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#577322 - 12/16/12 10:40 AM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
Mr. Meat Offline
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The thing that kills me the most is they were all 6 and 7 years old.

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#577330 - 12/16/12 11:38 AM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: backdoorman]
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Originally Posted By: backdoorman
Alex should check out the Westboro baptist church facilities while he's off.


It's bad enough I have to live in the same town as these assholes. What have I done to deserve standing behind Panzer in a line at the grocery store while he is arguing over the expiration date of a coupon he cut out of a newspaper in 1996?
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#577332 - 12/16/12 11:45 AM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: backdoorman]
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Originally Posted By: backdoorman
Why the fuck is this shit happening right after the liar in chief [emperor] called for an assault gun ban ? Conspiracy theorists please have at it !


Did anybody see any real tears from the President during his address to the nation? I know this sounds cynical, but his eyes looked dry to me.
Did he cry over the slain border patrol agent that got killed when his flunky Holder let hundreds of assault weapons walk into the hands of drug cartels? Not likely. Get ready for the draconian new gun laws about to be proposed.
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#577334 - 12/16/12 11:47 AM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: the unknown pervert]
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Originally Posted By: the unknown pervert
Originally Posted By: backdoorman
Alex should check out the Westboro baptist church facilities while he's off.


It's bad enough I have to live in the same town as these assholes. What have I done to deserve standing behind Panzer in a line at the grocery store while he is arguing over the expiration date of a coupon he cut out of a newspaper in 1996?


I woulda done moved.
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#577338 - 12/16/12 12:07 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: fartz]
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Originally Posted By: fartz
Not to derail, or sound like a twat, but can't we just stop talking about gun control and mental illness, and fucking politics and presidents and just, you know, be sad. I don't really give a fuck about the outlying issues. This made me sad. Very sad.


I know why you're sad, and it's the same reason I am. It hits us very close to home. I think about how easy it is to walk into my kid's school. If I had bad intentions, that gal in the office certainly wouldn't stop me. It was long time from turning on the news at 10am Friday and picking my kid up at 3pm. And that was all I could think of. How easy it would be for someone with bad intentions to walk in that front door and do whatever the fuck they want.
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#577340 - 12/16/12 01:39 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: fartz]
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Originally Posted By: fartz
Not to derail, or sound like a twat, but can't we just stop talking about gun control and mental illness, and fucking politics and presidents and just, you know, be sad. I don't really give a fuck about the outlying issues. This made me sad. Very sad.


A single normal voice. I was glad to see this post.

I had originally started to post about how fucked up you guys were who can find out a school full of small children are murdered and your only thought is about your love for guns (aside from the obviously emasculated racists who bring in President Obama no matter what the subject is). What a bunch of abnormal weirdos.

Then I realized that I guess you really can't blame a feeble minded child for embarrassing you by doing the same thing in public that you laugh at them for doing behind closed doors. It is these same brain damaged sociopaths that can be entertaining under other circumstances just being themselves.
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#577343 - 12/16/12 02:32 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: E.Y.Davis]
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Originally Posted By: E.Y.Davis

A single normal voice. I was glad to see this post.

I had originally started to post about how fucked up you guys were who can find out a school full of small children are murdered and your only thought is about your love for guns (aside from the obviously emasculated racists who bring in President Obama no matter what the subject is). What a bunch of abnormal weirdos.


What can you expect this is an abnormal place. I'm not defending the kind of repulsive cold hearted statements made by idiots like tranzer, but if you think it's bad here, check out the comments on the yahoo news articles from allegedly normal people. You should be equally disgusted if not more by politicians, media pundits & celebrities using it as a political opportunity before people have had a chance to grieve. Not many people are making any sense anywhere in regards to this senseless tragedy. Wtf is normal in this fucked up world anyway?
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#577349 - 12/16/12 03:59 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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^^ He really is right about the comments in mainstream stuff. For all the wallowing in our filth that we do here, we have nothing on 'normal" people.

@EY Are you as hard on the people who find out about a room full of murdered children and the first thing they think about is how to use it to further their beloved anti- gun agenda? Speaking just for me, my guns were far from the first thing I thought of. As I said earlier, the first thing was the hope that I'd stumbled on a show recalling Virginia Tech or Columbine. I didn't start thinking of gun control until some pol started talking about it. It's still pretty far from the top of my thinking.

