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#352581 - 08/15/08 02:55 PM
Margold speaks on Max
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Porn Jesus
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I'm not a huge fan of Mr. Little, but Bill Margold has to be the most hypocritical cocksucker in the biz. Who the fuck made him 'president of porn'? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQcVJ3eDTLM
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#352582 - 08/15/08 03:38 PM
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Even though porn is supposedly just a small group of people…..I think that just like…..[cough]….high school there are some individuals who have or belong to separate “cliques”.
I think people should wake up….it is not the beginning of porn neither the golden age as well…etc, etc. Porn has expanded quite rapidly and as such has a lot of splinter groups within.
Margold…is of the “older” crowd….he begets the listen and respect your elders bullshit routine….perhaps he could be even mentioned in a statement using words like “old guard”.
There should be a mandatory retirement age in ALL of porn….at least 10 over the federal minimum…..since none of these fools have a 401k. :2cents:
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#352585 - 08/15/08 03:48 PM
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I agree with everything Bill said.
You probably also bought everything you heard from the lame duck admin on the reasons we are in the middle east currently....
Like the famous quote goes....
"There’s is a sucker born every minute"
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#352586 - 08/15/08 04:20 PM
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I agree with everything Bill said.
You also believe everything Shelley Lubben says. How many WalMart cards has she sent you?
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#352588 - 08/15/08 04:52 PM
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And you believe that she's helping these girls with these WalMart cards.
I've got the crowbar standing by whenever you're ready.
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#352590 - 08/15/08 04:59 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 07/07/08
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Publicly, previously posted by Shelley.
An evangelical millionaire tied to the beer business? Now that one I haven’t heard. Some of you assume much about me but have never taken the time to get to know me. Do you have any idea how much hard work and commitment it takes to help porn stars rebuild their lives after porn? Just think about that. Wait, don’t just think about it, go do it and then let me know what you think about me then. It is VERY hard work. I have loved until it hurts. My whole family has loved those in the industry and invited them in our home to live, we have cared for them while they are sick, loved them even when they lie to us, helped them find safer places to live, reunited them with their family members, visited them in jail, helped them find jobs, driven down to the Valley from Bakersfield to take them to dinner only to have some of them not show up and yet we STILL keep trying to reach them and love them. And donations, I get very little donations compared to other ministries. You really think a bunch of churches want to support an ex porn star who helps porn stars? Think again. I do this because I LOVE people in the porn industry and truly believe all of you are made for something better. I really mean that. I do ask for donations on my web site because it DOES cost money to run a foundation and help people. I do speak a few times a year to cause awareness and receive an honorarium which helps to support my work. But I am a Mom of three and can’t travel around to have some big evangelist ministry. I work mainly at home. I raise my kids and care for my family. I reach out to porn stars through the internet and on the phone. I drive down to San Fernando Valley to meet women who want my help. You don’t really know me. But if you look closer you will see who I really am. By the way, the main donor of my outreach is not some millionaire but my hardworking husband. My husband works 60-70 hours a week as a medical sales rep who drives about 1000 miles a week to support his wife so she can stay home, raise our children and help porn stars and sex workers. There, now you know a little more about the Lubben Family. We love you no matter what you think of us.
I haven’t worked with xxxchurch on the Esther Fund for a year. I started my own non-profit public charity called Pink Cross Foundation. I really feel I understand the needs of sex workers more than those who haven’t been in the sex industry so this is the main reason why I started my own organization. XXXChurch has different ideas about how to help porn stars than I do. I didn’t feel comfortable with some of them so my hubby and I started Pink Cross Foundation.
But it’s all good. I’m glad so many people are reaching out to the porn industry. God bless!
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#352591 - 08/15/08 05:04 PM
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And you believe this tripe?
::goes rummaging through attic for clerical collar from three halloweens ago::
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#352592 - 08/15/08 05:06 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 04/15/08
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Has anyone talked to Max? How's he doing? I can't say I'm a massive fan of his work but it's got to suck pretty hard getting railroaded like he is.
