Rick Santorum is an interesting fellow. He's pretty firmly established himself as a bluenose Christian conservative, but he's also a Constitutionalist. And pretty willing to engage in discussions with hostile audiences (which, for Santorum, tends to be nearly everybody, thanks to Dan Savage) about his principles. Rick Santorum is way more conservative than I am, but note that Rick Santorum is already on record that the President's personal preferences are not law. Laws are made by Congress. He would try to persuade them, as he has tried to persuade the electorate, but Santorum wouldn't rule by decree like Emperor Barry I.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 05/07/1508:24 PM
Originally Posted By: HillbillyHarry
Bernie Sanders - The Rick Santorum of the left
Originally Posted By: Rear Admiral
Rick Santorum is an interesting fellow.
Dear god you're the Brandon of fscking Republicans.
We really should keep it to the wonder that is Bernie Sanders. I'm seeing a groundswell starting right here and expanding out the rest of the nation. And North Dakota.
He's calm and sincere. His opponent...well...isn't. I'm so looking forward to the debates. Assuming she'll actually show up, this being a coronation and all.
He's calm and sincere. His opponent...well...isn't. I'm so looking forward to the debates. Assuming she'll actually show up, this being a coronation and all.
That's true. Bernie Sanders is calm and sincere in his wrongheaded beliefs, as opposed to the undisguised and untrammeled venality of Hillary Clinton. As a candidate for the Democratic Party, he is definitely preferable to her — and, to be honest, a better fit for today's Democratic Party, which is more or less a communist party at this stage of things. America deserves a choice that includes an out-and-proud totalitarian and communist Democratic Party instead of the current party lying about its stands, implementing the communist agenda by stealth and degrees.
Americans may even vote for communism. I'll think I'll check out at that time, if it's still allowed to us overseas Americans.
I remain hopeful that someone on the center-right will emerge who can articulate that the Republican Party is the last, best hope of liberty, freedom, and an economically-inclusive America. We are in a titanic struggle between individual freedom and the rule of law, and a boot stamping on our faces, forever. However, I expect that the Stupid Party will continue to let the communists frame all issues and tell the public what the Stupid Party stands for, instead of speaking for itself.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 05/22/1501:41 PM
Originally Posted By: Rear Admiral
Bernie Sanders is... a better fit for today's Democratic Party, which is more or less a communist party at this stage of things.
Oh, fer Christ's sake, Shill, that claptrap's a century old. Don't you ever want to change it up a bit?
Nah, that would require thought and effort, which is the last thing you'd want to evoke from your target audience.
Originally Posted By: Rear Admiral
the Stupid Party...
Spin it all you want, Shill. You'll never turn that phrase into anything but Bobby Jindal's epitaph.
Edit: Here ya go, Shill. Straight from the horse's ass mouth, although why this only ranks fourth is a mystery, since it's really the first thing you all should attend to:
Originally Posted By: Bobby Jindal
The fourth thing we’ve got to do, we’ve got to stop being the stupid party. And I’m serious; it’s time for a new Republican Party that talks like adults. It’s time for us to articulate our plans and our vision in real terms. It’s no secret that we had a number of Republicans that damaged the brand this year with offensive and bizarre comments. I’m here to say, we’ve had enough of that.
Go ahead and describe for us how the Democratic Party's principles deviate from those of a communist party.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 05/23/1505:50 AM
^Bwahahaha. The fact that you chose not to respond until I added the video clip the morning after speaks volumes about you trying to reach your target audience. But you get a point for rembering the "-ic", unlike some of your fellow Kool-Aid Quaffers.
There are only three kinds of people who think the Democrats are Communists:
The Koch Brothers and their fellow Plutocrats
Their Paid Shills (such as yourself)
Gullible Fuckers like your parrot, Barry.
FWIW: Real Democrats think Obama's a closet Republican.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 05/23/1506:11 AM
Is it "Communist" to think that Old Folks shouldn't have to stuggle to eat, Shill?
FWIW: Real Democrats think Obama's a closet Republican.
That's because Obama is a failure and, "real Democrats," always believe that failure occurs when someone isn't liberal enough. Therefore, he must've failed because he's too much of a Republican and things will work out much better if we elect a Democrat who's even more liberal next time. If that's even possible, considering Obama was ranked as the most liberal member of the Senate at the time of his election.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 05/23/1506:50 AM
Originally Posted By: Steezo
That's because Obama is a failure and, "real Democrats," always believe that failure occurs when someone isn't liberal enough.
Yep, 'cause people "always" react in the same knee-jerky manner as the gullible.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 05/23/1507:22 AM
BTW, Steez, can you see Russia from your house?
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 05/23/1508:08 AM
And, Admiral, let us NOT forget, despite the political convenince it'll cost you...
Not a Palin fan at all, but you don't actually believe she said that, right? I mean, if you want to feel all superior and shit, you should use actual quotes. And what she actually said about Russia was 100% factual.
FWIW: Real Democrats think Obama's a closet Republican.
That's because Obama is a failure and, "real Democrats," always believe that failure occurs when someone isn't liberal enough. Therefore, he must've failed because he's too much of a Republican and things will work out much better if we elect a Democrat who's even more liberal next time. If that's even possible, considering Obama was ranked as the most liberal member of the Senate at the time of his election.
When in reality he failed because he's a failure. No shame in it, really. He was set up for failure from the very start. Serial mudsharking mom, serial spouse punching absentee dad, always being told how special and smart he was. "Smartest man in the room", he and we were told. A savior. A uniter. Hope and Change. No one could live up to that hype. Sure, his ideas are wrong. But the bottom line is that the man simply doesn't have what it takes to succeed on the international stage.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 05/23/1511:15 AM
Originally Posted By: Barry the Pirate
A savior. A uniter. Hope and Change...
Aaaaaand, there, right on cue, is your parrot. Nicely trained.
Originally Posted By: Steezo
Also, from my house, I only ever see Russian strippers.
You DO check your pockets for your wallet afterwards, yes?
Why does rear shit lick talk about communism like its a bad thing?
In all seriousness people that talk about " communism" don't have a fuckng clue . They haven't read a word of Marx or Ingels. They don't know dick about dialectical materialism. Don't understand the transitional phase between socialism and communism. Don't know what end stage communism even is. The fact has anyone can be so utterly tucking clueless to describe the democrats , a center right party, " communist " just shows how completely distorted and rightwing the narrative has become
I doubt anyone, on any side, could live up to the "true" label. "Real" this, "pure" that, "not (insert whatever political bent here) enough". It's all in- fighting bullshit that steers the masses attention from the real problem: The fact that Barack Hussein Obama is a Kenyan- born pretender to the throne. Who...hold on...smokes cigarettes. Gasp.
No. It's Ingels. Laura Ingels. Read her in 4th grade. Haven't read much Groucho tho.
Where in the transition do the arrests start? Or don't those happen either?
Right on time. Puppets, we are.
Lol, arrests? Louisiana is the largest prison on earth. It's your capitalist shithole utopia that arrests millions for " drug crimes " to line their pockets. The astounding hypocricy of you as a drug consumer. Yet you don't care because they're just niggrs and you think you're too smart to ever get caught. We've had this conversation a hundred times and it's nauseatingly tiresome.
All the various political systems have some merit on paper. Its when you factor in human beings and corruption is where they all take a big shit.
The goal of communism is the eliminations of all forms of exploitation and oppressions. The goal if capitalism, by definition, is accumulating surplus profit produced by the labor of employees.
The goal of communism is the eliminations of all forms of exploitation and oppressions. The goal if capitalism, by definition, is accumulating surplus profit produced by the labor of employees.
That's not the goal of communism. That is the stated goal of communism, in order to befuddle the masses and get them to support a change of control. The actual goal of communism is to allow a different set of "oppressors" to take their turn.
The goal of communism is the eliminations of all forms of exploitation and oppressions. The goal if capitalism, by definition, is accumulating surplus profit produced by the labor of employees.
That's not the goal of communism. That is the stated goal of communism, in order to befuddle the masses and get them to support a change of control. The actual goal of communism is to allow a different set of "oppressors" to take their turn.
You are an astounding idiot. The goal of a philosophy is what is stated by its creators. What someone may have done its name that peverts it's intention is irrelevant. We won't even go into the countless lies told about the Soviet Union, china, or now North Korea. Pol pot wasn't a communist and china hadn't been communist for decades. The tiananmen square massacre occurred under capitalist regime. I doubt you've read a sentence of what Marx and Engels actually wrote. You can try to distort the reality of communism all you want but you can't deny the truth of my definition of capitalism. I'll leave now before you start talking in metaphors about crabs crawling out of pots.
It's interesting that you fucks aren't so willing to let the Tea Party speak for itself as you are for the communists. You know the Tea Partiers are all lying about it, despite their actual behavior, but the communists have just been misunderstood. Soviet Union, PRC, and North Korea — I don't need to read your lying pamphlets, because I have been there. I have been there for almost 30 years, and have seen how life in those places has gotten better the farther they get from your buddies Marks & Ingalls.
No. It's Ingels. Laura Ingels. Read her in 4th grade. Haven't read much Groucho tho.
Where in the transition do the arrests start? Or don't those happen either?
Right on time. Puppets, we are.
Lol, arrests? Louisiana is the largest prison on earth. It's your capitalist shithole utopia that arrests millions for " drug crimes " to line their pockets. The astounding hypocricy of you as a drug consumer. Yet you don't care because they're just niggrs and you think you're too smart to ever get caught. We've had this conversation a hundred times and it's nauseatingly tiresome.
