really made her suffer.

[The first embedded clip below's age-restricted.]
[In the second clip, at 04:10 the good stuff happens.]




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#608083 - 03/19/14 04:47 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
Jerkules Offline
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I can barely stomach Belladonna on video naked, no way im listening to her yap while clothed.
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#608085 - 03/19/14 05:10 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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Melting down. At the time specified. Cunt.

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#608109 - 03/20/14 01:42 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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I'd bang her stretched out ass in a heartbeat.
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#608116 - 03/20/14 02:30 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: Jerkules]
Bluecipher Offline
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Andi Anderson could have been a contender. Her lip desecration sank the ship and she got into DP IR way too early. They rode her hard and put her away depressed and wet.
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#608117 - 03/20/14 02:32 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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Originally Posted By: PulpeD



...


Is this a retired Priya Rai with her White Knight?
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#608122 - 03/20/14 02:53 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: Jerkules]
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Originally Posted By: Jerkules
I can barely stomach Belladonna on video naked, no way im listening to her yap while clothed.


I liked her early scenes. Later on she just annoyed me and that tattoo got old fast. I could care less what she has to say.
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#608124 - 03/20/14 03:52 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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Originally Posted By: Bluecipher
Is this a retired Priya Rai with her White Knight?

The status of the whore beside old James Bartholet - would it be relevant?

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#608126 - 03/20/14 04:45 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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I try not to focus on the white knight but on the slag he's trying to save (or poke).
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#608149 - 03/20/14 11:16 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
Jerkules Offline
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Mike South put a whore on blast the other day. Hear is her side of the story: http://therealpornwikileaks.com/bimbo-proves-mike-south-everything-claims-hate/
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#608412 - 03/26/14 06:06 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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#608462 - 03/27/14 05:08 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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#608463 - 03/27/14 05:40 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
Jerkules Offline
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You know how they have South dead to rights? All he says is "consider the source". If his testing protocols were more stringent, it would only take a paragraph to explain them. AND he would love to do nothing more than point out everything that was wrong in the article, to discredit Whiteacre. But he doesn't, because he can't.

If you could peek into South's emails right now, you would likely see messages sent to other performers he worked with, telling them what to say if contacted.

Pathetic fuck spouts off on how LA porn should be run, while he's scamming pussy from bimbo strippers and runnin a slipshod outfit. No wonder he was a failure at being an agent, just like Donkey and Rob Black. He needs to stay down there in HuckleFuck so he can play porn bigshot and snowball the rubes.

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#608465 - 03/27/14 06:14 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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Porn whore disputes South's claim about having an OSHA person on set.

http://therealpornwikileaks.com/adult-performer-jessica-chase-says-mike-south-lying-ass-avn/


Originally Posted By: Jessica Chase
LMFAO! Is he serious? That’s such BS.

There was NO ONE ELSE in the room for our boy/girl [January 10, 2014]. I got in later in the evening. We shot the boy girl then. I repeat, no one else in the room. He is lying his ass off!

There was no one else with us on the trip to Florida either. When Lindsey Lovehands and I shot it was just us and South in the house as Lindsey’s husband was at work.

I really appreciate you guys being through and making sure people in the industry are aware of such a narcissistic, blatant disregard for performer safety. Mike South’s ego literally outweighs his judgment. It’s pathetic.


Edited by Jerkules (03/27/14 06:16 PM)
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#608466 - 03/27/14 06:18 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
Bluecipher Offline
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Is this the offending video?

Southern Bukakke's "Jessica Returns"

Southern Bukakke

I wonder if they serve okra and hush puppies at the craft services table of a southern bukakke session.
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#608469 - 03/27/14 06:29 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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Originally Posted By: Jerkules
You know how they have South dead to rights? All he says is "consider the source". If his testing protocols were more stringent, it would only take a paragraph to explain them. AND he would love to do nothing more than point out everything that was wrong in the article, to discredit Whiteacre. But he doesn't, because he can't.

If you could peek into South's emails right now, you would likely see messages sent to other performers he worked with, telling them what to say if contacted.

Pathetic fuck spouts off on how LA porn should be run, while he's scamming pussy from bimbo strippers and runnin a slipshod outfit. No wonder he was a failure at being an agent, just like Donkey and Rob Black. He needs to stay down there in HuckleFuck so he can play porn bigshot and snowball the rubes.


The pic won't tell you that testing doesn't make it all good when the orientation in time is forwards and so it looks like an idiotic cult of incapable minds, fervantly hanging on to delusion most basic scientific understanding lays bare as tales from a twisted fairy.


