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#26053 - 05/12/04 11:25 AM Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
TonyMalice Offline
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From AVN.COM

LOS ANGELES - Lara Roxxx, the adult performer who tested HIV positive on April 15, is planning to sue American producers for "several million dollars," according to an online report from the Canada-based news agency Quebecor Media/Canoe.

Roxxx, a native of Montreal, claims the producers were "not employing all the methods available" to protect her from contracting the virus, the report says.

It is unclear from the report, which originates in French, which producers Roxxx is intending to sue. Both Roxxx and her attorney, Daniel Lighter, did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment Wednesday.

Meanwhile, the 21-year-old performer was briefly profiled on Entertainment Tonight Tuesday.

ET reporter Jann Carl interviewed Roxxx in the studio, where she calmly discussed her thoughts on doing porn and becoming infected with the virus.

Roxxx said getting HIV "makes you realize how fragile life really is."

During the two-minute segment, Carl asked Roxxx was it worth it?

"No," she responded. "I have a disease in my body now because of it."

Roxxx said that during her teenage years her parents fought and eventually divorced and her decision to do porn was partially in reaction to her parents.

"I was just pretending to be happy about it," Roxxx told Carl. "I thought $2,000 a day sounded attractive. I expected that I could go and sleep with whoever I wanted and I thought that the actresses ruled."

ET reported that Roxxx is currently living with her mother outside of Montreal and that she is "worried that she'll be kicked out." The show said Roxxx is interested in a career in fashion design.

Roxxx contracted the virus from Darren James after performing in a double anal scene with he and Mark Anthony on March 24. She had just started performing in U.S. video productions in February after being primarily an Internet performer.

Roxxx said she worries about "dying too early, too soon, too young."

She is also planning to start a charity foundation to help those infected with HIV.

AVN.com will update this story with comments from Roxxx and her attorney.
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#26054 - 05/12/04 11:50 AM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
DukeAbercrombie1 Offline
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Registered: 10/27/03
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i found the interview clip from mr marcus forum
http://et.tv.yahoo.com/popups/media.html?wmp100=6092021&wmp300=6092023&wmp56=6092025

i really do feel bad for her. she was just another girl making a xxx movie when, bam, she really gets fucked and now had teh hiv.

thank you darren james! thanks alot! darren james rules! too bad he got stopped before he could sentence 100s of other beautiful woman(and men) to death.
he should get a career change into a hollywood stunt coordinator and load all the guns with live ammo!
i feel soo bad for the guy, not the innocents he maliciously infected
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#26055 - 05/12/04 11:50 AM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
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Registered: 10/29/03
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She ain't gonna win, just gonna bring bad pr and court costs down on some people, beeaatchh!
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#26056 - 05/12/04 12:31 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
TrinityJames Offline
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Registered: 12/01/03
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Loc: california
Ok I am going to rant again for a minute because she makes this whole industry look bad

For one she is 18, she is 21 and I have heard so many ages and now she is giving a story that the company pretty much made her do it. HELLO if you are going to let any person tell you to do something you dont want to do then this was the wrong business.

And I would like to know how she plans to win anything by suing them, this is the sex industry
The first time I ever went to AIM to get my first test to do a scene they took me back to the back, sat me down and counseled me. They asked me would you be doing non-condom work and I said yes this is what they said...Are you aware of the risks you are taking and explained to me that there is a risk of catching a STD or even HIV, but I still agreed. It means I am taking the chance just as she did, we all know the risk yeah it may be more than other people but this is our job I dont expect to catch the virus during my career but I dont walk around thinking I will never catch it. This would be like being a police officer and saying you will never get shot doing your duty.
I feel bad for them all but again its the risk we take we have all taken the risk...cant blame patient zero and they cant blame the company it was the risk she took when she stuck two dicks inside her ass...Oh yeah and excuse me I love it in my ass but I havent done double anal and I know this I would never do it just because a company said I had to for the shoot ....I hope noone takes this the wrong way because that is not what I meant to do. I meant to open peoples eyes, this is our job we take a chance of getting this deadly virus everyday we walk onto a set..OK I do agree with her reasons if they all knew Darren had HIV or forged the tests I would be agreeing with her and how she is going about it but he didnt know so her reasons are useless. Yeah I think that people shouldnt be going out of the country to shoot but thats not my call to make ...
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#26057 - 05/12/04 12:48 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
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Registered: 12/03/03
Posts: 255
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What do prostitutes and attorneys have in common? They both love money and will do pretty much anything, ethical or not, to get it. I don't see why anyone's surprised here...

