This is the place for invectives about the mod you all love to hate and whining about unpopular board policy. Too many butt hurt posts are cluttering up threads meant for other purposes the reason this was created is to help keep them clean. Feel free to spew any new hate, that might occur to you, just try to keep the tard levels to a minimum. I do understand that will be a tough slog for most of you though.

Fucking attention whore.

@cq: Looks great to me. Would love to have it. Thanx, man.

I was telling cq in pm that my dad "quit smoking" and went to a pipe. Kind of how I quit smoking and went to cigars. When he retired he quit smoking the pipe too...altho anytime you wanted some sugar there was always a couple of bags of "fun sized" Snickers under the seat of his Buick. Somewhere along the line I started picking up pipes and accessories from estate sales and eBay. Some I'd keep, some I'd restore and resell. I seldom smoke any of them, but I really do enjoy sitting in the back yard with one. It's relaxing and gives me a minor connection to my dad.

@tatty: I started again because of anxiety. I'd been probably 8ish years weed free. Weed's no cure, but it gets me over the hump sometimes.

Aw, the King needs attention.

It's all been covered, so I'm not sure why you think you need to do this. Actually I am pretty sure why.

It's funny that I'm a pussy and a drama queen, but you're the one who needed a thread specifically about you. Absolutely pathetic.

Didn't anyone ever tell you pirates aren't suppose to cry?

Barry, he hasn't had Brandon around to play with so he seeks another foil.

haha?? What's amusing about paranoia and an anxiety disorder?

It's nice to conversate with a pornstar, isn't it folks?

We want Matlock!

^^^hahahahahaha. nice to have you back, j f....

So you would want this site to be like ADT where the performers were protected? Would you ban yourself for butt fukkin Brandon all over the site?

We should not be allowed to say Pam Peaks is a plastic surgery disaster?

Tanner Mayes, a drugged/drunk mess?

Coco Loco, crazy as the day is long?

Mr Pete, a wiggur douche?

Carmella Bing a fat pig?

Nah, you aren't serious, just doin some low rent trolling, eh?

If the mods were caring then yes the whole board would be chick friendly and the people who couldn't deal with it would be perma-banned. Caring mods = ADT. Now aren't you glad I don't give a fuck whether you live or die?

Chick-friendly or whore-friendly?

Have2, there is a difference between caring mods and mods that care. I don't believe what they say about you, so I think you are just attempting to further the argument. I'll roll with you on that, but you shouldn't have been crabbing about it any way. It is Bornyo's forum, he is the one to be coaching the noobs that post in there.

He should also be out there on Twitter trying to recruit whores to post there, instead of attempting to wave a magic wand and think he gonna create Bizzaro World. Dude prolly aint used to leading people that aren't getting paid to listen to him.

W/ BDM's social networking prowess and history of counseling, should give him the other Talent mod spot and have him recruiting Twitter whores to post here. At the very least, he's more personable than B.

Apologies. I have recently been informed that Carmella isn't a fat pig anymore.

she was still strokeable when she was chunky but im sure its better for her fans and career that she lost the weight.

Carmella looks way hotter now. Congrats to her for working hard to getting her body back.

Carmella Bing > Carmella Binge

^^^Hmmm... you sure those are current? Super-big bitches don't usually bounce back after losing weight and wind up with loose skin flaps all over the place.

I'm on twitter all the time trying to get chicks to post here. It's futile. They don't give a shit and are perfectly happy on twitter and too lazy to add another communication outlet.

Carmella Bing is still a disaster.

Not just that, and I appreciate Jerkules' jab at me, but take a look at Speigler. He ain't all that and he's hustling the best whores in the valey but he doesn't bother trying to get them over here. Wonder why?

not all,some post on gaydt.tell them the evils of that site and the fun of this one.but yeah im sure most of them could give a shit.

yup... picture the dynamics of a bounce.

^^^Part of that is because more directors/producers go on adt. A girl can get noticed and get more work.

If I had to guess, if a girl would hang around and post here...She'd stand a MUCH greater chance of having her wishlist fulfilled or if she did privates, being hired here, than at ADT even though they have scores, maybe thousands more posters and certainly more fanbois.

With Ben gone I don't know of a single fanboi here currently but to read everyone post, there is some disposable income.

So, I think there are benefits for the women/whores as well as our posters, but not if you meet them at the front door with s sledgehammer.

Well, if this is supposed to be the place to ask questions about board policy and to trash have2cit, I still want to know if the board policy goal is to make this a more welcoming place for chicks or for whores. Chicks should go at it if they want and care to, but dish and get dished, I guess, whereas whores could just play hardcore Twitter. What is it?

And regarding Carmella Bing: I do not follow you, Lou. She was said to have been a washed out whore in London or whereever before she got washed out here. Her bloated mess complimented the disastrous tit job well. That she could now save more for her multi-purpose retirement fund by collecting potentially more tricks is of no concern to me.

It's both PD. But Talent for Hire is not the place to bash them for it, whichever they do.

pd don't make pretend you weren't around for the gigi era. wtf?.

you guys have a "simple" contest going on or what?.

Yaaar, me peg leg it gives me a blisterrrrrr :-(

naww...thats what the eyepatch is for. it's an ocular dam.

If a whore did privates, and PM'ed XPT discount coupons, I imagine she'd be lauded, even if she never toured in the corners of the country we are all located in. Thought that counts and all.

That is not what I meant, Lou. Maybe it is. What I actually meant was that if any chick, a regular poster not knowingly taking dick for money, wants to post here, no one is stopping her in my eyes, provided that her online chi is strong and she can deal with the stuff coming her way in XPT-accepted style. Regularly posting chicks do not need a helping hand, I guess. The whore thing is a bit different, more laden with shit and why this thread seems to be here.

yup, fair enough...

