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#390680 - 01/14/09 06:03 PM Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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In my latest conversation with Skeeter Kerkove he went off on talent agent Mark Spiegler.

Spiegler got a lot of press courtesy of the Las Vegas Weekly during the recent AEE show and was treated like a Love God, but that doesnít seem to impress Skeeter who frequently brings up an incident when Spiegler told Jayna Oso to stay away from Skeeter and not to fuck him.

ďI remember what Melissa Lauren used to tell me, and Katja Kassin and Katsuni, and Jayna Oso,Ē says Skeeter. ďOh man itís so hard being with Mark. He lives in this nasty apartment. He wants to control your life, then he wants his blowjobs.Ē

ďHe does enforced blowjobs with his girls,Ē states Skeeter.

ďI have it on BTS of Jayna Oso, Melissa Lauren, Katja Kassin and Katsuni talking about it. Jerry Van Nuys shot it. I know Mark loves Adult DVD Talk because they donít know he lives in a little ghetto apartment thatís so crappy it makes the girls cry. Itís one of the crappiest apartments in the Valley, that all the girls make jokes about. Itís that bad.Ē

ďThen I have Jayna Oso saying on BTS in my guest bathroom- and I canít believe she used this word- that she keeps Ďincurringí these charges. She said Spiegler always got mad at her telling her itís wrong for her and her boyfriend who was having sex with transsexuals, to be delivering pizzas and Chinese food. Spiegler didnít make money off of that and didnít like it. It was some pretty wild stuff on the BTS [in a Mayhem movie.]Ē

ďJayna Oso also put up her phone to my phone with Mark telling her not to fuck me,Ē Skeeter continues.

ďJaynaís holding up the phone and Spieglerís telling her donít fuck him again. Whoa, I was fucking the bitch before he ever met her. Come on. Iím trying to hire her to do a good scene, but he kept calling her like an obsessive boyfriend.

"Another time I almost vomited all over my pants when he told me, you know, Jayna and I are in love. Jayna and I got a thing for each other. I told him she like this guy who dates transsexuals, why should she like you. He told me he wasnít going to let her date this guy any more. Thatís what he told me. I told him I donít care about the trannies, the pizzas or the Chinese food. I just wanted her to do a good scene and for him not to freak her out."

ďBecause Jayna would do the double-anals for me with the evil black men. But Mark didnít want it. And when Mark lost Sasha Grey and Katsuni, that took the wind out of his sails. That was it.Ē

Skeeter remembers the time when he first contacted Spiegler about Oso.

"I told him she does a great job and Iíd like for you to represent her. He represents her. Then I find out about the breakup between Mike Sullivan and Derek Hay and Mark. If I had known that, I wouldnít have given her to Mark. But it was too late. Heís telling her not to fuck me? This is ridiculous.

"First off Iím not asking her to fuck me. Weíd already done that before in a motel room for crissake. And then he came back saying that the scene she did for me didnít pay enough and she needs more money two months later. After I gave the girl to him. Can you believe that? That motherfucker used to come over to my home and Iíd let him film for free and have my fucking whore [Bridgette] for half price so he could pocket more money. So what the fuck is that motherfucker talking about? Telling Jayna Oso donít do this, donít do that. Then he wants enforced blowjobs. What a fucking creep."

"He tells them donít date any porn producers. Donít date any porn directors. Yet he wants an enforced blowjob. Can you imagine sending your daughter to Mark Spiegler, how wrong would that be?"

"Spieglerís spiel has always been that he doesnít need the money. How many times have you heard that? Many times. Then what are you doing? If you donít need the money that means youíre a trick. David Christopher told me that when Spieglerís daddy died, he got none of the inheritance. But when his mother died, he got it all.

"He then met David Christopher and started investing money in him and made some money. And he got to be around beautiful girls. Then he met Mike McCormick and Mike Adams who belittled him all the time but he didnít care because he got to be around beautiful girls."

ďYou would tell people look at my cars, Iím not poor. But some of the girls would say, yes, your carís expensive. But itís used. Why do you live in an apartment thatís worth less than a car? That donít make sense.

"Mark Spiegler lives in an apartment but he tells girls that heís a multi, multi-millionaire, that he doesnít need the money. But if you ever got Katja Kassin or Melissa Lauren to talk, my God could they tell you forced blowjob stories. Because they sure did it on my set.Ē

ďMark used to favor Bridgette and I because we hired more than anybody. There was a time in 2004 when the Kerkoves did 119 bookings in one year. Is it a lot for two people? Thatís a lot. Thatís a long time ago and things change.