I'd be willing to bet Jessica Dee and M. Arroyo have been contacted by numerous ambulance chasers. Shit, I'm sure that there's a lawyer out there who thinks Darren James has a case. He could sue Brazil!

Plus, everyone knows lawyers love to see their face on TV.
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#26058 - 05/12/04 01:14 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
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Registered: 04/27/04
Posts: 91
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How come it took getting hiv to become so sensitive to it ? What percent of her 2000 a day would she have donated? I think people in and out of the porn biz know the dangers of hiv. she defines whore, first she is like poor me (internet slut) wants to fuck on film and get paid. Bottom line wants to fuck for money. Second poor me now I have hiv and I want to be a whore all over again by fucking someone else out of their money in the court of law. Everyone knows that sooner or later shit like this is going to happen so ultimately you can only blame yourself.


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#26059 - 05/12/04 05:32 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
DukeAbercrombie1 Offline
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fug no

i totally disagree.

people in the industry should be safe.

the industry should be safe.

thats like driving a ford car or whatever, and then having the stereo blow up and catching the whole car on fire. its not the drivers fault even tho he knew the risks before getting in

anyways. thats imho.

it doesnt matter if roxx is really stupid or a jerk in person, that could have been anyone. and that anyone should never have been exposed to an evil dirty person that doesnt know they have AIDs.
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#26060 - 05/12/04 05:33 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
Sabre Offline
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Registered: 11/26/03
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Loc: Southern CA
She's a dumb kid. It'll get tossed out. I skydive and this is a lot like when someone bounces and their family tries to sue....you can't really prove negligence when the risk is inherent. The director shot people with current tests that didn't happen to have shown a new infection....
Tough luck but damn...did she think that $2000 a day was for her personality?
And on another note, don't most model releases release the producer/director/lighting guy/whoever happens to be there from any liability if the talent catches something? Or did porn valley change a lot since I left in December?

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#26061 - 05/12/04 06:08 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
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Registered: 01/25/04
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If she wins, you know this is going to open the flood gates for other porn chicks to sue.

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#26062 - 05/12/04 06:10 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
jamesn Offline
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Registered: 04/17/04
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that's like saying alaskan fishermen should be safe. same as the guys involved in the gold rush. the job is for the young, not averse to risk, and it pays what most of them have no hope of making in a mainstream job with their education level and purported lack of reliability. the job, condoms or not, exposes you to the bodily fluids of a large number of people you don't know closely. they deserve to have something like aim, working to make sure they don't get sick, but that doesn't change the reality of what they are doing and getting paid well for. reading the lara bios, it wasn't a choice between bear stearns and porn, for a dumb, fucked-up kid like that already stripping, you'd have to assume there was a decent chance she'd(or was) be fucking people for money without AIM, crews, and an agent making sure she wasn't rotting with a pin still in her arm. I don't hate her, I feel bad, she didn't have good luck, tons of others made decent money and lived, and she still might. Even if she didn't get sick, the girl just seemed to have fate going against her, a kind of promiscous, canadian tragic/iphegenia-type deal-would her life have been happy without getting into porn? doubtful.
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fug no

i totally disagree.

people in the industry should be safe.

the industry should be safe.

thats like driving a ford car or whatever, and then having the stereo blow up and catching the whole car on fire. its not the drivers fault even tho he knew the risks before getting in

anyways. thats imho.

it doesnt matter if roxx is really stupid or a jerk in person, that could have been anyone. and that anyone should never have been exposed to an evil dirty person that doesnt know they have AIDs.