Shirkules...you aren't a Dem or a Repub or a Libertarian or a Commie. You are just a Contrarian. Like a 60's/70's teenager raging against the machine.

That ain't trolling, that's just stirring the pot. Well buddy, my gravy has thickened and needs no further stirring. I know you understand. So I'm done with your game. Find another windmill on which to take a tilt.

I got no problem with that statement either, except there's only about, oh, 2 chicks presently with that kind of chi here. And Gia didn't have it when she got here and wouldn't have stuck around if she didn't have a small umbrella over her head until she realized she wouldn't melt. Granted it was a small umbrella and she wasn't under it long but the intent is to provide it as needed, in one forum. That ain't pussy. That ain't fanboi. That's just smart.

I'd ask Puma Swede but I can already hear the tranny jokes.

^^^Not in TFH. Not anymore.

The privates discount remark was serious. I've seen it work well on hooker boards I've lurked in the past. Knock $50 off the hourly, or give a good deal on 1.5hrs.

Moderate Republican, if you must know. Hate the bible thumpers, hate the tree huggers. I do have a little respect for the old school political machine and union Dems.

Dude, you are 100% contrarian. You just offended everyone without taking a side at all.

i've seen some of jerkys work and he speaks no shit in this case. without saying too much he does werk with teh whores.

the troll job over the last few days...maybe not.. but that's not all him.

I've seen quite a bit of his work lately. I know he isn't lying.

it's not that i didn't have fun with some of you tonight and more so... it's not that i don't care about all of you.(those that are with us and those that aren't that is.) but if you could...and again it's because i care...i really fucken do... just drop me a pm when you get it together and let me know what to apologize for. it's never personal. thanks.

- the management

Perhaps a good point, but you need to consider the following:


1. This place went on a strong "whores don't get away with it
" policy for a long time. Way before you were here. Padova, Hillary, Cindy Crawford, plenty of them survived in the XPT, until some of the fags started shoo-shooing them out of this place, one by one you douches reduced this place to a sausage fest, complaining about porno whores day and night to the point where they never bother to come around here again.


2. If you have any doubts about this, take a look at the times XPT is quoted in other porn blogs. Loftus...nothing. Ross...nothing. Poonante...nothing. There is nothing notable about this palce because no one wants to post anything that is noteworthy.


Perhaps, if you turned this back into a discussion forum, rather than a shitty picpost, the board might resurrect itself.

Are you willing to put in the effort, or not?

Point of order, sir. That is a have2cit quote, from the Raven Bay thread. I quoted it and brought it here to avoid cluttering that thread further.

That said:

I had a longer post typed out, but fuck it. It aint worth it. Dude is just butthurt that his piss and moan gimmick has been co-opted by too many people.

I gotta say this though:

Add 28K to the number of views the Hottest Pic thread has gotten, since October (its about 40k, or 4500/month). Figgs' Hottest gif been doing 415 page view a week the 8 weeks its been up?

How many eyeballs have you brought to the table kid? What effort have you been putting in?

Also, don't pretend that you don't whore bash.

What is a valey?

He parks cars in illiterate malls.

Are there any directors or content producers still on here?

Besides Brandon? No.

When I started to post here, which was long before my registration date would suggest, this place was a more amicable place for porners to post. Yes it was always rough and tumble, but it was a lot less hateful.

I don't know if the pictures hurt as far as facilitating a more discussion oriented board, but to have porners discussing porn, we need porners that actually post here.

Will changing the policy back to the Kami era policy in TFH do that? I don't know. We sure had a lot of activity last night so maybe we just need to kick over a hornets nest every once in a while.

I think you know the intent. A "valey" is a "valley" as typed on a keyboard by fat bloody fingers.

I thought he meant times were so bad whores were working as valets now !

I told you so.

Right. The importance of XPT is now predicated on a thread about pics taken from other websites. I liked it better the first time, when it was called Freeones.

I put in plenty of posts, if you'd like a list of some of my stuff, let me know. But you made my point: most posters have now resorted to adding to some really dead issues, Danny Dearmond, ad nauseam. No one is writing anything worth reading. No snarky porn event review threads, it's all just very mediocre.

Oh, I did plenty of that, and enjoyed it. Except I rarely did it unless it was called for. Like when Katja showed up here, loudly declaring she would never be a hooker (good move on her part) only to find out she was turning tricks the whole time (worth of enormous bashing). Or Sierra Sinn, who was actually funny most of the time (cool), only to hear she once intentionally took a shit on Flower Tucci in retaliation for Flower doing it to her (just...WTF?)

I put in plenty of time here, as my post count suggests There were always tards and trolls in here: Cow, Mike Meatmaster, PenisPumpCharley, DrPornz. But there were also people putting in a decent effort. I just don't see that effort any more. I could be completely wrong, it's just my casual observation.

And for the record, h2c was around here since 2004 or so. Burg once made some ridiculously long post, likely about splooge and Holly Randall, which crashed the server. h2c tried to post after it and it killed his account. Malice got most of his posts back, but could never fix the reg date. So blame it on Burg.

Shit, the things I remember in here.

The 3 new mods are doing OK, I was concerned about having mean spirited right wing bigots as mods, but they seem to take out the garbage OK. Not much to the job, really.

I don't think h2c or Bornyo are power tripping or trying to turn things into ADT with the attempt to return TFH to a place where whores can post without getting chewed up. I do find it strange that 3 people seemed to blow a gasket over it.