"But Iíll tell you that little guy is a fucking back-stabbing, trick-fucking bitch. I regret I ever let him use my house for free for location. I regret that I ever let him have Larry Flyntís number one bodyguard fuck my wifeís ass for half price to help him make more money.Ē

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#390681 - 01/14/09 07:19 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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I don't believe a word of it. He looks like a kind hearted generous and wonderful human being to me...


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#390682 - 01/14/09 07:27 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Inside the Spiegler mansion. Hugh Hefner, eat your fuckin heart out...






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#390683 - 01/14/09 07:32 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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What a shithole apartment. What a scumbag.

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#390684 - 01/14/09 07:37 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Quote:

What a shithole apartment. What a scumbag.




Shows you how much these girls love $$$ that when they turn up at his apartment and that fat, greasy, no good looking motherfucker opens the door to his sty they decide to stay there and suck his cock everynight.

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#390685 - 01/14/09 07:38 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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I like Spiegler. He's a nice guy. But holy Krappa Krappa Gamma...get some furniture at the Spiegler sorority and clean that place!

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#390686 - 01/14/09 07:41 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Quote:

Quote:

What a shithole apartment. What a scumbag.




Shows you how much these girls love $$$ that when they turn up at his apartment and that fat, greasy, no good looking motherfucker opens the door to his sty they decide to stay there and suck his cock everynight.




You've got no fucking idea what you are talking about. Don't believe everything you read. Just most of it.

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#390687 - 01/14/09 07:42 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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You've got no fucking idea what you are talking about. Don't believe everything you read. Just most of it.




Fill us in then...

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#390688 - 01/14/09 07:44 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Not my job, or my whim. But if you want to go shitting on agents based on what Skeeter says, start on some of the other ones, who might truly deserve it.

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#390689 - 01/14/09 07:46 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Okay, don't then...


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#390690 - 01/14/09 07:46 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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No hiding the fact that's a shithole. It makes it easier to believe the rest.

Next.

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#390691 - 01/14/09 07:47 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Inside the Spiegler mansion. Hugh Hefner, eat your fuckin heart out...










i actually think that pad kinda nice.

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#390692 - 01/14/09 07:49 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Quote:

Quote:

Inside the Spiegler mansion. Hugh Hefner, eat your fuckin heart out...










i actually think that pad kinda nice.




What a fucking shock that is.

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#390693 - 01/14/09 07:51 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Quote:

No hiding the fact that's a shithole. It makes it easier to believe the rest.

Next.




You know, I try to maintain some objectivity on this board, because I have to deal with the people who actually work in the industry, so I rarely say what I know or think most of the time. At least not yet. All I can say is, don't base your opinion of Mark Spiegler on Skeeter and a couple shitty photos.

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#390694 - 01/14/09 07:56 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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+1, Charlie. My friends who are or have been repped by Spiegler have glowing reviews on him. He has a very professional reputation.
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#390695 - 01/14/09 07:57 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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how about charlie go on vacation and diablo fill us in for a few days

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#390696 - 01/14/09 07:58 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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You'll have to wait for the book, G.

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#390697 - 01/14/09 08:00 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Figures a darkie would like that apartment. Spiegler looks like a fucking troll. He could have all the ethics an biz savvy in the world, but he still looks like a creepy kidtoucher.

Why not pay one of the uglier whores $50 to clean the fucking place. Nasty. No wonder his good whores leave him.
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#390698 - 01/14/09 08:01 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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trust me when i tell you this charlie i got one hella story for your book. it will sell millions. pm me for a hint.

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#390699 - 01/14/09 08:13 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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"I regret that I ever let him have Larry Flyntís number one bodyguard fuck my wifeís ass for half price to help him make more money.Ē
With a comment like that who can question Skeeters moral turpitude?
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#390700 - 01/14/09 08:32 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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The link to that story doesn't work because Gene Ross has removed it from his site.

I contacted Spiegler, who says that he spoke with Ross at 6:25 PM PST and that Ross removed the article minutes later. Spiegler adds, "Skeeter is a liar. I defy Skeeter or Gene to produce the tapes."

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#390701 - 01/14/09 08:33 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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charlie continues his tom brokaw like investigations.,,,

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#390702 - 01/14/09 08:36 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Quote:

The link to that story doesn't work because Gene Ross has removed it from his site.

I contacted Spiegler, who says that he spoke with Ross at 6:25 PM PST and that Ross removed the article minutes later. Spiegler adds, "Skeeter is a liar. I defy Skeeter or Gene to produce the tapes."




Which is exactly why we need a place like XPT to paste the interviews. If Skeeter can't produce the BTS I'll apologize, but I'm betting tomorrow the article goes back up along with links to the BTS footage.

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#390703 - 01/14/09 08:39 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Listen man, I am the first one to want to engage in investigations here, so don't hit me with that.