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#26063 - 05/12/04 07:16 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
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I hope Johnnie Cochrane represents the studios - " If 2 dicks fit, you must aquit. "

Honestly, I feel bad for her and everyone else aflicted, but there is no way in hell this will ever go to trial. She doesn't sound to bright and also seems gullible which makes perfect whore material.
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#26064 - 05/12/04 07:18 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
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It sucks if she does sue, but you can't blame her. i mean she caught aids at the workplace, she is entitled to be protected at work just like everyone else is. Its hard to get angry at her for it. If anything it will just slow down productions in the future until all recent tests are in, thats all.
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#26065 - 05/12/04 08:00 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
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Registered: 10/18/03
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Ok I am going to rant again for a minute because she makes this whole industry look bad

For one she is 18, she is 21 and I have heard so many ages and now she is giving a story that the company pretty much made her do it. HELLO if you are going to let any person tell you to do something you dont want to do then this was the wrong business.

And I would like to know how she plans to win anything by suing them, this is the sex industry
The first time I ever went to AIM to get my first test to do a scene they took me back to the back, sat me down and counseled me. They asked me would you be doing non-condom work and I said yes this is what they said...Are you aware of the risks you are taking and explained to me that there is a risk of catching a STD or even HIV, but I still agreed. It means I am taking the chance just as she did, we all know the risk yeah it may be more than other people but this is our job I dont expect to catch the virus during my career but I dont walk around thinking I will never catch it. This would be like being a police officer and saying you will never get shot doing your duty.
I feel bad for them all but again its the risk we take we have all taken the risk...cant blame patient zero and they cant blame the company it was the risk she took when she stuck two dicks inside her ass...Oh yeah and excuse me I love it in my ass but I havent done double anal and I know this I would never do it just because a company said I had to for the shoot ....I hope noone takes this the wrong way because that is not what I meant to do. I meant to open peoples eyes, this is our job we take a chance of getting this deadly virus everyday we walk onto a set..OK I do agree with her reasons if they all knew Darren had HIV or forged the tests I would be agreeing with her and how she is going about it but he didnt know so her reasons are useless. Yeah I think that people shouldnt be going out of the country to shoot but thats not my call to make ...
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I totally agree with Trinity about all said above. I do recall even being there with Trinity on her first test and the countless questions she asked as well as what I explained to her when she first stepped into the business. All these questions were asked by her like any new girl in the business. I do recall suggesting to Trinity not to do anal for at least a year and never do something you feel uncomfortable doing.

One last comment on above. I do think that any talent who works or comes from overseas, they should go into a quarantine period of at least 45 days. At least that would help in some way of protecting our talent.

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#26066 - 05/12/04 09:01 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
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Registered: 08/03/03
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I'd ask a CA attorney if there is any "strict liability" is involved. This isn’t sky-diving: she was paid by TT, not the other way around. Otherwise she has to meet the low threshold for civil cases. I'd say TT needs to hire a really good attorney right now, and be ready to swallow his pride and take a good settlement if he can get one.

Anyone else who shot scenes with her, even without Darren, should probably erase (not just delete) everything, right now. It's too late if you wait to see if her lawyer is interested. I mean masters, bloopers, cutting-room fragments, notes, paperwork – everything you aren’t required to retain by law. You want nothing a motivated lawyer might twist into showing she was placed at risk, even innocent-seeming director's instructions.

Make notes of every bit of evidence there is of Lara hooking, especially names and dates. If it gets into an effort to show she probably got HIV on a given shoot every bit helps to show she may have got it elsewhere too. This may not matter for TT but may for anyone else.

Finally general rules:

1. Incorporate everything. Never do any business personally, always through a corporation. Never mix roles of corporate entities.
2. Carry general business liability insurance. This probably isn’t easy to get for porn but without it the corporation probably doesn’t work.
3. Don’t leave extra cash in the corporation. Take the tax hit and pay it out. Between government and lawyer risk leaving money in the company is too risky.

