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#352581 - 08/15/08 02:55 PM Margold speaks on Max
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I'm not a huge fan of Mr. Little, but Bill Margold has to be the most hypocritical cocksucker in the biz. Who the fuck made him 'president of porn'?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQcVJ3eDTLM
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#352582 - 08/15/08 03:38 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Even though porn is supposedly just a small group of people…..I think that just like…..[cough]….high school there are some individuals who have or belong to separate “cliques”.

I think people should wake up….it is not the beginning of porn neither the golden age as well…etc, etc. Porn has expanded quite rapidly and as such has a lot of splinter groups within.

Margold…is of the “older” crowd….he begets the listen and respect your elders bullshit routine….perhaps he could be even mentioned in a statement using words like “old guard”.

There should be a mandatory retirement age in ALL of porn….at least 10 over the federal minimum…..since none of these fools have a 401k. :2cents:

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#352583 - 08/15/08 03:42 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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I agree with everything Bill said.

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#352584 - 08/15/08 03:44 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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You're also half retarded so what does that prove?
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#352585 - 08/15/08 03:48 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Quote:

I agree with everything Bill said.




You probably also bought everything you heard from the lame duck admin on the reasons we are in the middle east currently....

Like the famous quote goes....
"There’s is a sucker born every minute"

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#352586 - 08/15/08 04:20 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Quote:

I agree with everything Bill said.




You also believe everything Shelley Lubben says. How many WalMart cards has she sent you?

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#352587 - 08/15/08 04:31 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Walmart cards? There isn't a Walmart in sight where I live. And I've never given anyone online my address. So no gifts from Shelley. But she says she prays for me. BTW, I told Shelley I'm against the porn tax and I told her my reasons. I like what she does in helping the girls who need the help and seek it out. None of you are doing it. I'm against her hatred for the entire industry but I fully support her in helping the girls.

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#352588 - 08/15/08 04:52 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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And you believe that she's helping these girls with these WalMart cards.

I've got the crowbar standing by whenever you're ready.

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#352589 - 08/15/08 04:55 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Jim B., don't forget that Shelly raped Gia and gave her a $40 Walmart card.
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#352590 - 08/15/08 04:59 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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Publicly, previously posted by Shelley.



An evangelical millionaire tied to the beer business? Now that one I haven’t heard. Some of you assume much about me but have never taken the time to get to know me. Do you have any idea how much hard work and commitment it takes to help porn stars rebuild their lives after porn? Just think about that. Wait, don’t just think about it, go do it and then let me know what you think about me then. It is VERY hard work. I have loved until it hurts. My whole family has loved those in the industry and invited them in our home to live, we have cared for them while they are sick, loved them even when they lie to us, helped them find safer places to live, reunited them with their family members, visited them in jail, helped them find jobs, driven down to the Valley from Bakersfield to take them to dinner only to have some of them not show up and yet we STILL keep trying to reach them and love them. And donations, I get very little donations compared to other ministries. You really think a bunch of churches want to support an ex porn star who helps porn stars? Think again. I do this because I LOVE people in the porn industry and truly believe all of you are made for something better. I really mean that. I do ask for donations on my web site because it DOES cost money to run a foundation and help people. I do speak a few times a year to cause awareness and receive an honorarium which helps to support my work. But I am a Mom of three and can’t travel around to have some big evangelist ministry. I work mainly at home. I raise my kids and care for my family. I reach out to porn stars through the internet and on the phone. I drive down to San Fernando Valley to meet women who want my help. You don’t really know me. But if you look closer you will see who I really am. By the way, the main donor of my outreach is not some millionaire but my hardworking husband. My husband works 60-70 hours a week as a medical sales rep who drives about 1000 miles a week to support his wife so she can stay home, raise our children and help porn stars and sex workers. There, now you know a little more about the Lubben Family. We love you no matter what you think of us.

I haven’t worked with xxxchurch on the Esther Fund for a year. I started my own non-profit public charity called Pink Cross Foundation. I really feel I understand the needs of sex workers more than those who haven’t been in the sex industry so this is the main reason why I started my own organization. XXXChurch has different ideas about how to help porn stars than I do. I didn’t feel comfortable with some of them so my hubby and I started Pink Cross Foundation.
But it’s all good. I’m glad so many people are reaching out to the porn industry. God bless!



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#352591 - 08/15/08 05:04 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Anonymous
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And you believe this tripe?

::goes rummaging through attic for clerical collar from three halloweens ago::

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#352592 - 08/15/08 05:06 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Fenris Offline
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Has anyone talked to Max? How's he doing? I can't say I'm a massive fan of his work but it's got to suck pretty hard getting railroaded like he is.

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#352593 - 08/15/08 06:05 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Quote:

There isn't a Walmart in sight where I live.




Excatly in what 3th world country do you live in? I understand that they have Wal-Mart in


  • Baghdad Green Zone
  • Somalia Bakaara Market
  • South Darfur

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#352594 - 08/15/08 06:11 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Jesus fucking Christ; probably one of the better potential threads in a while and Darrah's already POISONING it with re-hashed Shelley Lubben posts. STOP BAITING THIS STUPID BITCH, please!!


Anyway. I've always had a soft spot for Margold though he can be particularly bat shit crazy sometimes with his views (especially for someone who I really can't think of a "real" accomplishment in a decade or so besides his work with PAW...and when was the last time you heard about that org besides from Margold? If he did his job right he could become a total foil to a retard like Shelley Lubben.)

But one line particularly caught me:
"The lawyers who feed off of him want to keep him in just enough trouble to keep him spending money, and when he's out of money they'll abandon him. Eventually he'll make a plea bargain and go away."

That's always been my view. Someone finally said it.
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#352595 - 08/15/08 07:06 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Quote:

You're also half retarded so what does that prove?


Oh boy it's the 15th already, that went toooooo fucking fast, she's backkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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#352596 - 08/15/08 07:13 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Quote:


Oh boy it's the 15th already, that went toooooo fucking fast, she's backkkkkkkkkkkkkk




Gypsy, I see you dressed for the occasion:


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#352597 - 08/15/08 10:54 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Quote:

"The lawyers who feed off of him want to keep him in just enough trouble to keep him spending money, and when he's out of money they'll abandon him. Eventually he'll make a plea bargain and go away."

That's always been my view. Someone finally said it.




Then you are as "bat shit crazy" as Margold is. Max didnt plea, he stood is ground and lost. Thats a decision he made on his own. The day of the verdict I talked to Jeffrey, he was a wreck. He cares... he is not the type to bleed a client. Not saying it doesnt happen with other lawyers, thats just not Jeff.
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#352598 - 08/16/08 08:01 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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It wrote:

Quote:

Blah, blah, blah... I like what she does in helping the girls who need the help and seek it out. None of you are doing it.




No, indeed. I'm not helping any girls that want to leave the porn industry. I rather spend my time, energy and money on people who are in a much worse situation and are willing and able to take the first few steps themselves, instead of being coaxed into some religion-based program.

Besides, you're pointing to other people, but I haven't seen anything from you regarding getting girls help. Your gossip site isn't exactly helping either.
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#352599 - 08/16/08 11:32 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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I disagree with William Margold. I think if Max Hardcore crossed the line with actresses and did things against
their will, the actresses should report him to the police. The Bush administration is going after more extreme
material because it is easier to get prosecutions.

