19073 Members
14 Forums
40344 Topics
614139 Posts
Max Online: 639 @ 01/18/23 06:59 AM
|
|
|
#351664 - 08/11/08 07:11 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 4470
|
Quote:
I don't like Derek because he almost single handedly drives performer rates through the roof and refuses to negotiate on those rates.
Living the pimp lifestyle ain't cheap, ya dig? The more he charges for his whores, the larger cut he takes home as well.
Quote:
Production budgets are almost HALF what they were even 5 years ago, yet performer rates have gone up over 30% in that same amount of time.
Habit, it's called the cost of living. And you ought to know whores, the cost of their living is fucking outrageous. Only a sugar daddy can help most of the whores in this recession.
Quote:
But Holly you and your mom can make almost any chick look great. If you look at the photos of the above mentioned specimens on LA Direct they make the whole industry look bad. Ugly chicks are being disillusioned into thinking they can become "stars." Then much like Sierra Sinn, they have breakdown after breakdown. I respect someone who isn't pretty but has self confidence, however, I don't respect false ego which is the main affliction of LA lifestyles.
Lest we not forget the scabbed-knee photos of Tory Lane a year or two ago. How the fuck could you let those photos be published? It looked like she just got done a circlejerk blowbang without kneepads.
_________________________
Because you already yelled 'dropping prices!!!' after Red Light canned you. - Gia Jordan to Brandon Iron
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351665 - 08/11/08 08:16 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Poodle Killer
Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 02/24/06
Posts: 812
Loc: Rubbing dicks with strange guy...
|
What a fuckin goof...!!  So who do you consider a decent whore...??? Porn stars are supposed to look rough,,,,Why do you think some of the uglier beaters are more popular.. It ain't rocket fucking science,,but obviously it's way beyond your level of comprehension ...  Oh.! And by the way could you shut the Fuck-Up,,Goof....???
_________________________
100 Cigarettes
King Richard
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351666 - 08/12/08 12:57 AM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Pervert
Registered: 07/05/05
Posts: 2134
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
|
Quote:
Quote:
If they were genuinely unhappy with this situation then they can always leave the agency
Actually thats not true. Almost all of the legal talent agencies that are licensed and bonded with the state use a Division of Labor Standards and Enforcement approved contract that appears to be exclusive. So many of the performers that are unhappy with their agent are told they cant leave until their contract is up.
I get a lot of phone calls from performers looking to get out of their agency's contract.
and how did you do trying to fight derek on the girls contracts again? refresh my memory on that? lol
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351668 - 08/12/08 05:49 AM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Bukkake Boy
Registered: 04/15/08
Posts: 741
Loc: The Great White Frozen Fucking...
|
Quote:
You just made his point, Huckleberry. 
He probably couldn't win because of the contractual obligation, hence the girls CAN'T just up and leave without serious legal issues.
Not trying to raise shit here, just trying to understand the situation.
If the girl is in a contract with an agent to make money, the agent gets his cut. If someone contacts the girl directly about shooting a scene, and the girl says yes, so long as the agent gets his cut, what's the problem? Everyone is entitled to make a living, and the agent can't tell the girls who they can or can't work with, right? If he did tell the girl, 'You can't work with Jackie Fuckface because I don't like him.', isn't that breach of contract?
I'm probably oversimplifying things, I know, I just don't understand all this drama over agents. To the best of my knowledge the most an agent can charge anyone is 15%, and if he's actively preventing a girl from getting work because of his own agenda, then he's automatically in breach.
I could be entirely full of shit on those points though. most of what I know about contract law comes from what I researched when I was looking for an agent of my own. (A writing agent, not a porn agent. You guys do not want to see me naked.)
Fenris
_________________________
'She looks like Brock Lesnar.' - The Tatty Patty.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351669 - 08/12/08 06:32 AM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 459
Loc: California
|
Quote:
and how did you do trying to fight derek on the girls contracts again? refresh my memory on that? lol
Refresh my memory...when did I file a suit against Derek or LA Direct ? Never have... Not sure what gossip you heard.