HOLY FUCK. I'm going to reply to this in a calm tone, so it doesn't resemble my asshole rants. I only want to be an asshole here, if I am wrong. You be the judge.



Ha ha ha. So XPT's importance is not based on the traffic it gets. Instead, according to your previous post, the importance of this site is based on if a pathetic, ALLEGED alcoholic, tarot card reader quotes it?? Gotcha. We won't go into the credibility of that guy and his site here. I will say this though, that guy is a day quicker on a story than Darrah was, which makes him 3 days behind everyone else.



I wasn't asking about your posts, I have seen you call Tritone a "spook" many times, under many aliases. I'm asking what have you created to try to drum up either traffic or interest, in the last 6months to a year. I'll take it via PM, if you want. Pride is shit, I'll eat my words publicly if I have to.



Really, snarky porn event reviews are NOT mediocre? The only person that posts here, that has gone to a porn event recently is Gia. In case you haven't caught on, the industry is too small nowadays for her to risk being snarky about the active players. I don't blame her. If the whores are having trouble finding work, I would imagine it is harder for a photographer.



Mmmmm. My inbox got flooded w/ screenshots of posts and database info, but I want to keep the argument about this site. Pass.



Put in a decent effort? You should have had that thought when you went after figgs for pic posts, knowing he wouldn't engage you. Shoulda gone after me or have2, we are just as guilty AND game for a throw down.



There is the problem man, you are living in 2004 and hoping it will never end. What is there, 1/2 the porn industry now that there was then? And 2/3 of that is owned by Manwin? You think if JM was still hiring there would be more industry people here, dishing dirt and getting quoted on the blogs?

What is the number, 3? Is that how many people active in the porn industry we have regularly posting here? Brandon, Gia, and Fartz (he works in a jack shack).

Then add in the economy. Wasn't that long after it tanked that the traffic here started rapidly disappearing.

I do hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the glory days are gone. There is no magic needle that is going to bring back the zip on the fastball. We are in Gaylord Perry mode, scuffing and spitting, trying to have some fun. If that aint your game...the door's over there.

I had to check my old webmail account and I got the sign up email in September of 03. Although I spent most of the years through 07 gone for months at a time in some God forsaken rat hole that either didn't have internet or wouldn't allow a connection to any site with the word porn in the address.





Libertarianism isn't conservatism, nor is it farmers in Kansas buying bacon with silver coins. The truth isn't bigotry, no matter how much the left would like to make it so in order to keep people from uttering it. And yes I can be a big fucking prick, so what? Three meltdowns for the effort of one. A bargain even Panzer can appreciate.

That entire post is gold, Jerk, but this stood out in particular.

Thank you. That post took a long while, half the time fucking around trying to make the quotes work right.

I'll keep it short:



You're completely entitled to that opinion. Now, go back to fondling your dog.


Willie D. --> Stop posting. You were at the helm of a part of this ship when traffic began to decrease. Where was your effort? In the 3.5 years I've been here, you didn't post anything worth reading nor did you generate any traffic with your 'efforts'.

I'm wondering where the responsibility for generating traffic or post views fell to the moderators?

I thought, by definition, a moderators job was to moderate the content posted by, you guessed it: The Posters. And a good moderator would never be seen nor heard from in a perfect forum.

I kinda signed on to do housecleaning duties and try to organize things a little, according to their intended place. And especially to clean up the lately contested TFH Forum. I didn't expect to carry the mail for the board. Y'all are free to post most anything, I just want to make sure it goes where it belongs.

This thread sounds like a bunch of junior-high girls arguing in a bathroom.

Nah, your scenario might lead to a boner. This thread leads to nothing except butthurt.

I've been relatively quiet about all of this retarded shit, but I agree with Jerkules post about the state of the industry reflecting the state of the board. I don't understand how a more active industry dictated the right to make fun of it. Jeff fucking Steward is famous for what line now? Oh yeah, "whores lie". Now that we're down to talking about Manwin and Steve Hirsch, is it less appropriate to at least try and find something to make fun of in this ridiculous fucking business? I'll stay out of Talent For Hire. That's fine. I'm just waiting for the swerve. There's a swerve, right?

It's not the responsibility of the moderators. If that's the message you got from my post, I didn't put it right.

Willie D. ought not point fingers or assign blame for the 'decline' (if there actually is any) of this board. He has been here, posting, moderating, stirring things and what not, for more than six years. Apparently, his presence wasn't enough to avoid the decline, let alone reverse it.

Every message board gets the traffic and posters it deserves. At the moment, it seems XPT deserves 20 or so active posters and not an enormous amount of traffic (I didn't check and I don't care). The comparison of the current state with a situation of 4-8 years ago is simplistic and irrelevant. Too many parameters have changed to even begin making that comparison (mobile internet, bandwidth, amount of other porn-related forums, etc.).

My two pennies is that some people did go too far at times in the past and should know better that they'd scare some girls away. What else would you expect?

Secondly, I'm not around much anymore because I was gone long enough to fall out of the loop. More than half the stuff on here makes no sense to me. So why waste my time, wasting your time trying when all I'll ever do is look like an idiot.

Does that mean we aren't getting any candy canes for Christmas this year?

I posted those pics on a couple sites, along with links to generizer. I'll do the same next year, if you give us some holiday snaps.

I may do more candy canes for ya... and then some!

Fuck. How did I miss these pictures?

Cqd, are you serious???

Scroll to the bottom.
http://forum.jerkoffzone.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=500889&page=7

Yes I'm serious.

And why the fuck would anyone use less than 99 posts per page?
Scrolling down gets me to a post made today.

