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#346119 - 08/30/08 08:01 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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when has it been knocked down? I havent seen it.

and no, im not irate... as usual im sitting here laughing.
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#346120 - 08/30/08 08:06 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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6 things the Palin pick says about McCain


The selection of a running mate is among the most consequential, most defining decisions a presidential nominee can make. John McCain’s pick of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin says a lot about his decison-making — and some of it is downright breathtaking.


We knew McCain is a politician who relishes improvisation, and likes to go with his gut. But it is remarkable that someone who has repeatedly emphasized experience in this campaign named an inexperienced governor he barely knew to be his No. 2. Whatever you think of the pick, here are six things it tells us about McCain:


1. He’s desperate. Let’s stop pretending this race is as close as national polling suggests. The truth is McCain is essentially tied or trailing in every swing state that matters — and too close for comfort in several states like Indiana and Montana the GOP usually wins pretty easily in presidential races. On top of that, voters seem very inclined to elect Democrats in general this election — and very sick of the Bush years.


2. He’s willing to gamble — bigtime. Let’s face it: This is not the pick of a self-confident candidate. It is the political equivalent of a trick play or, as some Democrats called it, a Hail Mary pass in football. McCain talks incessantly about experience, and then goes and selects a woman he hardly knows, who hardly knows foreign policy and who can hardly be seen as instantly ready for the presidency.


3. He’s worried about the political implications of his age. Like a driver overcorrecting out of a swerve, he chooses someone who is two years younger than the youthful Obama, and 28 years younger than he is. (He turned 72 Friday.) The father-daughter comparison was inevitable when they appeared next to each other.


4. He’s not worried about the actuarial implications of his age. He thinks he’s in fine fettle, and Palin wouldn’t be performing the only constitutional duty of a vice president, which is standing by in case a president dies or becomes incapacitated. If he was really concerned about an inexperienced person sitting in the Oval Office we would be writing about vice presidential nominee Mitt Romney or Tom Ridge or Condoleezza Rice.


5. He’s worried about his conservative base. If he had room to maneuver, there were lots of people McCain could have selected who would have represented a break from Washington politics as usual. Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman comes to mind (and it certainly came to McCain’s throughout the process). He had no such room. GOP stalwarts were furious over trial balloons about the possibility of choosing a supporter of abortion rights, including the possibility that he would reach out to his friend.


6. At the end of the day, McCain is still McCain. People may find him a refreshing maverick, or an erratic egotist. In either event, he marches to his own beat.




Full source article here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/12997





It took three people to write that article.
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#346121 - 08/30/08 08:09 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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I havent seen it.





I know. But that's okay. Obama will heal your vision, just as soon as he comes back from his stroll across Lake Michigan.

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#346122 - 08/30/08 08:22 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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I havent seen it.





I know. But that's okay. Obama will heal your vision, just as soon as he comes back from his stroll across Lake Michigan.




playing the "messiah Obama" card when i've repetedly stated that he is not the perfect candidate, just the better choice out of what we have is just another example of weak arguments.

Give me one GOOD reason to vote for a third party candidate.

Or, if you want... Tell me how John McCain would be a good president, on both an economic and defense front. Without using the words Obama, Communist, or anything involving race.

Go.
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#346123 - 08/30/08 08:27 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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illiterate much?




Physician, heal thyself.

I don't think anyone's ever said that McCain would be a "good" president.

Just that your pal with the empathy problem would suck just as badly, and probably worse.

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#346124 - 08/30/08 08:46 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Didn't McCain graduate from the Naval Academy 5th from the bottom (894 out of 899)?

:banannaduncecap:



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#346125 - 08/30/08 09:38 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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A senior McCain source said Saturday that officials are considering turning the convention into a service event, a massive telethon to raise money for the Red Cross and other agencies to help with the hurricane.

Republican Govs. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Charlie Crist of Florida, Haley Barbour of Mississippi and Rick Perry of Texas -- whose states that lie in the path of Gustav, named a Category 4 hurricane Saturday afternoon -- will skip the GOP convention because of the storm.