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#352593 - 08/15/08 06:05 PM
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There isn't a Walmart in sight where I live.
Excatly in what 3th world country do you live in? I understand that they have Wal-Mart in
- Baghdad Green Zone
- Somalia Bakaara Market
- South Darfur
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#352594 - 08/15/08 06:11 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 05/16/07
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Jesus fucking Christ; probably one of the better potential threads in a while and Darrah's already POISONING it with re-hashed Shelley Lubben posts. STOP BAITING THIS STUPID BITCH, please!!  Anyway. I've always had a soft spot for Margold though he can be particularly bat shit crazy sometimes with his views (especially for someone who I really can't think of a "real" accomplishment in a decade or so besides his work with PAW...and when was the last time you heard about that org besides from Margold? If he did his job right he could become a total foil to a retard like Shelley Lubben.) But one line particularly caught me: "The lawyers who feed off of him want to keep him in just enough trouble to keep him spending money, and when he's out of money they'll abandon him. Eventually he'll make a plea bargain and go away." That's always been my view. Someone finally said it. 
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#352595 - 08/15/08 07:06 PM
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Porn Jesus
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You're also half retarded so what does that prove?
Oh boy it's the 15th already, that went toooooo fucking fast, she's backkkkkkkkkkkkkk 
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#352596 - 08/15/08 07:13 PM
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Oh boy it's the 15th already, that went toooooo fucking fast, she's backkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Gypsy, I see you dressed for the occasion:
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#352597 - 08/15/08 10:54 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 459
Loc: California
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"The lawyers who feed off of him want to keep him in just enough trouble to keep him spending money, and when he's out of money they'll abandon him. Eventually he'll make a plea bargain and go away."
That's always been my view. Someone finally said it.
Then you are as "bat shit crazy" as Margold is. Max didnt plea, he stood is ground and lost. Thats a decision he made on his own. The day of the verdict I talked to Jeffrey, he was a wreck. He cares... he is not the type to bleed a client. Not saying it doesnt happen with other lawyers, thats just not Jeff.
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#352598 - 08/16/08 08:01 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/28/07
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Blah, blah, blah... I like what she does in helping the girls who need the help and seek it out. None of you are doing it.
No, indeed. I'm not helping any girls that want to leave the porn industry. I rather spend my time, energy and money on people who are in a much worse situation and are willing and able to take the first few steps themselves, instead of being coaxed into some religion-based program.
Besides, you're pointing to other people, but I haven't seen anything from you regarding getting girls help. Your gossip site isn't exactly helping either.
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#352599 - 08/16/08 11:32 AM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 07/07/05
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I disagree with William Margold. I think if Max Hardcore crossed the line with actresses and did things against
their will, the actresses should report him to the police. The Bush administration is going after more extreme
material because it is easier to get prosecutions.
It is does not mean their prosecutions will stop if they
can force Hardcore, Robert Black's Extreme Associates and Evil Angel out of business. Darrah does not see the big picture. Tricia Devereaux knows what a jerk Robert Black
is. He was her boyfriend in the 1990s for months. Tricia
has said that Hardcore and Black should not prosecuted for obscenity.
Jamie Gardner
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#352601 - 08/16/08 08:24 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Oh boy it's the 15th already, that went toooooo fucking fast, she's backkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Gypsy, I see you dressed for the occasion:
 
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#352602 - 08/16/08 08:26 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 07/07/08
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I think if Max Hardcore crossed the line with actresses and did things against
their will, the actresses should report him to the police.
And what exactly would be done? The police thumbing their nose down at the girl because of what she does for a living. I've read the Myspace blogs of a few of the girls that have worked with Hardcore and they said in detail the shit he put them through. Either they didn't know who he was or they told him exactly what they would do and not do but he did what he wanted with the girl screaming for him to stop which he never did. Hardcore has money and he's a man. So the police don't care. Asher and countless others never saw the inside of a jail cell except for Skeeter.