As for “Can you sue for that”: my dad was an attorney and his usual reply was “You never know you can’t until you try, and you aren’t sure until you’ve tried a few times.”
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#26067 - 05/12/04 09:10 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
jamesn Offline
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Registered: 04/17/04
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it's tough to think of a high-risk profession proving to be high-risk as a tragedy when the countless scenes that went off safely pay performers within a few hundred dollars of what families live off in rwanda in a year. these are adults, fucking strangers isn't low-risk-it's a choice that had the worst possible results, unlike the shitload of kids whose life determinism is to be born sick, die in a shallow grave, and never get a dime from jenna. it's terrible when dangers prove real, but they could have done something else less-lucrative where paper-cuts are what you dread. africa's tragic-this is a sad, unfortunate incident.

the talent healthcare fund already exists, she'll be given better health care by the canadian government than most of the world's population could dream of, china and india having such a big chunk off the bat. here, here, even if you're the rightest of the religious right, you pay taxes, which are going to amusingly pay for an african-american porn actor with HIV's tab resultant of both outsourcing to brazil and sleeping with white women. if i knew any people like that, i would taunt them. .if you're not a hopeless junkie or mentally ill and homeless, often the most visible/sob stories of the infected, you'll get medical attention and drugs if you show up, which the aforementioned groups can't do and are already physically wrecks. having no money doesn't damn you to dying in a gutter, i found multiple free clinics mentioning treatment using azt and the like.

It's impossible to feel anything but sympathy, but it all comes back to the reality that you're exposing yourself voluntarily to bodily fluid, fecal matter, and possibly blood, all of which can make you sick or kill you, latex or not. the talent knows this, 99.xx% of the talent gambles right, gets paid a lot and gets a taste, however bastardized of stardom without needing to look like the real cindy crawford or having any other marketable talents.

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It sucks if she does sue, but you can't blame her. i mean she caught aids at the workplace, she is entitled to be protected at work just like everyone else is. Its hard to get angry at her for it. If anything it will just slow down productions in the future until all recent tests are in, thats all.


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#26068 - 05/12/04 09:19 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
Red Light Misfit Offline
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Registered: 01/25/04
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I personally like the idea of having performers who shoot overseas take 45 days off, but I doubt you'd get talent to agree to that since that's 45 days that they're not making money.

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#26069 - 05/12/04 09:53 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
Kryptic Offline
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Registered: 02/12/04
Posts: 39
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I guess I am gonna have to agree with most of you, Pornstars know the risks going in. Any Adult performer that goes around with the "It Won't Happen To Me" syndrome should get out of the valley as fast as fuckin possible. If you do porn you will catch an STD at some point and chances are high that if you stay in long enough you will get HIV. Get in make your money and get the fuck out, if you are making 20 grand a month and you aren't saving any of that....well god help you when you get done with porn. Porn is not a career, it is a job. Anyone that thinks they are gonna make a career out of porn is deluded. Sure a few girls can make it 10 years and beyond, but that is pretty rare. The bottom line for porn is you are gonna be fucking total strangers and doing some crazy shit that you probably wouldn't normally do. But I say getting paid to do what most of us do anyways, fucking strangers, is the greatest thing since the dildo, 2 chicks and them being bored enough to break some taboo's.

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#26070 - 05/13/04 07:11 AM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
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This is a joke!! People who partake in dangerous jobs don't automatically sue! A fireman runs into a burning building and gets killed. Is his family going to sue? Michael Schumacher drives his Formula 1 Ferrari into a tire wall at 180 mph after his brakes fail and is killed. Will his family sue? NO!

There are risks in our business, and people need to take responsibility for things that, sadly, will happen. No matter what we do, this is likely to happen again. You CAN get an HIV test right now, test negative, but still have the infection. And potentially still spread it.

TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS AND THE CONSEQUENCES THAT CAN HAPPEN.

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#26071 - 05/13/04 09:03 AM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
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Registered: 10/27/03
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"It's impossible to feel anything but sympathy, but it all comes back to the reality that you're exposing yourself voluntarily to bodily fluid, fecal matter, and possibly blood, all of which can make you sick or kill you, latex or not. the talent knows this, 99.xx% of the talent gambles right, gets paid a lot and gets a taste, however bastardized of stardom without needing to look like the real cindy crawford or having any other marketable talents"

it that were the case. would you have sex with a girl who has already had sex 1000 of times in the safe industry or with a girl who has NO test. same risk to you right? i mean pron stars shouldnt even need tests. and if you catch something deadly, its your fault. not the producers who disregard employee safetly.