What's somewhat amusing here is that usually, South tries to drum up some bullshit in an attempt to make porn not look how it is and rather how he would've liked it all to have turned out, generally when someone really fucks people over and so forth and who then tend to get blamed for all and everything there seems to be off in the general area of video fucking.

This type of casting out the demon's all very touching, doesn't change shit one fucking bit eventually though and lets the hickster creep come across as a major mongoloid.


Bluecipher's link looks as if it was part of the video package she shot for mister serious gonzo porn journalist.

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#608470 - 03/27/14 06:41 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
Jerkules Offline
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I figure trailer park meth and Mountain Dew. No meth till after you pop though.
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#608471 - 03/27/14 06:45 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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I guess that if it's an IR bukakke scene there's fried chicken to be had. Talent gets $50 or a plate of corn, okra, mashed 'taters and some fried chicken, but not both. Hot sauce extra.
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#608476 - 03/27/14 08:17 PM Re: Mike South's Lies and Lack of Testing [Re: drained]
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Rob Black's take on this South stuff.

http://www.adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=60334


Edited by Jerkules (03/27/14 08:18 PM)
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#608480 - 03/27/14 09:51 PM Re: Mike South's Lies and Lack of Testing [Re: drained]
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#608483 - 03/28/14 02:34 AM Re: Mike South's Lies and Lack of Testing [Re: drained]
Jerkules Offline
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Nice pic of Mike South. It is bad when Tee Reel gets booked to work with one of his agency's whores, but when South bullshits a chick wanting to start her own site into having him be the male talent (w/o a current test by the way) then it is A-OK. Hypocrite bag o' shit.

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#608490 - 03/28/14 08:47 AM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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The hickster shafting echo two from above has comments worth a look.
It's like South dribbled over his keyboard while passing out on moonshine and the resulting short-circuit broadcasts the madness.

______________________________________________________________________________________________

It’s Weird How Often I Get Miscategorized

By Mike South

March 27th, 2014


I Don’t know if porners are just that stupid or if maybe I’m not clear.

I tell porners hey we got a problem with STDs in Porn Valley and we might wanna use condoms til we address that and suddenly that means I’m on the side of Michael Weinstein and AHF.

Or I say maybe we should consider putting hardcore material behind a wall that requires a credit card to get through, suddenly that means I am for a law to accomplish that.

Of course neither is true, I simply try to point out problems that I see waiting to bite us in the ass and my detractors try to use that to twist my views so that they might discredit me.

Ya know why they do that? One of my readers pointed it out in a private email….They do it because they are afraid of what I am saying. The thing that puzzles me is why…Do they somehow think that I am tipping off authorities or whomever, that if it weren’t for me these things would go unnoticed? Surely they aren’t that naive.

Another reader pointed out that they will go to great lengths to distract the attention that is falling on The FSC and Doctor Kulbersh and Dr Pirani, what’s interesting about that one is that this person works for…AVN, and has direct ties to people in The FSC.

I get it, but I aint going anywhere and I aint changin nothing. And for the record, if you have any questions about where I stand on an issue…all ya gotta do is ask.



@punisher_the0:

@MikeSouth1226 Ignore them,at this pointThem stupid. be nOther.


@MikeSouth1226:

It’s Weird How Often I Get Miscategorized http://t.co/s2BTMEPeYw


jilted:

Right now there is an article on AVN regarding the accusations made against Mike regarding testing. But those making the accusations seem to have left our a VERY IMPORTANT peice of this puzzle.
The female performer claims that a number of people she shot with were not tested, or she didnt see the results, and somehow this is Mikes fault. But those making the accusations dont even mention that this female performer admits to working with 6 or 9 men, did not see any tests, claims some werent even tested, but she made the CHOICE to do the scene anyway.

I wonder what APAC would tell a female performer who worked with 8 people and didnt verify their tests. Why no condemnation of this female performer who worked bareback with untested talent?

And Mikes response to the accusations was classic, “Consider the source” You pegged that one Mike.


LurkingReader replied:

@Jilted

Deny, deflect, distort and if that doesn’t work retaliate!

Lots of problems with this smear campaign..and the folks running it!

It’s a habit to skim then read for detail retention…I stopped reading the AVN linked article at
“She recalls, “I went through Talent Testing on my own accord (he had actually told me not to waste the money because he tests everyone with an OraQuick HIV test).”

The credibility of this performer as a reliable source is zip, she knows before she leaves home the FIRST time what she is walking into…decided to do it then cry foul after she goes back for a second time and willingly participates in the situation.