It is does not mean their prosecutions will stop if they
can force Hardcore, Robert Black's Extreme Associates and Evil Angel out of business. Darrah does not see the big picture. Tricia Devereaux knows what a jerk Robert Black
is. He was her boyfriend in the 1990s for months. Tricia
has said that Hardcore and Black should not prosecuted for obscenity.
Jamie Gardner

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#352600 - 08/16/08 03:29 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Tricia has said that Hardcore and Black should not [be] prosecuted for obscenity. - Jamie Gardner




FLOP #1, Mr. Gardner! Beware!
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#352601 - 08/16/08 08:24 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Quote:

Quote:


Oh boy it's the 15th already, that went toooooo fucking fast, she's backkkkkkkkkkkkkk




Gypsy, I see you dressed for the occasion:





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#352602 - 08/16/08 08:26 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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Quote:

I think if Max Hardcore crossed the line with actresses and did things against
their will, the actresses should report him to the police.



And what exactly would be done? The police thumbing their nose down at the girl because of what she does for a living. I've read the Myspace blogs of a few of the girls that have worked with Hardcore and they said in detail the shit he put them through. Either they didn't know who he was or they told him exactly what they would do and not do but he did what he wanted with the girl screaming for him to stop which he never did. Hardcore has money and he's a man. So the police don't care. Asher and countless others never saw the inside of a jail cell except for Skeeter.

A judge told a prostitute months ago that her rape was her fault and her jon should sue for services lost or some crazy shit like that. She was viciously raped and it was videotaped and the judge told her it was her fault because of her job.

Read on a forum somewhere a former porn star asking for legal advice. She was viciously raped, beaten, kicked, held hostage, and repeatedly raped for days. She went on a date with a guy and later told him what she used to do and then he did all that to her. She still needs surgeries and other medical procedures because of the damage he did to her and her back.

A few female porn stars have been raped on set that I know of. But people like on this board keep on saying whores lie. Gia does porn and if she came on here and said that she was raped, the men who kiss her ass here wouldn't believe her or they just wouldn't care. To most of the men on here, the performers are just a pile of garbage and the shit from their dog's ass is worth more than she.



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#352603 - 08/16/08 09:29 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Quote:

I've read the Myspace blogs of a few of the girls that have worked with Hardcore and they said in detail the shit he put them through




have any links to those?
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#352604 - 08/16/08 10:01 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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A few female porn stars have been raped on set that I know of. But people like on this board keep on saying whores lie. Gia does porn and if she came on here and said that she was raped, the men who kiss her ass here wouldn't believe her or they just wouldn't care. To most of the men on here, the performers are just a pile of garbage and the shit from their dog's ass is worth more than she.




Darrah, If I was raped, I'd go to the police immediately and later talk to an attorney instead of fucking blogging about it.
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#352605 - 08/16/08 10:01 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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There are police and judges who don't believe porn actresses and prostitutes but that is not true of all of them. I'm sure there are many law enforcement people who would use any excuse to go after a pornographer. How many porn actresses have ever gone to the police to tell them bad things Max
Hardcore did to them? There is a difference between an actresses telling about bad experiences with Max Hardcore and actually going to the authorities to try to get him prosecuted.
Jamie Gardner

Jay Allen Sanford, the former publisher of Carnal Comics,
has written about Marylin Star's experience working with Max Hardcore: Ladies speaking OFF the record tend to be more honest, and most any porn star I ever knew was at least uncomfortable about what Max does, if not downright disturbed. One odd exception, at first anyways, was Marylyn Star, who seemed anxious to work with Max during the brief period we dated, but only because she had a yen to change her reputation from soft Vivid-type beauty to "gonzo" star. She wanted to land a bunch of work all at once and put together a bankroll to finance a planned business endeavors
(she'd never even filmed an anal scene up until them). I've seen her "Max" scene and she acts like she's enjoying it, she's a very good actress, but I also talked to her that same night she filmed it and she was VERY upset and angry and even considering going to the emergency room, her body was so torn up from the twin speculums, etc. She thought
somebody who owns gyno tools oughta at least know how to
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#352606 - 08/16/08 10:27 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Gia, do you know of any female porn stars or anyone woman in the adult filed that has been raped and her case be taken seriously which lead to the rapist being convicted? The women who don't go to the police are the ones who know her case will not be taken seriously. It might be taken serious if she's a school teacher or a housewive. Most in your industry support Max and raise money for others being indicted on obscenity but barely anything has been done to help the girls who need legal assistance. You say now you would go to the police. But I doubt you would.

Many of the women in the industry make excuses for the men because they want to continue being employed by these men. Monique Alexander threw her best friend under the bus so she can have a nice cushy position at Vivid. Then Monique goes on the porn debate saying she feels no sympathy for any women who has it bad in porn. Let's see what happens to that cunt when Asher gets tired of her.

Belladonna was gangraped on set by 10 or 12 but she's ridiculed for "putting down porn". Her first year in porn and she being told it was going to be one way but she shows up and it's something completely different. She tries to leave but is threatened if she leaves. I remember hearing she never did drugs until after what happened. Yes she's a huge star now but at what price? Most in porn still hate her for that interview but Max Hardcore, Khan Tusion, Derek Hay, and Rob Black are somehow fucking heroes.





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#352607 - 08/16/08 10:29 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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#352608 - 08/16/08 11:40 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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Thank you! That's one of them I read.


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#352609 - 08/16/08 11:58 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
carnalcomics Offline
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Quote:


Belladonna was gangraped on set by 10 or 12 but she's ridiculed for "putting down porn". Her first year in porn and she being told it was going to be one way but she shows up and it's something completely different. She tries to leave but is threatened if she leaves. I remember hearing she never did drugs until after what happened. Yes she's a huge star now but at what price? Most in porn still hate her for that interview but Max Hardcore, Khan Tusion, Derek Hay, and Rob Black are somehow fucking heroes.




Belladonna is not claiming she was gangraped. She knew she
was hired to do a gangbang. She has expressed regret for
agreeing to do the gangbang. Belladonna could have said
no to Christopher Alexander.

Aurora Snow has said Christopher Alexander was persistent in trying to talk her in to doing anal for the first time. Aurora does not claim Christopher forced her to do anal. People need to take responsiblity for their own actions.

Have you seen Gang Bang Girl 29? Do you see any guys forcefully holding Belladonna down? Do you see Belladonna trying to push guys away? Do you hear Belladonna say that the guys should stop having sex with her?

Would Christopher have Belladonna raped in front of so many witnesses? There are 12 guys in the gangbang. Would that many porn actors take part in a gangrape of Belladonna? I think you have been reading too much propaganda from Shelley Lubben?
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#352610 - 08/17/08 12:27 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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She said in that interview she was expecting one regular sex scene. She was coerced and forced. She left crying and went back home to her parents.

After she didn't get a contract with VCA, she got a deal with Elegant Angel and they flew her out to Prague with a starring role in a feature. Once again, she's being abused by another company and more men. That what was done to her, none of it was scripted or suggested by the director. It didn't even end up in the final version of the video. She was shaking after and upset after what they did to her. They interviewed her after what they did to her.