Officials won't discuss in detail how McCain's plans might change. They won't talk about McCain in any detail, but he is likely to go Monday or Tuesday to an aid station in an area hit by the hurricane, if it continues on as expected.

Earlier Saturday, President Bush declared a state of emergency in Mississippi, following similar declarations in Louisiana and Texas.




IMAGINE that...if the Republican Convention had to benefit...ch...ch...CHARITY!

Southern Coast residents will soon get an up-close and personal look at what John McCain's offshore drilling platform plan means:

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#346126 - 08/30/08 09:43 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Stevie, you do realize those are built down here, right? One of the main yards for those is less than two miles from my house.

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#346127 - 08/31/08 02:43 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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i read in the local paper today that the obamas and the bidens ate breakfast yesterday morning at this shithole diner down the street from me called 'the yankee kitchen.' hussein had pancakes, bacon and three eggs over-medium, while joe biden had the french toast. whether or not barry was able to force himself to actually swallow evil, evil carbs was not mentioned. on another election note, i was talking with my mother the other day (cringe) and she asked me if, since she has relocated to another county (i kicked her out of the condo i bought her for mother's day 2000 and now she's living at my grandma's house), does she have to register to vote there? i told her no, she's all set. so one less ohio vote for obama, yay.
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#346128 - 08/31/08 03:35 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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wow, I don't know what to say
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#346129 - 08/31/08 03:39 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Quote:

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I havent seen it.





I know. But that's okay. Obama will heal your vision, just as soon as he comes back from his stroll across Lake Michigan.




You know all this "Obama is the Messiah" bullshit is just frustration because you don't want to consider him because he is black. And yet every day, it becomes clearer that he is the best choice.

How can you vote for McCain who made a totally reckless and impulsive pick with Sarah Palin. He only thought about the short term gain of maybe winning some fundie and dissaffected Hillary votes. But what happens if they actually win? What if he gets sick? He's risking the security of the nation on her?

Whereas ... time and time again Barack Obama has shown measured and steady leadership in his decisions.

-He's run a disciplined, successful campaign
-He pulled off a succesful convention that increased the unity of a fractured party
-He made a solid choice for VP.
-He was right about going to Iraq in the first place
-He was right about talking to Iran
-His idea for a pullout has been adopted by the Bush Admin.
-He surrounds himself with the best people and makes thoughtful, solid decisions.

But nah. You want the hot-headed "maverick".

In his acceptance speech Obama laid down the gauntlet. He challenged McCain on his temperament to be Commander in Chief. The unexpected power of his speech SHOOK McCain. Maybe he had another VP choice in mind initially. Maybe that choice turned him down cause they knew this election was going to be a loser.

BUT INSTEAD OF TAKING MORE TIME TO MAKE A MORE SUITBALE PICK HE PANICED AND TOOK A BIG GAMBLE ON PALIN. He wanted to beat the news cycle and blunt the wave of great press Obama's speech was receiving. That limited goal and winning votes was more important than actually considering the security of this nation should he actually WIN.

You want THAT kind of decision making as your Commander in Chief?

McCain, for all his positive qualities, thinks short term like the soldier he is. Obama sees the big picture and makes the BIG TIME STRATEGIC DECISIONS like a true leader. Its that kind of stewardship that protects this nation.



Edited by tritone (08/31/08 03:47 PM)

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#346130 - 08/31/08 03:52 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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on another election note, i was talking with my mother the other day (cringe) and she asked me if, since she has relocated to another county (i kicked her out of the condo i bought her for mother's day 2000 and now she's living at my grandma's house), does she have to register to vote there? i told her no, she's all set. so one less ohio vote for obama, yay.




You know Gigi, our choices in this election just suck anyway. All politicians lie to get your vote and then get in Washington and rob us blind.

Why not just sit this one out. And tell your mother that as well.

Or maybe vote for Bob Barr or write in Ron Paul. At least they are for REAL CHANGE.

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#346131 - 08/31/08 03:54 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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oh God....he is back.......but at least talking something of substance.....

he is not the messiah.....he is a politician.......politicians make choices which benefit himself....