A judge told a prostitute months ago that her rape was her fault and her jon should sue for services lost or some crazy shit like that. She was viciously raped and it was videotaped and the judge told her it was her fault because of her job.
Read on a forum somewhere a former porn star asking for legal advice. She was viciously raped, beaten, kicked, held hostage, and repeatedly raped for days. She went on a date with a guy and later told him what she used to do and then he did all that to her. She still needs surgeries and other medical procedures because of the damage he did to her and her back.
A few female porn stars have been raped on set that I know of. But people like on this board keep on saying whores lie. Gia does porn and if she came on here and said that she was raped, the men who kiss her ass here wouldn't believe her or they just wouldn't care. To most of the men on here, the performers are just a pile of garbage and the shit from their dog's ass is worth more than she.
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#352605 - 08/16/08 10:01 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
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There are police and judges who don't believe porn actresses and prostitutes but that is not true of all of them. I'm sure there are many law enforcement people who would use any excuse to go after a pornographer. How many porn actresses have ever gone to the police to tell them bad things Max
Hardcore did to them? There is a difference between an actresses telling about bad experiences with Max Hardcore and actually going to the authorities to try to get him prosecuted.
Jamie Gardner
Jay Allen Sanford, the former publisher of Carnal Comics,
has written about Marylin Star's experience working with Max Hardcore: Ladies speaking OFF the record tend to be more honest, and most any porn star I ever knew was at least uncomfortable about what Max does, if not downright disturbed. One odd exception, at first anyways, was Marylyn Star, who seemed anxious to work with Max during the brief period we dated, but only because she had a yen to change her reputation from soft Vivid-type beauty to "gonzo" star. She wanted to land a bunch of work all at once and put together a bankroll to finance a planned business endeavors
(she'd never even filmed an anal scene up until them). I've seen her "Max" scene and she acts like she's enjoying it, she's a very good actress, but I also talked to her that same night she filmed it and she was VERY upset and angry and even considering going to the emergency room, her body was so torn up from the twin speculums, etc. She thought
somebody who owns gyno tools oughta at least know how to
use them without causing multiple bleeding abrasions - - -
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#352607 - 08/16/08 10:29 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
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#352609 - 08/16/08 11:58 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
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Belladonna was gangraped on set by 10 or 12 but she's ridiculed for "putting down porn". Her first year in porn and she being told it was going to be one way but she shows up and it's something completely different. She tries to leave but is threatened if she leaves. I remember hearing she never did drugs until after what happened. Yes she's a huge star now but at what price? Most in porn still hate her for that interview but Max Hardcore, Khan Tusion, Derek Hay, and Rob Black are somehow fucking heroes.
Belladonna is not claiming she was gangraped. She knew she
was hired to do a gangbang. She has expressed regret for
agreeing to do the gangbang. Belladonna could have said
no to Christopher Alexander.
Aurora Snow has said Christopher Alexander was persistent in trying to talk her in to doing anal for the first time. Aurora does not claim Christopher forced her to do anal. People need to take responsiblity for their own actions.
Have you seen Gang Bang Girl 29? Do you see any guys forcefully holding Belladonna down? Do you see Belladonna trying to push guys away? Do you hear Belladonna say that the guys should stop having sex with her?
Would Christopher have Belladonna raped in front of so many witnesses? There are 12 guys in the gangbang. Would that many porn actors take part in a gangrape of Belladonna? I think you have been reading too much propaganda from Shelley Lubben?
Jamie Gardner
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#352610 - 08/17/08 12:27 AM
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Human Garbage
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She said in that interview she was expecting one regular sex scene. She was coerced and forced. She left crying and went back home to her parents.