It really is. Yet you keep coming back. And still haven't told me what I'm going to get "caught" doing.
I have to admit I love how you and the bj take it all so seriously.
It's interesting that you fucks aren't so willing to let the Tea Party speak for itself as you are for the communists. You know the Tea Partiers are all lying about it, despite their actual behavior, but the communists have just been misunderstood. Soviet Union, PRC, and North Korea — I don't need to read your lying pamphlets, because I have been there. I have been there for almost 30 years, and have seen how life in those places has gotten better the farther they get from your buddies Marks & Ingalls.
Lol! You've fucking been to North Korea for thirty years??? Why do the fascists let you have an internet connection, shut the fuck up.
Regardless of whatever jumbled point rear ass smear was trying to make, one persons anecdotel evidence doesn't mean shit but it's common for right wing turds to think their own Narrow personal experiences count for everyone and can only be that way. Kind of like a person who lived in Wyoming all their life being an expert on America
Why does rear shit lick talk about communism like its a bad thing?
In all seriousness people that talk about " communism" don't have a fuckng clue . They haven't read a word of Marx or Ingels. They don't know dick about dialectical materialism. Don't understand the transitional phase between socialism and communism. Don't know what end stage communism even is. The fact has anyone can be so utterly tucking clueless to describe the democrats , a center right party, " communist " just shows how completely distorted and rightwing the narrative has become
Maybe because every single country in the history of the world that has based their economy on pure communism has ended up being an economic disaster. U.S.S.R., every country in the Warsaw Bloc, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Cuba, Zimbabwe, every fucking pissant third world country in South America, Central America, and Africa, none of them experience economic growth as an end result of basing their economies on Communism. The only countries on that list that have experienced any economic growth only did so when they either merged Communism with capitalism or switched to either pure capitalism or some combination of capitalism and socialism. That is not right wing claptrap. That is world history, particularly World History in the 20th Century.
Endless lies and revisionist history. Your example if Cambodia is the most glaring example. Do I have to point out yet again your stupidity in Cambodia like when you made the ridiculous " Chomsky supported the khmer rouge" that I easily debunked
The Soviet Union industrialized it's self inside of 15 years from a third world country. Something that took the united states over 150 years with slave labor
The idea that the democrats are " socialist" when both parties spend 90% of their time sucking the dicks and taking it up the ass from corporate lobbyists is astounding. When Henry Paulson has enough power to stand next to the president and tell him to hurry up and finish during a speach that's the furthest thing from communism and the closest thing to a plutocracy possible. When Goldman Sachs writes an eight page long document bail out proposal that states in it that it can never be questioned by any court of law ever.... What the fuck do you call that? When Obama writes a health care proposal that is more conservative than the shit newt Gingrich came up with in 1992 and even more conservative than Nixons own proposal, yet it's demagogued as socialism as if this farce is even remotely a serious dialog. I call that a shifting if the spectrum to hard right to where a center right idea is now considered radical. You people are fucking demented
Rear Admiral is terrified of anyone to the left of David Koch, and thinks Bernie's an out-and-out communist who will (gasp) force his clients to pay taxes on their yachts, and (shudders) scrap the TPP;
Fat Bloody Fingers* is terrified of anyone to the right of Leon Trotsky and thinks Bernie's not nearly Commie enough;
Barney Da Marksman is terrified someone's going to take away his guns before he gets to shoot his other foot off;
Barry the Parrot is the Admiral's great "how many positions can I con some Goober into taking that totally screw them over" experiment;
Steezo is Alaskan, so he gets special dispensation. And a cookie;
Charin** clearly doesn't give a fuck anymore, as evidenced by the ill-conceived peen pic, but I'm guessing he'll make up for 'ol stubby by posting with balls for a change;
TUP makes a largely (but not entirely) accurate analysis of the history of (state) communism but doesn't (despite FBF's need to tar with a broad brush) accuse Bernie of either being an out-and-out communist or (despite the Admiral's insistence) the antichrist;
Faceblaster is simply happy to take the piss out of everybody; and
JB is consuming all the alcohol Chuck can't/won't and thinking it's it's gonna be, as the Chinese curse has it, "interesting times".
* Whose screen name, I just realized after seeing one too many of/if transpositions, is reflective of his cellphone posting style
** You gentlemen have un-gimped the guy, yes? Keeping him in over that stunt more than a day's simply excessive. Give him a chance to do something truly boxworthy. Or simply mock him. Hell, if I can do it...
Sometime I think we might be on the same side yet you post such silliness. Funny you mention Trotsky who was a traitor and got what he deserved. I can't take you seriously when you praise TUPs horseshit as being " accurate" it may be accurate if the only version of history you've studied is Americas propaganda.
Can you dispute a single point I've made about Paulson and the banks power?
Sometime I think we might be on the same side yet you post such silliness. Funny you mention Trotsky who was a traitor and got what he deserved. I can't take you seriously when you praise TUPs horseshit as being " accurate" it may be accurate if the only version of history you've studied is Americas propaganda.
Can you dispute a single point I've made about Paulson and the banks power?
Propaganda my ass. If the Soviet economic system was so damn whoop de doo then explain to me why there is no Soviet economic system today? Glasnost could have never happened without empty shelves and a lack of consumer goods. Just the fact that you consider the Khmer Rouge to be a successful economic model not only eliminates your credibility it also eliminates your concepts or history and reality. When it comes to world history and economics you are the Jessica Simpson of this site.
The Soviet Union industrialized it's self inside of 15 years from a third world country. Something that took the united states over 150 years with slave labor
Missed this joke of a post somehow. Are you decreeing that the Soviet Union did not use slave labor? My one word response to that inanity--gulags.
All the various political systems have some merit on paper. Its when you factor in human beings and corruption is where they all take a big shit.
This^ No stopping human greed.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 05/27/1506:22 PM
Originally Posted By: CxGxPx
Sometime I think we might be on the same side...
Wait, there are sides???
Sometimes I suspect that you're as much of a communist as Tritone was black. Which is to say I'm starting to think you're only here to rile up the goobers. Case in point: I think an actual communist would want to attack the Admirals lies from all "sides", and not split hairs with those Lenin would deem "useful idiots".
Originally Posted By: the unknown pervert
Are you decreeing that the Soviet Union did not use slave labor? My one word response to that inanity--gulags.
There were far more slaves outside the gulags than inside of 'em, and they're the ones who actually industrialized Russia. As far as industrial productivity went, the gulags were about as successful as "Just say(ing) No" to drugs.
Originally Posted By: CxGxPx
Oh and by the way, I've wiped more liquor off my chin then you've drank
Did Ton Uv Poop actually write " why is there no soviet system today ". Hahahahshdhhguubdinvctg;5(;;$?.6. .......... Don't you follow basic history? Their system is shit today because after the failed coup they became capitalists.? You know, the shit you think is so good.
Why the constant attacks on gulags. They held criminals. Like, you know, in the United States when some one commits a crime, they go to fucking jail. The idea that gulags where much more beyond a standard prison system is another lie perpetuated by America for decades. The idea of soviets using slaves is also dubious but I find it extremely humorous given the United States own history on THAT topic. You know, the great capitalist utopia. But of course most people around see blacks as subhuman anyways so who gives a shit right?
Stalin introduced forced collectiviction of farming because the grain Barron's where hording food during a famine.
I missed ton uv poops babbling about the khamer rouge. Hes STILL trying to use that to make some moronic point. Christ you're a fucking idiot so I'll spell it out for you . Of course I don't support the khamer rouge , neither does Chomsky and neither did it have a fucking thing to do with communism. Just because that was what the piece of shit pol pot cloaked himself in doesn't make it true. He did kill from seven hundred thousand to one and a half million estimated. But you seem to forget we had bombed Cambodia into oblivion before he killed anyone and millions had already died. Half the country was fucking homeless. People were actually moving back into the jungle because there was no food and the people still in the cities where starving because no one was producing food . The one good thing he did was stoping people from moving into the rain Forrest and forcing people to make food again. If you think that was too harsh of him I don't give a shit . He was a piece of crap but he was a mere turd on the top of the American manure pile
Case in point: I think an actual communist would want to attack the Admirals lies from all "sides", and not split hairs with those Lenin would deem "useful idiots".
The Admiral's lies??? Hand to God, I am a real lawyer.
JB I'd be wiling to put my liquor receipts against yours any day of the fucking week.
Yeah, I wouldn't buy youse a drink either after all the high school politics you spout off with all the damn time. Raging against the machine full time must be exhausting, buy your own damn drinks.
JB I'd be wiling to put my liquor receipts against yours any day of the fucking week.
Yeah, I wouldn't buy youse a drink either after all the high school politics you spout off with all the damn time. Raging against the machine full time must be exhausting, buy your own damn drinks.
Who's talking about anybody buying anyone else drinks? I was saying we'd compare who drinks more by our own purchases. I'm not surprised a conservative has low reading comprehension
Sometimes I suspect that you're as much of a communist as Tritone was black. Which is to say I'm starting to think you're only here to rile up the goobers.
Originally Posted By: CxGxPx
JB I'd be wiling to put my liquor receipts against yours any day of the fucking week.
And there's another thing: Since when do communists save their liquor receipts? You know who saves liquor receipts? Suits. People with expense accounts. People who itemize their deductions. Yet you try to come off like you're working some overnight stock job at Pathmark.
Sleepy Gene of XPT my ass. You're the Tritone of AWOP.
I'm not surprised a conservative has low reading comprehension
lol. Yeah, I'm a conservative. I'm the ex porn mope bukkake boy, remember? Talk about low comprehension. Or retention, or just self involvement and blind rage. Ina no.