Bella never did drugs before porn. But with all the abuse from the companies and men she worked with, she started doing drugs and would also be high during her scenes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBtLst3espU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UriHw41mIAY&feature=related

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#352611 - 08/17/08 12:29 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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#352612 - 08/17/08 12:52 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Stevie Why Offline
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Jesus, I look around all day waiting to respond looking for that damn picture of Jeffrey Douglas in that stupid Mickey Mouse tie...

And now its a debate between Darrah and Carnal Comix.
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#352613 - 08/17/08 01:01 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Quote:

She said in that interview she was expecting one regular sex scene. She was coerced and forced. She left crying and went back home to her parents.

After she didn't get a contract with VCA, she got a deal with Elegant Angel and they flew her out to Prague with a starring role in a feature. Once again, she's being abused by another company and more men. That what was done to her, none of it was scripted or suggested by the director. It didn't even end up in the final version of the video. She was shaking after and upset after what they did to her. They interviewed her after what they did to her.

Bella never did drugs before porn. But with all the abuse from the companies and men she worked with, she started doing drugs and would also be high during her scenes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBtLst3espU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UriHw41mIAY&feature=related






edit: seriously, those vids are hot as hell.

edit2: HOLY SHIT, they bring in her mother and she cries, blaming herself for what happened to her daughter.

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#352614 - 08/17/08 01:21 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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Yeah, rape porn is always so hot. The girl is so destroyed and worse off than when she first started. Then she becomes a drug addict and has STDs. She makes pennies while the pencil pushers make millions. When those pencil pushers then get brought up on obscenity chaarges, let's then throw a pity party for them and help raise money for them even though they are already multi-millionaires and can afford their own defense.

Let's reward the male criminals in porn. Let's give Marc Wallice, who knowingly infected women with HIV, more directing jobs. While his victims, except for one, have to struggle to make money to pay for the HIV medications. Let's hail Max Hardcore a fucking martyr when he's nothing more than a Larry Flynt wannabe.

Let's also watch the female talent be murdered but do nothing to keep those abusers off the sets and try to get the girl away from him before he murders her. At least the Family of X wasn't celebrating her death the way they did Savannah. They were already calling everyone saying she was dead and "bang bang the witch is dead" even though she hadn't died yet and was still on life support.

Let's also raise more money for the male talent and pencil pushers in porn but do nothing to help Violet Blue. She didn't have the money to hire the lawyers to save her name and website, the primary source of her income, because that cunt "Violet Blue" sued and didn't tell the real Violet Blue about the lawsuit ahead of time giving her notice.

Ain't life grande?



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#352615 - 08/17/08 01:54 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Stevie Why Offline
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Quote:

Yeah, rape porn is always so hot. The girl is so destroyed and worse off than when she first started. Then she becomes a drug addict and has STDs. She makes pennies while the pencil pushers make millions. When those pencil pushers then get brought up on obscenity chaarges, let's then throw a pity party for them and help raise money for them even though they are already multi-millionaires and can afford their own defense.

Let's reward the male criminals in porn. Let's give Marc Wallice, who knowingly infected women with HIV, more directing jobs. While his victims, except for one, have to struggle to make money to pay for the HIV medications. Let's hail Max Hardcore a fucking martyr when he's nothing more than a Larry Flynt wannabe.

Let's also watch the female talent be murdered but do nothing to keep those abusers off the sets and try to get the girl away from him before he murderes her. At least the Family of X wasn't celebrity her death the way they did Savannah. They were already calling everyone saying she was dead and "bang bang the witch is dead" even though she hadn't died yet and was still on life support.

Let's also raise more money for the male talent and pencil pushers in porn but do nothing to help Violet Blue. She didn't have the money to hire the lawyers to safe her name and website, the primary source of her income, because that cunt "Violet Blue" sued and didn't tell the real Violet Blue about the lawsuit ahead of time giving her notice.

Ain't life grande?







Was this in response to something, or are you looking for another week in The Penalty Box?
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#352616 - 08/17/08 02:00 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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Quote:

Was this in response to something, or are you looking for another week in The Penalty Box?




Quote:



edit: seriously, those vids are hot as hell.



And don't threaten me either.

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#352617 - 08/17/08 06:20 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
MoronBoy Offline
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Quote:

Thank you! That's one of them I read.




I knew about that one. I'm the one who found it, and the porn bloggers picked it up from my link to it on here[/patting-myself-on the-back]

You said you have seen a few blogs of whores complaining about stuff like this. Meaning, you know, more than 1. Where are they?
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#352618 - 08/17/08 06:22 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Anonymous
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Quote:


A judge told a prostitute months ago that her rape was her fault and her jon should sue for services lost or some crazy shit like that.





Link please, Edwina?

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#352619 - 08/17/08 07:00 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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Meaning, you know, more than 1. Where are they?



It was a while ago and I forgot and can't even recall who the women are. I usually have trouble with mixing up names.

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#352620 - 08/17/08 07:02 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Anonymous
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Quote:

I usually have trouble with mixing up fact, fiction and delusion.




Fixed.

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#352621 - 08/17/08 07:09 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Quote:


Belladonna was gangraped on set by 10 or 12 but she's ridiculed for "putting down porn".





Putting 10 or 12 baseball bats up your ass does not qualify as a gang rape.
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#352622 - 08/17/08 07:11 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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Quote:




Link please, Edwina?




Read the entire thing, not just snippets.

when-is-rape-at-gunpoint-not-rape-when-its-theft-of-services/

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#352623 - 08/17/08 07:13 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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It is rape when she was told one thing but showed up and it was something completely different. But you know that misogynist.

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#352624 - 08/17/08 07:52 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
pornlaw Offline
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Quote:

She didn't have the money to hire the lawyers to save her name and website, the primary source of her income, because that cunt "Violet Blue" sued and didn't tell the real Violet Blue about the lawsuit ahead of time giving her notice.




Ummm... Violet Blue called me about helping her out with the lawsuit and I told her I would do it on a contingency basis... She had an option...

But please dont let facts get in the way of a good story. Fiction writers never do.
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#352625 - 08/17/08 08:22 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Smell of Anus Offline
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Quote:

It is rape when she was told one thing but showed up and it was something completely different. But you know that misogynist.




Um... no. How the fuck would that constitute rape? If a guy invites you over to dinner (poor guy!) and you expect him to want to sit and hold your hand while you cry about your father issues, while he expects to fuck you up the ass (poor guy!) he has not committed rape when you step into his place. If he puts his cock into your ass (poor guy!) even though you say no then he has raped you (just like your father, poor guy!).

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#352626 - 08/17/08 08:23 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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I read it at AVN.

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#352627 - 08/17/08 08:28 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Anonymous
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Quote:



Read the entire thing, not just snippets.





Funny. Your "sources'" links to the PA Judicial Conduct Board and the Philly Bar Assn don't link to any complaints, just their home pages. And the links to the Philadelphia Daily News are all dead. Great work, Edwina.

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#352628 - 08/17/08 08:29 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Anonymous
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Quote:

I read it at AVN.





Link please, Edwina?

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#352629 - 08/17/08 08:29 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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I was in a rush and posted the first thing I found about that case. But you asked for a link to a case I heard about on the news. I provided a link. Case closed.


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#352630 - 08/17/08 08:30 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Anonymous
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Quote:

Case closed.







In your dreams, Edwina.

