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#170104 - 07/08/06 10:09 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 09/13/05
Posts: 1594
Loc: The "Phlogbox", apparently.
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That was the best part of being in the Navy. Firehoses were great for eco-terrorists. Fucking greenpeace..
It's a shame that the navy mothballed all the battleships. It would've been fun to give the eco-terrorist bongo-slapping hippies a full broadside, wouldn't it?
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#170105 - 07/08/06 10:11 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 09/13/05
Posts: 1594
Loc: The "Phlogbox", apparently.
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No-one cares about your insecurities and hang-ups. You're a selectively homophobic creep with an ugly face. Even diarrhea looks better than you.
That ugly face in my avatar belongs to someone named Steph. She probably agrees with all of your opinions. And, yes, diarrhea looks better than her. The fact we agree on something makes me feel unclean.
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#170107 - 07/09/06 12:11 AM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 02/18/05
Posts: 1138
Loc: British Colombia
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It's a shame that the navy mothballed all the battleships. It would've been fun to give the eco-terrorist bongo-slapping hippies a full broadside, wouldn't it?
Absolutely, that's the one thing I can say good about the french. They had a greenpeace ship following them around harrassing them, so they promptly sent divers over in port and sunk the fuckers in Port. 
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#170108 - 07/09/06 01:20 AM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Human Garbage
Registered: 09/13/05
Posts: 1594
Loc: The "Phlogbox", apparently.
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Absolutely, that's the one thing I can say good about the french. They had a greenpeace ship following them around harrassing them, so they promptly sent divers over in port and sunk the fuckers in Port.
Indeed, even the French are pretty good when fighting a bunch of drug-addled, tie-dyed, Grateful Dead listeners. They should have sunk the Rainbow Warrior in shark-infested waters, poured some chum onto the survivors, and full steamed it outta there. God I hate hippies!
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#170109 - 07/09/06 01:35 AM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 12/09/05
Posts: 1291
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God I hate hippies!
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#170111 - 07/09/06 11:10 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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Daniels,
Why don't you go and administer a blowjob to the log you lay next time you go to the toilet?
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#170112 - 07/14/06 07:00 PM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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I hope that the government cracks down on you simply on the basis of your selective homophobia. You shouldn't be allowed to get away with it, basically. You all pretend to be open-minded and about freedom but what you're really on about is the sleazy straight guy fantasy. You're loathsome liars and deceivers.
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#170114 - 07/17/06 05:25 PM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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daniels,
Oh, really? You mean like how the straight porn industry totally bans the male-male interaction but allows all other interactions? That's totalitarianism for you, pal.
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#170115 - 07/17/06 05:35 PM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 1946
Loc: Outer Space
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I'm a little unclear as to the argument here. Is Kate upset because there aren't boy/boy scenes, in say, a Vivid movie, but there are girl/girl scenes?
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#170116 - 07/17/06 05:59 PM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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Holly,
I'm upset that there exists a total ban on the male-male interaction in straight porn movies. When I say "male-male interaction", I mean anything from simple touching to licking to sex. This ban is enforced at all levels of the straight porn industry, from directors all the way down to editors.
It sends out a very bad message that only female homosexuality can co-exist with heterosexuality in the mainstream. This is a very, very bad message. And, yes, Vivid is just as guilty as all the other companies.
Maybe you could break the taboo in your next movie, Holly.
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#170117 - 07/17/06 06:52 PM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 1946
Loc: Outer Space
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Holly,
I'm upset that there exists a total ban on the male-male interaction in straight porn movies. When I say "male-male interaction", I mean anything from simple touching to licking to sex. This ban is enforced at all levels of the straight porn industry, from directors all the way down to editors.
It sends out a very bad message that only female homosexuality can co-exist with heterosexuality in the mainstream. This is a very, very bad message. And, yes, Vivid is just as guilty as all the other companies.
Maybe you could break the taboo in your next movie, Holly.