The only thing you might have heard is in reference to one particular performer. Derek and his lawyer came to my office to discuss problems she was having and Derek agreed to work with her and to change his policies.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351673 - 08/12/08 09:48 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 4470
|
Quote:
Unfucking believeable. It's like a Bugs Bunny cartoon...
"....Rabbit Season. Duck Season, FIRE!..... Blam!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRg158Fzxw0
I needed a good fucking laugh at this late hour.
_________________________
Because you already yelled 'dropping prices!!!' after Red Light canned you. - Gia Jordan to Brandon Iron
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351674 - 08/12/08 10:40 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 09/18/05
Posts: 138
Loc: Nunyo Biznass
|
hey DE-Evolution ... you overlooked Lexi Belle. just an error? 
_________________________
"If it has tits or wheels, it's gonna give you problems."
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351675 - 08/27/08 04:00 AM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Stormy's Lawyer
Registered: 08/27/08
Posts: 20
Loc: "the valley"
|
Quote:
Ashley Orion- Body of a boy face of a man.
 hell ya kid... you know you'd hit it!
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351676 - 08/27/08 04:41 AM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 07/19/08
Posts: 51
Loc: between your legs
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
The whores already get paid WAY more then they're worth. Why, when everyone else in the industry has had to tighten their belts and cut their rates, are the whores the only ones immune from the current economy?
Production budgets are almost HALF what they were even 5 years ago, yet performer rates have gone up over 30% in that same amount of time.
In any other industry, if you work twice as hard for half the money while the price of "supplies" keeps increasing, you'd go out of business. The girls need to cut their rates like everyone else, then, maybe, they'd start seeing more work and, coincidentally, more money.
thats false and you know it.
What's False? That budgets are half what they were 5 years ago? That porn sales are down overall? That everyone in the industry (except pw's) are working for significantly less then they used to?
Apparently being male doesn't exclude you from being a stupid whore.
Quote:
do you think derek is an idiot? if he has the rate set at something then there are people that are paying it. just because YOU can't afford to pay it, doesn't meant that there are other people who can.
No, I think he's a fascist and just because there is some moron out there with more cash then brains and is stupid enough to pay $2300 for an anal girl, it does not justify raising every girl's rate to $1600 and then NOT negotiating when the girls are MORE THAN WILLING to do it for $1200
And, yes, while Derek gets them top dollar, this limits the girls to the big studios. The independent producers are priced out and the girls work less and therefore earn less money overall.
If I had an agency fee for every time a girl said she'd have done the gig for the offered rate if she been told about it, my house would be paid for!
Go post about something you actually know about like how you can't keep your dick hard in a boy/girl without caverject injections.
Is that Gene Hackman 
_________________________
XTP Hater
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351678 - 08/27/08 04:45 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 2710
|
Quote:
Is that Gene Hackman?
No, it's a young Luiz Felipe Scolari, AKA 'Big Phil', manager of Chelsea and part-time Gene Hackman impersonator.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351679 - 08/27/08 04:50 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/28/04
Posts: 4450
Loc: The Planet Houston
|
Quote:
hey DE-Evolution ... you overlooked Lexi Belle.
just an error?
even the most bitterest of fan boys has a favorite.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351680 - 08/27/08 08:01 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Gay For Pay
Registered: 02/02/06
Posts: 911
Loc: cobra on my left, leopard on m...
|
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351681 - 12/26/08 05:27 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 11/19/06
Posts: 310
|
Quote:
Mya Nichole- Fake lips and tits, has a slight camel appearance, ugly tats, just weird lookin.
just found an "old" video of hers. Besides the stupid looking tats she looked great. What happened to her?
Old Mya
New Mya
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351682 - 12/27/08 07:24 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 06/01/06
Posts: 121
|
Nick Fucking Manning happened, I hear tell.
_________________________
Super porno-creep powers, activate!