That thread has 3 pages for me.

Thanks I will look for the posts.

it's 12/20/11.

How far is ALLEGED alkie shithead Gene behind w/ a story???



http://www.adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=54671

6/12/2012: Gene reports on it
6/08/2012: Story was posted on LIB and revealed here
5/30/2012: She posted her blog on the ordeal

My apologies to Darrah. Gene is no faster than she was.

This clown is your benchmark? Did the dude need 2 weeks to sober up enough to type? Did he have to get his tarot cards back from the pawnshop, in order to do the story properly?

AAAAAAAND, the A-hole linked LIB, but never mentioned XPT. The story isn't worth reading as is, but w/o XPT's contributions, it wouldn't even be worth shamelessly regurgitating, as he did.

Suck it.

Let's keep in mind that the post was self started by someone who needed to show he was being picked on by the big ol meanies that keep the Beautiful Souls away.

As for getting BSs here, the thing I think that's getting lost here is that forums in general are falling out of favor. Have you noticed that tweet dialect isn't used here? For the most part, we spell correctly, our writing is coherent. For the most part. For a pw to be on this board, to really participate, would be a huge amount of time in comparison to the 30 seconds it takes to tweet out 16 characters about where they went drinking or to court.

On that note, your average pw newb, who is trying to get their name out, has how many thousand Facebook friends. And more followers on Twitter. Or whatever the contact media of the day is. Versus...um, how many of us are there? Add to that most pw are girls in their 18- mid20s. With loads of disposable income and a need to be seen. They have to have the most FB friends, the most Twitter followers.

The reason they don't come here, oh mighty mod, is that we have absolutely nothing to offer them. It doesn't matter how kiss ass we are to them. We can laugh at ADT, but the fact is they have more opportunities to connect with fans that will not only buy their vids, but more importantly, buy their merch...And most importantly of all, fill their Amazon wishlists or send cash or gift cards directly to them, in an unreportable to the kind of IRS way. Have any of you mods bought webcam shows or sent money to a pw? Have any of us? We have nothing to offer them.

For this dying medium to attract them, there has to be a fundamental change of this group. And that change would include very few of us. The mods included.

So, where do our 3 active pws fit into this? Just guessing, but I think Gia is a long timer and enjoys the company. Gen, same thing. Old school Yahoo Groups person. It's how she started in the business, if I recall right her talking about it. And she seems to like the company. MF? She's either batshit crazy or working us in Andy Kaufmannesque comedy angle. They're here for the same reason the rest of us are.

We are a very insignificant little corner of the interwebs, no matter what we believe we are.

Any discussion group is little more than the makeup of it's members, no matter what direction the owners/ managers/ mods want it to be. The 800lb gorilla in the room is that this is a porn forum in name only. We're just a bunch of weirdos that spout off hate, our weird bigotry, the little insignificant shit we have in our daily lives that for whatever reason we've decided we're safe to vent about here. It's where we go when our pets die. It's where we go to brag about new cars, deals we've made, hassles with the mailman.

So you can alienate the people who participate here for the sake of some ideal you have for this place. Chase all the nay sayers away. It still won't get pws to participate here. Sorry, but someone had to say it.

^^^Word up. Word the fuck up.

Interesting.

I have been prone to say that Barry is too wordy at times. This is not one of those times. That was good. Worth every word.

I'm not all into noob bashing, but I do feel neutered when I ask for a whore to post a pic of her asshole, she gives us a Dorito & vibrator shot, and I can't give a proper response. Bad ass anal whore, huh?

I've said it before, but with JM not hiring talent, no talent is going to post in the Whore Safe Zone trying to get noticed. Who was the last legit talent that posted in there looking for work? The Florida whore in jail for murder, like 3 years ago?

P.S. The Tarot Alkie ran the same story 2 days apart. I hate to give the sumbitch clicks, but it is funny how pathetic he is.

http://adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=55014

http://adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=55002

It is too bad that XPT isn't relevant enough for him to mention.

actually it was the mature blonde with the tits.cant remember her name right now.

Hell, I think I'm wordy. But the truth is the truth and sometimes it takes a bit to get out.

As for noobs are we talking newbs or pw newbs? I'm the first to admit I'll jump on a newb poster just for giggles. But if they can't hang, they can't hang.

We have fewer than 10,000 members here. How many of that 10,000 have even logged in within the last year? Yeah, this can compete with 25,000 followers to the lowliest of low pws. If we were just nicer. Bullshit.

We are what we are. The best case scenario is you'll drive away the people who do contribute.

And if it's a money thing to keep the board running, well, if it can't sustain itself, maybe it needs not to exist.

And it is a money thing, isn't it? There's really no other reason for the gyrations the Keepers of the Dragon have been putting themselves through.

I meant newb posters. You take a guy like Fartz. He lurked forever, before being coaxed in here. How many other quality posters you think are out there, but don't want to deal with fighting off a hazing.

<<Lurkers out there. Just jump in with something legit funny, or with some fire in your belly. Everyone will probably give you sometime, trying to figure out if you are an alt.>>

Steve either is too busy or doesn't give a shit to update or fix things that can lead to money coming in. The internet video rentals link to Bush DVD is just listed as bushdvd.com with no affiliate specific URL, there is one for Sugar DVD above it.

http://forum.jerkoffzone.net/home also has links to other retailers on the left side, some but not all have affiliate links, and links to some performers sites. Hannahharper.net and FuckJasmineTame.com don't even exist anymore. There's a few sponsored links at the bottom right. But does anyone who is not a brand new user here go through jerkoffzone.net, then forum.jerkoffzone.net/home/ to work their way into the forums? http://www.cdmovies.us/ doesn't exist anymore, and the listed affiliate link url for Adult DVD Explorer doesn't work, so you have to just go to AdultDVDExplorer.com but there'd be nothing going to JM as a result of any purchase.