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#390704 - 01/14/09 08:41 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Quote:

Mark Spiegler's Mad



--Gene Ross

I had a conversation with talent agent Mark Spiegler Wednesday night and told him Iíd take down an earlier interview with Skeeter Kerkov until such time as Skeeter can produce a tape heís referring to.

Skeeter claims that some of Spieglerís girls had made some comments about alleged blowjobs and that he had it on a BTS tape.

ďI defy Skeeter to produce that tape,Ē said Spiegler who claims he got contacted by Melissa Lauren almost as soon as the story went up.

ďYou know Skeeterís not a reliable source,Ē continued Spiegler. ďThe girls have texted me already. Itís patently a lie.Ē

According to Spiegler the text of Laurenís message to him was, ďHeís [meaning Skeeter] fucking nuts. Drugs are bad.Ē

ďYou know Skeeterís not a reliable source,Ē says Spiegler. ďBut if you can prove it, knock yourself out. You know heís a liar. I know heís probably upset that heís not a centerpiece in the business any more. I helped the guy out from the beginning and never had a bad word with the guy. Ever. I donít know what his problem is and where this came out of. But people are calling me and writing me.Ē

ďI donít care what Skeeter says," Spiegler continued.

"He says this kind of stuff all the time. But whatís fair is fair. Skeeter was probably drinking and talking shit. I know this never happened and I know he doesnít have it on tape. Jayna Oso may have said it, but she was whacked out of her mind and he was banging the chick. All the others are level headed. I donít know why Skeeterís coming up with this stuff. It ainít true and it never happened.Ē




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#390705 - 01/14/09 09:05 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Text message to Mark Spiegler from Melissa Lauren:

To:
81832XXXXX

Sent:
Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:42 PM
LAUREN, MELISSA

There s a story on adultfyi where skeeter says he has me, katsu, katja on tape saying we gave you bjs... He's fucking nuts! Drugs are bad

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#390706 - 01/14/09 09:28 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Dude, what did your GagDaddy teach you? Whores lie. If I was a betting man I'd bet the video exists. If it wasn't porn I'd bet the video surfaces tomorrow. Because it's porn Skeeter could change his mind for any number of reasons.

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#390707 - 01/14/09 09:35 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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That's fine, dude. I know who I trust among those I personally know. And if your tape surfaces, remember...WHORES LIE.

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#390708 - 01/14/09 10:09 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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I introduced this topic at the other board. Spiegler is reading this board, too. You can see it here. click

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#390709 - 01/15/09 05:00 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Quote:

My friends who are or have been repped by Spiegler have glowing reviews on him.




1.) i read this as "My friends who are or have been raped by Spiegler..." {ha}

2.) this argument saddens me. a couple of years ago, spiegler forwarded my kerkove-laden myspace page to skeeter...

3.) does fucking skeeter like ANYBODY? i mean, besides me. {ha}
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#390710 - 01/15/09 06:01 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Here is my opinion and assessment, for which I have absolutely NO proof or solid basis other than my own Burglar-sense:

1) Spiegler conducts BUSINESS well and is KNOWN for that; it is why he still even has Girls willing to be repped by him, his reputation for making THEM money trumps all else, including his dodgy-scary appearance. But as Gia's testimony bears out, looks are totally deceiving.

2) His apartment actually makes TOTAL sense to me, and here's why: Look at the business he is in, and look at the general character and behavior of the typical porn whores we know. If this guy had a NICE apartment with NICE things in it, how long do you think it would last? Stuff would disappear at a regular rate and his "nice" apartment would soon have cig burns and stains, barf stains and who knows what else.....he is providing a TEMPORARY, LOW cost, SAFE residence for the girls in town working for him. By keeping things NO frills, he keeps his costs down, which benefits everyone. Whether he is wealthy or not, who knows. But even there, I KNOW plenty of people with money who tend to live BELOW their means for MANY MANY valid reasons. Even myself, I only blow money on shit I truly want and enjoy. I dont buy stuff merely to project a certain image or perception amongst other people.....FUCK them, let them make their own fortune and buy all kinds of useless shit to have around their house and attract scoundrels.

3) The Blowjobs: Isnt it basically a "given" that in a business where Sex is so frivolously performed and shown, that the relationship between an agent and his girls MAY be punctuated from time to time by some agrred upon sexual perks? Why would this be so shocking or bad? If Spiegler asks his girls, as part of their obligation to him, to suck his schlong once a month (or whatever), and they agree to it, whats the big deal? Even if he gets insistent and forceful in his demands to be sucked off....the girls can always jump ship and go to another agent and suck his dick, or maybe even SEE THELIGHT and just represent themselves?!?!? Badass Phrank helped himself to his inventory and even got hooked on his own supply as an agent/pimp. Its part of the game....