Well I'm thinking in terms of supply and demand-- most guys who watch straight porn are straight, right? So why would they want to see guy on guy action? I'm not judging here, I have no issues with gay sex at all, but I'm just thinking of straight porn's target audience. Yes, girl on girl action is technically gay I suppose, but it's that double standard where girls having sex is hot... Does it suck? Yeah. But that's just society's general view. Does it suck that a guy can fuck tons of chicks and he's a stud, whereas a girl can do the same and she's a slut? Yeah. But again, that's society's general view. I for one, couldn't shoot gay porn because I have no demand for it from any of my clients or site members. And I would think it goes the same for everyone else in the straight porn industry. And porn isn't exactly the platform to change society's views on gays, I wouldn't think. Pornographers, in general, aren't here to change the world for the better.
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#170118 - 07/17/06 07:26 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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Holly,
Firstly, I don't think the porn-buying public reflects society at large. Most adult movies are lucky to sell 5 - 10 thousand copies, a very small number in a country with nearly 300,000,000 people.
Secondly, where is this great customer clamor to keep male-male contact out of straight porn movies? Fact is, there is none. There may be a few people wanting to keep it out, but since when did this justify a total ban? Even if it was found by a survey that 80% opposed it, how does this justify a 100% ban?
As for double standards, I'm not the type to take them lying down.
Regards,
Kate
P.S. You talk about "society's general view". What needs to be remembered is that the straight porn industry is encouraging this view. The straight porn industry is a pro-active party in the promotion of selective homophobia and segregation in relation to gay/bisexual men.
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#170122 - 07/17/06 11:33 PM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 1946
Loc: Outer Space
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Secondly, where is this great customer clamor to keep male-male contact out of straight porn movies? Fact is, there is none. There may be a few people wanting to keep it out, but since when did this justify a total ban? Even if it was found by a survey that 80% opposed it, how does this justify a 100% ban?
I never said there was a big to-do about people trying to keep gay porn out of "straight" movies. I'm speaking soley from a business standpoint-- why produce something that you don't have the market for? There is no "ban"-- there just isn't a demand strong enough to call for gay scenes in straight movies. Here is an example of your faulty business sense (and I'm not trying to be offensive): "Even if it was found by a survey that 80% opposed it, how does this justify a 100% ban?" Now what business would produce a product that only 20% of their audience MIGHT enjoy, when they could produce a product that they are fairly sure will garner a much larger percentage, such as 100%? As a businessman(woman) you cater to your audience-- the people that are paying you. When my members post suggestions on my chatboard, it's never for gay porn. It's for blondes/bit tits/natural tits/milfs/young girls... whatever. It's never about the guys. Though I understand your point and your cause is noble, it is what it is and we just go with the flow. There isn't really anyone to blame here.
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#170124 - 07/18/06 01:33 AM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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ADT regular
Registered: 07/12/06
Posts: 9
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Your beating your head against a brick wall Holly. Logic doesn't work on this troll. I believe only a sledge hammer will work... 
I have to agree, and I've only read this page of responses. And I'm sure it has been mentioned, but what about all the cocks touching other cocks in double anals, vaginals and oral attempts at taking two in one mouth? It may not be gay porn, but it shows that these people aren't all that uptite, at least in my opinion lol.
Fuck em it they can't take a joke.
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#170125 - 07/18/06 09:41 AM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 02/18/05
Posts: 1138
Loc: British Colombia
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Fuck em it they can't take a joke.
That was my motto in the 90s! Would work great in a sig!
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#170126 - 07/18/06 05:04 PM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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Face it - I have dissected the straight porn industry and made a convincing case to demonstrate that it's selectively homophobic. It's an industry that tailors its product specifically to the perception that male-male can't co-exist with heterosexuality, even in small amounts. This perception doesn't match the reality.
Moreover, let me inform you that I am planning to go on Oprah Winfrey's website with my case in an appropriate and relevant way. When I go on Oprah, your reputation will be in tatters.
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#170128 - 07/18/06 05:46 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 07/05/04
Posts: 1545
Loc: In the tree outside Gia Jordan...
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Right now Smelly Monkey is laughing at each and every one of us.
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#170130 - 07/19/06 05:06 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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I don't know who the hell Monkey is.