I love how people say he was right on Iraq......how many Americans can say that.....especially those who wasn't even in the national legislature.....

The BP being the right choice.....depends on where you are....there is large part of the Democratic base that felt slighted by that choice and not just the Hilary supports....

I personally am sick and tired of him and his wife calming to be regular people like the rest of America.....bullshit they are elitist like the rest of the Democratic leadership....


Sorry I don't drink from the Barak koolaid.....but that doesn't mean i drink the McCain martini either. ..

I just wish the majority of post in this thread at least focused on the race and religion of a candidate...
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#346132 - 08/31/08 03:54 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Epic fail. If elected, Obama will raise taxes, expand the welfare state, weaken education standards, waste even more of taxpayers' money on Africa "development"(guns, bling-bling and wimminz for local dictators) etc.

In any rational society, a a candidate who promises bigger taxes will end up losing the elections. The question is if America is still a rational society after years of brainwashing from the leftist/socialists education system and media.

Besides, I think you're just butthurt because Sarah Palin doesn't do IR.
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#346133 - 08/31/08 04:02 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Why not just sit this one out.


of all the ridiculous things i've heard come out of your mouth, that has got to be the winner. not vote? are you KIDDING?
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#346134 - 08/31/08 04:05 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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XXXBit writes:
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oh God....he is back.......but at least talking something of substance.....

he is not the messiah.....he is a politician.......politicians make choices which benefit himself....





OK. Fair enough. But with everything you have seen and everything you know, can you agree that Obama is less of a risk than McCain. Assuming that you are not idealogically opposed to Democrats.

And BTW, if you were a Hillary supporter, I agree she ran a great race. But its over now. Its time to have unity. Don't dare sit this one out or make a protest vote for McCain.

BTW, Tune in to 60 minutes NOW. Obama and Biden will be interviewed. You will get a sneak peak at the crack team that will take us into the future!

(P.S. - And BTW -- Obama married a true SISTER! I mean that's gotta win some points with you. He could've gone with a white girl but he didn't. He embraces his black side!)


Edited by tritone (08/31/08 04:07 PM)

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#346135 - 08/31/08 04:32 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Just for teh lulz

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#346136 - 08/31/08 04:42 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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I oppose a lot of what he stands for and that is on a ideology basis.....I have always loved McCain the senator and disappointed with McCain the presidential candidate......

Obama scares me with the whole "chicken in every pot" promises....to me that means higher taxes.....and I personally feel I pay too much for what I get in return..

and no I was not a Hilary supporter and if I was if Obama campaign embraced them with the way I was embraced at the office on Friday.....I would be screaming for a temp split...

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#346137 - 08/31/08 04:45 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Can I ask what has disappointed you so much, Miss XXXbit?
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#346138 - 08/31/08 04:46 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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You know all this "Obama is the Messiah" bullshit is just frustration because you don't want to consider him because he is black.








I take it you missed it above where I plugged Harold Ford Jr. not once, but twice. Consider this a third plug.


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Sorry I don't drink from the Barak koolaid.....but that doesn't mean i drink the McCain martini either. ..







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#346139 - 08/31/08 05:02 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Xxxbit:

You are a teacher.

Obama is going to gut No Child Left Behind and increase your salary. If you are a GOOD teacher (which I suspect you are), you will get merit bonuses. He is on YOUR side, baby!


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#346140 - 08/31/08 05:21 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Obama is certainly the lesser evil to a man who wants to be a warlord (Iran, Russia) and his eminently fuckable running mate, who believes that "creationism" ought to be required to be taught as science in the public schools and that victims of rape ought to be required to bear the children of their attackers.

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#346141 - 08/31/08 05:42 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
Gigi Offline
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what do you guys think about the rumor that governor palin's recent pregnancy was faked and was, in fact, a cover story for her eldest daughter's teen pregnancy?

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223
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#346142 - 08/31/08 05:45 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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I'm more shocked that you posted a Daily Kos link.