I'm not surprised a conservative has low reading comprehension
lol. Yeah, I'm a conservative. I'm the ex porn mope bukkake boy, remember? Talk about low comprehension. Or retention, or just self involvement and blind rage. Ina no.
We're you the guy gia Jordan threw off the set in they efukt clip?
I had to look up pathmark. My job pays a little better but sucks a lot more. I do have a shelf with 16 empty hard liquor bottles on it accumulated in about six months time. Not to mention the dozens of gallons of beer I've consumed in that period.
I don't know who sleepy gene is, before my time. Jerkles or who ever fag stuck that there.
A true communist would tend to look at pornography as too exploitive of a profession.
My job pays better than Pathmark as well. And I get paid even when I am sleeping off a drunk, rubbing one out, or catching a matinee of Age of Ultron. I know that really chaps your hide.
I could give two shits about Dennis Hastert. He's not my guy. But his arrest this weekend reveals three huge scandals in American politics:
(1) The government is watching everyone, doing whatever, all the time, and has extended its panopticon through "mandatory reporting requirements" imposed to require all of us to inform on each other. That's not acceptable as a matter of personal liberty.
(2) We have regulations which limit what we can do with our own money.
(3) Dennis Hastert, a man who had a career as a schoolteacher before being elected to Congress, where he never earned more than US$200,000 a year while having to maintain two households, somehow had amassed a personal fortune sufficient to allow him to pay US$3.5 million in hush money.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 05/29/1511:15 PM
Of course he's not your guy. He's no longer useful to you or your clients. And please, for the love of fuck with with your pretend concerns about personal liberty. You care only about the liberty of your clients to do as they will, without concern for anyone else.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 05/29/1511:33 PM
Originally Posted By: Rear Admiral
(2) We have regulations which limit what we can do with our own money.
Well, first of all, Shill, It's really not "your" own money, is it? It's your clients' money, and if you're oh-so-clever enough, you'll con the goobers into protecting it with their votes, won't you. Yes? I mean, with your tales of whores and derring do passing out in tropical ports, how could you fail?
That aside, answer me this: Why should David Koch's Billions of dollars give him greater political power than BDM? Or Jerkules? Or The Unknown Pervert?
How, exactly, DO Corporations = People?
That's the real question you're shucken' and divin' while trying not to answer, Shill. And people are starting to expect an answer.
I'd take the self described libertarians slightly more seriously if they were for the abolition of all corporate law. Why would a libertarian be in favor of an artificial government construct? The owners of enterprise should remain open to all personal liability if their product causes harm, completely exposed to market forces.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 05/29/1511:56 PM
^ I'd believe you were real if you didn't try so hard with the doctrinaire-sprecht, Sprockets.
The government is watching everyone, doing whatever, all the time, and has extended its panopticon through "mandatory reporting requirements" imposed to require all of us to inform on each other. That's not acceptable as a matter of personal liberty
There's a conspiracy theory out there about how the Republicans refuse to really oppose Obama because he has dirt on all of them and will destroy anyone who really tries to block his agenda. There was a story about how the CIA was spying on all of Congress that backs up this theory. Apparently the Nazi's did the same thing way back when.
What fucking planet do you live on? The republicans have obstructed Obama at every turn while he cries like a bitch bending over asking for more prick dank u massa!
Obama is a corporate suck up stooge virtually identical to the republicans
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 05/30/1512:11 AM
Right. There's a vast conspiracy of mid-level banking regulators keeping close tabs on every decent, God Fearing ex-wrestling coach who finds his way into the Speaker's Chair and starts making large, unexplained currency transactions. Who knew those guys would uncover a kiddie-diddler?
Well, the Republicans control both the house and the senate at the moment and they're basically not doing anything with that third of the government.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 05/30/1512:15 AM
Aside from damage-control, and not just from Denny. The tan man has much to answer for as well. Or, rather, he has a lack of things to answer for. Most Do-Nothing congress ever.
And please, for the love of fuck with with your pretend concerns about personal liberty. You care only about the liberty of your clients to do as they will, without concern for anyone else.
Ridiculous. I care for everyone's liberty, for there but for the grace of God go I. Since I prefer to be unmolested by government myself, I would rather that you were left alone as well. And to be perfectly straight with you, I have never, in 20 years of practice, had a client ask for assistance in planning to break the law. Clients only ever ask about how to comply with law.
And please, for the love of fuck with with your pretend concerns about personal liberty. You care only about the liberty of your clients to do as they will, without concern for anyone else.
Ridiculous. I care for everyone's liberty, for there but for the grace of God go I. Since I prefer to be unmolested by government myself, I would rather that you were left alone as well. And to be perfectly straight with you, I have never, in 20 years of practice, had a client ask for assistance in planning to break the law. Clients only ever ask about how to comply with law.
But how do feel about niiggers
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 05/30/1512:34 AM
Originally Posted By: Rear Admiral
Ridiculous. I care for everyone's liberty, for there but for the grace of God go I. Since I prefer to be unmolested by government myself, I would rather that you were left alone as well.
Epiphany after the deputy consul bailed you out of a Thai jail? Not that there's anything wrong with that...
Originally Posted By: Rear Admiral
And to be perfectly straight with you...
Well, we all know that's a lie, but let's roll with it...
Originally Posted By: Rear Admiral
I have never, in 20 years of practice, had a client ask for assistance in planning to break the law.
Of course you haven't. I expect your clients to be much quicker on the uptake than the folks you're hired to con. But, then you have this:
Originally Posted By: Rear Admiral
Clients only ever ask about how to comply with law.
Which means, in reality: Can I get in trouble for fucking the public for this, or do you know a subterfuge that'll keep us in the clear?
Well, the Republicans control both the house and the senate at the moment and they're basically not doing anything with that third of the government.
That's a feature, not a bug. You think we don't have enough laws already?
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 05/30/1501:07 AM
Wait, Epiphany of my own:
Originally Posted By: Rear Admiral
Clients only ever ask about how to comply with law.
How to comply with the law? Or "How to write the law?"
Nahhhh. Nah, nah, nah. It makes sense now. All that time on the Pacific Rim. You weren't there to mentor your pet Alex on the finer aspects of the ladyboys. You were there to advise on writing the TPP.
Care for Everyone's Liberty? I've got a Bridge fer sale...
(1) The government is watching everyone, doing whatever, all the time, and has extended its panopticon through "mandatory reporting requirements" imposed to require all of us to inform on each other. That's not acceptable as a matter of personal liberty.
(2) We have regulations which limit what we can do with our own money.
So, there's how many actual "Bernie" posts in this thread?
Seriously, when FBF starts in on "historical revisionism" and Trotsky "deserving it", I'm out. I guess we could argue capitalism v. everything else all day, but when you start sounding like the kid running the till at Left Bank Books, I'm not having fun anymore.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 06/08/1509:35 PM
Originally Posted By: Barry the Pirate
Seriously, when FBF...
Oh, fuck you, there's absolutely no way to take the trite teen of AWOP seriously.
Much ado about nothing, Parrot, but there's no "there" there for you to be bloviating about.
House Democrats rebuffed a dramatic personal appeal from President Obama on Friday, torpedoing his ambitious push to expand his trade negotiating power — and, quite likely, his chance to secure a legacy-defining trade accord spanning the Pacific Ocean.
The real message sent today, though, was not to Obama, but to Shillary and the Jebutaunte.
That's where the primary threat comes in, from the group started by former Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean, Democracy For America.
"Ahead of today's votes we wanted to be very clear to Democratic members of Congress: If you vote for either Medicare-cutting Trade Adjustment Assistance legislation or Fast Track Authority for the job-killing Trans-Pacific Partnership, we will not lift a finger or raise a penny to protect you when you're attacked in 2016, we will encourage our progressive allies to join us in leaving you to rot, and we will actively search for opportunities to primary you with a real Democrat," said Jim Dean, chairman of Democracy for America.
In 180 Seconds You Will Be Voting For Bernie Sanders:
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 06/21/1505:55 AM
"A Clinton Campaign spokesman defended the choice of Roosevelt Island for her campaign's inaugural rally, noting, somewhat pridefully, that the location's inaccessibility 'is the perfect excuse for the piss-poor turnout.'"
If I start seeing Bernie signs all over my neighborhood, I'll know the Republicans have won the next election. He's the new Ralph Nader.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 06/26/1504:41 PM
^^ Not if he keeps his campaign to the Democratic primary, as promised. Ralph Nader was only "Ralph Nader" (or, more accurately, "Ross Perot") because he ran on a 3rd party ticket and siphoned just enough votes to toss it to W, just like Perot did to H.W. in '92.
I don't even live there, man, and haven't for 20 years. I can renounce citizenship at a moment's notice if I have to do so. All my assets are outside the grasp of the United States government. I'm frightened for you more than I am for me. The United States is very likely doomed, but electing someone like Sanders — especially after eight destructive years of Barry — would be confirmation of the terminal madness.
And for once, I believe I am in agreement with the people who blame everything bad on George W. Bush. This one belongs to Bush. It was "Compassionate Conservative" Dubya Bush who persuaded Congress to excuse another 15% of former American taxpayers from the obligation to participate in funding the United States government, bringing the balance of freeloaders to the point of no return and putting the Free Shit Army in charge. Did you know that in 1985, only 15% of Americans didn't have an obligation to pay income taxes? Now it's 49.5%. Is there any surprise that 47% of Americans would consider electing a Socialist as President?
