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#181155 - 07/29/06 10:14 AM Porn Norm: Manager/Husband
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I saw this portion of a post in Google groups. I know part of it is true. But as for the rest is it all true???

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> For some strange reason in this business, It's been a long time trend for an actress to have a husband or boyfreind who manages her career, this is a norm in the business, some people in the biz call them "porn pimps". So why is this so prevalent in porn? Or is this common in all types of entertainment?


The reason is simple .. The so-called management companies & agents in this industry are simply out for $$$, where a girl's husband or boyfriend simpy looks-out more for the welfare of his mate.

World Modeling Agency, the self proclaimed "central casting agency" for porn, is nothing more than a place to leave a Polaroid in the hopes that a producer will select you [the girl in question] and then World Modeling comes chasing after you for their agent fee!


Agents or agencies like Roy Garcia or Regan Senter promote only the girls who will have sex with them first and then take 20% from the girls who get work and then hit-up the producers for another 20%!


In having a boyfriend or husband as a manager or agent, there is no need for the girl to worry about paying-out FEES or having to "sleep" with someone off camera simply to get a job.


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#181156 - 07/29/06 10:50 AM Re: Porn Norm: Manager/Husband
Shawn Reynolds Offline
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Registered: 04/22/04
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There are probably some girls who could have had very successful careers in the industry if they had received REAL management instead of falling into the hands of predators. I don't think it would be unreasonable for the industry to adopt licensing guidelines for those who call themselves agents, so that there is some kind of accountability. With the state of things as they are now, a serial rapist with enough money can be an 'agent' and no one would no any better.

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#181157 - 07/29/06 11:19 AM Re: Porn Norm: Manager/Husband
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Quote:

There are probably some girls who could have had very successful careers in the industry if they had received REAL management instead of falling into the hands of predators. I don't think it would be unreasonable for the industry to adopt licensing guidelines for those who call themselves agents, so that there is some kind of accountability. With the state of things as they are now, a serial rapist with enough money can be an 'agent' and no one would no any better.




This is true Shawn....but I now see their point when they start using analogies....case in point...

If you were an illicit pharmaceuticals dealer and someone unknown to you brought you 10 kilos of "grade a shit" would you buy it without testing the product first.......or you take there word for it and unknowingly put junky blow on the streets? I see that if that were the case it might damage a dealer’s reputation……

Besides getting their rocks off the only other valid reason or excuse would be to determine whether or not the talent actually sucks (in all forms of the word) in front of the camera. There is way too much cash floating around the adult industry to sacrifice your reputation just to get a piece of ass. Hell wouldn’t it be cheaper in the long run to actually find bona fide hookers and pay them for services rendered then have to do such a long prolonged song and dance to get laid? There has to be more to this story then what is being admitted to or exposed.

http://www.xxxporntalk.com//ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=dvdtalk&Number=146166&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

Another case in point…Awhile back I posted that I would drink Brooke's bathwater…however a report from male talent that worked with her (christianxxx) on a set not on the scene but on the set and said that she had a terrible attitude and other people commented that her scenes suck…..this would not have had to happen if they would be treated as female gang members are and she got “fucked in” to the business. I guess then the need for websites like pornstarperformance would be null as well since all of the talent would have to perform to simple standards…..like the US governments labeling on meat products us grade a beef……etc.

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#181158 - 07/30/06 09:30 AM Re: Porn Norm: Manager/Husband
pornlaw Offline
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Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 459
Loc: California
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I don't think it would be unreasonable for the industry to adopt licensing guidelines for those who call themselves agents, so that there is some kind of accountability. With the state of things as they are now, a serial rapist with enough money can be an 'agent' and no one would no any better.





In California, every agent, is required to be licensed and bonded by the state. Failure to do so once resulted in being thrown in jail. Now its more of a situation where the agent can be fined but mostly, if an agent is not licensed or bonded -- talent can ask the Labor Board to force the agent to pay her/him back for all the fees he/she has collected during the representation. And they usually win those complaints.