Once you're into the forums at or past http://forum.jerkoffzone.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php there's just the JM VOD/download links, the two rental links I mentioned in the paragraph above, and Gossip & News sites. They should all match up and actually be updated.

1) You gotta be the only one to click that shit.

2) Have you told Steve before now? "Hey man, blah blah blah." usually gets a response.

I've mentioned a few things to him before mostly on the forum (none in pm's I think), nothing as detailed as what I posted above.

And unless there is something in their TOS that prohibits adult based sites, why isn't there a link to buy things at Amazon? I must make a few purchases from them a month and can't be the only person here who does.

Amazon even carries some porn, surprisingly even this one, where the Laura Cannon scene has to be one of the most disturbing things I've seen in a film, porn or otherwise. Makes Max look like a light touch.

Only a Benny. Illegal downloads are cheaper.

This thread was started for three reasons. To shunt the melting down away from the Raven Bay thread (it worked partially), as a place to move the rule breaking posts, and as a place to bitch about board policy rather than all over the place.

It doesn't matter how many people post here or how many porn workers choose to post here. The Talent For Hire rules are going to stand. If you don't understand that then just you don't understand that. It's not my problem.

If Sean chooses to enact the same or similar rules in General Porn Talk that is his prerogative, not mine, just like in Talent For Hire, but reading his post, rather than just reacting to it, what he said sounded more like a suggestion to improve overall board traffic, not a hard and fast rule. It's troubling that you're not able to comprehend the difference.

What it comes down to is this, you don't get a say in how the board is run. If you don't like that, then you can vote with your post or lack of posting. It's just that simple.

Barry, it's good to see you back. Glad the crying fit is over. Thank you for reminding me of one of the major reasons I quit smoking pot.

@Jig: Steve has said in the past that he doesn't read the board much. Try putting a list of the broken stuff in a somewhat polite PM or email and see if anything happens.

Don't have a say? Seriously? You really think that, don't you? The forum in general is not about you, or any mod. It's about the people who post (or don't) here. At the risk of being thrown in the hole for 30 days, I can't believe you're this obtuse.

Thanx for not answering a single point I made and went back to the "crying fit" thing. Kinda figured that'd happen. That and the "I'm in charge here" seems to be about all you have as justification. Pathetic.

It's about the people who own the board and the people those owners saw fit to put in charge of the board, but of course you're incapable of understanding that. Which is just one of the side effects of spending half the day in front of the TV with a bong attached to your face.

Teehee. "In charge". You boys are riding an awful tall horse.

Once again, no response to my points. Just insults. It's all you have and it's still pathetic. Will you ever answer them, or do you know you have no answer but insults.

In your perfect world you three will just be talking to each other. Oh, and Steve too. You say I don't understand because I'm a doper. Then what's your excuse, Dirty Harry? The board is dying and you're...well, I honestly don't know what you're doing. But, hey, you know best. You say so, so it must be true. Gods among men, you are.

No you don't understand because you're stupid or maybe just bi-polar. It's just exacerbated by the dope. You don't have any point because you have no say. Yeah, I know you can't grasp that concept, but hold on and listen a little longer before you fall back into the hypnotic gaze of that infomercial again. If you were willing to put your money where your bong is and pay Jeff for the bandwidth your stealing with your 3500+ posts of stoner ramblings, and the hundreds of pictures of shitty smoking accessories, perhaps he would be willing to give you a say.

I can understand having rules and all. But lately, it seems like the attitude and comments are designed to purposely instigate, irritate and to drive people away. "You have no say here. Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!! Deal with it, bitches!"

Actually, you do have a say here Steezo, in all the forums except TFH and even there only a couple of rules have to be observed. But people so drug/drink/mania addled like Barry can't grasp that. It's all or nothing with idiots like that. They don't understand these sort of subtleties. He complains about being called names, after spending the last fifty posts calling me names. How can anyone reason with such a moronic intellect? You have to bludgeon them over the head with harsh words just to get anything through to their myopic fields of personal vision.

So...I'm...stealing bandwidth now? And if I'm stealing "your bandwidth", doesn't that make it mine? Check your spelling when you call someone stupid, Stupid. Or as Clint would say "If you're gonna hang someone, make sure they're dead".

But back to this stealing bandwidth thing. What does that mean, exactly? Aren't we all guilty of that...assuming in this case there is such a thing? Were you stealing bandwidth before you're (spelling so you can understand, Stupid) coronation? Have you paid into the fund? Is there a fund? Or are you just flailing uselessly hoping to God to regain relevance? It's a strawman, because there has never been any "Donate Here" button that I've ever seen. And how do you know I wouldn't contribute? How do we know you would? Or are you putting in sweat equity?

Hundreds of pictures of shitty smoking accessories? Nice shot at an insult, but you fail to understand that any shit you talk about my stuff is still more positive than what I think of the stuff I make. Thanx for playing tho. And hundreds of pictures? 25 maybe...maybe. But that's what this is about, isn't it? I disagree with you and your kind, so it has to turn personal because it's all you have. Your wrong, you're little social experiment is wrong, and deep down you know it. Too bad your so invested in it. You've painted yourself in a corner and the only way you can find to get out is to entrench yourself deeper. But hey, the board's about you, born and lou.

The fact is I made valid points in my long post. You saying it's stoner rambling doesn't change that.