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#346143 - 08/31/08 05:51 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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ha. i just got the link from perez or tmz or some shit. but what do you think? mama or grandmama?
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#346144 - 08/31/08 05:52 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Quote:

what do you guys think about the rumor that governor palin's recent pregnancy was faked and was, in fact, a cover story for her eldest daughter's teen pregnancy?

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223




I'm not a big conspiracy buff fan, but the more I hear about her 44 year old pregnancy and Down's Syndrome kid, either I think its a conspiracy or she has some of the worst judgment a mother can possibly have.

Either way its equally shocking.
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#346145 - 08/31/08 06:08 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Tri......No Child Left Behind does not need to be gutted...it needs to be revamped (it has made schools that put out shit products for decades start coming up with ways to do better).....accessing students based on a standardized test is wrong....it only measures kids based on the norm group........which means by design some schools and students will always fail due to the results being standardized.......kids need to be measured based on a standardized criteria but against their own growth not against a norm referenced group.....i.e..they come in to you 2 grades below level and leave 3 grades below... NOT GOOD...cause you as a teacher didn't do shit...but if said student leaves you even only 1 year below..you rocked cause you taught in 1 year 3 years of growth....not up to par with the normed group but still a tremendous increase in academic growth

next.....he is NOT for merit pay.........This much I know even without combing through the platform (school starts Tuesday so will do that within the next week)

and the bonuses.....yeah I laugh.....if they were going to really be based on things it would be actually based on analyzing the data of where kids come in prior to the test and seeing the skills and content kids are missing, targeting those areas and again analyzing the test results after the test and comparing that to assess growth........But don't expect Washington to come with any real solutions on that.......they are full of empty promises and sound bytes...

and even just even... I wouldn't get a bonus cause i don't know if you noticed what, but what I teach isn't tested in most states at the high school level, so does that mean that what I teach isn't important....it is important....it just isn't Science, Reading or Math....so as a nation it isn't valued compared to the others...

We did the above system when I taught middle school and results flew through the roof...the principal made a good name for himself and moved on to bigger district and school down south somewhere.......but that stands to me the best way to use standardized tests in a manner that benefits kids....but it is labor intensive...

Schools can best be reformed at the state and district level....NOT WASHINGTON....

Dak'kon.....I posted what happened on Friday..
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#346146 - 08/31/08 06:13 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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If she covered her teenage daughter pregnancy I say kudos....she figured out a way for her daughter to move on with her life without becoming a burden to the state and her daughter's life being more difficult by being a teenage mom......


and if not....a prolifer who put her money where her mouth was by practicing what she preached
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#346147 - 08/31/08 06:15 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Schools can best be reformed at the state and district level....NOT WASHINGTON....




The concern with this is that in various counties, the school board might be stacked with Fundamentalists who talk in tongues whilst handling rattlesnakes.
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#346148 - 08/31/08 06:17 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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but then isn't it easier to isolate the problem......the problem with schools in Wisconsin is not the same as in Mississippi nor have the same resources........but Washington solutions doesn't take all that into account
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#346149 - 08/31/08 06:23 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Quote:

Tri......




XXXbit, I'll let you check out his platform as you said. But based on what you've written here I think you're going to like it.

My language that he was going "gut" NCLB was a bit extreme. He is going to reform it in many of the ways you mentioned. Having only a single test per year and also making progress assesments based on relative acheivement, not fixed goals.

As he's said in many of his town halls, he wants teachers free to be "creative and inspiring".