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351683 - 12/29/08 04:40 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 12/03/08
Posts: 35
|
Quote:
Quote:
If they were genuinely unhappy with this situation then they can always leave the agency
Actually thats not true. Almost all of the legal talent agencies that are licensed and bonded with the state use a Division of Labor Standards and Enforcement approved contract that appears to be exclusive. So many of the performers that are unhappy with their agent are told they cant leave until their contract is up.
I get a lot of phone calls from performers looking to get out of their agency's contract.
ANY contract that calls for a person to work in unsafe and hazardous conditions is unenforceable. California law regarding blood borne pathogen exposure, like it or not, apply to the adult industry. The standard "Labor Board" contract does not allow for working in unsafe conditions. On shelley lubens website there used to be(it might still be there) a 'notification' form tos send to an agency in order to break your contract. Dont let any INDUSTRY sawyer tell you that you are sutck in a contradct that calls for you to work in unsafe conditions. It is simply not true.
The brooke ashley workers comp case settled all of this last year.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351684 - 12/29/08 06:04 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 459
Loc: California
|
Quote:
ANY contract that calls for a person to work in unsafe and hazardous conditions is unenforceable. California law regarding blood borne pathogen exposure, like it or not, apply to the adult industry. The standard "Labor Board" contract does not allow for working in unsafe conditions. On shelley lubens website there used to be(it might still be there) a 'notification' form tos send to an agency in order to break your contract. Dont let any INDUSTRY sawyer tell you that you are sutck in a contradct that calls for you to work in unsafe conditions. It is simply not true.
The brooke ashley workers comp case settled all of this last year.
The problem you have is that the contract will not call for the performer to work in a unsafe environment -- the producer will. Privity of contract is between the performer and the agent. Thus, unless the agent forces the performer to work in an unsafe environment, she cannot not unilaterally void her contract. She will still have to prove she was forced to work under unsafe conditions at a hearing.
What I will say is that if an agent forces a performer to do a scene that she opts not to complete because of her concern for her health or safety, (ie., the male talent has an obvious infection) that agent can lose that performer as well as his/her agency license if the Labor Board found the agents behavior to be egregious.
And the last time I checked Shelly Lubben was a former PW and hadnt graduated from law school. She probably shouldnt be giving legal advice since it may be considered to be practicing law without a license by the State Bar of California. So if you know Ms. Lubben personally, you may want to tell her to stick to saving souls - at least that doesnt require 7 yrs of education and bar exam.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351686 - 12/30/08 03:30 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 12/03/08
Posts: 35
|
The types of acts to be performed are discussed with the agent BEFORE the shoot, and that is how the amount of money paid to the performer is determined. The agent knows BEFOREHAND the situation,(no comdoms,no blood borne pathogen protection) the perfomer is to work under. Once an agent sends a performer to a shoot that he knows is illegal, the performer will have no problem having any "contract" with that agent voided. It is common knowledge that you cannot 'agree' to violate the law.
It is the agent who negotioates with the producer/director on behalf of his client(performer). The agent knows what the situation will be. Or the agent could lie and say he didnt know what was going on, in which case, he aint much of an agent.
A vast majority of porn performer/porn agent "contracts' are not worth the paper they are prited on.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351687 - 12/30/08 03:42 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 12/03/08
Posts: 35
|
Privity of contract is between performer and agent.....
The contract is for the agent to procure LEGAL work for the performer. ANY job that requires someone to work in violation of OSHA regulations is not legal. Because the agent negotiates beforehand and knows the work requires violation of OSHA regulations the 'conrtact' is worthless.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351689 - 12/30/08 04:34 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 12/03/08
Posts: 35
|
Quote:
Quote:
the work requires violation of OSHA regulations the 'conrtact' is worthless.
Especially if contract is misspelled ...