As for Steve giving me a say, I'm a member of this board and I'll have my say until you decide to get rid of me again. I'm sorry if you don't like it. No, scratch that. I couldn't give a fuck whether you, born or lou don't like it.

C'mon, lou. Jump in with your boys and tell me how stupid and stoned I am and all the other insults your brain trust has been throwing my way.

Are you claiming I or any other mod with the power banned you?

Oh shit. Twice in a month I've agreed with charin.

But was Barry banned? He mentioned that he could not log in. havy seems to imply the opposite. What is it?

Good question. Barry, were you banned?

I said you were my favorite way before any of his shit started. I've actually lost track of where this started to be honest but thats not your problem.

anyways...I think I already said this very recently but I can stand alone. it's probably what got me this spot but I'd only be guessing. I never asked for it. point is you'll hear from me on my time unless you actually need something. I'm here to help, ya know?.

You tell me.

What I do know is that I couldn't log on from whatever date until Sunday afternoon. I'd try a couple of times a day for a week or so, then I pretty much gave up...tried maybe once or so a week...I was about to give up and call this the "dream" season of Dallas and managed to get on Sunday.

I don't know if I was banned, if there was a glitch in the Matrix, some weirdness with my ISP. Don't know. I was rocking the boat, threats were being tossed around at dissenters (and still are). But I honestly don't know. Do I put it past any of you? Considering your behaviour, of course not. You'll do anything to be "right". I don't want to believe I was banned, and wouldn't have 4 months ago. But now? Anything's possible with you.

So I guess we're back to you tell me. Of course, we'll have to take your word for it either way. If only your word had value.

OK, I was very pissed when I first heard this, because a banning with out an announcement would be such a pussy move. I sent feelers out, before I commented. My sources confirm that Barry was not banned.

Barry, if this was a troll, then I am sorry I fucked it up on you. My opinion is that a fucking pussy move like a hush hush banning is something that could potentially nuke the board, so I felt obligated to say something.

I will PM Barry my evidence.

Of course he wasn't banned. I haven't even looked into how one goes about banning someone, much less doing it. I certainly wouldn't ban a contributing poster just because I didn't like them or disagreed with them.

Edit: As laughed at here many times before, my home ISP is Hughesnet. Some Mormon in their HQ bans XPT from my permissible websites or forgets to update their dns servers from time to time and I have been excluded from this site for days at a time. Likely that's what happened to Barry. I really just wanted to see how much of a rant he could get on with and how many people he could get to fall in line with him by claiming to be banned. At the very end there, he stepped back from the ledge.

I checked the users list around June 13 and his name was right on the second page, it was a little after the week he disappeared on May 30 (that was a Wednesday), and not only was he still there (aka not banned, because you don't show up in the users list when your banned and I bet several others noticed his name was still there) he still had his last login date listed as May 30. If he had logged in that Sunday as he claimed to have, it would have read June 3.

I checked because I was stuck in a hotel with nothing to do but twiddle my thumbs all day, surf the net, or surf a channel selection of maybe 5 English speaking stations. If one part of his story is bullshit, then the rest of it is likely bullshit as well. A bitch move Barry blaming your butt hurt on a mod's vengeance, then trying an awkward back pedaling when confronted with the truth. I really had thought better of you than that.

edited to change from first page to second page

^^Of course you did. You should congratulate me for not stealing your personal bandwidth. The fact remains I was unable to logon. If you're saying I blamed anyone, fine. I also blamed a glitch in the system and/ or a problem with my ISP or my end. Those were the three options available to me. If you need to soothe your butthurt by focusing on the one that looks in your and your boy's direction, well, that's your choice.

I never claimed to have logged in on the 3rd. Not sure where that came from. Probably the same place that JB and I were in cahoots. I was able to logon the 7th, when I started posting again.

Maybe I was banned, maybe I wasn't. I honestly don't know. Once again, considering your behaviour, I'm not sure what I was supposed to think. Like I said, I'll have to take your word, but considering you feel this is your personal spot and I've been stealing from you, your word isn't worth the bandwidth I'm stealing.

If I wasn't banned, apologies all around. At the end of the day, only you and your boys know for sure. Call it backpedaling if you want to, but I've always been able to own the wrong things I've done. I don't know if I was right or wrong here. It's your board, so my guilt or innocence is up to you.

How much money have you donated to the cause, hav? Where is the "donate" button?

That date was May 30, that's what your posting history will tell anyone willing to look at it here. That following Sunday was the 3rd.

Maybe you were better off letting people think you were too butthurt and needed to sulk before coming back rather than opening your mouth to show that you're also a liar.

I've bought plenty of porn from JM. I was a big fan of Ashley Blue before she marshmallowed up and Reverse Bukkakee 3 is one of my all time favorite titles. Not a GF fan though, wasn't ever my thing.

Wait. What? I never said what the final date was I was able to logon. I don't remember when it was. I'll defer to your Godhood that it was May 30th. May have been, but I never looked. Congrats, you got one on me...I think. But savor every imaginary victory you can. I admit I was confused at about the month of the Sunday. You said it was June 3rd, I read it as July 3rd. My mistake. The day I was able to logon successfully was Sunday July 8th.

Curious: You keep talking about me being butthurt and sulking. Since you're a mindreader as well as Keeper of the Dragons, what exactly was I butthurt over? You being wrong? You acting like a douche? You inflating your head and thinking you and this board are something you're not?

So, you've bought JM porn. Bully for you. When did that become a rule to join and post here? Could you post a link to that? Maybe when you post a link to the "Donate" button? I liked AB too. Does that take me off the bandwidth stealing list you're compiling?

