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#205449 - 12/06/06 05:51 PM how many girls in porn have any business sense?
Eddie Normous Offline
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rather an inane idea for a thread, but the sasha grey is stupid thread got me thinking.

anyway- for many 18-21 year old girls entering porn with perhaps no education or career prospects, porn certainly offers them the ability to make more money in a shorter period than they otherwise could. by treating themselves as a business and making smart decisions they could expand this potential even more. simple things like basic marketing (pr, differentiation, branding), maximising revenue and managing cashflow, and investing.

but not many do this, and i know someone will point out that if they possessed such skills they would perhaps not be in porn, so maybe this is all irrelevant, but i'd like to see it.

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#205450 - 12/06/06 06:41 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense?
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I recall that Gia was a homeowner BEFORE she got into porn, so I'll assume she has some degree of sense in terms of how to spend her money. She can't be the only one who knows how to handle money amongst starlets.

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#205451 - 12/06/06 07:26 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
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Belladonna - Jewel D'Nyle
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#205452 - 12/06/06 07:43 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
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I recall that Gia was a homeowner BEFORE she got into porn, so I'll assume she has some degree of sense in terms of how to spend her money. She can't be the only one who knows how to handle money amongst starlets.




gia started porn a lot after 18 though and had a head start on most girls. i'm not just talking about being smart with money, but an overall business sense.

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Belladonna - Jewel D'Nyle




agree with belladonna, involved in her own productions and good use of a website.

i know nothing about jewel except what appears in the debella threads in the cage.

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#205453 - 12/06/06 08:05 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
sexycity Offline
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Jewel started Platinum X with some partners and owns 75 movies (she is currently trying to sell them). She also smartly trademarked her name, hence the threats to people not to involve her name when promoting her mom, De'Bella.

Stormy Daniels also seems to have some business accumen.
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#205454 - 12/06/06 08:37 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense?
gia jordan Offline
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I recall that Gia was a homeowner BEFORE she got into porn, so I'll assume she has some degree of sense in terms of how to spend her money. She can't be the only one who knows how to handle money amongst starlets.




True, but if I was really smart I would have bought two. houses instead of one.
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#205455 - 12/06/06 09:00 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense?
pornlaw Offline
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Actually quite a few have some great business skills. Many of my female clients run their own careers, websites and companies. I have incorporated dozens of female performers for just the tax advantages they receive. They also have accountants looking after their bank accounts and many are on their own payroll so all the necessary taxes are being paid. And I am talking about women as young as 18 doing this.

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#205456 - 12/06/06 09:44 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense?
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I recall that Gia was a homeowner BEFORE she got into porn, so I'll assume she has some degree of sense in terms of how to spend her money. She can't be the only one who knows how to handle money amongst starlets.




True, but if I was really smart I would have bought two. houses instead of one.




Shouldn't you be working a photography gig tonight and then having dinner with your friends? It'd break my heart to know you really didn't want to hang with the Phlog-meister.

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#205457 - 12/06/06 09:46 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense?
gia jordan Offline
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Heading out on a gig right now.
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#205458 - 12/06/06 09:50 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense?
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Heading out on a gig right now.




My fragile ego survives another day!

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#205459 - 12/07/06 09:06 AM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
Jeff Steward Offline
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Jewel started Platinum X with some partners




And you believe these because Jewel said it.
Keep in mind that whores lie.
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#205460 - 12/07/06 02:58 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
lee_11 Offline
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Registered: 05/18/06
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Keep in mind that whores lie.




I forget Jeff, what rule # was that again?

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#205461 - 12/07/06 03:55 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
Eddie Normous Offline
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Actually quite a few have some great business skills. Many of my female clients run their own careers, websites and companies. I have incorporated dozens of female performers for just the tax advantages they receive. They also have accountants looking after their bank accounts and many are on their own payroll so all the necessary taxes are being paid. And I am talking about women as young as 18 doing this.




that's good to hear.

i'm more interested in the marketing aspect- getting their name out there, getting noticed, getting work.

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#205462 - 12/07/06 04:06 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
zenman Offline

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Jewel started Platinum X with some partners




And you believe these because Jewel said it.
Keep in mind that whores lie.