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#170131 - 07/19/06 05:52 PM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Stormy's Lawyer
Registered: 07/19/06
Posts: 27
Loc: some damn shadow
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Face it - I have dissected the straight porn industry and made a convincing case to demonstrate that it's selectively homophobic. It's an industry that tailors its product specifically to the perception that male-male can't co-exist with heterosexuality, even in small amounts. This perception doesn't match the reality.
Moreover, let me inform you that I am planning to go on Oprah Winfrey's website with my case in an appropriate and relevant way. When I go on Oprah, your reputation will be in tatters.
The fact that you believe Oprah Winfrey -and especially Oprah Winfrey's website- has that much real power is interesting. Bizarrely and deeply ignorant, but interesting.
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#170134 - 07/19/06 10:07 PM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 07/07/04
Posts: 3178
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Well I remember an old girlfriend who watched male gay porn because I watched straight porn. And even during sex she watched it because it helped orgasms. We are not together anymore but because she left them at my place I will sometimes wach. Don't misunderstand me I wanted to share that with you.
Wow, your one fucked up fagget.
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#170135 - 07/20/06 09:22 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 06/27/06
Posts: 167
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Well I remember an old girlfriend who watched male gay porn because I watched straight porn. And even during sex she watched it because it helped orgasms. We are not together anymore but because she left them at my place I will sometimes wach. Don't misunderstand me I wanted to share that with you.
Wow, your one fucked up fagget.
Well that is a rude remark. I apologize for being in a drunk state last night but the reason that I shared what I said was only to make a point. I mean I would not make a transaction to obtain gay material myself however because it is in my place of residence I don't have an issue with viewing it sometimes. Honestly I do not.
Well I would like to say that maybe you are slightly homophobic if you can not agree with me. I am not gay but I am not homophobic either. If I had said what I said using my adt name thankfully I did not I could not imagine how out of context others might take this.
But do you agree or disagree concerning my point? I would ask you to consider my point and not dismiss it. I mean there are others on this board who I am sure are closet gays so you would not be alone.
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#170136 - 07/21/06 12:43 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 6557
Loc: 2004 - the glory days
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#170137 - 07/21/06 04:13 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 05/05/04
Posts: 446
Loc: Los Angeles
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OK I read the first two pages of this and then could not take the banality of it and just had to comment to kate. First off Kate, you are a retarded fag hag. Put a warning on the box? They do. It either has BI in the title or has two dudes hugging each other while they hug a girl. To put a warning on the box will have that box put into the BI section of the video store. There are sections in the video store because that is going by the buyers (bottom) personal choice on what to watch. Do not sit there while you knit your best friend a pair of booty shorts, and tell us that the reason that there are no bi scenes in straight movies is because its the directors (top) choice. If the consumer (bottom) wanted to see more bi scenes then the sale of bi scenes would be higher and more bi scenes would be shot to meet the demand. If you are going to say that they are done wrong or anything along that line then go fucking shoot it and shut the fuck up. Do not sit there and scream its all a conspiracy against the gay man. It goes by what sells. I know that you are here just to stir the shit because your argument just goes in every direction and you argue anything you can to switch the topic when you are in a corner.
I am sure this was all covered in the 8 pages i did not read. So i was late. So what.
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#170138 - 07/21/06 05:00 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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Pariah,
Face it - the points that I have made regarding the straight porn industry are now getting a lot of publicity. Even Village Voice, a popular New York alternative publication, is covering it, courtesy of Tristan Taormino. I just read an article where she talks about the bisexual double standard in straight porn, among other issues. It's a good article simply because it broaches a topic that the straight porn crowd has preferred to sweep under the carpet for so long.
Edited by kate (07/21/06 05:02 PM)
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#170139 - 07/21/06 05:30 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 6005
Loc: travieso capital management an...
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the village voice is for postmodern-sleaze. it's audience is a bunch of single 33-year olds with more pretensions than income , education or intelligence. it's full of "causes" that people who aren't that smart and don't matter that much can understand, feel good about reading and debating with their loser friends.
tristan's made a career out of being a loudmouthed, self-promoting leader of the socially-liberal but fundamentally unimpressive.
say you're a dumb bitch who's got nothing going for her but being at least average looking(a few years ago, she's a sow with crazyface now) and you've got a degree from an expensive little CT college that's not disgraceful. what do you do if you want people to PAY ATTENTION TO YOU?
easy-you've got a window where you can use your age and the fact you went to college for AS MUCH SHOCK VALUE AS POSSIBLE BY REPEATEDLY ANNOUNCING TO THE WORLD YOU GET FUCKED UP THE ASS AND DO SLUTTY THINGS.
people paid attention to her only because she was a girl that should have been heading to some white-collar job in her 20's and she ended up being a totally-shameless whore.