I'll give you this. You've managed to take the attention from you and your boys pigheaded ideas and turned it into being about me. Go capitalism! But whatever you think you've proved doesn't change the fact that you are wrong wrong wrong. But that's OK. It should be a glorious fall that will be loads of fun to watch. Too bad it'll be at the cost of a forum some of us really value.

Hey, is dropping my name in every thread part of the more civil tone you've been preaching? Way to lead by example, homie.

Haven't read the entire thing, but the 30th was the date of your last post, before your re-emergence.

It was just so difficult for the two clicks that it took to find out when you were posting last, or to check the calendar on your PC/Mac, that I can perfectly understand why you were totally incapable of finding it yourself.

Butthurt about not being allowed to do and say whatever you wanted in that one forum only. While many will agree it was a completely immature reaction, and the lamest meltdown seen here in some time, I'm sure you won't be able to man up to that fact either, just like you were not able to man up to the fact you were lying about being banned. I should expect deflection and back pedaling on that too?

You asked what I ever did for JM, the answer is much more than you. Liar.

This board ran just fine when this rule was in effect before. Quit being a drama queen as well as a liar. If TFH turns into a ghost town, because of it, nobody really cares but you and your butt buddies.

What's a matter you can dish it by calling me out in most every fucking thread you're posting in, but when it's dished back you cry like a little er.. pirate? Shocker.




That’s it Barry, show us your pirate face.

TFH hasn't been worth paying attention to since mpz was posting hot cutters and old messes in there.

When I was a kid my mom dressed me and my bro up as pirates for a local fair, I got into a fight with my brother and my mom hit me to keep me in line, I teared up in public and there's a picture of me somewhere as a kid, all teary-eyed from my mom's smack on the back of my head and a pirate. This thread reminds me of that day.

Considering I'm one of the straighter shooters here, I'm just not seeing I'd waste that rep on a piece of shit you hav. The fact is, for all your bitching, I've had my say all along. You've done a great job of turning the direction from your poor ideas to whatever you think you've caught me at. But that will last only so long, and then you'll be left with the results of your silly plan. But you'll still be right, I'm sure.

Crying about you dishing it out? I was pointing out that your own behaviour is the same behaviour you're trying to stop. I know you can't see that...won't see it...whatever.

I never asked what you did for JM. Ever. I asked where the "donate" button is. Where it says you have to buy JM product to be here. How much money you yourself have donated to this forum. Or does your stellar history of solid posts exempt you? But those are questions, among many, that you just don't have an answer for.

Doesn't matter, tho. It's your show, as you told us, so any failure or success belong to you and yours.

werd.... it should be interesting to see what happens in gpt the next time there's a shitshow though. naimsayin?.

arguable. you accused me of trying to set you up for a ban when i requested that you be able to use the word whore. you're paranoid at the very least, yes?. it's obvious.

and you're still sticking with the "i may have been banned" routine?. really?. heh

it's verifiable at the highest level(< not a pot shot at you)that you weren't.

please do carry on though and i hope you aren't representing anyone that matters here because at this point they should be some embarrassed.

Poor Barry he has mistaken verbose for truthful. A common mistake among the perpetually stoned. It's already been proven he's a liar. There's nothing left but to stick a fork in him. Pathetic.

In the name of fairness, I must interject. The ideas at the origin of this argument did not belong to Have2cit, they were Bornyo's. The only idea I can think of that Have2 came up with in the recent past was the IBTC thread, which you gotta admit was a good one.

^^^Dude you're pissing in the wind here. Bary's running his little game like the good little marionette he is. Truth doesn't matter to him neither does being accurate. He has his orders.

I do not see Barry as the proven liar here. Something else could have prevented him from joining the circus sooner, as was pointed out.

The fight is an interesting one, although not really mine anymore. Freedom. Expression. Captivity. Oppression. All the right ingredients. Morality is just not that interesting eventually.

He knew he wasn't banned. He was under orders during his last tirade as well along with his commie sidekick. His master would have let him know. He was butt hurt sulking.

Dooooooood, I never put 2 and 2 together before right now. I think I figured it out.

FIGGS! Call off your dogs so Have2 shuts the fuck up and goes back to posting in the IBTC thread and the Face Down Ass High thread.

Matter of fact, aren't there 2 Face Down, Ass High threads? Or was that Redheads there is 2 of? How bout a mod do something useful and merge them fuckers?

i have no part in any of this.but ill post more pics today to try to calm things down.

Don't lie Frankie, Have2 figgered it out. You are the puppet master behind Barry and Freestylah attacking him. He knows you hate him because he is a proponent of itty bitty titties, which are kryptonite to a fake tit perv like yourself.

ok you found me out.my main purpose on the board is to have fake tit/titfucking take over the world and this can only be done with the nicest of tits(including natural ones).the tit racial holy war has been declared,the gloves have been taken off,and the crisco is in the ketchup bottle.tithowah!

^^^ Now I'm picturing Figgs as an evil mastermind. But with a monocle instead of a black eye.

Steezo, I wish we still had members proficient in photoshop to make that happen.

Why can't he have a monocle and a black eye?

someone just ps a monocle on the black eye pic.its to show my commitment to tithowah.by any mammaries necessary.

OK then Frankie, how long until you undo you trickery you put on Freestylah's log in screen, and let him start posting again?

Is Freesy banned then or is this just trolling along, Jerky?

I'm thinksing maybes no-one remembers what I'm talking about. Come one. Figgis, even endorsled thi1s!

Just trolling.

Steezo, I remember that pic.

@ Jerk, we can't merge those threads because it would erase the all-important thread views.