I started this thread because on Friday I was home by myself. I was honestly feeling very...alone, I guess. I was posting what I was seeing. I mentioned Obama because his initial statement was the most emotionally honest thing I'd seen from a politician in a long time, if ever. I called it as I'd seen it in the moment. I made a legitimate reaction. If you need that to be emasculated racism, that's on you, friend.
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#577351 - 12/16/12 04:30 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: E.Y.Davis]
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Originally Posted By: E.Y.Davis

What a bunch of abnormal weirdos.


qotd...

although I disagree with the thought process. unfortunately school shootings and bad news of that type are almost commonplace now and most people are actually self aware enough to absorb that info and then go big picture with it. the days of Walter Cronkite feeding you the news and your opinion are over. I'm not saying that's a good thing...especially when you consider how poor the initial coverage of this incident was. it's just that everyone wants to be John Stewart now.
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#577354 - 12/16/12 05:37 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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NBC interrupted the fucking game to hear Obama talk. If I wanna see that shit, I'll turn on CNN. Mother Fuckers should have just postponed the game.

Edit: Not meaning cancel, just push back the start time.


Edited by Jerkules (12/16/12 05:38 PM)
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#577360 - 12/16/12 06:14 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: LouCypher]
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Originally Posted By: LouCypher
it's just that everyone wants to be John Stewart now.


When we all know Craig Kilborne (jondra ?) was the superior host. #1, 2, 3...Go! (I've never "hashtagged" anything...did I do it right?)
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#577363 - 12/16/12 06:21 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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EY gonna hate. That's his schtick.

Doesn't matter what anyone says, he's gonna hate.

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#577369 - 12/16/12 06:49 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Jerkules]
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Originally Posted By: Jerkules
NBC interrupted the fucking game to hear Obama talk. If I wanna see that shit, I'll turn on CNN. Mother Fuckers should have just postponed the game.

Edit: Not meaning cancel, just push back the start time.



Don't worry: This game's such a soupy clusterfuck even the shennanigans in the first quarter won't be missed.

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#577370 - 12/16/12 06:56 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: E.Y.Davis]
J.B.
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Originally Posted By: E.Y.Davis
I had originally started to post about how fucked up you guys were who can find out a school full of small children are murdered and your only thought is about your love for guns (aside from the obviously emasculated racists who bring in President Obama no matter what the subject is). What a bunch of abnormal weirdos.

Then I realized that I guess you really can't blame a feeble minded child for embarrassing you by doing the same thing in public that you laugh at them for doing behind closed doors. It is these same brain damaged sociopaths that can be entertaining under other circumstances just being themselves.



Originally Posted By: Bornyo
I had an anal trainer joke to make but it's beyond the pale, even for me, even for xpt.



Originally Posted By: jamesn



Originally Posted By: Bornyo
Well shiver me timbers....you did it...

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#577372 - 12/16/12 07:00 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
Bornyo Offline
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My God! There is no humor in this situation so the only solution is to find humor elsewhere. It's really the only way to cope.

Thanks for that J.B.

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#577373 - 12/16/12 07:12 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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I'm looking at a Tactical Remington 870-12 w/ Vang Comp System. This world is getting way to fucking crazy.

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#577376 - 12/16/12 07:27 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: J.B.
Don't worry: This game's such a soupy clusterfuck even the shennanigans in the first quarter won't be missed.


I don't care about the outcome of the game or quality of play. I am now tied at 118 for my fantasy match up. 2 botched bomb TD attempts to Vern Davis got me near tears. A win today is the difference between $125 and $275 downside, $600 to win it all.
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#577379 - 12/16/12 07:33 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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#577380 - 12/16/12 07:37 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Mr. Meat]
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Originally Posted By: The Meat
I'm looking at a Tactical Remington 870-12 w/ Vang Comp System. This world is getting way to fucking crazy.


I didn't want to think you were so stupid. But you are.

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#577382 - 12/16/12 07:42 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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Sanctimonious ultra hypocritical vomitus masses of substrate the lot of you. I can't imagine how heart broken you must be over Darfur genocide or something of the like, it must practically paralyze you like a physical attack. Oh wait it doesn't because you are all completely full of shit and don't give a fuck about anything but your selves. At least panzer is halfway honest. You all deserve to be stuffed into fucking gas chambers.