I’m not saying that all she says isn’t true…I’m saying..
1. You’re pretty desperate to discredit someone with this type of source
2. The article really got ridiculous with the BF going along for the fun on second trip and as a secondary source…
3. The smear campaign and story would have worked IF she and her BF showed up with the FSC testing panel, asked for condoms, got refused, and walked away because they were only offered Ora-Quick.
4. As a self appointed chief FSC barker Whiteacre has no clue how fucking stupid his deep throat shit comes across
5. The purely retaliatory nature of his increasing smear campaigns discredits the “copy & paste” distortions he tries to pass off as truth
6. kernes Whiteacre quote screws both of their credibility as FSC barkers…ooops

“This claim, however, is one Whiteacre takes direct issue with in his piece: “[W]ithout a universal testing AND monitoring/surveillance system that could access records of the test results of all performers with whom he worked both before AND AFTER they worked with him, South could not possibly know for certain whether any of his performers had ever contracted an STI.”

Aww shucks for a smart guy…sure is stupid to use the intentional flaw in the system you promote to discredit the enemy.

OTH…if there’s any truth in this…Ora-quick is in no way sufficient testing for BB performance!


jilted:

And then the very next article on AVN is about a new release coming out, with anal creampies. Hows that for healthy? ONLY IN PORN


Lacey Blake replied:

@jilted -
You left out the fact that she wasn’t even sure how many dicks she sucked in one day… how do actually forget that?

I will say I did find it rather humorous how they included OSHA threats in there along with the legality of porn in GA. Hello Florida and various other states… plus, the fact that it has been stated an OSHA rep. is on set.


BrookeTyler replied:

Ok, let’s just be honest here. Any producer shooting a scene, myself included, should be asking for tests from all parties. Tests that include the full panel. It’s now around $150 to $180. If you can’t afford the full panel test, then you can’t afford to be in porn. Anyone who argues otherwise is just going to lose any and all credibility…period. I don’t care what you’re doing, girl girl, blowjob scenes, whatever, you should be full panel tested. I agree, ultimately it’s the performer’s choice and if he or she decides to take a risk, and many do, then so be it. I also know that even evil Manwin/MindGeek shoots don’t take place unless everyone provides a legitimate full panel test. You can get stupid and argue the legitimacy or reliability of these tests, but it’s the best system in place and leaps and bounds beyond not having a full panel test. Someone has got to explain this OSHA rep on the set thing to me. Let’s be a bit more honest. Testing isn’t being done on a large scale basis. In fact, unless you’re shooting in LA or Vegas or the larger sets in FL, a good portion of talent isn’t spending the money nor are they using condoms.


Lacey Blake replied:

@Brooke -
I understand exactly what you’re saying, but if you want to be completely honest most have no fucking idea whether the shooting of pornography outside CA and NH is actually legal or not other than by default because no one has or wants to challenge the law and get guidelines and or specific regulations in place to protect the industry as a whole…

So, at this point it’s just a bunch of “should do this” or “it would be nice if you did that.”

The only enforced regulation at the moment is condom mandatory in CA/LA and they can’t even be bothered with that… the FSC can’t enforce shit. It’s a bunch of companies and people running around telling each other what to do…

I don’t remember the specifics about the OSHA rep. on set… we discussed it awhile ago. Either one was called to set or somehow showed up on set. I’ll have to try to find it…


jilted replied:

“If he or she decides to take the risk,,,then so be it.” And there is the entire problem in a nutshell. Not attacking you personally Brooke, but the “so be it’ attitude that way to many performers have is the reason for so many of the stds in the industry. The risk YOU decide to take is meaningless,,,its the risk that your partner takes, that you have no idea about that is going to get ya.
how would you like to work with this girl the day after she supposedly worked with 8 untested guys? But she could just say thats the risk i decided to take,,,forgetting the whole time that she passes that risk on to everyone else in the next few days.

EVERY SINGLE PERFORMER IS AT THE SAME RISK LEVEL AS THE RISKIEST PERSON IN THE PERFORMER POOL. And with all the crossovers, and girls willing to work with 8 untested guys, well you figure it out.

The degrees of seperation in the porn pool are too small to think any one performer is safer than another. You are all at in an exremely high risk group, actually, beyond extremely high risk.


erik2690:

It’s Weird How Often I Get Miscategorized as a “porner”. I am not. Was there a single other person who was arguing against you on the paywall? Who are you referring to?