*giggle* Err I meant to say I was sorry. I realize how the lack of income and personal recognition I get from threads I started on a FREE message board can hurt.

merging all the whore id threads might be fun though.
none of those meatbags care about views.


argue among yourselves and i'll check back when i get time....

Well, I'm glad the Wrasslin Thread is in the right spot and its 30k+ views are safe. Still have a month and a half before it reaches its first birthday, too. I'm going to have to drop some more stellar in there, and see if I can push it to 36K, for a 3k/month avg. The views lately have picked up speed, a little over 1000/week. I'll attribute that to the Extreme Rising talk, along with Reby Sky's ass.

You should apply that effort to a job, dude.

I have my fingers crossed that by this time next year, my job will be taking up more of my time.

Paranoid? Yup. Guilty as charged and have never denied it. When mods start threatening wholesale banning for saying naughty words, on an "uncensored" forum, sure it'll me lead to look on the grassy knoll. Guilty as charged.

No, i'm not playing the I don't know if I was banned thing. Thanx to you, actually. Secondhand admittedly, but for all the shit being thrown around, I do trust your word.

The problem is I never said I was sure about anything. I had a fairly short list of reasons. An overzealous mod was one of them. And I certainly wasn't going to ask any of the Star Chamber. In retrospect, I should've gone to Steve in the first place, like when I was having problems when he first assumed the throne. It reminds me of my ex when I first stasrted started having panic attacks. I had a million "causes". Everything from heart failure to a tumor to her poisoning me to demon possession. About 20 or so others. All she heard was the "her poisoning me" thing. Got to listen to that every day of our abortion, er, marriage. Hav, I'll just start calling you me "cunt ex".

Who am I representing? Seriously. PM me, if you need to.

For not having a say, I've had my say. And for being an insignificant poster who steals bandwidth (still like to know where that "donate" button is) I've gotten under hav's skin nicely. Go capitalism!

Panic attacks are fun, aren't they? I used to get these strange pains in my left arm which I didn't realize were related to a couple of ruptured discs in my neck. I'd get myself all worked up thinking it had to be related to my heart and then it'd turn into a panic attack, which can resemble a heart attack. And the more I tried to convince myself that it wasn't a heart attack, the more I'd be able to convince myself that maybe, just maybe, it was.

"I'm diabetic, mostly sedentary, somewhat overweight, I drink like a fish, Oh GOD I'm about to fucking die!" Then there was the time my thyroid pill dosage got out of whack and I woke up in the middle of the night with a headache and a racing heart and convinced myself I was about to have a stroke. Good times.

Strawman argument, but please carry on. No mod at any time has threatened to ban anyone much less a wholesale banning of people. Everything you say falls apart unless you can show me where anyone threatened a "wholesale banning" for anything, much less using a particular word.

^^^All he has are stawmen B. Any change in the little ordered world he's created, in his mind, becomes the wholesale destruction of the entire universe and blindly lashing out his only defense. Think of the Jack Nicholson character from As Good As It Gets, without any writing talent of course. Oh, and he will carry on, he is in fact incapable of stopping himself from carrying on. Just what the board needs another obsessive compulsive. No wonder they work so well together.

I'd like to point out that the sisterfucker did threaten to, and then did ban me for using a certain word against Tritone. Someone else unbanned me within hours and I didn't have to complain or anything. The whole thing was funny.

Was the word.....



???

You are correct sir.

Who is the sisterfucker?

JRV, who is also still a mod though hasn't been on the site since February. Then he was only on because someone used the Notify button. Before that it was months since he had been here. We're not missing anything though.

Not that we need a shit load of mods, nut I don't see why alot of them are still listed. To tell you the truth, I'd see it as a breach of security that all these clowns that no langer participate have access behind the curtain of the site.

Say Barry could convince JRV that a sister swap is on the table, if JRV would tell him what the mods have been saying about him in the mod forum? Or he plies Zen Man w/ a custom made "TOBACCO" smoking apparatus? Or he offers Conky some vacuum sealed panties from the his next dead hooker date in exchange for his log in and password?

Just because people were Jeff's friends 100 years ago, don't make them anymore than dead weight now. Look at Brandon.

Is that an offer, Jerky? I see you posting a ton of pics and always somewhat moderating without being a moderator. This would fit in if you planned to take over.

No, for the amount of traffic the site gets, we have plenty of active Mods. Any more, and it would be the equivalent of a vanity plate, not a badge. Besides, I have my precious page views to stare at, if I need the ego stroke. It is just annoying to see the names up there when they don't participate on the site anymore.

Only Mod change I'd make is to take Bornyo off AWOP and put Panzer in charge. He's the king of AWOP anyway, and it would be fun for a week until he got boxed and Bornyo was put back in charge.

Just making sure.

Spot on. They talk about talking yourself through it, deep breathing, all that. But they never talk about that nagging voice in the back of your head telling you "this is it...it's all over". There's no control over that. Add to it when it's over, all you can think is that it's just a warning sign. The precursor to the real heart attack or stroke (my 2 bugaboos). A single episode will ruin at least a day. It's paralyzing. I hate them with every fiber of my being.

fuck it... fair enough barry. i have no interest in a quote fest and i get where you're coming from.
paranoia is a helluva drug and it keeps you sharp. never forget that. one of my favorite quotes.. from ME!
trust no one...learn everything. - loucypher

and the next time anything out of the ordinary happens with your connection to this board please do contact steve. he hates to be bothered so don't everyone take this as an invitation to bend over and show him your plumbing every time any little thing happens here. i'm speaking directly to barry.

and back at ya on the pm.