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#352631 - 08/17/08 08:32 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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#352632 - 08/17/08 08:33 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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What do you care? You don't care about any of those women. They're all whores to you, remember.


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#352633 - 08/17/08 08:35 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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Just because the links are dead doesn't mean the source is lying. It might mean the date has expired for that article. Yahoo articles expire in a matter of weeks I've noticed. Or as in the case of certain people in porn, the articles were taken down due to pressure or loss of ad revenue. In that case, the whore judge can get the articles pulled if she knows which people to harass.


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#352634 - 08/17/08 08:35 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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What do you care? You don't care about any of those women. They're all whores to you, remember.






That may be true, but to you they're nothing but chess pieces in your internal struggle to come to terms with your abusive father. Don't for a second believe that you care about these women in any other way than we care about them. We play different games, but the torn up sluts are nothing but pawns to all of us. Including you, Darrah.

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#352635 - 08/17/08 08:37 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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I'm sure the women on here, including the PW's, will like reading what you have to say.


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#352636 - 08/17/08 08:39 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Anonymous
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Quote:

What do you care? You don't care about any of those women. They're all whores to you, remember.






Quote:

the whore judge can get the articles pulled if she knows which people to harass.







Res Ipsa Loquitor.

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#352637 - 08/17/08 08:44 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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Quote:




Res Ipsa Loquitor.



So you've had problems with judges and law enforcement?


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#352638 - 08/17/08 08:59 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Anonymous
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No. Your sanctimonious railing against the word "Whore" speaks for itself when you use it to denounce a judge you disagree with, especially when you can't properly source the complaints or the original article.

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#352639 - 08/17/08 09:04 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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The judge is a worthless cunt whore for siding with the rapists. I gave you a link. It's not my problem the links are dead. I went to check an article on my blog I got at AVN a couple of months ago and it's been deleted there. Is that my problem that they or any source deleted their original source? And don't bitch to me about using the word whore when that's your favorite word to describe any woman.




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#352640 - 08/17/08 09:07 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Anonymous
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So it's OK for YOU to use the word whore, but not anybody else? Facinating.

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#352641 - 08/17/08 09:18 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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When it's appropriate. All of you call every porn girl a porn whore. And porn whores all lie. Whose a whore? Jenna Jameson or Paris Hilton? Paris Hilton. Whose a whore? The prostitute who was gangraped or the judge? The judge. The same judge who didn't care that the same rapist raped another prostitute days later. Because rapists only rape prostitutes but not housewives, school teachers, or judges right?

Fuck you cunt. It's not my problem that your parents gave you away and you were raised by your adoptive parents who you say were psychotic. Stop taking out your frustrations and inadequacies out on me. Can't believe I've wasted the morning on you fuckers.

I said on here last week I was leaving this fucking forum but was waiting for something to be done first. I stopped coming here except to send messages. Two days later I was banned for a week for doing less than what others have done here but were never banned. So here I'm back again assholes and I'm not leaving anymore!



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#352642 - 08/17/08 09:29 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Jigaloo Offline
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#352643 - 08/17/08 09:31 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Quote:

So here I'm back again assholes and I'm not leaving anymore!



at 1:25

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#352644 - 08/17/08 09:39 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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Another threat? Yawn.



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#352645 - 08/17/08 10:03 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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#352646 - 08/17/08 10:05 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Jigaloo Offline
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#352647 - 08/17/08 10:11 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
carnalcomics Offline
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There have been x-rated actresses who have spoken or
written favorably about working with Max Hardcore. Regan Starr says Max Hardcore "talks to me like a human being and like I have brains." Regan Starr speaks favorably of Max hardcore but has said negative things about her scene in Rough Sex 2 (directed by Khan Tusion).
Jamie Gardner

Kim Chambers: I didn't know what to expect when I first started. My experience with Max was a good one. He's an unusual character, but Max is Max ;-)
http://www.supersphere.com/MediaMix/Article.html?ID=INTERVIEW_KIM

Mila: Max was ok. He's a weird guy...he doesn't fuck that great and his dick is small.. but he has that white trash, alcoholic looking, wife-beating and village-raiding demeanor that people want to see. When I met the guys at Dangerboy....they all are sicker than Max..
http://www.supersphere.com/MediaMix/Article.html?ID=INTERVIEW_MILA

Regan Starr: He would never do anything to me that I didn't want him to do. There was nothing in those films that I wouldn't do for someone else. Max is the type of person who will go with what you are feeling. He may ask kinky things of you, but he will not intentionally beat you or hurt you emotionally without a very strong indication that he is acting.
http://www.rogreviews.com/interviews/Regan_Starr.asp

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#352648 - 08/17/08 10:35 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Smell of Anus Offline
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Quote:









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#352649 - 08/17/08 11:06 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
carnalcomics Offline
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Porn Director Jimmy D wrote an article about my defending Vince Voyeur and Eric Everhard in relation to Corina Taylor claiming she was raped on the set of Cum Drippers 6. Jimmy D
made fun of me in his article.
Jamie Gardner

REGARDING CORINA TAYLOR: WHO THE FUCK IS JAMIE RALPH GARDNER?
http://web.archive.org/web/20040809230417/http://www.simplyjimmyd.com/

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#352650 - 08/17/08 11:11 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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Why were you defending them?

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#352651 - 08/17/08 11:26 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Jigaloo Offline
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Why are you such a stupid bitch?
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#352652 - 08/17/08 02:10 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
carnalcomics Offline
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I do believe that T.T. Boy has been violent to women
when they did not want him to be. For the I Love It Rough
2 DVD (Platinum X Pictures), Brandon Iron did interviews with Max Hardcore, Rocco Siffredi, John Stagliano and Tricia Devereaux. On the DVD, Tricia speaks about her 2nd sexual scene as a sexual performer.

In a Joey Silvera movie, Tricia worked with T.T. Boy. He kept choking Tricia even though she told him to stop. Tricia slapped T.T. boy and Joey told T.T. Boy to stop doing things that Tricia did not want him to do. I have never read about any porn actress complaining about Joey Silvera even though he has made rough sex scenes as a director. If the government is allowed to prosecute people like Max Hardcore for obscenity, others will be prosecuted who know how to make rough sex scenes without them getting out of control.

Nina Hartley's website used to have a forum. Nina told of an incident with T.T. Boy on one of the Sorority Sex Kitten movies.
Jamie Gardner

Nina Hartley: I met up with him in the makeup room, and
I playfully spanked his ass through his jeans. Really,
just a little tap. I'm sure he barely felt it. He said,"What about me?" so I turned my ass toward him, expecting a little playful tap in return. Instead, he coiled his body like the boxer he is, and hit my ass so hard it left a full hand print on my ass cheek, even though I was wearing a thin cotton robe. Mark Kernes took a photo of it.

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#352653 - 08/17/08 02:17 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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I've heard of TT Boy being an alleged rapist for years. He even called porn legalized rape in a Details magazine interview I believe. And screaming, hitting, choking, and dragging the girls while everyone around him is screaming for him to stop. Why they don't jump the bastard I don't know. I also heard about one of those lifetime achievement awards he was suppose to get years ago. He almost didn't get it because of him being an alleged rapist. But they gave it to him anyway. But Tera Patrick said a rape scene she had with him in a video was the best sex she ever had......at that time.