This is not you saying “serious advantage to” creating a law? What are you openly considering there if not a law?:

“For a long time I have have wrestled with the idea of government legislation that would force any hardcore content to be behind a portal that requires a credit card or debit card to open. I see serious advantages”

I don’t see “serious advantages”. That was my position.

MikeSouth replied:

Thats fair enough erik…the advantage would be what it does to piracy sites and tubesites….at least to some degree. Id be the first to tell you that the better solution is to redo the safe harbor in copyright law but that nowhere near as popular in an election cycle as lets protect the children…


erik2690 replied:

So was I the “porner” you were talking about? I kinda think it’s valid to know if you were miscategorizing me in a post about getting miscategorized. If not was there someone else pushing back on the paywall issue that I didn’t see? I think we just fundamentally disagree on the severity and size of the problem of underage viewing. I think that’s what it comes down to. When considering children’s unprotected status online do you rank seeing porn/sex as more damaging than violence? Where does it stop? When you say “serious advantage” to legislating paywalls, I just see a step in the wrong direction. Anyway, I appreciate the explanation, we probably won’t agree on the severity and thus the solution.
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MikeSouth replied:

No erik you arent teh only one even AVN routinely does it…but they are morons…so they have an excuse I reckon


erik2690 replied:

Fair enough, I saw this part: “Or I say maybe we should consider putting hardcore material behind a wall that requires a credit card to get through, suddenly that means I am for a law to accomplish that.” as directed at me, but I guess our minds let us think thing’s are about us specifically. Ego I suppose. Well, just to be clear for future reference: I have zero direct or tangential link to “porn” or in fact any porn person. As far as I know I’ve never even met someone who worked in porn. My link is that I watch and follow a few on Twitter. My checking in on the issues on this site is not easily logically explained, but it isn’t because I’m a “porner”.


LurkingReader replied:

@Mike

Agree about safe harbor and let’s protect the children as election themes. Beyond the election cycle are dueling coalitions and alliances over ?????reform to meet social and tech advances, then ya got politicians signing on here and there for this and that …then bits and pieces get passed in a separate unrelated but popular bipartisan Bill.

Most of those bits and pieces have only been weighed against existing directly related policy to meet here and now issues and more than half of them are to fix issues created by the last package of bit & pieces.


BrookeTyler:

I do have a question, where do you stand on using legitimate full panel testing for all porn shoots whether there is penetration or not?


MikeSouth replied:

My personal take is that periodic full panel testing is required I cant say i do it every 30 days because I sometimes dont shoot for more than 30 days but i prefer the tests to be recent which is why I generally shoot in bursts. That said the overriding factor is what makes the girl comfy…for instance if you shot and you wanted everyone to have a full panel less than a week old AND a same day oraquick test (which i also do regardless) then thats fine…

Also remember my guys work ONLY for me, they arent in that porn talent pool being exposed every day every one of my guys has been doing this for a minimum of 3 years some much longer so that long history of negative tests also factors in (for me) because I know these guys and what they do. AVN said I dont use industry standard testing and that is true….and thats why i am not “up to my ass in Chlamydia and Gonorrhea” like porn valley is. if there is no penetration or even a solo scene with a dildo I don’t care if she is tested or not (i dont reuse toys except for glass dildos). If I shot a husband and wife in a boy girl scene together i dont care if they are tested or not, I think common sense kinda prevails


BrookeTyler replied:

I appreciate you saying so but that completely contradicts just about everything you have been saying for the last year or so. I just can’t see the logic nor do I doubt that any medical professional would see any logic in using your personal judgement of people as part of a method you use to screen for STDs. I just can’t get behind calling people out when you’re doing the same and arguably worse. Watching the blame being shifted to the girls or attacking their credibility when what they claim is true is mind completely mind boggling.


MikeSouth replied:

I get what yer saying…its a complex issue for example sometimes I shoot gangbangs when i do no matter what the testing I always strongly recommend the girl require condoms. I dont shoot much boy girl but when i do if we are having unprotected sex off camera Im fine without condoms when it comes to any other situation I leave it up to performers. now that may seem at odds with what I say but it isnt…Im in a microcosm what works for me isnt going to work in porn valley and vice versa. The reason I have advocated for condoms in the short term…and let me reemphasize that in the short term…is because the industry has a problem and until that problem is brought under control and a reasonable and workable solution is worked out then we need to do the responsible thing because it is best for the industry to do so. Had we done so we wouldnt be having the problems we are now….no point in passing a condom law on an industry that using them…


LurkingReader replied:

@mike

“no point in passing a condom law on an industry that using them…”

In theory you’d be correct…in reality going all condom is the quickest way to get mandated condoms. Policy development is a fine art of balancing existing laws and best practices. Those best practices are most often based on the most effective means currently in place by the affected entities.