Michael
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#181159 - 07/30/06 12:36 PM Re: Porn Norm: Manager/Husband
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Quote:

Quote:

I don't think it would be unreasonable for the industry to adopt licensing guidelines for those who call themselves agents, so that there is some kind of accountability. With the state of things as they are now, a serial rapist with enough money can be an 'agent' and no one would no any better.





In California, every agent, is required to be licensed and bonded by the state. Failure to do so once resulted in being thrown in jail. Now its more of a situation where the agent can be fined but mostly, if an agent is not licensed or bonded -- talent can ask the Labor Board to force the agent to pay her/him back for all the fees he/she has collected during the representation. And they usually win those complaints.

Michael




Michael,

My guess is not too many of them are really actually licensed. Wonder with all the fact checking, raids, trials when just when will the hammer fall on these guys?


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#181160 - 07/31/06 01:46 AM Re: Porn Norm: Manager/Husband
pornlaw Offline
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Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 459
Loc: California
I already talked to the licensing board and I doubt if they will be coming after the agents. There isnt a criminal investigation division anymore due to budget cut backs and they dont have the resources to go after all the unlicensed and illegal agents.

Though the one area agents do have to worry about is carrying work comp insurance for their employees. The Department of Industrial Relations will fine any employer in the state that doesnt carry the proper insurance.

The biggest liability an agent has is if there is a disgruntled performer who wants all of her money back.

Michael
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#181161 - 08/31/06 11:43 AM Re: Porn Norm: Manager/Husband
CFOK Offline
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Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 2
Loc: Fresno, CA
I was wondering if anyone could give me some references to the california laws governing agents and the business in general. I've just started looking into getting into the business by making/producing films and anything else that seems to work for me. Any info on where to research would be appreciated.

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#181162 - 08/31/06 02:10 PM Re: Porn Norm: Manager/Husband
Azaël Offline
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Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 28
Loc: here... there
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With the state of things as they are now, a serial rapist with enough money can be an 'agent' and no one would no any better.




Are there any agents who aren't serial rapists?
Not that would mind, I'm just curious...
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#181163 - 08/31/06 05:18 PM Re: Porn Norm: Manager/Husband
Shawn Reynolds Offline
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Registered: 04/22/04
Posts: 128
Budget cutbacks or re-directed law enforcement makes a difference. In northeastern Connecticut, for example, banks are being robbed left and right by people with no weapons because no one is really doing much about it. They walk in, say they have a gun, and they are given money. They walk out, sneak home, and the cops file a report. The FBI is busy with terrorism and bank robberies are not exactly a priority for them.

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#181164 - 09/01/06 02:23 AM Re: Porn Norm: Manager/Husband
pornlaw Offline
AC Cream Wannabe

Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 459
Loc: California
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I was wondering if anyone could give me some references to the California laws governing agents and the business in general. I've just started looking into getting into the business by making/producing films and anything else that seems to work for me. Any info on where to research would be appreciated.






Im in the process of writing a legal research primer article for Adult Store Buyer Magazine which could help answer your question. But the real answer is get a lawyer in the industry and have him guide you through the mind-field of laws. Its really too difficult to do on your own.

Michael
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#181165 - 09/01/06 10:07 AM Re: Porn Norm: Manager/Husband
CFOK Offline
ADT regular

Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 2
Loc: Fresno, CA
Thank you for the advice Michael. I intend to seek competent representation but my experience has been that to determine if they are competent or not you have to know a little about the subject, hence my question. When you are finished with your primer, I'd be interested in getting a copy.

Thanks!

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#181166 - 09/04/06 02:21 AM Re: Porn Norm: Manager/Husband
pornlaw Offline
AC Cream Wannabe

Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 459
Loc: California
CFOK -- I'm in the midst of writing it now and it should be in the next issue of ASB. Once its published I will forward you a copy if you email me your addy.

BTW -- thats a good approach. An educated client that has at least some idea of the law is always a better client.

Michael
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