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#352654 - 08/17/08 02:35 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
freestylah Offline
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I've heard....

Jeff/Tony, please.
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#352655 - 08/17/08 11:41 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
carnalcomics Offline
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When it comes it comes to rape, the gang rape scene with Jodie Foster in the Accused movie is what I consider to be someone being raped. Her character is being held down so she can't escape. Jodie's character is screaming for the guys to stop raping her. The scene in the Accused movie is based on a real life incident. The difference is that Jodie's character goes after the people who cheered whereas the real life person only tried to get the actual rapists punished.

I had a friend who was a stripper, prostitute and porn actress. She had a boyfriend who was also her pimp. He had her drugged and tied up. He invited everyone he knew to come
over and rape her. She was rescued but she was injured from what was done to her. She was anally raped as well.

She forgave the guy and the rapists. She said she could look in his eyes and see that he was sorry for what he did to her. She told me that when she was angry with him, she would have sex with his friends. She blamed her self for the rape that happened to her.

I think you use the word rape too loosely when you use it to describe Belladonna's gang bang. If Belladonna had a problem with doing the sex scene, she should not have agreed to do it. Christopher Alexander did not hold a gun to her head.

This does not relate to Belladonna but Jack Hill, the Director, has a cheerleader in the Swinging Cheerleaders movie who claims she is gang raped. In the DVD's audio commentary, Jack Hill is interviewed by Johnny legend.

Johnny Legend: At this point, is her main problem the fact that she is stoned?

Jack Hill: No, this would be very, very non-PC today because she's just been gangbanged and everybody's seeing what a horrible thing it is and yet she herself - . Well, I won't comment.

Johnny Legend: Well I'll say that you can because everybody's watching this from an analytical point of view, seeing it seperate from the experience of seeing the film.

Jack Hill: OK. From a cold scholarily point of view, without any involvement of the emotions. Yes, I felt justified in doing it because I actually observed it to happen. I wasn't a participant mind you.

Johnny Legend: The fact that she was involved in a multiple sex experience

Jack Hill: I have seen women involved in a multiple sex experience who enjoyed it throughly.

Johnny Legend: Yeah, so did I.

Jack Hill: But wouldn't admit to it later.

Johnny Legend: I have even seen situations where they would
be responsible for setting it in motion and you would be subject to ridicule if you tried to be standoffish about it,
which is kind of unusual.

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#352656 - 08/18/08 08:18 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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What's wrong with telling the girl everything that will be done? Because most girls would never agree to it. Belladonna was told one thing but something completely different happened. She consented and being payed for one thing. But something else happened that she never agreed to.





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#352657 - 08/18/08 08:22 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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#352658 - 08/18/08 10:48 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Soopergrizz Offline
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Posts: 3724
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Quote:

I was in a rush and posted the first thing I found about that case. But you asked for a link to a case I heard about on the news. I provided a link. Case closed.






I try not to get involved in this whole Darrah thing since you folks seem to have the matter well in hand.

I would like to clarify, for Darrah's sake, that the reason people ask for a link is not to see if you know how to make a hyperlink, but to see if there is any factual basis to your story. Bearing the above in mind, a dead link is the same as no link (and might just be worse)

That's not really doing anything to help your credibility. Re-read the posts from CarnalComics - that's how you source your work - even on the internet.

I have no doubt that you will continue to rant and rave about how misogynist, racist and cruel we all are, but you're the one that's claiming the moral highground of being a journalist (or a blogger, which is 'journalism lite'). That said, continuing your wild accusations for which you claim support from manufactured 'dead link' sources will get you in all kinds of trouble - and I don't mean getting banned from the sandbox.

What are you going to say when you get sued for defamation - "I properly sourced my story, but I can't find the sources now - trust me?"

I still think you're a Smelly Monkey Alt-Id, but this is really getting ridiculous.


Edited by Soopergrizz (08/18/08 11:01 AM)
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#352659 - 08/19/08 10:19 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
carnalcomics Offline
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Quote:

What's wrong with telling the girl everything that will be done? Because most girls would never agree to it. Belladonna was told one thing but something completely different happened. She consented and being payed for one thing. But something else happened that she never agreed to.




I believe Belladonna did know what she was agreeing to do.
According to ABC Primetime, Belladonna was paid $4,000 to do Gang Bang Girl 29.
http://www.lukeisback.com/stars/stars/belladonna.htm
The gangbang with 12 guys was not her first gangbang with guys. She had sex with 5 guys in Gangbang Auditions 6 (Production date: 02/07/2001). In this gangbang, she did anal and double penetration.
http://www.cavr.com/w00a7297.htm
Months later, Belladonna had the gangbang with 12 guys
Gangbang Girl 29 (Production date: 06/18/2001)
http://www.cavr.com/w00a8201.htm

When Aurora Snow did her first gangbang in Gang Bang Girl 27 , she did not do anal. It's rare that anal intercourse has not been done by an actress in a Gang Bang Girl movie. After this movie, Christopher Alexander was persistant in trying to talk Aurora in to doing anal. Aurora eventually decided to try it out and she has done many anal scenes over the years.

When I interviewed Aurora Snow for the Aurora Snow biography comic book, she told me that Jim Powers was persistant in trying to talk her in to doing Gag Factor. Aurora at first told him no until Powers said she could work with Jay Ashley (her boyfriend) at the time. Aurora spoke highly of Jim Powers and said he was very enthusiastic when he was selling her on doing the Gag Factor scene.
Jamie Gardner

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#352660 - 08/19/08 12:20 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Quote:

What's wrong with telling the girl everything that will be done? Because most girls would never agree to it. Belladonna was told one thing but something completely different happened. She consented and being payed for one thing. But something else happened that she never agreed to.




It dosen't matter what she was told or what she was expecting. Once she showed up and found out what it was about, did she agree to do the scene anyway? If so, then she was NOT raped.

Lying to a girl about what you're planning on for a scene is a shitty thing, no doubt but if the girl agrees to go along with it anyway then that's on her.

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#352661 - 08/19/08 01:29 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Paully Offline
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Quote:

What's wrong with telling the girl everything that will be done? Because most girls would never agree to it. Belladonna was told one thing but something completely different happened. She consented and being payed for one thing. But something else happened that she never agreed to.










Every performer on a Max Hardcore set not only is told what to expect, she watches scenes and views the web content so she knows exactly what will happen and how she needs to react. Then while signing her model release and making copies of id's and AIM tests she then initials every act she is willing to perform.

If it LOOKS like we are steam-rolling some naive little whore into submission, then we did our job.


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#352662 - 08/19/08 01:41 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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Quote:



Every performer on a Max Hardcore set not only is told what to expect, she watches scenes and views the web content so she knows exactly what will happen and how she needs to react. Then while signing her model release and making copies of id's and AIM tests she then initials every act she is willing to perform.

If it LOOKS like we are steam-rolling some naive little whore into submission, then we did our job.






Roxy Jezel

http://blog.myspace.com/

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#352663 - 08/19/08 01:47 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Paully Offline
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Neesa said Max raped her too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhU0_A2XRBQ

But then again she's out of her fucking head.

Anybody remember Lain Oi. I'm sure I could find her exit interview.

Darrah, you forgot rule number 1. Whores lie, and some are just crazier than a shithouse rat.