Don't worry, I won't. I'm kind of looking forward to returning as an illegal alien and to all the goodies I'll get as an undocumented Democrat. All of the benefits, none of the burden.
But I'm sure it will be bittersweet to return and find the country I loved is gone.
Every country on Earth, save the United States of America, is in full retreat from the disaster of socialism. Some things I guess you just have to try for yourself.
Every country on Earth, save the United States of America, is in full retreat from the disaster of socialism. Some things I guess you just have to try for yourself.
Do some research and get back to us whether the Nordic countries are building out their social-welfare states and raising taxes, or slashing services and cutting taxes.
Iceland has a population of 320,000. I've been to Iceland; my roommate in law school was from Iceland. Everyone there knows each other and they're all cousins. By no stretch of the imagination is Iceland an appropriate model for any society other than Iceland's. For example, Iceland has more annual tourist visitors than residents. Each tourist arrival brings money and leaves it there. (It should also be noted that although Iceland is strongly communitarian, it's not socialist. There is no collective ownership of any industries. Iceland is a relatively free market with a welfare state.)
And, it is to be noted, Iceland's welfare state has access to another large quantity of "other people's money" because the Scandinavian countries have formed a community whereby the citizens of each are treated as citizens of any for purposes of migration and access to all government benefits. There are few Scandis who want to move to Iceland to live and work, while there are plenty of Icelanders who've hied themselves off to Copenhagen, Oslo, or Stockholm to get on the dole, courtesy of that other country's taxpayers.
Behind every socialist "success story" lies OPM. And eventually, every society runs out of OPM.
P.S., Commie: Iceland has recovered precisely because it allowed banks and businesses to fail, which is the opposite of socialism. Mitt Romney was right, and you dumb fuckers excoriated him as Satan himself for suggesting let companies go bankrupt.
In the meantime, let me be very blunt and tell you why I am running.
This country faces more serious problems today than at any time in modern history, and establishment politics will not successfully resolve them.
Corporate greed is rampant, and the very rich keep growing richer while everyone else grows poorer. Despite an explosion in technology and a huge increase in productivity, the middle class continues to disappear, most Americans work longer hours for lower wages, and 45 million live in poverty.
The skyrocketing level of income and wealth inequality is not only grotesque and immoral, it is economically unsustainable. It is unconscionable that 99% of all new income goes to the top 1%. It is absurd that the top one-tenth of 1% own almost as much wealth as the bottom 90%, and that one family (the Waltons of Walmart) has more wealth than the bottom 130 million Americans.
As a result of the disastrous Supreme Court ruling on Citizens United, the billionaire class is spending huge amounts of money to buy candidates and elections. We are now witnessing the undermining of American democracy and the rapid movement toward oligarchy where a handful of very wealthy families and their Super PACs will control our government.
The scientific community is virtually unanimous in telling us that climate change is real, is caused by human activity, and is already bringing catastrophic damage to our planet. Yet, the Republican Party is prepared to reject science in order to gain campaign contributions from the Koch brothers, Big Energy companies and others who make billions on fossil fuels. If we do not act boldly on climate change, the planet we leave to our grandchildren may be uninhabitable.
The United States once led the world in terms of the percentage of our young people who had college degrees. Today, in a highly competitive global economy, we are now in 12th place. Hundreds of thousands of bright young people have given up on the dream of higher education, while millions of others leave school with oppressive debt.
Our infrastructure -- roads, bridges, rail, airports, water systems, wastewater plants, levees, dams -- is crumbling, and Congress refuses to appropriate anywhere near the necessary funds to rebuild it. If we do not invest substantially in infrastructure, a bad situation will only become much worse.
Despite substantial gains, we still have a long way to go to achieve equality for minorities. Instead of investing in opportunities, we are locking people up at an incredible rate. We now have the highest incarceration rate in the entire world with over 2 million in prison and millions more on probation or parole. We have a broken immigration system that divides families and keeps millions of hard-working people in the shadows.
Most of the major Wall Street financial institutions that we bailed out because they were "too big to fail," are now bigger than they used to be. The six largest financial institutions now have assets equivalent to nearly 60% of our GDP, issue 35% of the mortgages, and oversee 65% of credit cards.
Our tax system is wildly unfair - rigged to benefit the very rich. Major corporations that earn billions in profits stash their money in tax havens and pay nothing in federal income taxes, while billionaire hedge fund managers pay a lower effective tax rate than nurses or teachers.
Despite growing poverty among seniors, almost all Republicans, and some Democrats, want to cut Social Security and benefits for disabled veterans. They want more austerity for the elderly, the children, the sick and the poor, and more tax breaks for the rich.
The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have cost us thousands of lives and trillions of dollars. The United States spends more on the military than the next nine biggest-spending countries combined. Today, there are massive cost over-runs with defense contractors and the Pentagon cannot even pass an independent audit.
We are at a moment of truth. We need to face up to the reality of where we are as a nation, and we need a mass movement of people to change that reality.
Let's be clear. This campaign is not about Bernie Sanders. It's about a grassroots movement of Americans standing up and saying: "Enough is enough. This country and our government belong to all of us, not just a handful of billionaires."
I have discussed some of the major crises that we face. Let me give you the outline of an agenda which addresses these problems.
Jobs, Jobs, Jobs: The truth is that real unemployment in our country is not the "official" and widely-reported 5.4 percent. Counting those who are underemployed and those who have given up looking for work, real unemployment is almost 11 percent. Even more disturbingly, real unemployment for white and Hispanic youth is over 30 percent, while African-American youth unemployment is over 50 percent.
We need a major federal jobs program. The most effective way to do that is to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure. To do that, I have introduced legislation which would invest $1 trillion over 5 years to modernize our country's physical infrastructure. This would create and maintain at least 13 million good-paying jobs. It would also make our country more productive, efficient and safe.
As a member of Congress who voted against NAFTA, CAFTA, Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China (PNTR) and is helping to lead the opposition against the TPP, I will continue my opposition to trade policies which have cost us millions of decent paying jobs as corporate America shuts down plants here and moves them to low-wage countries.
Raising Wages: Today, millions of Americans are working for starvation wages and median family income has declined by almost $5,000 since 1999. The current federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour is totally inadequate. We need to raise the minimum wage to a living wage - $15 an hour over the next few years. Our goal must be that no full-time worker in this country lives in poverty. We must also bring about pay equity for women. There is no rational reason why women should be earning 78 cents on the dollar compared to men who perform the same work.
Further, we need to implement "family values" for American working families. It is unacceptable that the United States is the only major country on earth that does not guarantee family and medical leave, sick time and paid vacations.
Wealth and Income Inequality: Today, the richest 400 Americans own over $2.2 trillion in wealth, more than the bottom 150 million Americans combined. Meanwhile, nearly half of all Americans have less than $10,000 in savings and have no idea how they will be able to retire with dignity.
In order to reverse the massive transfer of wealth and income from the middle class to the very rich that we have seen in recent years, we need real tax reform which makes the wealthy and profitable corporations begin to pay their fair share of taxes. It is fiscally irresponsible that the U.S. Treasury loses about $100 billion a year because corporations and the rich stash their profits in the Cayman Islands, Bermuda and other tax havens.
We need a tax system which is fair and progressive. Children should not go hungry in this country while profitable corporations and the wealthy avoid their tax responsibilities.
Reforming Wall Street: I have introduced legislation which would break up the largest financial institutions in the country. In my view, if a bank is too big to fail, it is too big to exist. Wall Street cannot continue to be an island unto itself investing trillions in risky financial instruments. We need banks that invest in the job-creating productive economy. We do not need more speculation and gambling in casino-type activities.
Campaign Finance Reform: We need to return to a one-person, one-vote democracy. It is not acceptable that the Koch brothers and other billionaires are spending endless sums of money to buy elections. I have introduced legislation which would overturn the horrendous Citizens United decision and will only appoint Supreme Court justices who are prepared to do that. We must also demand disclosure of all large campaign contributions. Long term, we need to move to public funding of elections.
Fighting Climate Change: The United States must lead the world in reversing climate change and make certain that this planet is habitable for our children and grandchildren. We must transform our energy system away from fossil fuels and into energy efficiency and sustainable energies. Millions of homes and buildings need to be weatherized, our transportation system needs to be energy efficient and we need to greatly accelerate the progress we are already seeing in wind, solar, geothermal and other forms of sustainable energy. Transforming our energy system will not only protect the environment, it will create good-paying jobs.
Health Care for All: The United States remains the only major country on earth that does not guarantee health care for all as a right. Despite the modest gains of the Affordable Care Act, 35 million Americans continue to lack health insurance and many more are under-insured. Yet, we continue paying far more per capita for health care than any other nation. The United States must move toward a Medicare-for-All single-payer system.
Protecting Our Most Vulnerable: Today, the United States has more people living in poverty than at almost any time in the modern history of our country. We have the highest rate of childhood poverty of any major nation, and millions of seniors and people with disabilities struggle to put food on the table because of insufficient Social Security benefits.
In my view, we have a moral responsibility to make certain that no American goes hungry or sleeps on the street. We must also make certain that seniors and people with disabilities can live in dignity. Not only must we vigorously oppose Republican attacks on the social safety net, we must expand benefits for those most in need. That is why I have recently introduced legislation which would extend the solvency of Social Security until 2065, while increasing benefits for those most in need.
Expanding Opportunity and Equality: We need to stop using prisons as a response to poverty. Our criminal justice system needs to be reformed so that we do not continue to house non-violent offenders at huge expense when that money could be used to rebuild communities and create opportunity. We need federal leadership to reform policing in America, to end racial profiling, and to fight the illegal activities of hate groups. We need comprehensive immigration reform that protects families and leads to a responsible and realistic path to citizenship.