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#170140 - 07/21/06 05:35 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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At least the issue is being talked about.
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#170142 - 07/21/06 05:52 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 6005
Loc: travieso capital management an...
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kate--you'll never live to see your utopia realized.
because instead of addressing the childhood-trauma you experienced and repressed you're on a mission to pretend your mother used to fall asleep in your bed naked and intoxicated never happened and that it's "GGGREEAT!" to be the way you are.
as a bisexual man, i'd work on coming to grips with the physical/sexual/emotional abuse you suffered at some age instead of trying to make the world bisexual. there's an elevated chance you're suffering from some degree of mood or affective disorder than those who don't switch-hit. spend your porn budget on some therapty and medication and i bet your life will improve.
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Martin Amis "honoring" katie price with a character bearing some of her traits
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#170143 - 07/21/06 05:56 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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Chairman,
Straight porn is already bi - female bi only. As for what people buy, I wouldn't exactly be trumpeting the current sales figures for straight porn movies in America. An average straight porn title in America sells a very small number of copies. I suspect it's because people know it's going to be a poor production in addition to being selectively homophobic.
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#170144 - 07/21/06 06:17 PM
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Stormy's Lawyer
Registered: 07/19/06
Posts: 27
Loc: some damn shadow
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Chairman,
An average straight porn title in America sells a very small number of copies. I suspect it's because people know it's going to be a poor production in addition to being selectively homophobic.
Yeah, that's why my grandparents don't buy porn. Or my brother, happily married to a hot woman. Or the Jehovah's Witnesses who live next door...
It's hilarious that you think the bulk of America is avoiding porn because they suspect the lighting is bad and they won't get to see guys fucking each other.
This is why I love internet message boards. Where else could a person as completely delusional as yourself ever get a proper hearing?
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#170145 - 07/21/06 06:18 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 03/09/06
Posts: 70
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Kate,
The reason that porn movies sell so few copies is because porn is a niche product. There are thousands of different niches like bj, foot fetish, straight sex, anal etc including bi m/m, each catering to their small market.
The marketing/distribution budgets of porn studios are also tiny, even the biggest player in porn is a minnow compared to the likes of universal / disney / news corp. The other reason that the sales per title are low though is competition from the 'net. It's a medium which is more suited to delivery of adult content than dvd/vid, due to discretion, breadth of available titles and price (often free).
None of these have anything to do with your claim.
Most people buy porn for a very simple reason - to watch it and get off. They probably aren't that bothered about production values, and certainly not about homophobia. If you put something that turns them off in it, they wont buy it. So nobody with any commercial sense is going to do as you suggest. If you were correct, surely existing bi titles would be more popular than they already are?
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#170146 - 07/21/06 06:35 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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Chairman,
I suspect the reason I stated above is a very important factor as to why most straight porn titles sell very poorly. As for the rest of your post, it's a mass of generalizations and assertions. Stop trying to justify the exclusion of male-male interactions from straight porn movies. It's not flying here.
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#170148 - 07/21/06 06:51 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 6005
Loc: travieso capital management an...
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belated congrats man.
i'm wondering who molested kate-my money's on uncle skeeter because of the porn connection.
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Martin Amis "honoring" katie price with a character bearing some of her traits
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#170149 - 07/21/06 07:11 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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jamesn,
Maybe you got knocked up by Ted Bundy.
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#170150 - 07/21/06 07:15 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 6005
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generally, when you're making a joke it helps to be funny. just some advice your dad forgot to give you while he was busy giving you ritualized enemas and making you the confused person you are today.
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#170151 - 07/21/06 07:25 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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jamesn,
You are more than welcome to consume the contents of the enema bag.
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#170153 - 07/21/06 09:42 PM
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