There have been a few times where a certain special whore-friend o fmine wanted/needed a few days away from her routine surroundings, and stayed at my burg_lair....naturally room and board was paid in blowjobs and gobbling.
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#390711 - 01/15/09 09:14 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Truer words never spoken.
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#390712 - 01/15/09 10:06 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Quote:





3.) does fucking skeeter like ANYBODY? i mean, besides me. {ha}





Yes! Any chick with a dick.
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#390713 - 01/18/09 12:57 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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I gotta call bullshit here.

I have had a couple of dealings with Mark, and I've interviewed a couple of his girls, and none of the girls I spoke with said one negative thing about Mark. The only thing that might possibly be construed as negative is that Mark puts up with very little shit from his girls. I can see how some PW's would find that a bad thing.

Also, this is a guy that didn't know me from Adam, and he went out of his way to help me out with a couple of interviews. He never asked for a nickel of compensation, he just asked that I be honest and professional.

Regarding everything Skeeter said, I really don't buy it. This is about the third explosion from him we've had in the last few months. He seems to be a bit of a drama magnet.

If Skeeter can produce this 'tape', I'll be awfully shocked.
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#390714 - 01/21/09 10:36 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Quote:

He seems to be a bit of a drama magnet...




Who? Skeeter??? He's the very picture of stability.

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#390715 - 01/21/09 09:43 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Does Skeeter have a 19-year-old son? http://www.lukeisback.com/?p=5325


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#390717 - 01/22/09 02:07 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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It's Skeeter related, current, and something I wanted to know. And I didn't think people would like another thread about Skeeter floating around.


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#390718 - 01/22/09 04:04 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Since when do we lend an ounce of credibility to anything Skeeter says? I gots mad love 4 Shylock!

I stole Skeeter's Blockbuster card... but the nigga got Netflix!
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#390719 - 01/22/09 04:27 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Since when do we lend an ounce of credibility to anything Skeeter says? I gots mad love 4 Shylock!

I stole Skeeter's Blockbuster card... but the nigga got Netflix!



Who me? I don't believe anything he says. I just wanted to know if he has a son.


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#390720 - 01/22/09 04:29 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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So did Skeeter every produce the BTS tape, or was he just talking trash?
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#390721 - 01/22/09 04:35 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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So did Skeeter every produce the BTS tape, or was he just talking trash?



Gene Ross never posted an update. So I guess there was never a tape.


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#390722 - 01/22/09 04:44 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Quote:

Quote:


So did Skeeter every produce the BTS tape, or was he just talking trash?



Gene Ross never posted an update. So I guess there was never a tape.




In the spirit of "Lame or Cool Guy" ... Lame.
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#390723 - 01/22/09 05:18 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Who me? I don't believe anything he says. I just wanted to know if he has a son.





He has said he has an older son. Go back to adultfyi and do more "research". And no he didn't produce the tape mentioned in the article about Spiegler, so apparently that was all a lie.

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#390724 - 01/23/09 04:57 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Inside the Spiegler mansion. Hugh Hefner, eat your fuckin heart out...










Do all apartments in the valley come furnished with porn whores? Can I get one furnished with Crystal Ray, Chanel Chavez and Judy Starr?

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#390725 - 02/16/09 02:00 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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#390726 - 02/16/09 02:02 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Awwwww...I'm on the Marie Luv bandwagon.
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#390727 - 02/16/09 07:25 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Dude that's my Sasha Grey photo on Mark's shirt! How the hell did he get that made?
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#390729 - 02/16/09 08:02 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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ooooooooh now this is getting good
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#390730 - 02/16/09 09:05 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Better call Porn Law, or if you'd like to win you better call someone decent.

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#390731 - 02/16/09 10:47 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Ssaha made those ... you should ask her about it. I think she is only giving them away to friends/fans. Mine was snatched away from me by crazed Sasha stalkers the second I entered my home after AEE>

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#390732 - 02/17/09 10:42 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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That guy looks half human/half animal.
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#390733 - 02/19/09 01:59 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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That guy looks half human/half animal.




Yeah, but all the girls who he has on his books say he's a really sweet, nice guy.

In other words they get jobs through him so they pretend they like him and he gets to touch women who would normally cross the street rather than walk past him.

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#390734 - 02/19/09 06:52 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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I envy him !
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#390735 - 02/20/09 09:04 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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That guy looks half human/half animal.




Yeah, but all the girls who he has on his books say he's a really sweet, nice guy.

In other words they get jobs through him so they pretend they like him and he gets to touch women who would normally cross the street rather than walk past him.




Every girl I spoke with actually seems to like him or at least respect him. I asked a couple about his fairly hardassed reputation and nobody would say a negative thing about him.