Dismantling Structural Racism: Throughout much of our history, the elite in America has divided people along racial lines in an effort to consolidate wealth and power. We need to simultaneously address the structural and institutional racism which exists in this country while at the same time vigorously attacking the grotesque level of income and wealth inequality which is making the very rich much richer, and everyone else - especially the African-American community - much poorer. Meanwhile, too many people of color in this country find themselves subjected to a system that treats citizens who have not committed crimes like criminals. We have more people locked up in jail than any other country on earth. We need to invest in jobs and education, not jails and incarceration. Finally, no person should have to worry that a routine interaction with law enforcement will end in violence and death. Black lives matter: we must reform our criminal justice system, move away from the militarization of police forces, and invest in community policing.
College for All: The United States must join Germany and many other countries in understanding that investing in our young people's education is investing in the future of our nation. I have introduced legislation to make tuition in public colleges and universities free, as well as substantially lowering interest rates on student loans.
War and Peace: I voted against the war in Iraq, and that was the right vote. We must be vigorous in combatting terrorism, but we can't do it alone. We must be part of an international coalition that includes Muslim nations which not only defeats ISIS but which works hard to create conditions for lasting peace. I will vigorously oppose an endless war in the Middle East.
My approach to campaigning is pretty simple and straight-forward. We hold a lot of public meetings in towns that are big and small. People ask questions and make comments. We discuss the important issues facing our country. And that's it. Nothing very fancy. It's called democracy and I like that approach very much. It's something I've done my whole political life.
Nobody can deny the appetite of America's freeloader class for MOAR SOCIALISM!™ The allure of liberating Other People's Money and spending it on more sensible priorities, like that XBOX you've been wanting, is irresistible. Why should anyone be denied anything they want, in a country as rich as ours? (Except, of course, the economic freedom that the kulaks and Jews want.) Sure, socialism's immiserated and killed hundreds of millions of people, and everybody else in the world who has tried it wants to get the hell away from it, but this time — finally! — we'll get it right. Now that the freeloaders have an absolute majority, I can even imagine Bernie winning, and getting right to work destroying the few productive parts of the economy that Barack missed. Yay socialism.
Nobody can deny the appetite of America's freeloader class for MOAR SOCIALISM!™ The allure of liberating Other People's Money and spending it on more sensible priorities, like that XBOX you've been wanting, is irresistible. Why should anyone be denied anything they want, in a country as rich as ours? (Except, of course, the economic freedom that the kulaks and Jews want.) Sure, socialism's immiserated and killed hundreds of millions of people, and everybody else in the world who has tried it wants to get the hell away from it, but this time — finally! — we'll get it right. Now that the freeloaders have an absolute majority, I can even imagine Bernie winning, and getting right to work destroying the few productive parts of the economy that Barack missed. Yay socialism.
I'm not reading your wall of garbage, I'll just ask a question. Sanders is in favor if a small tax on financial transactions performed by Wall Street vultures. You know, like every other industrialized civilization that's actually civilized. What do you think if that?
Sanders speech in Kenner Louisiana had about. 4500 people. The same city where Bobby jindall had a meeting and only. 1000 people showed up
Sounds like apathy for both to me. But I can see the people of Looesianner responding to promises of a handout.
You don't seem to understand that unlike the United States European countries with "high" taxes actually get something for their money. Besides it going to the military and oil Barron's
You don't seem to understand that unlike the United States European countries with "high" taxes actually get something for their money. Besides it going to the military and oil Barron's
You bet. Europe's working people also get to subsidize the importation of a criminal alien underclass that despises them and declares an intention to subjugate them when the time is right.
I realize we are a mish mosh of socialist and capitalist policies. When we go too heavy on one of the other it becomes a problem. Common to both is greed which kills either one. That partially explains the taxes going to bullshit.
You don't seem to understand that unlike the United States European countries with "high" taxes actually get something for their money. Besides it going to the military and oil Barron's
You bet. Europe's working people also get to subsidize the importation of a criminal alien underclass that despises them and declares an intention to subjugate them when the time is right.
It's hard to comprehend how someone who's suppose to be so smart and worldly can be so delusional. Next you're going to talk about no go zones
I realize we are a mish mosh of socialist and capitalist policies. When we go too heavy on one of the other it becomes a problem. Common to both is greed which kills either one. That partially explains the taxes going to bullshit.
We don't have any "socialism" stop using that word because you don't know what it means. We have a state capitalist system with a bourgeoisie ruling class
Wait a minute, we don't have ANY socialism? Just what pray tell are Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, disability, and unemployment benefits?
Wait a minute, we don't have ANY socialism? Just what pray tell are Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, disability, and unemployment benefits?
That's not the definition if socialism you fucking nitwit. Those are all benefits of state capitalism. Try reading a fucking books for once.
How can you reconcile this with your love of rape pornography? I'm attracted to pirnography that is cruel and degrading towards women, but I am ashamed of it, which is consistant with advocacy of Sandaers. You on the other hand to not seem conflicted at all about watching the violent srxual himiliation of women on videos. I don't get it.
How can you reconcile this with your love of rape pornography? I'm attracted to pirnography that is cruel and degrading towards women, but I am ashamed of it, which is consistant with advocacy of Sandaers. You on the other hand to not seem conflicted at all about watching the violent srxual himiliation of women on videos. I don't get it.
I assume you're talking to Charin. I would assume it's reconciled with being able to embrace you fantasies and not trying to repress them or pretend they don't exist in the puritanical way. Rape is one of the most common fantasies among females, it's actually very common. Again here a huge difference between fantasy and reality. The suppression of sexual expression leads to things like pedophile priests..... At the same time there is school of thought on the left that porn is exploitive in nature and shouldn't exist. Chomsky for one and most communist thought
You don't seem to understand that unlike the United States European countries with "high" taxes actually get something for their money. Besides it going to the military and oil Barron's
You bet. Europe's working people also get to subsidize the importation of a criminal alien underclass that despises them and declares an intention to subjugate them when the time is right.
This is hilarious to me as an unhindered free market in the United States. The thing you seem to worship, would also import a metric fuck ton of Aliens into this country causing wages to plummet and civil unrest at home.... Or maybe in this respect you're more of a protectionist. When conservatives bitch about illegal aliens why do they never mention harsher punishments for the businesses that hire them?
All politicians hate people. Politics is a way to gain power over people without justification for having that power. Nothing in the 11,000-year history of politics—going back to the governing elites of Mesopotamia—indicates that politicians are wiser, smarter, kinder, more moral, or better skilled at any craft (aside from politics) than we are.
But political rulers need the acquiescence of the ruled to slake the craving for power. Politicians hate you the way a junkie hates junk.
Politicians gain power by means of empty promises or threats, or both when they’re on their game. Should you vote for people who are good at politics? No. You should vote for Republicans. We’re lousy.
Believe me, I know why you don’t vote for Republicans. You see the Republican candidates and they look so ... Bush-League, Dog Walker, Rubio Rube, Get-Outta-the-Carson, Hucka-Upchuck, Ap-Paul-ling, Cruz Control, Fat-Fried Christie Crispy, Son-of-a-Kasich, Dingleberry Perry, Flee the Fiorina, Sancta-Santorum, Graham Cracker, and Nervous 7/11 Night Shift Manager Jindal.
And never mind the busted flush Trump Card who should be spray-painted with Rust-Oleum primer, have a squirt gun super-glued to his hand, and kicked through the front door of the Ferguson, Mo., police station.
You think, “I don’t want to vote for these people.”
Just between you and me, we Republicans think the same thing.
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Benefits are the way government is expanded. The more government expansion, the more opportunities for politicians to get power. (Beware of razor blades in the candy apples.)
Democrats offer you regulations to make your life safer from razor blades in candy apples. Regulations expand government with unelected regulatory bodies so that politicians can get power without bothering about your vote.
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Democrats are tough on business. After all, you might get into business. And make money. And vote Republican.
I’m a Christian too. Maybe I’m not a hard-shell Baptist ordained minister dog-in-the-manger-at-Bethlehem Christian like you are. But I think you could use a refresher course in Christianity.
“Whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council,” said our Lord. “Raca” and “council” are Aramaic for “playing the Hitler card” and “New Hampshire primary.”
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You’re nuts, Mike. You were on John McCain’s short list for running mates and he picked Sarah Palin for her comparative sanity.
If you call me some ones sock puppet alt again I'm going to cast a voodoo curse on you. The nigg nogs in ferguson taught me it for being a race traitor mud lover
I'm with J.B. Anyone fucking Matthews up is OK with me. But no, I'm not pulling for Fiorina. I haven't seen anything from any republican as of yet that appeals to me.
By Sunday evening, Portland, Ore., fans of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) had watched their candidate be shamed off a stage by activists who claimed to represent the #BlackLivesMatter movement. There were more rumors, about more protests by people who believed Sanders did not "center black lives" in his presidential campaign. But the 28,000 progressives who'd filled the Moda Center had their nerves calmed by a 25-year-old black woman.
Who are you talking about? That's not me. I think Obama is a Soros sock puppet with narcissistic tendencies. A man with a King complex and wannabe dicktater. He knows he can't overtly take guns away but is trying to make inroads in that direction. He can suck my dick. I live in Tennessee btw and it's not as bad as Ky. But welfare mommies and shit for brains daddies abound here that's for sure.