You need to trademark this, Jeff:
Whores Lieâ„¢

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#205463 - 12/08/06 12:04 AM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense?
Tiny Creep Yoootube Offline
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Registered: 12/05/06
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rather an inane idea for a thread, but the sasha grey is stupid thread got me thinking.

anyway- for many 18-21 year old girls entering porn with perhaps no education or career prospects, porn certainly offers them the ability to make more money in a shorter period than they otherwise could. by treating themselves as a business and making smart decisions they could expand this potential even more. simple things like basic marketing (pr, differentiation, branding), maximising revenue and managing cashflow, and investing.

but not many do this, and i know someone will point out that if they possessed such skills they would perhaps not be in porn, so maybe this is all irrelevant, but i'd like to see it.




why ask me dude, I don't know.
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#205464 - 12/08/06 09:10 AM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
Conky Offline
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The most successful girls are the ones who make it past five years in the biz. If a girl can keep working and earn enough to pay the bills for that duration without being 'shot out', she's got smarts.

You can do a quick check at the AEE to find the smart, business girls: just ask them if they have a septum. If snot is pouring out their nose like Niagra, you have your answer.
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#205465 - 12/08/06 01:03 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
Holly Randall Offline
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Aria Giovanni has incredible business sense. She's the hardest working girl I know, and she's sustaining herself incredibly well.
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#205466 - 12/08/06 01:05 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
Mr Woland Offline
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Heading out on a gig right now.




You're my hero Gia

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#205467 - 12/09/06 04:55 AM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
christianxxx Offline
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Registered: 07/05/05
Posts: 2134
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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Aria Giovanni has incredible business sense. She's the hardest working girl I know, and she's sustaining herself incredibly well.




thats great holly, except she isnt a porn girl now is she?
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#205468 - 12/09/06 10:26 AM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
steveb Offline
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Aria Giovanni has incredible business sense. She's the hardest working girl I know, and she's sustaining herself incredibly well.




thats great holly, except she isnt a porn girl now is she?



No...

BUT she should be.
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#205469 - 12/09/06 01:04 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
Dick Dastardly Offline
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Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 4470
Rules #10, 41, and 156 (for those who forgot the early rules). Rule #172, Subpart C was an amendment to #156 after the AC Cream debaticle.

Please don't allow your clouded judgement as a fanboy allow you to think otherwise. Whores do indeed lie. You seem to fall amongst the ranks of those who think that when a chick carasses your face with her lotioned-up hands, she's going to suck your dick.

Porn whores know how to play the game. In other words, you're the game, and you just got played.

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Keep in mind that whores lie.




I forget Jeff, what rule # was that again?


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#205470 - 12/10/06 03:39 AM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
The Ghost Is Toast Offline
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Aria Giovanni has incredible business sense. She's the hardest working girl I know, and she's sustaining herself incredibly well.




thats great holly, except she isnt a porn girl now is she?



No...

BUT she should be.




Damn straight...Aria Giovanni doing b/g would outsell any movie with CGI skeletons and pirate ships. Ditto Sunny Leone, Kyla Cole, Kelle Marie etc.

Certain producers should be made aware of this...

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#205471 - 12/10/06 08:54 AM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
steveb Offline
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Aria Giovanni has incredible business sense. She's the hardest working girl I know, and she's sustaining herself incredibly well.




thats great holly, except she isnt a porn girl now is she?



No...

BUT she should be.




Damn straight...Aria Giovanni doing b/g would outsell any movie with CGI skeletons and pirate ships. Ditto Sunny Leone, Kyla Cole, Kelle Marie etc.

Certain producers should be made aware of this...



Holly! Please talk some SENSE into your friend!!!!
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#205472 - 12/11/06 06:12 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
Holly Randall Offline
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Aria Giovanni has incredible business sense. She's the hardest working girl I know, and she's sustaining herself incredibly well.




thats great holly, except she isnt a porn girl now is she?



No...

BUT she should be.




Damn straight...Aria Giovanni doing b/g would outsell any movie with CGI skeletons and pirate ships. Ditto Sunny Leone, Kyla Cole, Kelle Marie etc.

Certain producers should be made aware of this...



Holly! Please talk some SENSE into your friend!!!!




Hahaha no way would she do it... she's doing fine just doing softcore girl/girl and single girl. Why would she change now? She doesn't need to.
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#205473 - 12/11/06 07:08 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
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Aria Giovanni has incredible business sense. She's the hardest working girl I know, and she's sustaining herself incredibly well.




thats great holly, except she isnt a porn girl now is she?



No...

BUT she should be.




Damn straight...Aria Giovanni doing b/g would outsell any movie with CGI skeletons and pirate ships. Ditto Sunny Leone, Kyla Cole, Kelle Marie etc.