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#352664 - 08/19/08 01:52 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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But Max always speaks the truth and is pure as the driven snow?


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#352665 - 08/19/08 01:52 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
carnalcomics Offline
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One of the reasons why I think Belladonna verbally agreed to do the scene ahead of time is that Christopher Alexander has to pay for the guys and his crew to be there. Even if the guys don't end up doing the scene, I would assume he would have to pay them something for showing up. Jenna Jameson lost a lot of money when Digital Playground would not allow Teagan Presley to perform in a sex scene for her. Jenna had Teagan scheduled and there were people waiting around for Teagan to show up. Belladonna is interviewed at adultrental.com about the ABC Primetime interview she did.
Jamie Gardner

Queen Of Controversy! (By: Johnny Maxx)
Q: I have been dying to ask you about the ABC "Prime Time" show. I have heard they didn’t tell the whole story. What did they leave out? How were you misunderstood?

A: First of all, I never said that I was anti-porn. I had no idea what I was getting into. This mainstream company followed me around for two years and never told me they would make it an entire hour long episode.

The way they edited the piece was total bullshit, made up lies, such as the one making it look like I was waiting for a contract. They completely took things out of context. Some things I said were true, at times I did feel pressured into doing things, but I made a choice to go on and do it. I still think a lot of people don't' realize when you're 18 and there's tons of people in the business you don't know who they are, they pressure you.

I'm wasn’t going to lie and say everyone's great, and that you never get treated badly, but I think it's bullshit when people don't' want to hear the truth. I was honest about having STDs. That shit goes around and lots of people don’t give a fuck. It was after that show aired that we the requirements to have an STD test were implemented. Some good came out of it.

I will never do something like that again. ABC emailed me and wanted to do a follow up. I said, 'No thank you. I don't want to be embarrassed again.'"

Q: Since you felt railroaded, was there any real fallout from it?

A: They chopped it up completely, and that wasn’t my choice nor did I have anything to do with the editing. I never intended to come off as a victim. I just wanted people to hear my side of the story. It was my experience and not everyone else’s. I wasn’t saying porn is bad, I was just saying that shit happens, and it happens regardless of what your job is. But, you know, people did talk a lot of shit. I just heard things through the grapevine, no one ever really said anything to my face, but it didn’t really affect me, so it was good.
http://www.adultrental.com/ezine/archive/20060802/interviewoftheweek.html?rentrevid=218109

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#352666 - 08/19/08 01:57 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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But anyone who says anything negative about the industry or talks about a negative experience they had in porn is looked as being anti-porn. Bella might be backpeddling now because the porn zealots always throw that interview in her face. I've been accused of being anti-porn just for the sole reason of despising Jenna Jameson.


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#352667 - 08/19/08 02:17 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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#352668 - 08/19/08 02:17 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
ivorenginedriver Offline
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How you can one despise the Jenna jameson of today? Pity the anorexic wretch.

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#352669 - 08/19/08 02:20 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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Loc: Hell
Quote:








Thank you for taking the time to check it out. *rolls eyes*


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#352670 - 08/19/08 02:47 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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Posts: 1621
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Quote:

How you can one despise the Jenna jameson of today? Pity the anorexic wretch.



She was always highly overrated. They made a mountain out of a molehill. She's not the business woman she claims to be. She never ran anything. Before meeting Jay, her handlers handled all her businesses. After meeting Jay, he solely ran everything having to do with ClubJenna. She was just an employee getting a paycheck every week.

She lies saying all these things that others accomplished before her. She says she was the first to get residuals. Marylin Chambers did for 'Behind The Green Door'. She says she got the first billboard in Times Square. Wrong, Ginger Lynn and John Holmes did. She says she got the first E! True Hollywood Story for a porn star. Wrong, Ginger did. She also claims "her" company was a Fortune 500 company. Wrong, I researched it and checked every year from 2000 - currently and CJ was never a Fortune 500 company. She recently said she is a sex icon. She was never a sex icon. oing porn doesn't make you a sex icon. She said she is now looking for someone to hand over her sex icon title to. She said it should be Charlize Theron. Charlize is not a sex icon. Neither is Jenna. Jenna said "Bettie Page was the ultimate sex icon. Then next came Marilyn Monroe, then Pamela Anderson, then me. Now I'm on the lookout for the next woman to pass my title onto. Charlize would be perfect."

Jay funded CJ, he still runs CJ, and he was always the boss and signed everyone's paychecks. Whatever she did is what he allowed her to do since because he was married to her. She never ran a single company then and now but is paid to only front the companies. She's overrated, a liar, and claims she accomplished all these things when she never did. Without Jay Grdina, she wouldn't be as successful as she is and would definitely never have made the money she has. She married a rich kid, convinced him to fund CJ and run it while she did nothing but take the credit for it.

She was never a real porn star. She's always been vanilla riding the coattails of others. More worthy female performers who have done more sexually and are more gracious have never gotten the same kind of attention she has or the money.

She was an awkward looking teen. But marrying a Wicked director helped her get through Wicked even after their short lived marriage. She did blossom into a beautiful woman years later. Now she's a corpse and a shadow of her former self.

Without Joy King, Howard Stern, and Jay Grdina, Jenna wouldn't be who she is today. But she still claims she did this all on her own and is the smartest business woman in porn. Marrying a rich kid that you never loved only makes you a golddigger.

She went on The View saying she was always mainstream. That's a lie. She says all the other girls in porn are afraid to go mainstream but she never was. She was asked there who in porn does she look up to that has crossed over into mainstream. She said she doesn't look up to anyone because everyone in porn that has gone mainstream had to cry victim to go mainstream. She mentioned Traci Lords, the only true mainstream star, and said she had a fake ID and said she was forced. Traci and many other girls lied about their age. Traci wasn't the first and will not be the last. And Traci never once said she was forced. Traci said no one ever put a gun to her head. She was young and needed the money and hated being poor. Have Ginger Lynn, Marylin Chambers, Ron Jeremy, and Simon Rex ever cried victim or said they were forced all to cross over into porn? No. Jenna is the one that cries victim to anyone who will put her story on a mainstream outlet. And Jenna's FU speech at the AVN Awards did more damage to porn and gave the religious haters what they wanted. The so-called, self proclaimed queen of porn pissed all over the industry that night.

She goes against all the men in porn saying they are all gross and are all on viagra. But she never did real porn. And Jay gave up his anonymity to come in front of the camera so she wouldn't have to have sex with anymore men. I know what Jay is and he was never a saint. But give credit where credit is due. She gives a bad example to the real female porn stars out there. Jenna is angry and bitter and always hated porn. But she loves spending her millions that she made because of porn. She is suddenly no longer bisexual. And after years of saying she wanted children, her Myspace says she's undecided on the matter. But it was all for mainstream publicity (wanting children) and mainstream acceptance (no longer bisexual).


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#352671 - 08/19/08 03:07 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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^ Don't you have a blog for this type of scroll-bomb shit?

This site really needs a dumpster forum where shoulder mounted spam-bots like this thick cunt can be sent.

Just sayin.
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#352672 - 08/19/08 03:10 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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He asked a question and I answered.

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#352673 - 08/19/08 03:11 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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#352674 - 08/19/08 03:23 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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#352675 - 08/19/08 03:46 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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We missed you, LC.
Quote:

But Max always speaks the truth and is pure as the driven snow?