J.B. its better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. You seem to loathe CxGxPX while doing the same thing. You mischaracterize and stereotype constantly. Just trying to be helpful.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 08/13/1507:15 PM
Originally Posted By: BarneyDaMarksman
You seem to loathe CxGxPX while doing the same thing. You mischaracterize and stereotype constantly.
Indeed? So you calling the Average American "a fucking idiot and a leach" three posts above isn't doing exactly that? Reminds me of something someone said recently. Wait, my bad. That was you as well:
Originally Posted By: BarneyDaMarksman
J.B. its better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
And nobody embodies this principle as well as you did there.
Originally Posted By: BarneyDaMarksman
Just trying to be helpful.
Oh, you have been, gentle goober. You have.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 08/13/1508:39 PM
Originally Posted By: BarneyDaMarksman
I think Obama is a Soros sock puppet with narcissistic tendencies. A man with a King complex and wannabe dicktater. He knows he can't overtly take guns away but is trying to make inroads in that direction. He can suck my dick.
You know, gentle goober, I'm sorry. I should have taken account of your advanced years and not been so harsh and, for that, I apologize. Let me put this in terms with which you can better identify:
There is no amendment in the constitution about manufacturing meth. You're a typical libtard dumbass J.B. [although I think requiring I.D. is pretty fucking stupid for buying sudafed even in small quantities.]
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 08/16/1510:40 AM
Originally Posted By: BarneyDaMarksman
You seem to loathe CxGxPX while doing the same thing. You mischaracterize and stereotype constantly.
Of course. That's why u lub me. That's not a mischaracterization. Your posts pretty much write your description.....We probably agree on more than we disagree in the long run.
That's a nice little dream you have there of having an openly socialist candidate run for President. The only problem is only about 15% of the country is that far to the left and even they probably wouldn't vote for someone who wants to greatly increase their taxes.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 08/18/1506:34 PM
Originally Posted By: Steezo
That's a nice little dream you have there of having an openly socialist candidate run for President. The only problem is only about 15% of the country is that far to the left and even they probably wouldn't vote for someone who wants to greatly increase their taxes.
If I was a billionaire, I'd open a chain of combined strip clubs/restaurants. They would share a building, but they would be separated. The girls would have to waitress as well as dance. That way on the nights they aren't dancing, they can talk their regulars (suckers) into coming in and buying overpriced food. Most likely BBQ.
Getting back on topic, people don't like higher taxes and I doubt Bernie would raise them just for billionaires.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 08/18/1507:02 PM
Originally Posted By: Steezo
I doubt Bernie would raise them just for billionaires.
Then you haven't been listening to anyone but Seaman Shill and the Fox Fudgepackers.
I doubt Bernie would raise them just for billionaires.
If you're raising taxes, you must raise them on the middle class because that's where the money is. The combined wealth (assets, not income!) of all US billionaires is US$2.2 trillion — a little more than half of what the Federal government spends in one year.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 08/19/1504:12 AM
^ Says a man who has not only fled the country to avoid paying any taxes but is actively aiding and abetting others to do the same. That's like the trite teen walking into a liquor store and saying "This is ME!" when the clerk asks for identification.
Says a man who has not only fled the country to avoid paying any taxes but is actively aiding and abetting others to do the same.
Got some news for you, commie: As with so much that you just "know" is true about the 1% and how we're screwing you, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about on this one either. US citizens residing outside the United States pay taxes to the country in which they reside, and then write out a check to the Federal gummint on top of that. And, if like me, you're a member of a California-based partnership, the State of Crazyfornia grabs an additional ~10% of your income just because they want to. I pay close to 40 percent of my income in tax because of that.
If I was a billionaire, I'd open a chain of combined strip clubs/restaurants. They would share a building, but they would be separated. The girls would have to waitress as well as dance. That way on the nights they aren't dancing, they can talk their regulars (suckers) into coming in and buying overpriced food. Most likely BBQ.
Getting back on topic, people don't like higher taxes and I doubt Bernie would raise them just for billionaires.
I'd like to say I like your business plan and would like to invest in such business.
I doubt Bernie would raise them just for billionaires.
If you're raising taxes, you must raise them on the middle class because that's where the money is. The combined wealth (assets, not income!) of all US billionaires is US$2.2 trillion — a little more than half of what the Federal government spends in one year.
actually they way you crush the middle class is remove the home owner mortgage tax deduction. it's an incredible gift in general to the middle class but would start a war
The United States is the only OECD country which taxes its citizens on worldwide income. I work with Brits, Aussies, Germans, Singaporeans and they all laugh it up when I describe how I have to pay taxes to the US on top of the taxes which are sufficient to meet my obligations to the country in which I reside.
I doubt Bernie would raise them just for billionaires.
If you're raising taxes, you must raise them on the middle class because that's where the money is. The combined wealth (assets, not income!) of all US billionaires is US$2.2 trillion — a little more than half of what the Federal government spends in one year.
Why don't you explain why sam brownback had to increase the Kansas sales tax, a regressive tax, to pay for the budget shortfalls from cutting taxes on his rich cronies who got him elected you fucking scumbag. The United States has the lowest corporate tax rate in the first world. Sanders wants a small tax on financial transactions to counter act wall street and Goldman Sachs running roughshot. You know, like they do in most other civilized countries. How about lifting the social security tax cap so some one who makes 30 million a year actually has to pay into it more than some one who makes 240 thousand a year. I hope your're found dead with your own severed penis shoved up your ass and a bank roll stuffed down your throat.
How about lifting the social security tax cap so some one who makes 30 million a year actually has to pay into it more than some one who makes 240 thousand a year.
I don't mind lifting the ceiling on Social Security contributions, but you are aware, aren't you, that the Social Security benefit is tied to the amount of contributions paid?
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The United States has the lowest corporate tax rate in the first world.
I don't know what to say about this. It's so obviously untrue, and so easily confirmed to be untrue, that I wonder if you are even more stupid than you seem to be.
You say you're for lifting the cap huh? Yet you feel the need to put your little spin on it. Not all the millionaires are going to retire st once and most studies agree it would help all beneficiaries. You know, "a rising tide lifts all boats " the capitalist cock sucker catch phrase
You know very well the effective tax rate is in a different universe from the official tax rate. I like how you tried to out lawyer your self there.
But please continue to ignore the sam brownback question or the graph about corporate welfare. Or corporate welfare in general as people like you like to scream about some hood rat on foodstamps with 7 kids but we never hear a peep about subsidies.
I'd rather be stupider than back door man then Have JB think I'm your sock puppet
Corporations are people. Juridical people. That's been settled for over 400 years.
Political contributions are speech, just like lap dancing and stomping on a flag is speech.
Dark money is acceptable because persons have privacy rights recognized in law.
No, money should not be "out of politics" unless we have some consensus that free speech shall be limited. You will need a Constitutional amendment for that.
You claim to be a libertarian. If that where true then why would you support the legal fiction known as a corporation to exist. An entity who's purpose is to shield business owners from liability and harsh market forces . A libertarian wouldn't he in favor of a protectionist law regarding lassiez faire free markets. Libertarians wouldn't be for this kind of picking winners and losers in the market
Congratulations on proving what a vile piece of shit you are with those answers
And you're STILL ducking the sam brownback question. And the corporate welfare one. And the effective tax rate one...........
He'll confiscate the entire assets of every billionaire in America. (Maybe he'll execute them, for good measure!) That will fund the government for eight months.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 09/02/1507:29 PM
^Cheer up, Shill. You'll be raking in the dough once the Iran War kicks into gear. Oh, wait...
He'll confiscate the entire assets of every billionaire in America. (Maybe he'll execute them, for good measure!) That will fund the government for eight months.
Still dodging almost all my questions because you're a worthless fucking cunt?
Hey I like the idea of a bigger paycheck as much as the next guy and I like free shit as much as the next guy but riddle me this. Who the hell is going to pay for all this free shit because it ain't going to be free?
You jack up the minimum wage you make more money. Companies and businesses jack up the prices of their shit because they aren't going to take the hit out of their profits. ( And fucking forget about expecting shareholders to take it out of their dividends either. There's a fucking reason Wal-Mart stock fell about 30% right after they announced they would increase their starting wages.) So just like Patrick Ewing you will be making more money but you will be spending more as well. Groceries will go up because wages to grocery store employees will go up. Gas will go up because wages to convenience store workers wages will go up. Eating out will cost more because restaurant employees will cost more. So on and so on. Same with all the free days off stuff. Someone is paying for that and if it isn't the consumer it will be the taxpayer. (Hint, hint they are one and the same.) You can't just turn one knob up on the economic studio board without fucking up all the levels the other knobs are set at too.
When the super-rich and mega-multinational corporations pay their fair share, we will be able to have decent pay and benefits for the working Joe, like the rest of the developed world.
The rest of the developed world? What do you really know about the rest of the developed world? Wages are shit in most countries. Most of the so-called "free shit" the European countries dispense goes to their professional classes. That "free college" you've heard so much about is rationed — their working class kids get shunted away from a college track quite early. Like eighth grade early. The socialism in Europe is a huge gyp by which their elites bilk the working stiff.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 09/04/1502:30 PM
Originally Posted By: Seaman Shill
What do you really know about the rest of the developed world?
What the fuck do YOU know about anything, Shill? You've spent so many years feeding the Goobers on gloom and doom fantasies you no longer know or care what's actually going on, so long as the Kochs keep funding your bar, pill and brothel bills.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 09/04/1503:25 PM
Originally Posted By: the unknown pervert
I like free shit as much as the next guy
No one's asking for free shit, TUP, despite all the shilling, and fear mongering, and TriteTeenesqe antics going on here. All people want is for the tax dodgers hiding in Malaysian Massage Parlors with Admiral ALEC to quit their bitching and pull their own damn weight.