Certain producers should be made aware of this...



Holly! Please talk some SENSE into your friend!!!!




Hahaha no way would she do it... she's doing fine just doing softcore girl/girl and single girl. Why would she change now? She doesn't need to.




Ahemm..Birthday party pics??? Holly??
Its been like a month doll..How bout em?
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#205474 - 12/11/06 07:30 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
Phlogiston Offline
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Posts: 1594
Loc: The "Phlogbox", apparently.
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Hahaha no way would she do it... she's doing fine just doing softcore girl/girl and single girl. Why would she change now? She doesn't need to.





Because if her asshole goes unpenetrated and remains too tight, she runs the risk of hemmorhoids and colon cancer down the road*. It is best she get that thing reamed out before it is too late. Plus it would pay well. Health and money...win-win.


*Only applies ot the female anus.

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#205475 - 12/11/06 08:14 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
Sergio T. Offline
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Aria Giovanni has incredible business sense. She's the hardest working girl I know, and she's sustaining herself incredibly well.




thats great holly, except she isnt a porn girl now is she?



No...

BUT she should be.




Damn straight...Aria Giovanni doing b/g would outsell any movie with CGI skeletons and pirate ships. Ditto Sunny Leone, Kyla Cole, Kelle Marie etc.

Certain producers should be made aware of this...



Holly! Please talk some SENSE into your friend!!!!




Hahaha no way would she do it... she's doing fine just doing softcore girl/girl and single girl. Why would she change now? She doesn't need to.



Because the fans demand it. Does she want to make her fanbase happy?
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#205476 - 12/11/06 11:23 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
Holly Randall Offline
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Registered: 05/06/05
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Aria Giovanni has incredible business sense. She's the hardest working girl I know, and she's sustaining herself incredibly well.




thats great holly, except she isnt a porn girl now is she?



No...

BUT she should be.




Damn straight...Aria Giovanni doing b/g would outsell any movie with CGI skeletons and pirate ships. Ditto Sunny Leone, Kyla Cole, Kelle Marie etc.

Certain producers should be made aware of this...



Holly! Please talk some SENSE into your friend!!!!




Hahaha no way would she do it... she's doing fine just doing softcore girl/girl and single girl. Why would she change now? She doesn't need to.




Ahemm..Birthday party pics??? Holly??
Its been like a month doll..How bout em?




Yeah sorry they're sitting in my computer right now. I'll try to get around to posting them before I go to visit her in New York this Thursday. I'll have plenty of pics from my trip this weekend, though!
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#205477 - 12/12/06 12:19 AM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
steveb Offline
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Registered: 12/28/05
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Aria Giovanni has incredible business sense. She's the hardest working girl I know, and she's sustaining herself incredibly well.




thats great holly, except she isnt a porn girl now is she?



No...

BUT she should be.




Damn straight...Aria Giovanni doing b/g would outsell any movie with CGI skeletons and pirate ships. Ditto Sunny Leone, Kyla Cole, Kelle Marie etc.

Certain producers should be made aware of this...



Holly! Please talk some SENSE into your friend!!!!




Hahaha no way would she do it... she's doing fine just doing softcore girl/girl and single girl. Why would she change now? She doesn't need to.




We NEED her too!!!!

Tell her to have pity on us poor wretches!!!
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#205478 - 12/12/06 02:09 AM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
The Ghost Is Toast Offline
Whoremaster

Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 2710
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Hahaha no way would she do it... she's doing fine just doing softcore girl/girl and single girl. Why would she change now? She doesn't need to.




This is exactly the point I was trying to make to you in the Sasha Grey thread, Holly...if circumstances were to ever change and Aria found herself in a position where she did need to do a little more and up her levels, then she has left herself a whole lot of 'unexplored country' which she can explore and exploit...Sasha Grey doesn't have that sort of luxury because she's pretty much done it all already.


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#205479 - 12/12/06 01:01 PM Re: how many girls in porn have any business sense
Holly Randall Offline
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Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 1946
Loc: Outer Space
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Hahaha no way would she do it... she's doing fine just doing softcore girl/girl and single girl. Why would she change now? She doesn't need to.




This is exactly the point I was trying to make to you in the Sasha Grey thread, Holly...if circumstances were to ever change and Aria found herself in a position where she did need to do a little more and up her levels, then she has left herself a whole lot of 'unexplored country' which she can explore and exploit...Sasha Grey doesn't have that sort of luxury because she's pretty much done it all already.






I think we both have valid points.
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