His stable of girls is pretty damn stellar and they all seem to be working a hell of a lot with very little drama. Whatever Mark's doing, I wish he'd bottle it and sell it.
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#390736 - 02/21/09 01:01 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Better call Porn Law, or if you'd like to win you better call someone decent.




Please-- I'm not going to sue Sasha. It's not like she's selling it and making a million dollars in proceeds-- I know she's asked about using that photo in the past, but I don't think it was for a t-shirt. I don't remember, but it's really not a big deal. I've let people use that image for a film festival poster in the past. I just want a shirt for myself!
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#390737 - 02/21/09 03:29 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Holly, you're so reasonable and sane. You know you work in porn, right?
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#390738 - 02/21/09 04:22 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Better call Porn Law, or if you'd like to win you better call someone decent.




Please-- I'm not going to sue Sasha. It's not like she's selling it and making a million dollars in proceeds-- I know she's asked about using that photo in the past, but I don't think it was for a t-shirt. I don't remember, but it's really not a big deal. I've let people use that image for a film festival poster in the past. I just want a shirt for myself!





I see all the influence of that jewish guy you used to be with has worn off.
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#390740 - 02/21/09 06:43 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Please-- I'm not going to sue Sasha.




... and it's not though Sasha couldn't make good easily by doing another photo shoot if needs be.

Just remind her that when you sell a photo to a client it is not cool for the client to later see that paid-for photo on T-shirts at a porn convention. She could put you in embarrassing situation if you didn't know what was going on.
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#390741 - 02/21/09 11:54 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Please-- I'm not going to sue Sasha.




... and it's not though Sasha couldn't make good easily by doing another photo shoot if needs be.

Just remind her that when you sell a photo to a client it is not cool for the client to later see that paid-for photo on T-shirts at a porn convention. She could put you in embarrassing situation if you didn't know what was going on.




I see your point but nobody owns the rights to that photo except for me. I own everything that I shoot (exceptions being whatever I shoot for Adam & Eve or Digital Playground, and the Hustler catalog that I shoot twice a year).
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#390742 - 02/23/09 01:31 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Inside the Spiegler mansion. Hugh Hefner, eat your fuckin heart out...











Annette Schwartz is not a citizen, so I can understand her not having a more permanent residence here. But why doesn't a grown woman like Adrianna Nicole (pictured with her) have her own place to stay?

She's got to be approaching 30. Why does she need to stay in a "talent house" with the young, naive porners?

If I lived in LA she could stay with me. Of course the price would be bi-monthly ass reamings and weekly BJs.


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#390743 - 02/23/09 01:43 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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#390744 - 02/24/09 11:38 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Quote:

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Inside the Spiegler mansion. Hugh Hefner, eat your fuckin heart out...











Annette Schwartz is not a citizen, so I can understand her not having a more permanent residence here. But why doesn't a grown woman like Adrianna Nicole (pictured with her) have her own place to stay?

She's got to be approaching 30. Why does she need to stay in a "talent house" with the young, naive porners?





The reason is because she, like many performers, don't live in LA but come out for a week every month or so to do a bunch of scenes.

Also, I found this interesting passage regarding Spiegler in Lorelei Lee's personal history:

Quote:

Spiegler was this father figure. We had curfew and he drove us everywhere. It was like being a teenager. All we did was work every day. Spiegler is this older man in his fifties and he is very controlling and I think he would be lonely if he didn?t have girls living in his house. But he approached it like a businessman. He would encourage us to work all the time. He said it was for our own benefit. If you don?t work people forget who you are. At the time I believed everything he said but later I started to think everything was for him. He was getting his cut but I don?t think that was it. We had this sort of weird disfunctional family going on and I think that was a huge part of it for Spiegler. But I don?t think there was anything sinister about him. He?s a sweet and lonely guy. He would never try to hit on us or anything like that. He looks the way you think a porn agent is going to look. He?s got a big belly and he?s always wearing these t-shirts that have funny sayings. He always said, ?I wouldn?t mess with the girls. It?s bad for business. Then they get jealous of each other. I have to lock my door at night. I?m scared of them.?


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#390745 - 02/24/09 02:29 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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I think Speigler is cool because a lot of his girls do IR. It's obvious he doesn't discourage them from taking those jobs like other agents do (Derek Hay, Shy Love).


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#390746 - 02/24/09 04:17 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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He always said, ?I wouldn?t mess with the girls. It?s bad for business. Then they get jealous of each other.




If he wasn't concerned about business, Mr Half Human/Half Woodchuck would be tapping all their asses daily. If he fucks one, the others get jealous. There's only so much short, phony jew to go around.
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#390747 - 02/25/09 12:13 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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So is Skeeter ever going to have a response to this latest fraud he has hoisted on everyone? How often does he get called on his lines of bullshit?
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#390748 - 02/25/09 12:38 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Mark looks like an even more disgusting version of El Duce.
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#390749 - 02/25/09 12:45 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Mark looks like an even more disgusting version of El Duce.