Going all condom for a time to get OSHA and/or local legislators off your back would have the same effect as a moratorium does on stopping those already infected from testing positive. Its also the reason that I’m very specific in saying…develop an effective alternative to the one size fits all barrier being thrown at the industry.

Condoms are not a one size fits all product, nor will they offer the adult industry a one size fits all solution.

In its simplest form, labor & Osha best practices = Pre-employment fitness screening, safety training, ongoing risk assessment with commensurate response implementation…as a standard applied to all businesses.


BrookeTyler replied:

No, that doesn’t work. Not only does it not work, about the only acceptable answer here would be “I don’t practice what I preach.” Sorry. If you say you ride a high horse and show up on miniature pony…people are going to notice. The procedures your using are so bad it makes Porn Valley look good. In addition, I cannot believe the little band of regulars, who seem to have found a home here, who throw out all their little facts and figures condemning everyone under the sun yet they dance around this issue with very, very careful steps. Some of these anonymous warriors even have the gall to run around telling people they are industry writers, even though they have never set a foot on a porn set. They anonymously toss grenades at anyone or anything for any reason and then argue back and forth among themselves and sometimes, oddly enough, all by themselves. Nevertheless, here is the biggest story that ever broke on your site…and I do mean ever, and they sit quietly and pat you on the back. Don’t you find the ass kissing a bit nauseating? I can assure you everyone else does at this point. Maybe you simply don’t see it, and that’s OK. But, just by virtue of what this little band of anonymous compadres have accused, condemned, vilified, of just about everyone in porn valley at this point, they should be all over you like pit bulls chasing a rabbit. Funny thing. They aren’t. They just deflect, agree, ignore, and change the subject. Suddenly, completely fucked-up health screening procedures aren’t that big of a deal. I almost can’t wait to see a reply to this from one of them. One could pull up countless posts and arguments from any of them that you can just toss in their face as to why they should be outraged and ripping you to shreds like they have so many others. They have absolutely zero credibility and whatever credibility you have left is quickly being sucked away by every post they make. I suppose if I were them, and my house was burning down; I would be looking for a bucket of water, but that bucket is empty Mike. I’m thinking the advertisers on this site are going to start running and fast. I don’t blame them. I would too. I don’t know where you can go from here but championing talent and talent issues as well as taking digs at the rest of the industry is not just out for you, it’s completely out.


rawalex:

First off Mike, there are things you learn in the porn world. In (damn) more than 15 years of the online world, one thing is constant: The race to the bottom. No matter how obviously bad that is, someone is always willing to go too far. No matter the risks, people will do unsafe things, and they will make bad business choices today that will hurt them tomorrow, as long as they get paid today.

Second, it’s also the sad nature to lump people into two groups, the “with us” or “against us”. When you are against them, the other side generally uses the most extreme case as the poster child and defacto leader of the idiots, and tags you with them.

Apparently, there is no greyscale in porn, just black and white. It’s why people can’t understand that some porn obscenity prosecutions are actually a good thing, they are free learning experiences for the rest of us.

So your problem will always be that when you take a position that is say 25% towards one side, the people at the other end shove your views to the extreme, and you end up lumped in with people you don’t like.

I blame Karl Rove for this, but it would take a while to explain why.


LurkingReader replied:

@rawalex

I’m scared now…this is like a gate in the fence were normally batting a ball of words over.

Love to hear the Karl Rove thing…totally intrigued.


Billy:

“because I know these guys and what they do” Really Mike? I’m sure that’s what the producer who shot Mr. Marcus in that now infamous Bang Bro scene thought.


MikeSouth replied:

tell ya what billy…try to get in my inner circle…see what you have to go through to participate in a shoot


erik2690:

Yeah, we’re going to agree to disagree. Just looked up the people you suggested. They are “porn ruins your marriage” article writes. I don’t find them reliable in the least. Sorry we don’t agree.

“exposure to sex tends to result in higher levels of compulsive behavior and lower impulse control”. These factual statements just flat out require sourcing for me to believe them.

Well, that commenter I guess deleted their comment so this makes little sense now.


jilted:

Short term memory. When the testing system was first put into place in 1999 it was all about the PERFORMERS. Producers wanted nothing to do with it, in fact, many fought the idea from the beginning.