After she didn't get a contract with VCA, she got a deal with Elegant Angel and they flew her out to Prague with a starring role in a feature. Once again, she's being abused by another company and more men. That what was done to her, none of it was scripted or suggested by the director. It didn't even end up in the final version of the video. She was shaking after and upset after what they did to her. They interviewed her after what they did to her.
Bella never did drugs before porn. But with all the abuse from the companies and men she worked with, she started doing drugs and would also be high during her scenes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBtLst3espU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UriHw41mIAY&feature=related
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#352611 - 08/17/08 12:29 AM
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Porn Jesus
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#352612 - 08/17/08 12:52 AM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 05/16/07
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Jesus, I look around all day waiting to respond looking for that damn picture of Jeffrey Douglas in that stupid Mickey Mouse tie... And now its a debate between Darrah and Carnal Comix.  <---ME
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#352613 - 08/17/08 01:01 AM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 07/14/08
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She said in that interview she was expecting one regular sex scene. She was coerced and forced. She left crying and went back home to her parents.
After she didn't get a contract with VCA, she got a deal with Elegant Angel and they flew her out to Prague with a starring role in a feature. Once again, she's being abused by another company and more men. That what was done to her, none of it was scripted or suggested by the director. It didn't even end up in the final version of the video. She was shaking after and upset after what they did to her. They interviewed her after what they did to her.
Bella never did drugs before porn. But with all the abuse from the companies and men she worked with, she started doing drugs and would also be high during her scenes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBtLst3espU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UriHw41mIAY&feature=related
edit: seriously, those vids are hot as hell.
edit2: HOLY SHIT, they bring in her mother and she cries, blaming herself for what happened to her daughter. 
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#352616 - 08/17/08 02:00 AM
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Human Garbage
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Was this in response to something, or are you looking for another week in The Penalty Box?
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edit: seriously, those vids are hot as hell.
And don't threaten me either.
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#352618 - 08/17/08 06:22 AM
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A judge told a prostitute months ago that her rape was her fault and her jon should sue for services lost or some crazy shit like that.
Link please, Edwina?
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#352619 - 08/17/08 07:00 AM
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Human Garbage
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Meaning, you know, more than 1. Where are they?
It was a while ago and I forgot and can't even recall who the women are. I usually have trouble with mixing up names.
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#352620 - 08/17/08 07:02 AM
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I usually have trouble with mixing up fact, fiction and delusion.
Fixed.
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#352624 - 08/17/08 07:52 AM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 459
Loc: California
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She didn't have the money to hire the lawyers to save her name and website, the primary source of her income, because that cunt "Violet Blue" sued and didn't tell the real Violet Blue about the lawsuit ahead of time giving her notice.
Ummm... Violet Blue called me about helping her out with the lawsuit and I told her I would do it on a contingency basis... She had an option...
But please dont let facts get in the way of a good story. Fiction writers never do.
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#352625 - 08/17/08 08:22 AM
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Internet Tough Guy
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It is rape when she was told one thing but showed up and it was something completely different. But you know that misogynist.
Um... no. How the fuck would that constitute rape? If a guy invites you over to dinner (poor guy!) and you expect him to want to sit and hold your hand while you cry about your father issues, while he expects to fuck you up the ass (poor guy!) he has not committed rape when you step into his place. If he puts his cock into your ass (poor guy!) even though you say no then he has raped you (just like your father, poor guy!).
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#352626 - 08/17/08 08:23 AM
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Human Garbage
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#352627 - 08/17/08 08:28 AM
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Read the entire thing, not just snippets.
Funny. Your "sources'" links to the PA Judicial Conduct Board and the Philly Bar Assn don't link to any complaints, just their home pages. And the links to the Philadelphia Daily News are all dead. Great work, Edwina.
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#352628 - 08/17/08 08:29 AM
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Anonymous
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I read it at AVN.
Link please, Edwina?
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#352630 - 08/17/08 08:30 AM
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Case closed.
In your dreams, Edwina.
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