Cunt: That isn't the fucking point. These fucking whores are making SERIOUS CRIMINAL ALLEGATIONS that can cost a man his livelihood and freedom. Secondly, the exit interviews COMPLETELY NEGATE those allegations. I've said before that I'm no huge fan of Mr. Little (many aren't) but that doesn't justify the claims made against him. It also minimizes the responsibility of the whores who are more than willing to make money with a man whose work is infamous.Any whore who has worked with Max post 1995 should know what he does....


Edited by tattypatty (08/19/08 03:55 PM)
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#352676 - 08/19/08 04:02 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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She lies saying all these things that others accomplished before her.




The only sex scene I liked that much from Jenna Jameson is the one she did with Randy West. She has never been one of my favorite porn actresses. She may have forgotten about the Ginger Lynn E! True Hollywood Story or not realized it was first broadcast before her's was.

Some of Jenna's boasting about things that are not true may be because of ignorance of the history of x-rated movies before she got involved in them. In a conversation with Sunny Lane's Mother, she said Sunny Lane was the first porn actress to appear in a Playboy publication. I told Shelby that Playboy had other pictorials before Sunny Lane.

A Few years ago, Playboy did a cover story that had Tera Patrick and other porn actresses in it. In the 1970s, Playboy did pictorials of Linda Lovelace, Marilyn Chambers and Constance Money. There was also 2 articles in the 1970s that had photos of many porn actresses. I have a big Playboy collection so I have more knowledge of Playboy history then Shelby does.
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#352677 - 08/19/08 04:30 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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The only sex scene I liked that much from Jenna Jameson is the one she did with Randy West.



She was on the Howard Stern Show saying how she was so disgusted by Randy after a drop of his sweat fell on her. I was thinking she's lucky if that's all that gets on her from him.

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#352678 - 08/19/08 04:32 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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And how can anyone say that I know nothing about porn when I seem to know more about it than Jenna Jameson does? She did porn but I know more about the history of it. I'm sure she knew but thought no one would question her on it. She did know CJ was never a Fortune 500 company but she was going around promoting 'Zombie Strippers' saying she made "her" company from nothing into a Fortune 500 company.

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#352679 - 08/19/08 05:29 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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I am not disparaging your general knowledge of porn, but journalism requires first-hand contacts with sources of information and the milieu that is the subject of one's reportage. L-ke understood this first principle of journalism, and I hope that you do, too.

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#352680 - 08/19/08 05:55 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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I understand that. But Luke and most others live in California making it easier for them to be a part of the industry. I live in another state and can't imagine at the current time telling my BF and family I'm flying out to California to go to a porn party/award show. I just told my mother the other week that I have a porn blog. I had to keep on emphasizing it was adult industry news with Playboy-esque pictures. Do the people reporting on the Olympics have to be there now reporting on it? They can just get the reports in and write about it that way. Most of the Hollywood celebrity blogs I visit everyday have never met a single celebrity. But they blog about them. Have many political bloggers even ventured to Washington DC to meet a politician?






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#352681 - 08/19/08 06:02 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Do the people reporting on the Olympics have to be there now reporting on it?




For the most part, yes.
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#352682 - 08/19/08 06:16 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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That would have been a great question for Jim McKay in Munich, Durr-huh.

Serious question D-bag, why porn?. Why not womens tennis or volleyball?.
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#352683 - 08/19/08 06:18 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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And how can anyone say that I know nothing about porn when I seem to know more about it than Jenna Jameson does? She did porn but I know more about the history of it. I'm sure she knew but thought no one would question her on it. She did know CJ was never a Fortune 500 company but she was going around promoting 'Zombie Strippers' saying she made "her" company from nothing into a Fortune 500 company.




how is her saying CJ was a fortune 500 company any different than you calling yourself a journalist?
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#352684 - 08/19/08 06:25 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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#352685 - 08/19/08 06:48 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Serious question D-bag, why porn?. Why not womens tennis or volleyball?.





What's the -bag for? But I'm fascinated with the adult industry and always have been. It was either start a blog about mainstream Hollywood celebrities or a porn industry news blog.


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#352686 - 08/19/08 06:50 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Darrah Offline
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Quote:

how is her saying CJ was a fortune 500 company any different than you calling yourself a journalist?



I have never once called myself a journalist! YOU guys have. I always say I'm a blogger but you psychos always say in order to be a porn journalist I have to be near the industry.

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#352687 - 08/19/08 06:57 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Quote:

Quote:

Serious question D-bag, why porn?. Why not womens tennis or volleyball?.





What's the -bag for?





D-bag = douchebag, you curious cunt.
That being said you're an above average attention whore
and I now "get it"(wink wink).

Carry on D-bag.
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#352688 - 08/20/08 07:45 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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When I was at a signing at Sky High Comics during the 1990s, I had a conversation with Christina Angel in which she described Max Hardcore as being evil. She is not credited as ever having had a sex scene with him. In a magazine interview, Tiffany Mynx spoke negatively of Max Hardcore who she had sex with in Anal Adventures Of Max Hardcore: Between The Lines (1992). There is a list of women who have had sex with Max Hardcore.
http://www.wikiporno.org/wiki/Max_Hardcore

On the Carnal Comics Yahoo group, Max Hardcore has been discussed at various times. Jay Allen Sanford, the former publisher of Carnal Comics, interviewed many women for the comic book biographies. Jay says he talked to hundreds of porn actresses over the years. He talked to more women then he ended up doing comic books about. He was told negative things about Max Hardcore.

On the Carnal Comics Yahoo group, Jay commented on the way Hardcore makes his movies.
Jamie Gardner

Jay Allen Sanford: Max does not operate with "safe words," I've been told by women he's worked with. In fact, I've seen at least three tapes with women pleading for Max to stop, and he doesn't - in one, I can clearly hear the woman saying "SOMEbody, please help me, make him stop" as she looks
off camera at someone who did NOT intercede before Max sat on her face, wiggled his ass on it like a dog cleaning its ass on a carpet, and then got off her so the camera could pan in on the feces on her face as tears poured down her face, her still pleading "please, oh my god, stop, let me up..."

Nobody can be prepared for this by "discussing" beforehand, and no model release, no matter how worded, should protect Max should that particular woman decide to press charges (or sue) for assault. I've been with some women who like it rough, but that woman in the tape was begging for Max to stop and pleading for help from anyone in the room, but it kept getting worse, and that's wrong no matter how rough someone likes it. Doesn't matter if nine out of ten ladies loved working with Max (which I doubt), the tenth deserves her day in court - -

May he rot in jail,

Jay Allen

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#352689 - 08/20/08 01:21 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Paully Offline
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Are you that fucking stupid??? The whores are told to ACT that way and to say those things. We have to continuously stop and restart the action to get the lines and effect we are looking for. Then we edit the scene to look like there are no breaks and that were killing bitches. What the fuck don't you get.

I'm gonna tell you a little secret as to why some say they regret working with Max, and btw probably less than 10 have complained in almost 2000 scenes.

Maybe it's a little harder to negotiate a lucrative contract
for lets say Vivid, when they took it up the ass and got pissed on for a grand.