Ha...good call.

R.I.P Duce.


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#390750 - 02/25/09 01:34 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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So is Skeeter ever going to have a response to this latest fraud he has hoisted on everyone? How often does he get called on his lines of bullshit?




This one is about to take an interesting turn...
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#390751 - 02/25/09 08:48 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Do tell, Pornlaw. If you can hint around at it, surely you can shed a little more light on the situation.

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#390752 - 02/25/09 09:39 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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is he going to allege that he doesn't look half human / half woodchuck? he can't deny the charges! damn, jews love filing lawsuits. it's in their DNA.
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#390754 - 02/25/09 12:13 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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[ But why doesn't a grown woman like Adrianna Nicole (pictured with her) have her own place to stay?






Why do you assume she doesn't? Don't you ever have friends over to play?

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#390755 - 02/25/09 08:42 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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This one is about to take an interesting turn...




Why, oh why, would you choose to be the lawyer for one broke-ass motherfucker living in a squalid hovel (Spiegler) to "file a lawsuit" against some other broke-ass, illiterate and insane motherfucker (Kerkove) facing foreclosure(s)? What are the damages to reputation? And how is either of those two motherfuckers going to pay you?

If Spiegler had two nickels to rub together he'd buy some carpet cleaner, or a shirt with a collar on it. You've seen the photos, man.

I understand that being enmeshed in the world of porn has some advantages, like access to Vanessa Blue's anus, but come on dude! I like drugs and whores too, which is why I work for clients who can pay me, so I have money to spend on the drugs and whores.

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#390757 - 02/25/09 11:15 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Why, oh why, would you choose to be the lawyer for one broke-ass motherfucker living in a squalid hovel (Spiegler) to "file a lawsuit" against some other broke-ass, illiterate and insane motherfucker (Kerkove) facing foreclosure(s)? What are the damages to reputation? And how is either of those two motherfuckers going to pay you?





Not me... I get to watch this one from the sidelines. I try to chose defendants with cash flow.
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#390758 - 02/25/09 11:21 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Mark looks like an even more disgusting version of El Duce.




Or John Quade from Every Which Way But Loose.


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#390759 - 02/26/09 11:36 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Annette Schwartz is not a citizen, so I can understand her not having a more permanent residence here. But why doesn't a grown woman like Adrianna Nicole (pictured with her) have her own place to stay?

She's got to be approaching 30. Why does she need to stay in a "talent house" with the young, naive porners?




Crunk would know better, but Adrianna is from the Bay Area. I don't believe she has residence in LA.
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#390760 - 02/27/09 12:11 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Mark looks like an even more disgusting version of El Duce.




Or John Quade from Every Which Way But Loose.








you nailed it
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#390761 - 02/27/09 06:51 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Just re-read the title of this post. Is Skeeter upset that he had to give Spiegler a BJ or something ? Makes perfect sense.
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#390762 - 02/27/09 01:19 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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#390763 - 02/27/09 01:43 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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#390764 - 02/27/09 02:36 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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#390765 - 02/27/09 05:48 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Wouldn't it be awesome if this were to somehow actually go to trial (HIGHLY DOUBT) and then be televised on Court TV (or whatever it's called now)?
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#390766 - 02/28/09 07:02 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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You might get your wish for trial on this one, and your first four witnesses will be;

Jayna Oso, Melissa Lauren, Katja Kassin and Katsuni.
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#390767 - 02/28/09 07:38 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Of course there's always the possibility Skeeter produces the bts tape he said he had...

Where did the 3 million dollar amount come from Pornlaw? Not that Skeeter has the money but how does one arrive at that figure?

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#390770 - 02/28/09 10:00 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Of course there's always the possibility Skeeter produces the bts tape he said he had...

Where did the 3 million dollar amount come from Pornlaw? Not that Skeeter has the money but how does one arrive at that figure?




Yeah, the $3 mil is a little confusing... Sounds good in a PR though. I never ask for an amount in a complaint. It just isnt necessary. According to proof is all hes going to get anyway...

Quote:

What I want to see is if Skeeter mounts the following last ditch defense.

Unable to prove that any of the four women made the statements he claimed and faced with their statements to the contrary, Skeeter is forced to argue that his statement is not defamatory, because other agents in the valley (other then Spiegler) have an occasional "required sex" policy, everyone in the business knows this, therefore such an allegation would actually not hurt Spiegler's reputation among the hoes.




Yes, Skeeter's BTS is going to be interesting, if he really does have it. From the girls I have talked to about Mark, no one has ever said he had a forced BJ policy. Vanessa was even with Mark several years ago and he treated her with nothing but respect.