A fireman runs into a burning building and gets killed. Is his family going to sue? Michael Schumacher drives his Formula 1 Ferrari into a tire wall at 180 mph after his brakes fail and is killed. Will his family sue? NO!

If the Fireman's flame retardent suit and helmet were NOT regulated and did not meet any specifications, and burst into flames... or if the $12,0000 F1 brakes rotors were really kmart brand sold by unscrupulous 3rd party and burst into flames"

this isnt a case where she had double v and broke her hips or suffered mental trauma. she caught something that never should have made it through the studio doors in the first place.

say for a moment, she loses. and everything is alright. what if this trend continues and a random homo that was let thru the door infects another beautiful aspiring model with dizeases? the standerds should make it so that the safest place to make dirty raw sex is in the american xxx industry, as it should be. any producer who disregards the 1 proirity, which is stds...
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#26072 - 05/13/04 09:52 AM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
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Anyone who does anything dangerous or risky has to know the consequences involved.Its called "Assumption of Risks". When I get in the ring or mat, I know I could get seriously injured or killed. When I tore a hip muscle, I was out for 6 months; I didnt sue my opponent or promoter. I knew the risks and signed a waiver.Its part of the game.

Doing porn has certain risks like any other job.If you are not prepared for the consequences,then dont do it.
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#26073 - 05/13/04 10:53 AM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
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im not saying that she deserves to win, or if its okay for a racecar driver to sue, - assuming they all signed the fine print

getting simple stds are fine, but getting a life/death sentence because of a simple overlook? dont you think that its a bit unfair?
so a bad individual takes it on himself to lie about all his tests and give ALL actors in the business Aids.
whoopty do, everyone dies. no one responsible, its thier fault for doing it in the first place!
hey, while we're at it, lets rigg all NASCAR brakes to fail in the middle of races. hey they signed the contract, who cares if they die. screw safetly regulations.
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#26074 - 05/13/04 12:39 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
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This is a joke!! People who partake in dangerous jobs don't automatically sue! Michael Schumacher drives his Formula 1 Ferrari into a tire wall at 180 mph after his brakes fail and is killed. Will his family sue? NO!







hold on there sport. ayrton senna(a race car driver that crashed and died) still has a case before the courts. and his estate will more then likely win. why? because even though his job was high risk , it was'nt supposed to be an automatic death sentence.

so , yes you can sue when workplace safety is not met or cared about. and seeing as the government would love nothing better then to try to "clean up" this industry she might havesome people "helping" her out with this lawsuit.

either way it should be interesting

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#26075 - 05/13/04 12:42 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
Kami Andrews Offline
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Registered: 01/25/04
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this isnt a mark wallace case, darren did not intentionally infect anyone, or lie

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#26076 - 05/13/04 01:07 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
TrinityJames Offline
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Registered: 12/01/03
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Loc: california
everthing they could do they did they didnt know that two weeks later darren would test hiv positive and noone overlooked anything they just didntknow in time
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#26077 - 05/13/04 08:51 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
JRV Offline
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so , yes you can sue when workplace safety is not met or cared about. and seeing as the government would love nothing better then to try to "clean up" this industry she might havesome people "helping" her out with this lawsuit.




First things first: I'm assuming this is a contingency-fee arrangement, so her attorney is motivated to spend as little as possible on the case (since the costs come out of the lawyer's pocket) and to settle rather than go to trial. If Lara could afford to pay for the case her lawyer's motivations would be the opposite: drag out a trial and run up the costs. Everything should be looked at from the lawyer’s perspective because the lawyer is out to make money for itself, not Lara.

Her side may be better off avoiding accepting government assistance, if any is offered. It opens up the possibility for defense to really drag out evidence gathering by insisting on access to all of the government evidence via cross-examination (costs her lawyer money). The government may also not want to see their activities or evidence made public early and may not want their people on the witness stand under oath.