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#577383 - 12/16/12 07:47 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
Bornyo Offline
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Well... all of us except you. Because you are superior.

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#577388 - 12/16/12 08:37 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: LouCypher]
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Originally Posted By: LouCypher
the days of Walter Cronkite feeding you the news and your opinion are over.


True that. This is one of my pet peeves, the 24hr news cycle and the complete lack of context or journalism in today's media. We watch live news feeds with announcers stammering and saying things like: "Well, we don't know anything at the moment" and just guessing at theories. Then we switch over to some pundits or paid experts to further hypothesise about what may or may not have just transpired and lead us down some rabbit holes to further along their agenda. It's bullshit and misinformation and in no way Journalism. Being witness to an event is not journalism.

Add to that the celebrity awarded these fucktard murderers for their actions and you have a motive. Why do we plaster the media with backstory on the shooters and pictures? Do we really want to know what they were like as children? Fucking leave that for the shrinks and judges and take it out of the instant news stories. Wanna do bio's, do the victims'.
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#577395 - 12/16/12 09:35 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Bornyo]
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Originally Posted By: Bornyo
Originally Posted By: The Meat
I'm looking at a Tactical Remington 870-12 w/ Vang Comp System. This world is getting way to fucking crazy.


I didn't want to think you were so stupid. But you are.


Fuck you. I wanted one anyway. I was looking at a Franchi SPAS 12 but the 870 tactical is better.

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#577396 - 12/16/12 09:43 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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Spot on about the 24 hour news cycle. It's our own fault. If we stopped watching, they'd stop broadcasting. But we don't.

Again, we're the ones who make rock stars out of them. If we didn't want it, they wouldn't show it. It's numbers driven, as sad as that is to say.

Bread and circuses.
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#577397 - 12/16/12 10:02 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
Mr. Meat Offline
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I don't watch fucking TV at all. It's me and my computer. Go ahead. Don't watch TV for abt two years and you'll see how absurd it is. It's total pablum.

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#577402 - 12/16/12 10:15 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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And the Internet isn't?
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#577426 - 12/17/12 10:03 AM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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All big hearted people love tv!
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#577433 - 12/17/12 10:53 AM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Mr. Meat]
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Originally Posted By: The Meat
I don't watch fucking TV at all. It's me and my computer. Go ahead. Don't watch TV for abt two years and you'll see how absurd it is. It's total pablum.




Imbecile...! crazy
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#577450 - 12/17/12 03:05 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Richard Hungwell]
Mr. Meat Offline
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Originally Posted By: Richard Hungwell
Originally Posted By: The Meat
I don't watch fucking TV at all. It's me and my computer. Go ahead. Don't watch TV for abt two years and you'll see how absurd it is. It's total pablum.




Imbecile...! crazy


You know what faggot-fuckcakes... You're something I excrete out of my ass known as shit. So shut the fuck up and kill yourself by sucking tailpipe.

And while you're at enjoy those 'Jersey Shore' re-runs, bitch.

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#577473 - 12/17/12 06:22 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Jerkules]
the unknown pervert Offline
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Originally Posted By: Jerkules
NBC interrupted the fucking game to hear Obama talk. If I wanna see that shit, I'll turn on CNN. Mother Fuckers should have just postponed the game.

Edit: Not meaning cancel, just push back the start time.


If they had waited until that video review of whether or not the punt touched Ginn they could have broadcast Obama's speech and not missed a play.
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#577477 - 12/17/12 06:42 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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Originally Posted By: the unknown pervert
Originally Posted By: Jerkules
NBC interrupted the fucking game to hear Obama talk. If I wanna see that shit, I'll turn on CNN. Mother Fuckers should have just postponed the game.

Edit: Not meaning cancel, just push back the start time.