The control Mark has over his girls is complete though. Even more so that Derek use to have. I think thats were some of this may come from. If Speigler calls a girl and says "leave the party" - she leaves.

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#390771 - 02/28/09 10:12 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Even more so that Derek use to have. I think thats were some of this may come from. If Speigler calls a girl and says "leave the party" - she leaves.




Yeah, but alot of that comes with the Mafia Daddy reputation that Mark has, too, no?

He's a kick ass guy, on the numerous occasions I've run into him, but I've heard some intimidating tales from detractors. Fuck the haters.
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#390772 - 02/28/09 01:32 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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You might get your wish for trial on this one, and your first four witnesses will be;

Jayna Oso, Melissa Lauren, Katja Kassin and Katsuni.




At least two of the girls listed have publicly denied escorting contrary to mounds of evidence out there. How will that affect their credibility in court?
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#390775 - 03/01/09 01:38 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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It could be used to impeach their credibility if they deny it again when they are deposed.



Deposed? Exactly where is Skeeter going to get the money to pay a lawyer to depose someone?
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#390777 - 03/01/09 09:36 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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I fail to see the problem. Whores suck dick. Deal with it.

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#390778 - 03/02/09 02:43 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Right. And the story could benefit the rep of Mr Half Human/Half Woodchuck in some weird ways. I imagine him having sex with almost no one in his entire life because of his short/fat body and weird appearance. The story makes appear to not be totally sexless.
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#390779 - 03/03/09 08:52 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Pornlaw wrote

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Not me... I get to watch this one from the sidelines. I try to chose defendants with a big fat black ass that I might get to fuck




Isn't that how you got Vanessa?
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#390780 - 03/04/09 02:15 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Spiegler should be called "the Groundhog" because he seems like the less glamorous little brother of Ron "the Hedgehog" Jeremy. Spiegler is like the shorter, fatter, smaller dicked version. Luckily they were both blessed with those handsome jewish facial features that the babes are so crazy about.
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#390781 - 03/05/09 11:20 AM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Questions for the lawyers and fake lawyers out there:

1. Are AdultFYI and/or Ross named as co-defendants?
2. Didn't they publish a scandalous story to the world at large (presumably) without taking any steps to prove it was true through other sources?
3. What level of immunity do the 'press' have with defamation?
4. If they have any immunity at all, why wouldn't they set up an impecunious straw man as the source for all stories that might give rise to a claim in defamation?
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#390783 - 03/06/09 07:48 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Questions for the lawyers and fake lawyers out there:

1. Are AdultFYI and/or Ross named as co-defendants?
2. Didn't they publish a scandalous story to the world at large (presumably) without taking any steps to prove it was true through other sources?
3. What level of immunity do the 'press' have with defamation?
4. If they have any immunity at all, why wouldn't they set up an impecunious straw man as the source for all stories that might give rise to a claim in defamation?




1. No
2. Depends on your point of view, or who his lawyer is.
3. Depends on the person being defamed and other factors.
4. They would have to reveal their straw man or lack thereof in the discovery procress. No real benefit.

I dont agree with paperchase that Speigler is a public figure though. I really dont think NY Times applies here.
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#390784 - 05/15/09 06:29 AM Gene Ross retracts Spiegler/Skeeter story
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5/15/2009
05:17 AM PST

Spiegler Produces Four Declarations from His Clients--Gene Ross

Dear readers: On January 14, 2009, based on my conversations with Skeeter Kerkove, I reported that Mark Spiegler had an enforced blowjob policy with his female clients. Since that time I have had an opportunity to meet with Mr. Spiegler and review four declarations from his clients that were identified in my article. I have confirmed that Mr. Spiegler had no such policy and that Mr. Spiegler was wrongfully defamed by Mr. Kerkove. I made a mistake and Iím sorry for any damage that may have been caused by Mr. Kerkove falsely reporting the claim to me.





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#390785 - 03/04/10 12:44 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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#390786 - 03/04/10 03:41 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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One thing you have to say for Spiegler, if 2 of the supposed biggest shit heels around, DL and Skeeter, have problems w/ the guy, them most likely, he aint a shit heel.
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#390787 - 03/04/10 09:02 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Was it Farrakahan who said Jews are part rat? Speigler's face could be exhibit A.
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#390788 - 09/06/10 01:10 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Inside the Spiegler mansion. Hugh Hefner, eat your fuckin heart out...









Is the washing machine in the living room? He could spend a few extra dollars for a home with a laundry room so it doesn't pile up in his work space. If his whores would just bring and wear less clothes, they wouldn't have to tiptoe around piles of clothes on the floor.