I’ve never been involved with something like this but based on other experience I would guess that TT’s and Lara’s sides will do a mini-presentation to each other to show how strong their cases are and then they will haggle over a settlement to avoid a trial. Unless someone is stupid this is where it should end.

Unless Lara performed with Darren in a shoot other than TT it’s hard to see Lara suing another company at the same time. A judge isn’t likely to let her simultaneously sue many companies along with Evasive because the facts (and therefore defense) are too different for TT and the other defendants.

Lara may need to sue Darren along with TT even if Darren has no money. Lara’s side may well be worried if there’s evidence she was hooking bareback – that might put doubt in juror’s minds. Lara’s side might want to do a genetic fingerprint on both Darren and Lara to show they are related cases. CA law might not let them compel a witness to give blood unless the witness is a defendant. I have no idea.

The best way to guess at how this works is to look at previous cases. For example there have been “occupational” HIV infections via needle-stick by medical workers. Did any of these any of these cases result in a trial, and on what basis was the trial decided? There’s probably a lot of other relevant case law.

The AIM quarantine list shows this order of exposure from Darren: Jessica Dee on 3/23, Lara Rox on 3/24 and Meriesa Arroyo on 3/30. Unless TT can find contact between Lara and Darren earlier than Jessica it won’t work to try to suggest Lara might have been the source (unless TT gets “lucky” and can show via genetic fingerprints that Jessica is an unrelated case).
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#26078 - 05/13/04 09:46 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
jamesn Offline
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Registered: 04/17/04
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since it's hard to win and will end up burning through billable hours, she'd need a good lawyer and that lawyer wants to know he'll get paid. unless they are that interested in publicity, the only way she would be attractive to a lawyer, as already mentioned would be to pay a signifigant amount asap. if she had the cash,plenty of attorneys wouldn't touch a case with such an slim chance of a settlement unless she was in failing health and wouldn't make it to trial.

jrv, on the other forum i was the guy(minus the -boston here) talking about visas you replied to---for the hell of it i sent some hypotheticals back to the old gig. i didn't reply there since it's a no-win seeing they haven't done anything yet and i'd like to see the girl get her money. basically, if it's for over a year, they'd have trouble finding a reputable lawyer. if they could, they'd want 5-10k, refundable if applicable, just to open the file. the good firms make their money off large companies and their higher-paid workers. you know you're going to get paid back, barring freak bankruptcy filings, a porn studio doesn't have that kind of credit. and for a 1-case deal, the adult industry is something to avoid on your client list, since it's not viewed favorably by the rest of your bread and butter clients and they tend to bring attention/audits that you don't need.
obviously, i have no idea about the details of the contract, but if they can get a visa, it's not going be cheap,
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#26079 - 05/13/04 11:53 PM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
JRV Offline
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Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
Clearly Lara can't afford to pay for the case. I think estimates may be low on the amount of money the lawyers want on the table to start.

For contingency they'll look at who they might prevail against and estimate how much money might be there. I have no idea about TT and Evasive. As a wild guess I don't think they'd take it on a contingency basis unless the amount of money they might win, and recover, exceeds US$1M (assuming they get 33%). There are less risky and less difficult cases to pursue.

Most realistic is that she'll find a lawyer who will invest a few hours to write threatening letters and demand a settlement, without being willing or able to actually go to trial. TT should probably pay them off to put the risk of a real lawsuit behind him.

Don't overlook the other costs. I'm involved in a land condemnation right now where non-lawyer costs appear to be 20%-25% of the total I've spent.
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#26080 - 05/14/04 12:17 AM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
Ozzie Offline
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Registered: 12/29/03
Posts: 538
Loc: Australia
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Anyone who does anything dangerous or risky has to know the consequences involved.Its called "Assumption of Risks". When I get in the ring or mat, I know I could get seriously injured or killed. When I tore a hip muscle, I was out for 6 months; I didnt sue my opponent or promoter. I knew the risks and signed a waiver.Its part of the game.

Doing porn has certain risks like any other job.If you are not prepared for the consequences,then dont do it.