It was performers who checked each others tests, and performers who decided what was acceptable, THen Darren James happened in 2004 and suddently it became PRODUCERS who were demanding tests. That is when it changed from performers looking out for eachother to producers covering their asses.

And now Mike gets shit for allowing PERFORMERS to decide what is right for them when working for him. IF youre a performer and you dont feel comfortable in any situation, be it Mike’s set or anywhere else then you simply walk out the door,

How the fuck does this girl blame MIKE, when SHE is the one who made the CHOICE(isnt this all about choice) to suck the dicks without seeing the tests.

If producers want a say in the testing, them let them PAY FOR IT.


BrookeTyler replied:

Are you some kind of retard? Your statement is so beyond moronic it’s almost hard to fathom you were able to type it. Apparently you come with your own shovel though because your just digging a bigger hole. If I was Mike I would ban your ass this second just so you don’t drag him down even faster. Furthermore, your anonymously posting so you don’t count. Just sit to the side and nod your head.
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#608491 - 03/28/14 09:17 AM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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Quote:
BrookeTyler:
I do have a question, where do you stand on using legitimate full panel testing for all porn shoots whether there is penetration or not?


MikeSouth replied:

My personal take is that periodic full panel testing is required I cant say i do it every 30 days because I sometimes dont shoot for more than 30 days but i prefer the tests to be recent which is why I generally shoot in bursts.
That said the overriding factor is what makes the girl comfy…for instance if you shot and you wanted everyone to have a full panel less than a week old AND a same day oraquick test (which i also do regardless) then thats fine…

Also remember my guys work ONLY for me, they arent in that porn talent pool being exposed every day every one of my guys has been doing this for a minimum of 3 years some much longer so that long history of negative tests also factors in (for me) because I know these guys and what they do. AVN said I dont use industry standard testing and that is true….and thats why i am not “up to my ass in Chlamydia and Gonorrhea” like porn valley is. if there is no penetration or even a solo scene with a dildo I don’t care if she is tested or not (i dont reuse toys except for glass dildos). If I shot a husband and wife in a boy girl scene together i dont care if they are tested or not, I think common sense kinda prevails



There ya go folks. Granted I'm an extrapolator, and between the lines reader, but to me that sounds like, "Don't nobody go spectin me to show a valid test for when I shot that broad." I would figure he doesn't have a test in the PASS system at all, much less a recent one. I don't think the dude could afford to be tested AND pay the $80 for a motel room to shoot in.
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#608492 - 03/28/14 09:51 AM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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Focusing on the mental laxative that porn testing is in the cult of whores won't really help.

Respectable job on Michael Whiteacre's end there, yet the guy looks like a representative of Anonymous and goes deep into the VIP section of some porn event where he meets some Showtime executive while chatting up whores - or so or allegedly.
He has one look when someone takes a picture of him and that look's a contrived smile.

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#608585 - 03/29/14 07:53 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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There seem to be acceptable levels of melodrama in the now over 100 comments to the denial piece by the retard for the retard and in the name of the retard forevermore.

Is Nick East involved? Does he tone it down?
Is anyone to be trusted?

It's on.


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#608611 - 03/30/14 12:46 AM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
Jerkules Offline
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Since South is scared to show an STD test, and he is obviously nuts, I hypothesize advanced syphilis.
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#608725 - 04/01/14 12:56 AM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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Since South obviously cant produce a recent clean test, he has a post up today talking about how pointless testing is.

He also claimed that a guy on his crew is an GA OSHA employee. I wonder if GA OSHA knows they have an employee moonlighting and approving the safety of porn sets?
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#609679 - 04/24/14 08:51 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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Coco Loco is getting sued for her Twitter ramblings and websites.

http://therealpornwikileaks.com/lawsuit-...ca-foster-suit/
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#609682 - 04/24/14 09:30 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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Just an FYI to the Plaintiff: probably not a great idea to have a flash graphic on your web page quoting the Marquis de Sade, when you're claiming you have been wronged.

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#609692 - 04/25/14 06:20 AM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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What site? In reference to what Jerkules posted, good.
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#609693 - 04/25/14 06:52 AM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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Wow, bad luck just follows Monica around like a black cloud.

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#609695 - 04/25/14 07:53 AM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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Looking at the comments from the Mike South thing from a while ago [The hickster getting the shaft.], these nuggets were among them.

Porn blogger Gram Ponante notices something, then Ernest Greene, partner of vintage whore Nina Hartley and "hands on, dick in" porn director himself, joins in:


Gram Ponante

"My belief about many finger-waggers is that they’re trying to waft their stink away. This is a sad story."