The rest of the developed world? What do you really know about the rest of the developed world? Wages are shit in most countries. Most of the so-called "free shit" the European countries dispense goes to their professional classes. That "free college" you've heard so much about is rationed — their working class kids get shunted away from a college track quite early. Like eighth grade early. The socialism in Europe is a huge gyp by which their elites bilk the working stiff.
Wrong Vice Admiral. Kids in Canada get university tuition for $5,000 to $7,000 a year. Some of our schools are tops in the world.
..The study confirms previous findings that America’s social mobility is low compared with many European countries. (In Denmark, a poor child has twice as much chance of making it to the top quintile as in America.) But it challenges several smaller recent studies that concluded that America had become less socially mobile...
This statement is utter nonsense: "The amount of taxes that corporations and the top 1% have stolen from the US Treasury by exploiting loopholes, tax havens, and tax cuts." Exploiting loopholes, tax havens, and tax cuts is also known as full compliance with law. It's quite fanciful to complain about full compliance with law by characterizing it as stealing.
This organization, FlipTheDebt.org, reckons its figure as from 2001, when Congress passed the tax cuts proposed by President George W. Bush, History's Greatest Monster.
Okay, then. So The Rich! The Rich! have had their taxes reduced by US$2.8 trillion (I visited the website) since 2001, a period of 15 years, and all of that has become debt. But our national debt is US$18 trillion. The debt was US$5.8 trillion in 2001, and US$10 trillion in 2008. What accounts for the rest of the debt, since the money "stolen" by evil corporations and the 1% when they comply with tax law doesn't even reach a quarter of the debt incurred by the United States during their 15-year crime spree?
... Exploiting loopholes, tax havens, and tax cuts is also known as full compliance with law.
<snip> What accounts for the rest of the debt, since the money "stolen" by evil corporations and the 1% when they comply with tax law doesn't even reach a quarter of the debt incurred by the United States during their 15-year crime spree?
Full compliance with laws made by bought and paid for legislators. This is what we must change!
I don't have figures handy, but the two wars Duh Duh Dubya lost may have contributed to the debt.
I don't have figures handy, but the two wars Duh Duh Dubya lost may have contributed to the debt.
That's about US$1 trillion, which was about 2.5% of total Federal spending during the period that the wars were on, and 8% of the total debt incurred during that period.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 09/05/1505:21 AM
Originally Posted By: charin
Full compliance with laws made by bought and paid for legislators. This is what we must change!
Yep. Laws written by Seaman Shill and his ALEC Acolytes.
Originally Posted By: Charin
I don't have figures handy, but the two wars Duh Duh Dubya lost may have contributed to the debt.
Some $4.4 Trillion's worth, I believe, and climbing. Our grandkids' grandkids are going to be paying this off. Of course that doesn't bother Shill in the least: He and his clients stashed their stolen moolah in Malaysia.
Did you know that from 1935 until 1980, the bottom 90% of wage earners gained 70% of all new income, but from 1980 until 2012 that same 90% received 0%? That's right, Senator Warren said. While for 45 years the top 10% got 30% of new income, in the next 32 years they got it all. 100%.
I wonder why these fuckers can't put two and two together. 1980 demarcs the irrevocable metastasis of the administrative state, the Department of Whatsisfuck and the profusion therefrom of endless regulations and myriad enforcement agencies and tribunals. The number of lawyers in the United States increased by 15% from 1979 to 1980 alone.
I wonder why these fuckers can't put two and two together. 1980 demarcs the irrevocable metastasis of the administrative state, the Department of Whatsisfuck and the profusion therefrom of endless regulations and myriad enforcement agencies and tribunals. The number of lawyers in the United States increased by 15% from 1979 to 1980 alone.
And you're a fucking lawyer!! The for profit prison explosion also happened around the dates you're quoting as well. You really think a profit motive system can regulate its self? You're promoting this simplistic "word of mouth" system the libertarians claim will just take care of its self? Where the only problem is some one else has to suffer first. You are all of the sudden in favor of "tort reform" you, a lawyer. Often times lawsuits are the only way some one can strike back at a huge entity that's fucked them over
Who's poop decks candidate. Trump who doesn't know the difference between the quds and the kurds. It's okay to admit that not everyone pays attention to the minuta, most people don't. Just admit you didn't know
And palin who wants to eliminate the department of energy even though she didn't have any idea what it does
Webb's a disappointment. I thought he would energize the right wing of the democratic party and force Clinton to skew a bit left and eat up some Bernie territory. I am beginning to feel the bern, but I think he might win a seat in the Bundestag as a moderate in the SPD before he makes it to the White House.
That's pretty well-made documentary about Trump but it documents conditions, as you note, 25 years ago. That's a lifetime ago, quite literally.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 09/25/1504:34 AM
Not quite. It documents events that occurred 25 years ago; the conditions remain the same, as does his character.
I think it would be far more appropriate if he wore a leopard on his head instead of that chihuahu he's been sporting the last couple of lifetimes, because he's one guy who will never, ever change his spots.
“The American people are horrified by these never-ending mass shootings. Our hearts go out to the families and friends of the innocent victims. As a nation, we must do everything we can to put an end to this awful epidemic of senseless slaughter. “We need a comprehensive approach. We need sensible gun-control legislation which prevents guns from being used by people who should not have them. We must greatly expand and improve our mental health capabilities so individuals and families can get the psychological help they need when they need it. We also have to tone down the incredibly high level of gratuitous violence which permeates our media. “The shouting at each other must end. The hard work of developing good policy must begin.”
The Republicans are a fucking joke as well. What a mess. And for clarification, it wouldn't really bother me if all gun sales [person to person] required a background check. It would make me feel a lot safer selling a gun to someone I don't know personally. I don't do that at all. Family and friends yes but not strangers.
The Republicans are a fucking joke as well. What a mess. And for clarification, it wouldn't really bother me if all gun sales [person to person] required a background check. It would make me feel a lot safer selling a gun to someone I don't know personally. I don't do that at all. Family and friends yes but not strangers.
Holy shit. Only time I've heard you say something reasonable. Is the sky falling?
I've always felt that way. Maybe just haven't effectively expressed it here. The only worry is when has the government ever gotten an inch without taking a mile? Patriot act as an example.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 10/13/1506:18 PM
Originally Posted By: backdoorman
I've always felt that way. Maybe just haven't effectively expressed it here. The only worry is when has the government ever gotten an inch without taking a mile? Patriot act as an example.
Come the fuck on, BDM: If you've "always" thought that way then why have you never said shit about it until Admiral ALEC gets you riled up about stuff that's never happened?
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 10/13/1507:08 PM
HRC: "I never took a position on Keystone until I took a position on Keystone."
If Hillary could simply debate these fools who are afraid to challenge her, she'd win, but I suspect a harder edge may be coming her way. It's still disheartening to see that the media are all in the tank for Hillary, though. Bernie Sanders definitely is the more sincere candidate.
Which one of the two looks older and crazier? It's a tossup.
I'm surprised at the Mets. I thought the Cardinals or Cubs would have been the NL team in the World Series. Major League Baseball has missed an epic rooting interest in the Cubs story, but I bet they're glad and relieved it's not going to be Cardinals-Royals, or Pirates-Royals.
Ratings-wise, I would think MLB would want Toronto-Mets, since an entire country is rooting for Toronto. Then again, I don't know how MLB revenue works with regard to Canadian ratings. Anyway, the Mets are going into the World Series with a fully rested pitching staff that looks almost unstoppable at this point. It's hard not to pick them to win it.
Other than the "give me free shit", or the jealousy crowd that was never able to take advantage of the trickle down economy, I've never understood how the Bernie crowd actually thinks this is a good thing. And looking through this thread, I've yet to see anyone actually articulate why they support it. Memes and failed history education is all that comes up.
1. This does more to hurt the middle class than any made up tax cut the Left could ever dream of. Min wage jobs are not meant as careers. They are starting points. If you can't afford what you want to have while making min wage, then improve yourself and get better. Raising the wage of low skill and low educated workers (hey, that sounds like Liberal voters) only increases the costs of the goods and service they provide, which in turn takes away from the middle class and sinks them, or causes the wages of the real middle class to go up which puts the min wage right back to where they were.
2. Show me where it says that in the constitution. Just be honest, you want to bribe voters into thinking they'll get something for free, and saddle the middle class with paying for it
3. I'm sorry, but if you want something to have value, it has to have value. You want to know why you need more than High School to get a career? Because HS is free, and anyone can get it. Getting a post secondary school education is what separates the people who want to go after something, from those who don't. But why not ask the real question here; why are students racking up so much debt? Remember before when I told you if you increase the wage of someone (in this case, University staff), you increase the cost? As well, why are people dropping $50,000/year of University if the degree they are working on only makes them qualified for a min wage job? You want a free post secondary school education? Go join the Army or get into the trades. The world doesn't need Art History majors.
4. It already has been addressed. Remember, you keep changing the name of what it is because every single one of your predictions has been proven wrong, and the people who have made the most money peddling the lie are the ones who are the worst offenders
5. I can support that. But somehow I think you're plan is for new and expensive public transportation being contracted out to your unions buddies who have so eagerly donated to your political career, and not the infrastructure that is actually needed
6. So I suppose you are planning on unleashing the DoJ on every case where a minority is the perp and a white person is the victim? Careful there Bernie, if you really wanted to fight for Racial Justice, you're going to have to acknowledge the facts about crime statistics, and your voter base isn't going to be happy with the outcome
7. You know, if people could just follows the laws of the land, you wouldn't need to blame the police for enforcing those laws.