Coming from somone who has enough time to have over 8000 posts on a porn discussion board, I wouldnt expect you to have anything more intellignet to say other than pointing out spelling errors. How many hours of your obviously miserable life have you spent here? Sad indeed. Now pull up your pants and get out the baby wipes. You are truely pathetic. Maybe next year you will get invited to a christmas party in West Covina.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351690 - 12/30/08 05:06 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/14/06
Posts: 14755
Loc: Busy downloading [LEGALLY!]
|
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351692 - 12/30/08 06:47 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 459
Loc: California
|
Quote:
The types of acts to be performed are discussed with the agent BEFORE the shoot, and that is how the amount of money paid to the performer is determined. The agent knows BEFOREHAND the situation,(no comdoms,no blood borne pathogen protection) the perfomer is to work under. Once an agent sends a performer to a shoot that he knows is illegal, the performer will have no problem having any "contract" with that agent voided. It is common knowledge that you cannot 'agree' to violate the law.
And your law degree is from where ???
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351693 - 12/30/08 06:51 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Pervert
Registered: 04/21/04
Posts: 2204
|
Quote:
Quote:
The types of acts to be performed are discussed with the agent BEFORE the shoot, and that is how the amount of money paid to the performer is determined. The agent knows BEFOREHAND the situation,(no comdoms,no blood borne pathogen protection) the perfomer is to work under. Once an agent sends a performer to a shoot that he knows is illegal, the performer will have no problem having any "contract" with that agent voided. It is common knowledge that you cannot 'agree' to violate the law.
And your law degree is from where ???
probably the same place you got yours... a cracker jack box.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351696 - 12/30/08 08:42 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Pervert
Registered: 07/05/05
Posts: 2134
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
|
Quote:
Yes it was a $250,000 cracker jack box -- but it was well worth it.
because now you date vanessa blue and represent girls who have 10 bucks to their name in horseshit lawsuits? really, that makes it all worthwhile.
i like a man who has goals. some lawyers dream of arguing important cases, or making a difference in the community, and some just want a free blowjob from a girl looking to get out of her agent contract.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351697 - 12/30/08 09:26 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 11/22/08
Posts: 857
Loc: Northeast US
|
Vanessa Blue is fucking gross
_________________________
You just want to do a scene with me, so I'll make you look straight. - Gia Jordan to Stevie Why?
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351698 - 12/30/08 09:57 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Pervert
Registered: 10/02/08
Posts: 2058
|
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351699 - 12/30/08 11:42 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Human Garbage
Registered: 09/18/08
Posts: 1574
Loc: DIEGO!
|
Quote:
Quote:
Yes it was a $250,000 cracker jack box -- but it was well worth it.
because now you date vanessa blue and represent girls who have 10 bucks to their name in horseshit lawsuits? really, that makes it all worthwhile.
i like a man who has goals. some lawyers dream of arguing important cases, or making a difference in the community, and some just want a free blowjob from a girl looking to get out of her agent contract.
Don't be mean, Christian. Fattorosi graduated from Whittier Law School, which is an ABA-accredited law school somewhere in Orange County. It's ranked in the lowest tier of the US News and World Report law school rankings, but that survey is generally bullshit. What that usually means is that a law school like Whittier has relatively open admissions (elitist lawyers and judges value those schools which wouldn't let them in again), and then works its students hard to make good lawyers out of them. Those of us from top law schools dismiss the Whittier crowd at our peril.
According to WLS's website, 83% of its graduates passed the California bar the first time. My school's record is about 95%, which is not all that much better when you really think about it. The California bar is hard.
What I don't understand is how Fattorosi spent $250,000 at Whittier, unless he's counting the money he wasted going to American University. Whittier's tuition is $30K and room & board $11K. Shit, dude, if you're going to go to an average (or below-average) school, go to a cheap one. State colleges offer great value in this way.
As for Vanessa Blue, I've rubbed one out many a day while high as a kite, imagining her choking down my man-chowder.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351700 - 12/31/08 01:07 AM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 459
Loc: California
|
Quote:
Quote:
Yes it was a $250,000 cracker jack box -- but it was well worth it.
because now you date vanessa blue and represent girls who have 10 bucks to their name in horseshit lawsuits? really, that makes it all worthwhile.
i like a man who has goals. some lawyers dream of arguing important cases, or making a difference in the community, and some just want a free blowjob from a girl looking to get out of her agent contract.