If they had waited until that video review of whether or not the punt touched Ginn they could have broadcast Obama's speech and not missed a play.



that was insanely long. I had shit to do today and blame that unnecessary process on my hangover.
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#577507 - 12/17/12 11:22 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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"faggot fuckcakes" The hate is strong in this Meat youngling.
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#577513 - 12/18/12 07:49 AM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
Jerkules Offline
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From the looks of that hidden ear pic and the fact that I heard the kook was a vegan, I'm going to guess he was a Manorexic. Dudes that become Manorexic are usually horribly broken, far beyond a woman with such issues.
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#577533 - 12/18/12 01:52 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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Found on http://www.lukeisback.com/2012/12/a-mothers-lives-in-fear-of-her-beloved-mentally-ill-child/:

by Liza Long from http://thebluereview.org/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother/

12.15.2012

Friday’s horrific national tragedy—the murder of 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in New Town, Connecticut—has ignited a new discussion on violence in America. In kitchens and coffee shops across the country, we tearfully debate the many faces of violence in America: gun culture, media violence, lack of mental health services, overt and covert wars abroad, religion, politics and the way we raise our children. Liza Long, a writer based in Boise, says it’s easy to talk about guns. But it’s time to talk about mental illness.
Three days before 20 year-old Adam Lanza killed his mother, then opened fire on a classroom full of Connecticut kindergartners, my 13-year old son Michael (name changed) missed his bus because he was wearing the wrong color pants.
“I can wear these pants,” he said, his tone increasingly belligerent, the black-hole pupils of his eyes swallowing the blue irises.
“They are navy blue,” I told him. “Your school’s dress code says black or khaki pants only.”
“They told me I could wear these,” he insisted. “You’re a stupid bitch. I can wear whatever pants I want to. This is America. I have rights!”
“You can’t wear whatever pants you want to,” I said, my tone affable, reasonable. “And you definitely cannot call me a stupid bitch. You’re grounded from electronics for the rest of the day. Now get in the car, and I will take you to school.”
I live with a son who is mentally ill. I love my son. But he terrifies me.
A few weeks ago, Michael pulled a knife and threatened to kill me and then himself after I asked him to return his overdue library books. His 7 and 9 year old siblings knew the safety plan—they ran to the car and locked the doors before I even asked them to. I managed to get the knife from Michael, then methodically collected all the sharp objects in the house into a single Tupperware container that now travels with me. Through it all, he continued to scream insults at me and threaten to kill or hurt me.
That conflict ended with three burly police officers and a paramedic wrestling my son onto a gurney for an expensive ambulance ride to the local emergency room. The mental hospital didn’t have any beds that day, and Michael calmed down nicely in the ER, so they sent us home with a prescription for Zyprexa and a follow-up visit with a local pediatric psychiatrist.
We still don’t know what’s wrong with Michael. Autism spectrum, ADHD, Oppositional Defiant or Intermittent Explosive Disorder have all been tossed around at various meetings with probation officers and social workers and counselors and teachers and school administrators. He’s been on a slew of antipsychotic and mood altering pharmaceuticals, a Russian novel of behavioral plans. Nothing seems to work.
At the start of seventh grade, Michael was accepted to an accelerated program for highly gifted math and science students. His IQ is off the charts. When he’s in a good mood, he will gladly bend your ear on subjects ranging from Greek mythology to the differences between Einsteinian and Newtonian physics to Doctor Who. He’s in a good mood most of the time. But when he’s not, watch out. And it’s impossible to predict what will set him off.
Several weeks into his new junior high school, Michael began exhibiting increasingly odd and threatening behaviors at school. We decided to transfer him to the district’s most restrictive behavioral program, a contained school environment where children who can’t function in normal classrooms can access their right to free public babysitting from 7:30-1:50 Monday through Friday until they turn 18.
The morning of the pants incident, Michael continued to argue with me on the drive. He would occasionally apologize and seem remorseful. Right before we turned into his school parking lot, he said, “Look, Mom, I’m really sorry. Can I have video games back today?”
“No way,” I told him. “You cannot act the way you acted this morning and think you can get your electronic privileges back that quickly.”
His face turned cold, and his eyes were full of calculated rage. “Then I’m going to kill myself,” he said. “I’m going to jump out of this car right now and kill myself.”