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#390789 - 09/06/10 05:11 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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Inside the Spiegler mansion. Hugh Hefner, eat your fuckin heart out...









Is the washing machine in the living room? He could spend a few extra dollars for a home with a laundry room so it doesn't pile up in his work space. If his whores would just bring and wear less clothes, they wouldn't have to tiptoe around piles of clothes on the floor.




If the washing machine is in the living room then I would have to think it would not only conserve space but also to let the hookers know that they actually HAVE to wash their articles of clothing after each shoot so they dont have that nasty ass smell + jizz, etc before there next shoot or at any other appearance in public.

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#390790 - 09/06/10 10:46 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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wheres the mattress for that bed?
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#390791 - 09/07/10 12:59 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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wheres the mattress for that bed?





good eye.....THAT is the mattress....boxsprings costs extra $$$!!!!!

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#390792 - 09/07/10 02:37 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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I love Spiegs but I would go nuts living there. I have to live in a sparse environment free of clutter. I hate clutter so much, I don;t even like collecting things.
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#390793 - 09/07/10 06:07 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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I love Spiegs but I would go nuts living there. I have to live in a sparse environment free of clutter. I hate clutter so much, I don;t even like collecting things.




So I am guessing that "Hoarding: Buried Alive" on TLC is like watching the Rodney King beating for you.
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#390794 - 09/07/10 06:10 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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I love Spiegs but I would go nuts living there. I have to live in a sparse environment free of clutter. I hate clutter so much, I don;t even like collecting things.




So I am guessing that "Hoarding: Buried Alive" on TLC is like watching the Rodney King beating for TRITONE.




FIXED. But I actually get a kick out of watching Hoarders. And luckily I didn't have a tv at the time of the Rodney King situation. Human injustice bothers me.
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#390795 - 09/07/10 06:52 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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^^^^And I thought the couch was why you didn't like watching Brandon's product.
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#390796 - 09/07/10 11:38 PM Re: Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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is this from "This aint The Lord Of The Rings"?
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#390797 - 12/16/10 01:12 PM BREAKING NEWS: Spiegler awarded $85,355
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Mark Spiegler has been awarded $85,355 in damages from Skeeter Kerkove based on his statements in the Gene Ross story detailed above.

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#390798 - 12/16/10 01:27 PM Re: BREAKING NEWS: Spiegler awarded $85,355
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#390799 - 12/16/10 01:31 PM Re: BREAKING NEWS: Spiegler awarded $85,355
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I just asked Mark for a statement on this decision. His response: "Res ipsa loquitor."

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#390801 - 12/16/10 04:50 PM Re: BREAKING NEWS: Spiegler awarded $85,355
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This is an example of a defendant being too "smart" for his own good...





I can think of another potential defendant with the same hubris and the same c/w.

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#390802 - 12/16/10 04:56 PM Re: BREAKING NEWS: Spiegler awarded $85,355
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SK figured, "if he can't serve me, he can't sue me!"




i'll admit to not reading this whole goat-fuck of a thread but what makes teh skeeter "unservable"?. i thought convicted sex offenders had to register their addresses etc...

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I can think of another potential defendant with the same hubris and the same c/w.



please god..please. please let this happen, please let this happen...
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#390803 - 12/16/10 06:01 PM Re: BREAKING NEWS: Spiegler awarded $85,355
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^^^Hypothetically speaking, of course.

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#390807 - 12/20/10 11:02 PM Re: BREAKING NEWS: Spiegler awarded $85,355
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Normally when faced with a slippery respondent isn't it customary to serve process through a number of means? Nail-and-mail plus publication, for example?

Anyway, it's immaterial. I'd be stunned if any of Skeeter Kerkove's many "investment properties" were above water on their mortgages (Skeeter strikes me as the 120% LTV, cash-back-at-closing kind of "investor") so they're worthless as enforcement targets. The only fun to be had will be in taking away his car.

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#390809 - 12/22/10 07:02 AM Re: BREAKING NEWS: Spiegler awarded $85,355
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Well presumably one would seize and auction the property. Remember, Spiegler's got a civil judgment in hand.

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#609548 - 04/20/14 06:50 PM Re: BREAKING NEWS: Spiegler awarded $85,355 [Re: Anonymous]
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Some anonymous person was reading this and it got me wondering if Spiegs ever collected on this. He's a good guy and if there were ever a pound o'flesh that were deserved, this would be it.

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#609568 - 04/21/14 02:40 PM Re: BREAKING NEWS: Spiegler awarded $85,355 [Re: Anonymous]
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I'm told Spiegler did collect some money but not the entire judgment.
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#610299 - 05/09/14 10:24 PM Re: BREAKING NEWS: Spiegler awarded $85,355 [Re: Anonymous]
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Who did Spiegs use for representation?

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