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#346150 - 08/31/08 06:34 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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XXX Bit-an old friend of mine from thirty years ago is now a high school principal and despite being a registered Republican, he believes that No Child Left Behind is destroying public schools,

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#346151 - 08/31/08 06:50 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Registered: 04/12/07
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Tri...I have read what he has said during the primary it is the Democratic platform that was updated and approved last week I have not read yet......and I for one and not a believer that the answer to American Schools across the board is found in Washington


Ivor......NCLB is more bad than good....that much I agree but with but we can also agree that something needed to be done......i just disagree that the directive and/or sanctions/judgment needs to come from Washington....

hell depending on the school NCLB doesn't mean shit....Evanston H.S in IL made it to the NCLB "school in need of improvement" and what effect other than bad press does that have on them.....none...why cause they didn't receive any of the federal funds......so the threat or possibility of losing them meant nothing.......the school district still will have people attempting to ditch their Chicago address to gain an Evanston one...

but that is whole different story
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#346152 - 09/01/08 08:46 AM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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#346153 - 09/01/08 10:16 AM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Palin's 17 year old daughter is knocked up, my hopes of a few Supreme Court Justices who will protect the 1st and 2nd Amendment's being appointed in the next 4 years went down the drain.

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN2944356420080901?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true

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#346154 - 09/01/08 10:28 AM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
Anonymous
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my hopes of a few Supreme Court Justices who will protect the 1st and 2nd Amendment's being appointed in the next 4 years went down the drain.




Okay, I understand the argument about the First Amendment, though I don't necessarily buy it. But the Second?


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#346155 - 09/01/08 10:31 AM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
XXXbit Offline
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Palin's 17 year old daughter is knocked up,




wow I just logged on to post that.......you all are too fast
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#346156 - 09/01/08 09:06 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Okay, I understand the argument about the First Amendment, though I don't necessarily buy it. But the Second?





because he clearly has no idea what he's talking about or he believes everything he reads on the kos and nytimes.

here is the cult of personality's record on the 2nd amend. before he decided to flip flop.

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A candidate questionnaire shows that Mr. Obama supported a ban on handguns in 1996. In 1998, he backed a ban on the sale of all semiautomatic guns (a ban that would encompass the vast majority of guns sold in the U.S.) In 2004, he advocated banning gun sales within five miles of a school or park (essentially a ban on all guns sold in almost all the states). Possibly, even more importantly, he served on the board of the Joyce Foundation, probably the largest private funder of anti-gun and pro-ban groups and research in the country.

The Obama campaign “flatly denied” the 1996 statement supporting a ban on handguns, blaming it instead on a staffer from his state senate race who they said had incorrectly filled out the candidate questionnaire. But the Politico obtained a copy of the statement and found Mr. Obama’s own handwritten notes on it indicating that he had personally checked and corrected answers.




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#346157 - 09/01/08 09:34 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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because he clearly has no idea what he's talking about or he believes everything he reads on the kos and nytimes.





Well, Here's one article in the NY Times I'm happy to believe:

U.S. Hands Back a Quieter Anbar

RAMADI, Iraq — Two years ago, Anbar Province was the most lethal place for the Americans in Iraq, with a marine or a soldier dying here nearly every day. The provincial capital, Ramadi, was a moonscape of rubble and ruins. Islamic extremists controlled large pieces of territory, with some so ferocious in their personal views that they did not even allow the sale of bread.

On Monday, following a parade on a freshly paved street, American commanders formally returned responsibility for keeping order in Anbar Province, once the heartland of the Sunni insurgency, to the Iraqi Army and police force. The ceremony capped one of the starkest turnabouts in the country since the war began five and a half years ago.

In the past two years, the number of insurgent attacks against Iraqis and Americans in Anbar Province has dropped by more than 90 percent. Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, a homegrown Sunni Arab extremist group that American intelligence agencies have concluded is led by foreigners, has been severely degraded, if not crushed altogether. Since February, as the situation improved, American commanders have cut the number of marines and soldiers here by more than a third, they said.

The transfer of authority codified a transformation that Iraqi and American officers say has been in effect since April: the Iraqi Army and the police operate independently and retain primary responsibility for battling the insurgency and crime in Anbar. The Americans, who had long done the bulk of the fighting, have stepped into a backup role. With the transfer on Monday, Iraq now bears the primary responsibility for maintaining security in 11 of its 18 provinces.


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Of course, the adventures of an Alaskan Teenager are far more important than something as trivial as stabilizing Iraq and redeploying the troops without our tails between our legs.