That was it. After the knife incident, I told him that if he ever said those words again, I would take him straight to the mental hospital, no ifs, ands, or buts. I did not respond, except to pull the car into the opposite lane, turning left instead of right.
“Where are you taking me?” he said, suddenly worried. “Where are we going?”
“You know where we are going,” I replied.
“No! You can’t do that to me! You’re sending me to hell! You’re sending me straight to hell!”
I pulled up in front of the hospital, frantically waiving for one of the clinicians who happened to be standing outside. “Call the police,” I said. “Hurry.”
Michael was in a full-blown fit by then, screaming and hitting. I hugged him close so he couldn’t escape from the car. He bit me several times and repeatedly jabbed his elbows into my rib cage. I’m still stronger than he is, but I won’t be for much longer.
The police came quickly and carried my son screaming and kicking into the bowels of the hospital. I started to shake, and tears filled my eyes as I filled out the paperwork—“Were there any difficulties with… at what age did your child… were there any problems with.. has your child ever experienced.. does your child have…”
At least we have health insurance now. I recently accepted a position with a local college, giving up my freelance career because when you have a kid like this, you need benefits. You’ll do anything for benefits. No individual insurance plan will cover this kind of thing.
For days, my son insisted that I was lying—that I made the whole thing up so that I could get rid of him. The first day, when I called to check up on him, he said, “I hate you. And I’m going to get my revenge as soon as I get out of here.”
By day three, he was my calm, sweet boy again, all apologies and promises to get better. I’ve heard those promises for years. I don’t believe them anymore.
On the intake form, under the question, “What are your expectations for treatment?” I wrote, “I need help.”
And I do. This problem is too big for me to handle on my own. Sometimes there are no good options. So you just pray for grace and trust that in hindsight, it will all make sense.
I am sharing this story because I am Adam Lanza’s mother. I am Dylan Klebold’s and Eric Harris’s mother. I am James Holmes’s mother. I am Jared Loughner’s mother. I am Seung-Hui Cho’s mother. And these boys—and their mothers—need help. In the wake of another horrific national tragedy, it’s easy to talk about guns. But it’s time to talk about mental illness.
According to Mother Jones, since 1982, 61 mass murders involving firearms have occurred throughout the country. Of these, 43 of the killers were white males, and only one was a woman. Mother Jones focused on whether the killers obtained their guns legally (most did). But this highly visible sign of mental illness should lead us to consider how many people in the U.S. live in fear, like I do.
When I asked my son’s social worker about my options, he said that the only thing I could do was to get Michael charged with a crime. “If he’s back in the system, they’ll create a paper trail,” he said. “That’s the only way you’re ever going to get anything done. No one will pay attention to you unless you’ve got charges.”
I don’t believe my son belongs in jail. The chaotic environment exacerbates Michael’s sensitivity to sensory stimuli and doesn’t deal with the underlying pathology. But it seems like the United States is using prison as the solution of choice for mentally ill people. According to Human Rights Watch, the number of mentally ill inmates in U.S. prisons quadrupled from 2000 to 2006, and it continues to rise—in fact, the rate of inmate mental illness is five times greater (56 percent) than in the non-incarcerated population.
With state-run treatment centers and hospitals shuttered, prison is now the last resort for the mentally ill—Rikers Island, the LA County Jail and Cook County Jail in Illinois housed the nation’s largest treatment centers in 2011.
No one wants to send a 13-year old genius who loves Harry Potter and his snuggle animal collection to jail. But our society, with its stigma on mental illness and its broken healthcare system, does not provide us with other options. Then another tortured soul shoots up a fast food restaurant. A mall. A kindergarten classroom. And we wring our hands and say, “Something must be done.”
I agree that something must be done. It’s time for a meaningful, nation-wide conversation about mental health. That’s the only way our nation can ever truly heal.
God help me. God help Michael. God help us all.
(Originally published at The Anarchist Soccer Mom.)
liza long is an author, musician, and erstwhile classicist. she is also a single mother of four bright, loved children, one of whom has special needs
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#577535 - 12/18/12 02:27 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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I saw this on a friend's FB page. Pretty horrific stuff.
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#577537 - 12/18/12 02:33 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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Perils of single motherhood. If I had ever treated my mother that way I would have been sure to leave home before my father returned from work.