Hear hear. If you don't like the risk then don't play the game
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#26081 - 05/14/04 03:01 AM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
have2cit Offline
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Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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hold on there sport. ayrton senna(a race car driver that crashed and died) still has a case before the courts. and his estate will more then likely win. why? because even though his job was high risk , it was'nt supposed to be an automatic death sentence.

so , yes you can sue when workplace safety is not met or cared about. and seeing as the government would love nothing better then to try to "clean up" this industry she might havesome people "helping" her out with this lawsuit.

either way it should be interesting




Now you hold on there fucktard, anybody can sue anyone else for just about any reason. A woman sued McDonalds because her kids were fat. People like to place blame because they don’t want to take responsibility for their own actions or inactions eh .

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#26082 - 05/14/04 06:26 AM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
Sabre Offline
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Registered: 11/26/03
Posts: 44
Loc: Southern CA
Are there not waivers in the model releases?
My release with karanoxx.com had a waiver of liability (which turned out to be an interesting thing to think about when I turned up pregnant in January....until the dr got a better estimate at the date of conception...). I don't remember what anyone else's releases contained but I'd think it included something similar.
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#26083 - 05/14/04 06:41 AM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
zenman Offline

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Registered: 08/26/03
Posts: 8160
Loc: Roma, Repubblica Italiana
Are you keeping the baby?
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#26084 - 05/14/04 07:06 AM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
Kami Andrews Offline
Whoremaster

Registered: 01/25/04
Posts: 2742
damn jrv I have no idea what your saying all your posts have become term paper like!

I like the posts with pics of trailors or the monkey peeing, but for the love of mike can every one just smoke a dube and relax!

and lara sux

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#26085 - 05/14/04 07:24 AM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
JRV Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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damn jrv I have no idea what your saying all your posts have become term paper like!



OK, sorry. Sadly, that's what I sound like in real life. Too many clients like (and pay lots extra for) that kind of style.
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#26086 - 05/14/04 07:24 AM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
zenman Offline

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Registered: 08/26/03
Posts: 8160
Loc: Roma, Repubblica Italiana
Yes. I have attention deficit disorder and cannot read posts longer than 100 words. More than that makes me antsy.
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#26087 - 05/14/04 07:27 AM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
Kami Andrews Offline
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Registered: 01/25/04
Posts: 2742
hehe me to, i was hoping i wasn't the only one! i just scan down figuring some one will quote the intresting bits in a reply!

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#26088 - 05/14/04 07:58 AM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
Sergio T. Offline
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Registered: 07/20/03
Posts: 5256
Loc: CSW Wrestling - Gracie Academy
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Now you hold on there fucktard, anybody can sue anyone else for just about any reason. A woman sued McDonalds because her kids were fat. People like to place blame because they don’t want to take responsibility for their own actions or inactions eh



Remember that lady who sued McDonalds a few yrs. ago because her coffee lid slipped off and coffee landed on her? Well, she originally won 3 million in a lawsuit,but upon appeal; it was reduced to $100,000 dollars. Take away the lawyers fee and she really didnt get much. People sue for everything.If someone slips and falls,lawsuit.Whatever happened to just being clumsy? Car accident? They sue the car manufacture,even thou they were probably reckless drivers. Damn lawyers.
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#26089 - 05/14/04 08:46 AM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
Kami Andrews Offline
Whoremaster

Registered: 01/25/04
Posts: 2742
i love my lawyer

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#26090 - 05/14/04 09:25 AM Re: Lara Roxxx: Your Guide to Being Human Garbage
Lance Cumming Offline
Rob Black's Crack Pipe

Registered: 03/07/04
Posts: 111
Almost...

Senna's family was more than happy that they had "an explnantion" into the circumstances surrounding ayrton's death in 1994. it is THE ITALIAN GOVERNMENT that has reopened the inquiry into his death. THE SENNA ESTATE WANTS NOTHING because they knew the risk of auto racing that senna incurred every time he climbed into his car. Laura took the same risk every time she has sex on camera. Those of us in the biz know it. I KNOW IT. I accept that I do all I can to protect myself and those around me while still producing a product that people will want to see (can you say, 'no condoms?'). senna did as well. and lara should be more liable to assume the blame than to pass it on to others.
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