Ernest Greene

"Excellent reporting. Damning revelations. Should be enough to shake the cobwebs out of the skulls of those who continue to take this lying charlatan seriously. Alas, I fear there will always be those in the market for snake oil."


The market for mild hypocrisy won't mind.





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#609697 - 04/25/14 10:40 AM Re: The Pornarium [Re: Jerkules]
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Originally Posted By: Jerkules
Coco Loco is getting sued for her Twitter ramblings and websites.

http://therealpornwikileaks.com/lawsuit-...ca-foster-suit/


Should be a sight to see. What was Coco's hardon with these people?
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#609714 - 04/25/14 05:20 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: Jigaloo]
J.B.
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Originally Posted By: Jigaloo
What site?


The Plaintiffs'. At the top, five clicks in.

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#609866 - 04/29/14 09:25 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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Rob Black thinks via incorporating whores it's out of the condom thing for real.

He clearly incorporated something.




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Regulation Wars : Rob Black Explains How To Win Porn's Biggest Battles
Educate. Incorporate. No need to regulate. No way to legislate.

4/28/2014 21:58 PM PST

--Rob Black


I’m gonna give the people out there and the powers that be some free advice.

We keep hearing about the condom mandates. We keep hearing that porn performers are employees. Don’t we all keep hearing that? Porn performers are employees and as employees studios need to provide them with tests and they have to wear condoms because they’re in a workplace environment. They can’t be subject to workplace hazards as employees and employers have to follow certain mandates.

Now let me give you all a bit of advice. A word to the wise. For 149 dollars, this argument can be nipped in the bud. You can go to LegalZoom.com or AmeriLawyer.com. For 149 dollars every talent in this business, for less than the cost of a single STD panel test, can be incorporated. They can form a California corporation and guess what? They are no longer employees. They are now officially corporations. No studio would be liable to pay for their tests because they are no longer employees.

In one fell swoop you could shove your fist up Mike South’s ass, shove it up the city’s ass and cut their legs right out from under them. For less than the cost of an HIV test that everybody says the studios have to pay for, every single one of the working talent, not talking about Mike South’s ratchedy bitches who let untested hillbillies splooge on them, but actual working talent in California could form a corporation. I’m talking about the Tasha Reigns, the Remy LaCroixs, I’m talking about the Asa Akiras. That talent. For 149 dollars they get incorporated and you can take your testing mandates and wipe your asshole with them.

It’s so important for the talent in this business to get good advice. The biggest problem with Free Speech Coalition is that they could be helping the adult business, but they don’t. This is a thing that could help the business. You educate performers how to get incorporated because now you eliminate a whole army of bullshit and you make this business safe.

You really wanna have performer choice and leave it up to the individuals? Once everybody incorporates, it is their fucking choice. There are no employer/employee mandates. You really think the State of California gives a fuck? Fuck no. Because once you become a corporation, you also pay corporate taxes. You’re now going to be a legitimate entity, not some low rent hooker.

We change the game. That’s my biggest problem with FSC and the powers that be like Steve Hirsch. We push back against an authority like the State who can’t be defeated. What we have to do is be clever. We have to think outside this porn box.

It’s like when Vivid and New Sensations pays talent and when they make 800 dollars and with taxes taken out the check is for $680. Then they say can you pay my corporation? And Vivid says yes we can. Vivid pays the corporation and then the talent is responsible for paying their taxes. Then the talent is responsible for their HIV tests. They are also eligible to get health insurance under a corporate banner. They can have tax write offs for their car that they drive. They can write off all their meals at restaurants. They can even write off when they go to the movies. Why? They’re actors and watching movies is research. The clothes they buy? They’re acting in those clothes.

Porn performers need to get educated. The problem with the powers that be is that instead of educating the talent and working with them, they keep certain people down and elevate others so they can grab more and more money. Plus, there are people who are just too stupid to be in their positions. Diane Duke gets way too much credit, she’s simply not smart enough to come up with all of the dastardly deeds she’s accused of. Christian Mann has been at the helm of losing company after losing company. All of a sudden, everybody thinks he’s this wizard genius who comes up with all these schemes with Free Speech Coalition to funnel money from account A to account B. This is the guy who headed Video Team. Bankrupt. He headed Metro. Bankrupt. Everything Christian Mann has touched has turned to shit, but people like Mike South and Tim Tritch are gonna make you believe that Diane Duke and Christian Mann are geniuses.