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#577548 - 12/18/12 06:11 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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well said ivor. tard or not you don't get lippy like that or have sustained emo meltdowns with the old man looming.
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#577549 - 12/18/12 06:37 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: LouCypher]
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Originally Posted By: LouCypher
back on topic... the spin is just starting to get heavy.

id go with the armed guards one.people would act alot differently knowing they could get popped for trying some shit.
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#577550 - 12/18/12 06:42 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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Originally Posted By: Barry the Pirate
Originally Posted By: LouCypher
it's just that everyone wants to be John Stewart now.


When we all know Craig Kilborne (jondra ?) was the superior host. #1, 2, 3...Go! (I've never "hashtagged" anything...did I do it right?)
i had to stop watching the daily show when kilborne left.jon stewart sucks my asshole.good thing craig kilborne had his own talk show for awhile on cbs.it was basically like an hour long daily show.although that new show he had on fox that lasted all of a couple weeks was garbage.the writers on that show should be paid to have sex with farm animals.
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#577552 - 12/18/12 06:58 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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I used to watch The Daily Show once in awhile. When Stewart took over I stopped watching. Kilborn took over The Late Late Show from Tom Snyder. The 6 week Fox show was a test run, both to see how the ratings were and if other markets were interested in picking it up.

I don't watch often but like Craig Ferguson on The Late Late Show now.
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#577553 - 12/18/12 06:59 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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wait hes back on the late late show?
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#577556 - 12/18/12 07:03 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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No, after Kilborn left the Daily Show and John Jewart took over, Kilborn took over the Late Late Show. He's been gone from that for something like 6-7 years now.
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#577559 - 12/18/12 07:10 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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#577565 - 12/18/12 07:55 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: frankie fatale]
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Originally Posted By: frankie figgs
id go with the armed guards one.people would act alot differently knowing they could get popped for trying some shit.



Nah, they wouldn't. Sick fucks like this know they're not coming out alive. Hell, some of 'em will think they're going out badass taking the armed guards with 'em.

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#577572 - 12/18/12 11:40 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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#577574 - 12/19/12 03:27 AM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Mr. Meat]
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Originally Posted By: Mr. Meat
I don't watch fucking TV at all. It's me and my computer. Go ahead. Don't watch TV for abt two years and you'll see how absurd it is. It's total pablum.


Try reading a newspaper or a book even once in a while. I know hav2cit thinks reading is for fags and all but you might learn something once in a while, instead of the paranoid conspiracy bullshit that is the internet's stock and trade.


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#577578 - 12/19/12 05:27 AM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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I don't watch much TV either Clod. My Kindle is burning them up here lately, but since they aren't the type of books you'd think worth reading, you probably don't actually consider it reading. Much like you leftists don't believe a black person who votes Republican is actually a black person. Fucking socialists and their fucked up identity politics.

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#577581 - 12/19/12 06:23 AM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: CxGxPx]
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Hey, Ceramic Dogshit Product? While you're getting all John Madden about things, how about a nod to our founder on the lower left?


Originally Posted By: FAT BLOODY FINGERS


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#577582 - 12/19/12 06:55 AM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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I read that the shooter's father way his ex $250,000 per year in alimony. Papa Lanza must be earning a cool million per year to get saddled with THAT ball and chain. Can you spell bourgeoisie? Has it been verified that the shooter visited the premises the day before the shooting?

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#577624 - 12/19/12 02:18 PM Re: Connecticut Shootings [Re: Barry the Pirate]
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@fbf Is the pic from 4chan Klebold/ Harris or some shopped thing?

@ivor Absolutely true on the dad thing. I can't even imagine pulling shit while my dad was around. The problem is that we're talking about a rage that overwhelms any fear you have of anything. Put a different way, I can't imagine pulling a knife on my mom...or anyone...short of a threat to me and mine. I wouldn't do it because it's not in me.

Remember after 9/11 there was talk about letting airline pilots carry? The main thing against it was "what if the pilot freaks out and rampages?". Because it would be easier for a pilot to shoot up the passengers than to corkscrew the plane into the ground. There isn't a chance in hell that the NEA will allow armed civilian guards in schools. What if the guard freaks?

All due respect to EY, but the debate has started. What I'm hearing is a lot of "do something...anything". We get into that cycle too often in this country. We want to feel better, no matter whether the "solution" works or not.

I guess we're lucky that we have good hearted folks in DC that want to solve the problem, no matter their political agenda.

@ivor It's killing me: What does bourgeoisie have to do with it?
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