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#346158 - 09/02/08 01:27 AM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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^^^ That's wonderful, seriously, but it should have been happening in month 5, not year 5!
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#346159 - 09/02/08 01:46 AM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Triton, you are getting closer and closer to this with your tired campaigning for Obama.

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#346160 - 09/02/08 04:18 AM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Triton, you are getting closer and closer to this with your tired campaigning for Obama.




hey lets be supportive he listened to all of us and is trying to find new hobbies..
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#346161 - 09/02/08 05:35 AM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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That's wonderful, seriously, but it should have been happening in month 5, not year 5!




Should have? Hell, we shouldn't have gone in there in the first place. It was a strategic blunder of the highest magnitude, forget all the tactical blunders that kept us there all this additional time.

Having said that, though, passively hoping for our defeat to prove it was the wrong decision for political points is as disgusting as hoping for a hurricane to kill scores and uproot thousands just to disrupt the other party's convention.* I should think, as an old Navy hand, you of all people would get that.





*Oh, wait: Looks like that one didn't come to pass, either.

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#346162 - 09/02/08 06:07 AM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Triton, you are getting closer and closer to this with your tired campaigning for Obama.




hey lets be supportive he listened to all of us and is trying to find new hobbies..




Sigh, I guess you have a point...

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#346163 - 09/02/08 12:06 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Should have? Hell, we shouldn't have gone in there in the first place. It was a strategic blunder of the highest magnitude, forget all the tactical blunders that kept us there all this additional time.

Having said that, though, passively hoping for our defeat to prove it was the wrong decision for political points is as disgusting as hoping for a hurricane to kill scores and uproot thousands just to disrupt the other party's convention.* I should think, as an old Navy hand, you of all people would get that.




Never said or implied that I hoped we'd lose. When politicians declare war they should stay the hell out of it until the generals come back to them and say it's won.
Soldiers know how to fight wars, politicians don't.

The "Surge" should have happened when war was first declared, not years later. It's the Vietnam political mentality all over again.


As far as natural disasters go, I've always been fascinated by the mentality (or lack there of) of people who constantly battle against nature, living in artificially created environs that are repeatedly overwhelmed by the natural order of things.

How many times does your house need to be washed away before you decide building in a natural flood plane is a bad idea?

How good of an idea is it to live in a city that is below sea level, which is dependent on maintaining the artificial location of the delta of one of the largest rivers in the world, while destroying the natural coastal protections in a hurricane prone region?

I don't "passively hope" for anything. I'm just mystified by the apparent human need to constantly beat our collective heads against a brick wall.

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#346164 - 09/02/08 12:16 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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And when exactly was the war declared?
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#346165 - 09/02/08 12:34 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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^^^ October 16th, 2002 - H.J. Resolution 114; Military engagements authorized by Congress.
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#346166 - 09/02/08 12:47 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Having said that, though, passively hoping for our defeat to prove it was the wrong decision for political points is as disgusting as hoping for a hurricane to kill scores and uproot thousands just to disrupt the other party's convention.* I should think, as an old Navy hand, you of all people would get that.






I assume you are talking about Michael Moore on Olbermann. Olbermann never even asked a follow up question demanding Moore to explain why the suffering of millions of people in Louisiana should be praised and cheered. If this would have happened a week earlier and the sentiment expressed by Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, or Bill O'Reilly I would be willing to bet two, used but still in good working condition, testicles that they would have been #1 on Olbermann's Worst Person in the World list. But Moore is one of the enlightened, tolerant, and compassionate ones so he is granted complete and total immunity from any shit that is spewn from his fat mouth.
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#346167 - 09/02/08 12:51 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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^^^ October 16th, 2002 - H.J. Resolution 114; Military engagements authorized by Congress.




You know what declaration of war is don't you?
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#346168 - 09/02/08 12:54 PM Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Soldiers know how to fight wars, politicians don't.

The "Surge" should have happened when war was first declared, not years later. It's the Vietnam political mentality all over again.





Just so you know, Bush insisted on "The Surge" against the advice of many of his Generals. Looks like on this little detail, at least, he was correct.

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