Seriously ??? Werent you a teacher at some higher point in your life ? You gave up teaching -- or perhaps you were forced out of your job, but either way you end up having sex with anything with a pulse and you thrown stones???
Nothing is more noble than teaching... and now your goals are what exactly ?? 22 scenes a month ?
Perhaps a little self reflection is warranted on your part before you start judging.
Quote:
It's ranked in the lowest tier of the US News and World Report law school rankings, but that survey is generally bullshit. What that usually means is that a law school like Whittier has relatively open admissions (elitist lawyers and judges value those schools which wouldn't let them in again), and then works its students hard to make good lawyers out of them. Those of us from top law schools dismiss the Whittier crowd at our peril.
Sure I wish I could have gone to a top ranked law school, but my father died after a long drawn out battle with cancer in my junior/senior year of college. I left school to take care of him and it killed my GPA and I had to settle for Whittier. I will take private over public all day long...
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351702 - 12/31/08 01:30 AM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Human Garbage
Registered: 09/18/08
Posts: 1574
Loc: DIEGO!
|
Quote:
Quote:
According to WLS's website, 83% of its graduates passed the California bar the first time. My school's record is about 95%, which is not all that much better when you really think about it. The California bar is hard.
Don't make too much of bar exam rates. The bar exam generally tests state law. Some schools focus solely on that and get good pass rates. Other school put more emphasis on federal and law for multinational companies. A college roommate of mine went into multinational M&A after graduating and said that virtually none of his time in law school applied to the state bar exam...
My practice is corporate practice with an international focus and includes a large M&A component. This is on target, of course, but neglects the fact that what Fattorosi does is closer to "real lawyering" than what I do. I'm a generalized business consultant, really -- never seen the inside of a courtroom except for my own arraignment, and that's the way I plan to keep it!
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351703 - 12/31/08 01:49 AM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 459
Loc: California
|
Quote:
Don't make too much of bar exam rates. The bar exam generally tests state law. Some schools focus solely on that and get good pass rates.
Whittier has horrible passage rates... however, I didnt think that bar was really that difficult. But that was 12 yrs ago, I know the bar examiners have recently cranked it up and its getting more difficult. Even the grads from the top ranked schools arent passing on the first go-around now.
As for "real lawyering" in this industry... I have the utmost respect for Paul Cambria, Jeff Douglas, Alan Gelbard, Greg Piccionelli, Louis Sirkin, Clyde DeWitt, Larry Walters and all of the attorneys that defend First Amendment rights. Defending the Constitution as they do is something I do aspire to. We are in the process of filing/litigating our first, First Amendment claim. It is a steep learning curve though.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351704 - 01/24/09 05:22 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/05/09
Posts: 75
|
Quote:
On with the slag!
Holly West- don't know her work, but she is kinda frumpy looking like Katja. I'm going to leave this one to your personal taste.
Motha Fucka
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351708 - 01/10/10 05:53 AM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Pervert
Registered: 11/01/09
Posts: 2141
|
Attachments
462456-picture-2.jpg (11 downloads)
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351709 - 01/10/10 09:50 AM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 03/14/06
Posts: 589
|
Quote:
E for eeeeeeeeeee
Wow, Eva Angelina is looking rough. She could pass for 50 in that photo.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#351713 - 01/19/10 05:25 PM
Re: LA Direct's All New Low!
|
Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 4470
|
Quote:
http://www.xxxporntalk.com/ubbthreads/uploads/464925-0001.jpg[/image]
"Man, I wish that a tranny cock in my ass instead of her tongue...sigh!"
_________________________
Because you already yelled 'dropping prices!!!' after Red Light canned you. - Gia Jordan to Brandon Iron
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
0 registered (),
163
Guests and
2
Spiders online. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Fucking tragedy.
<< You, about a TYPO!
<< And, Kiss IT!!! 
wrote:
Previous Topic
Index