These people are not geniuses. They were handed an organization that was formed by Russ Hampshire, Pinky Stolbach and Lenny Friedlander that has some really great parties and golf events. That was somehow morphed into this great political arm that has done nothing but cause damage to the industry. Not by anything diabolic, but by their own incompetence. Being incompetent shouldn’t get you hung on a cross and crucified.

What really needs to happen is that what everybody complains about, Free Speech Coalition, needs to be done. The PASS system if fine, it’s a database that people can choose to participate in or not. What we need is a centralized testing system and a centralized database that is run like the Gestapo. People would really be under the microscope when they work. But that’s never gonna happen because the business is unregulated. That’s just the way it is and it’s never gonna change.

Instead of sitting around and running your mouth on a message board, deal with the fact that you’re never gonna stop a girl from shooting a scene on a cell phone camera and somebody taking that scene and selling it. You’re never gonna stop it. It’s kinda like the war on drugs. We’ve been fighting a war on drugs forever and everybody knows that it doesn’t work. All it does is keep the prison industry well fed. You put money on the streets for more cops, money on the streets to build more prisons, more money to feed the beast that puts poor people in prison for selling drugs because there are no jobs that pay because Republicans want to keep everybody down.

It’s just like our industry. You’re never gonna clean up something that is as natural as it is unnatural. You’re dealing with sex, something that is given away freely. You have girls on Craigslist giving it away for tickets to the World Series. Giving it away for trips around the world. There doesn’t have to be money exchanged. If a sports celebrity wants to hang out with a porn chick and he flies her to a game, they go to dinner, he puts her up at a hotel and they fuck a couple times over the weekend, is that prostitution? Or is that just a ball player hanging out with a porn chick?

That’s why the war with regulation can never be won. Just like the drug war. The more you fight it, the more you just feed the beast. You feed the machine. You feed the people who profit from the battle. And ultimately, nobody wins.

The sex industry won’t be regulated and it never will be regulated. Nobody can tell whether a scene was shot in a bedroom on Vegas or a bedroom in Los Angeles. If I shoot a scene and somebody says did you have permits and did you use condoms? I say no I didn’t shoot it in LA. How can you tell the difference? The white walls?

You’re never gonna regulate something that is given away freely. I’ve never had somebody offer to give me a car for free. But I have had girls who offered sex for free. You can’t regulate something that is unregulatable. You can’t regulate a situation where they come to a scene being shot and they say, “You’re an employee and this is a studio and you’re making a movie…” And you go, “Whoa, wait a minute. Time out. We’re all fuck buddies and we’re filming this because I like to have my own home movies. I’m not selling it. Now if you wanna take me to court and prove that I’m selling it, be my guest. But there’s no money exchanged here. We’re just having fun.” Now what? Now what do you say?

You don’t have anything to say, because the people who are in charge never think of these things. The people in charge are trying to fight people and a system that you don’t need to fight. You just have to be smarter than them. People in government, especially in Los Angeles, aren’t that smart in the first place. It’s that simple.

So this employer/employee work debate is a problem that’s easy to solve with a 149 dollar corporation. Then the State and the advocacy groups can all take their regulations and shove them up their asses. Free Speech Coalition and that whole brain trust needs to wise the fuck up. Party time’s over.

Think of me as your tough love parent who’s been giving you tough love for a year. Now it’s time to grow some balls, get some brains and fight back. God knows, the people who have been attacking this business have been giving us enough openings for us to knock them the fuck out.
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#609872 - 04/29/14 10:17 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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Pro wrestlers are independent contractors. They generally set up LLCs so they can write off all expenses, pay a wife a salary, so she can collect Social Security in the future, etc, etc. You would figure any whore in the biddness for longer than a year or 2 does the same.

I await Willie's condescension and an anecdote from 2003.
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#609874 - 04/29/14 10:56 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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That's all going to come in its own time and at least one thread link with it.




From 00h:45m:03s onwards, the guy rambles about how he saved a whore, how porn PR works, how he's the best talker in porn and more.

The retarded mongoloid still uses "rather" where "whether" would have to be.
Every time. Eloquent genius.

Around 01h:19m:08s, the prologue to a notable fag performance is established:
The AIDS Healthcare Foundation is only after the money and doesn't really give a shit about its cause.
It goes on for a while.

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#610039 - 05/03/14 06:56 AM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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I would read that but I have a hunch it will make me want to regurgitate.
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#610044 - 05/03/14 08:49 AM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
Jerkules Offline
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#610057 - 05/03/14 12:00 PM Re: The Pornarium [Re: drained]
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She finally follows through on her legal threats and proceeds to fuck herself up instead. Diamonds, Jerry. Diamonds.
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