Briana Banks did TWO scenes for us and then went on to say she was taken advantage. Olivia did a few scenes then filed a police report for rape. Of course after the police saw the footage no charges were filed but then a week later she came back, apologized and asked to work again.!!??

This business has more than its fair share of mentally unstable fuckwits. 10 complaints in 2000 scenes doesn't seem like such a bad record considering.

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#352690 - 08/20/08 02:06 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Gonna go along with Paully about crazy whores, since it seems clear that LE would have pursued any credible sexual assault allegations. Paully's enemies are our enemies, and we ought not help them persecute him.

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#352691 - 08/20/08 04:16 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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#352692 - 08/20/08 05:15 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
Paully Offline
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Oh yeah, that crackhead from Florida. Her and her old man where into large insertions. She told us she could take a bowling pin up the cooter. She could probably take a fucking bowling ball.

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#352693 - 08/20/08 06:19 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Quote:



"I'm sure I left my cell phone in there somewhere."




fuck, that's hot
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#352694 - 08/20/08 09:05 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Who the hell was that? And why the hell couldn't you find a bowling ball?

Missed opportunities drive me crazy...
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#352695 - 08/23/08 11:44 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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She mentioned Traci Lords, the only true mainstream star, and said she had a fake ID and said she was forced. Traci and many other girls lied about their age. Traci wasn't the first and will not be the last. And Traci never once said she was forced. Traci said no one ever put a gun to her head.




My main problem with Traci Lords is not that she lied about her age. When a person shows a fake ID at a bar, there goal is not to close the bar. Ron Jeremy made this point when I
was talking with him about Alexandra Quinn (who was also underage for many movies). The biggest thing that bothers me is she trys to across like she was a victim. Traci used her name recognition from porn to launch a mainstream movie and TV acting career. Jim Wynorski has said he cast Traci in Not of this Earth because her name recognition got people more interested in the movie. He was happy with the acting job she did for him.

Marilyn Chambers was cast in David Cronenberg's Rabid because she was much more well known then Sissy Spacek was before Carrie. Cronenberg said Chambers did go good method acting but his original choice was Spacek. I don't think Zombie Strippers would have got as much publicity if Jenna Jameson was not in it. Even though acting in porn can hurt mainstream acting opportunities, it's not always a negative. Traci has claimed that Jim South had drugs in his office. I have never read or talked to anyone else who has said that ever happened at Jim South's World Modeling agency. South has a reputation as being anti-drug. Would South be stupid enough to have drugs in his office? What if the police raided his office and found drugs there.
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#352696 - 08/23/08 02:21 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Did Traci ever say she was a victim of the industry? She said of her stepfather and an older boy at school when she was much younger. But I always heard she always said no one ever put a gun to her head and she did it because she was young and needed the money and hated being poor.

Alexandra Quinn wasn't as famous as Traci. So there really wasn't that much of a scandal with her and didn't cost the industry that much in pulled videos and that's why they took her back after she turned 18.

Traci said she started using another name and was getting work as a model. One, possibly Japanese, company hired her here in the U.S. but then found out who she was and threatened to sue her for fraud. So she decided to stay with Traci Lords and not run and hide anymore. Harry Reems, who is really religious, kept the name Harry Reems and it's not his birth name. Just saw an old interview of his where he says he didn't want people to think he was hiding.

Of course at first she got the jobs she did because of her name. But she did say that most auditions never worked out and she found out she never had a chance and they just wanted to meet her. But after 22 years now, she gets work because of her resume and not because of teen porn star. That whole gimmick would have worn out 20 years ago if she didn't have the talent to pack it up.

I believe Jenna ruined whatever chance that movie had of making any money. The star of the movie, Robert England, didn't even show up for the premiere of the movie. The movie did so bad that it didn't even crack the charts at all. I tried finding out how much it made but couldn't. I forgot the name of the movie but one movie I remember barely got in the top 100 and it only made about $30,000. The movie got so much publicity and she went on The View and it couldn't even get onto the charts. She ruined the movie because she is not a likable person.

Jim South who spent alot on his trial but was later acquitted made Traci look like a bigger victim. On her E! True Hollywood Story, Jim said Traci stepfather brought her into his studio and told him I'll get her into porn movies one day. Traci has claimed her stepfather waited in the car outside. Now why would Jim lie when she is the reason why he was put on trial? Tom Byron said that he was never allowed into her home because she told him someone from her past was staying there and holding something over her head. It was probably her stepfather. Many people including her own family knew how old she was and kids in her former school. And she said the government had a three year file on her. She was in porn for three years. I always thought that the FBI knew right away how old she was but never did anything waiting for the right time to come in and arrest people and having more porn credits to her name so it would cost the industry more money after being made illegal.

She also said after the scandal broke, men came over to her apartment and attacked her boyfriend and kicked Traci in the face. She also had a hard time trying to convince the IRS she had only made $30,000 throughout the time she did porn. Ron Jeremy said she got about a thousand dollars for her first movie I believe. They said no and she turned to walk away. They stopped her and paid her the thousand. She says she made about 20 movies. So the $30,000 seems about right and also considering that she spent most of it on drugs. And don't anyone say she didn't do drugs. Everyone then did drugs except for Ron Jeremy. You're telling me Traci was the only other?







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#352697 - 08/24/08 06:43 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Quote:

The star of the movie, Robert England, didn't even show up for the premiere of the movie.





It's 'Englund', bitch.

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#352698 - 08/24/08 01:34 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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Speaking of massive amounts of bullshit and shitty lawyers...

Jeffrey Douglas Urges A Letter of Support for Max Hardcore

My favorite quote from the "sample" letter...
Quote:

Most importantly, Paul is the primary source of income not only to his employees and co-stars, and he's financially supported others over the years with no hope of a return. I know that many people will suffer serious financial hardships should Paul be sentenced to a long prison term.

So I hope you have it within your power to sentence Paul to probation or house arrest, so he can continue to help others. If a prison term is required by law, then I ask that it be the shortest term permitted.




CONTINUE TO HELP OTHERS? Yeah, after the courts found him guilty the judge is going to condemn him to the house where he films all his movies.
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#352699 - 08/24/08 05:27 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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the judge is going to condemn him to the house where he films all his movies.



Exactly.

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#352700 - 08/26/08 07:14 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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either way right about now
max is shakin' in his cowboy boots
i know i would be
i've said this before but why does max even fuck with amerikkka?
If i was him i would have picked up and moved the entire shebang to europe after the FBI shot his floor up the first time.
if that wasn't a warning sign of things to come I don't know what is
no one would bat an eye at his work ethics in europe
The south of france or amsterdam looks pretty nice compared toa few years in a fed penn...what the fuck is he thinking?

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#352701 - 08/26/08 12:02 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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what the fuck!? I come on this thread to read about Max and what the crazy man Margold, who leaves dirty teddy bears in front of your office had to say about him..

Who the fuck is this annoying person Darrah? I cant get through one thread without hearing this person spew shit like she actually really know things that she obviously knows nothing about..

Can anyone make this idiot go away.. I know im never really here but Fuck is she annoying.

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#352702 - 08/26/08 04:29 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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#352703 - 08/26/08 11:12 PM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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If lying to a girl to get her in bed is considered rape, then every male over the age of 13 would be in jail.

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#352704 - 08/27/08 07:14 AM Re: Margold speaks on Max
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