8. No problem. But you've benefitted far more in your political career from big money than Donald Trump ever has
9. Great, you just contradicted yourself. You want others to fund you.
10. It is already a right for all citizens. And with help from the Left, even non-citizens have it too. Are you really saying you are going to ensure only US citizens are going to vote? Careful Bern, you are losing more of your base
11. No problem. Put in a flat tax or eliminate the income tax all together. But you're still going after "corporate welfare" while insisting of education and health care welfare.
12. What do you think is going to happen when you hammer the middle class with a high cost of living, and less money in their pocket?
13. They already have that right. The problem is Bern, unions are no longer needed and are costing people their jobs. Will you support a workers right to not unionize?
14. If you have skill, education and have succeeded in life and have earned yourself employment, you will already have that. Oh wait, you're pandering to the Jon Gruber crowd again
15. See above
16. See above again
17. Oh dear God. You are still on this failed talking point? Bernie, it's been debunked already.
18. The path to citizenship needs to be followed and enforced. No need to change. Unless you want to get more low skill, low education people into the country as your new voters
19. Really?!?!? Really Bernie. I guess you know the MSM won't remind people your roll with the VA. Hope not, because if they ever switched the channel to a different network, they'd see how hard you worked to support the veterans.
He might win the Nuthouse Miss Congeniality Award otherwise known as the Democratic Party presidential nomination but there is no way Sanders is getting elected after declaring that global warming is causing terrorism.
In other news thank you Ohio for keeping John Kerry out of the White House. As bad as Obama is on terrorism Kerry is making an extremely good argument that he would have been even worse if he had made it to the White House. He makes Hillary look like she knows what she is doing by comparison.
I know I'll regret coming back to this shithole but this overlord prick needs he's fucking face caved in. You know the truth about minimum wage is that it is the only viable option for tens of millions of desperate people who will never have the chance or ability to "improve themselves" theres only a finite amount of good jobs. In the meantime people like you (and I use the term person lightly) would love to see a race to the bottom where people bid for $2 an hour jobs as the libertarians throw scraps at the plebes while calling it "Freedom" everything is for the benefit of the super rich. Did you hear how Koch industries have their own private CIA now? We have defacto debters prison in this country for people who cant pay parking tickets. Selling the parking meter contracts to private companies. Trafic fines and the like have always been a regressive tax any ways. Let's criminalize being poor some more. You're so against illegal immigrants yet you don't talk about how it's a direct symptom of capitalism where an employer will pay someone slave wages if they can get away with it. How about this, every time a business is caught hiring an illegal alien we deport the fucking CEO of the company. That would be just punishment. Pieces of shit like you deserve to have you house annexed and given to a Syrian refugee. You should be tortured to death at gitmo and your carcass rendered down into vivoleum candles.
Really, the threats of violence don't work when you are a limp dick dweeb who hides under the bed during a thunder storm.
The best part is how you fail to understand the basic concept of economics, and ignore the simple fact that raising the wage of unskilled and inexperienced workers will do nothing to improve their position in life, while only making it harder for the middle class. Why can't you offer some insight to your reasoning instead of going back to the failed and debunked talking points? But just as I think you can't prove your stupidity any more than you already have after dropping the Koch brothers (you might want to look into what George Soros funds and controls), you drop the "it's the fault of capitalism for low wages" line. No idiot, the fault of low wages is at the feet of the millions of unskilled uneducated workers who snuck in here illegally. Get rid of them, and companies won't have the option to hire them. See how simple that is? Just address the problem.
You are the typical Liberal idiot. You blame the laws that get people in trouble, instead of blaming the people who willfully choose not to obey them. Stop committing crime, and you'll stop being arrested.
Furthermore, I deserve what I've worked for and earned. But your ilk don't want to work for anything, nor do they want to earn it. You'd rather just take from someone else because you failed and you don't think that's fair. Just keep taking from others. But what happens when you've taken everything? Then what?
People like me is what made our society great. People like you are bringing it down. And since you have nothing, and are nothing, you've turned into an angry pathetic piece of shit who spends his nights alone.
I put myself through school twice, worked my ass off, and paid into the system for years. I don't demand something for nothing, so fuck you, I also deserve what I've worked for and earned.
You are a real head in the sand dumbass if you think trickle down helps any but the rich. Reaganomics has almost ruined this country.
I'd rather live in a decent society than try to grab all the money I can.
I've forever wondered why asshat conservatives go ape shit if others who need it get help. Selfish assholes.
But tax breaks/evasion for the rich? Whenever Wall $treet tells Congress ...
LMAO! The Labor Movement and a thriving middle class made this country great. At least for the 99%. People who actually produce goods and services getting what they earn, so they can buy those goods and services.
I'm a job creator. GMC, Winnebago, etc. because I bought their products.
Nice try, but as with most liberal arguments, your simplistic theory proves itself to be complete bullshit. The minimum wage for younger workers in Australia is actually around $8/hr so McD's simply relies on them to make up for the higher overall minimum wage. And in France, they've fired all of their order takers and replaced them with automated ordering machines.
It sounds nice and heartwarming to give everyone earning the minimum wage an increase in salary, but the fact is all you're going to do is temporarily upset the apple cart until the free market adjusts to the increase.
Well that certainly didn't work with Obama's economic recovery stimulus package. But I love the constant explanation for failed liberal ideas: we just didn't go far enough! No matter what, they never admit their ideas don't work, they just aren't currently working because they haven't been able to fully implement them.
Meh, it's just a difference in philosophy. You think the government can solve all of our problems whereas I think the government generally takes a bad situation and makes it worse.
Really, the threats of violence don't work when you are a limp dick dweeb who hides under the bed during a thunder storm.
The best part is how you fail to understand the basic concept of economics, and ignore the simple fact that raising the wage of unskilled and inexperienced workers will do nothing to improve their position in life, while only making it harder for the middle class. Why can't you offer some insight to your reasoning instead of going back to the failed and debunked talking points? But just as I think you can't prove your stupidity any more than you already have after dropping the Koch brothers (you might want to look into what George Soros funds and controls), you drop the "it's the fault of capitalism for low wages" line. No idiot, the fault of low wages is at the feet of the millions of unskilled uneducated workers who snuck in here illegally. Get rid of them, and companies won't have the option to hire them. See how simple that is? Just address the problem.
You are the typical Liberal idiot. You blame the laws that get people in trouble, instead of blaming the people who willfully choose not to obey them. Stop committing crime, and you'll stop being arrested.
Furthermore, I deserve what I've worked for and earned. But your ilk don't want to work for anything, nor do they want to earn it. You'd rather just take from someone else because you failed and you don't think that's fair. Just keep taking from others. But what happens when you've taken everything? Then what?
People like me is what made our society great. People like you are bringing it down. And since you have nothing, and are nothing, you've turned into an angry pathetic piece of shit who spends his nights alone.
Eat a dick faggot
Nobody threatened you with violence idiot. I said it's what you deserve. Nice reading comprehension there. If hard work made you rich then migrant farm workers would be billionaires. Again, punish the business that hire illegals but you completely ignore that idea. Most jobs done by illegals are shit white people wouldn't do. They actually deported all of them from one state and the crops rotted in the ground. They had to let them back why don't you support freemarkets to pay as little as possible? Fucking piece of shut hypocrite. Violence is the bolt thing people like you understand
I believe it will stimulate the economy when people have money to spend.
Except they won't have any more money to spend. Technically they will have more money but the stuff they spend it on is going to increase in price so they won't be spending it on anything they aren't already spending it on.
You raise the minimum wage of the guy sacking your groceries at the local grocery store (assuming it hasn't gone to primarily self check out lanes to lower the cost of labor already). That increases the labor costs the grocery store is paying. So in turn the grocery store raises the price of the food it sells and that extra money from the wage raise goes back into buying the same food that now costs more. Unless of course the grocery store decides to cut the hours of their workers, cut the benefits of the workers or just cut the number of employees it has working in the store instead. This applies to just about any business or industry. (excluding government)
The left acts like the economy is some kind of reservoir that can be controlled by raising or lowering the outflow. It's not. It's more like a natural wetlands that gathers water that drains into it when it rains and lets water evaporate when it doesn't.
Your bullshit might make a little more sense if wages have even remotely kept pace with inflation. It's the similar arguments you pieces of shut make with taxes. Yet in more socialized countries where business have to pay much higher taxes they don't magically go broke. People like you would be saying the same fucking thing if bread was fifty dollars a loaf and a grocery bagger made $2 an hour. You want to suck the masters dick with the hope of one day becoming the master yourselves. Companies like Walmart help their employes get on welfare. They know their slave wages can't support a person. It's a way die billion dollar corporations to shift the tax burden onto the poor.
Funny you mention wages needing to be low to keep the cost of food down. That's why migrant farm workers make so little. But you want to demonizes Mexicans. Pay a white person minimum wages and your lettuce will be $200 a head.
Abolish regressive taxes like sales tax. Abolish police shakedowns to steal tax burden from the most defenseless people.
People like you talk about freemarkets when one person is a million miles ahead In the race in a limo and the other person is walking five miles in the other direction to get clean drinking water
You could probably replace Hillary with "people who actually watched the debate" and replace Sanders with "people who had something better to do last night" and get the same percentages.
The corporate whore media loves the trump side show. Trump is number one republican in the polls. Bernie is the number two democrat yet trump gets about seventeen times the coverage.
Fuck bernie sanders and fuck fake socialists. There will never be a real communist revolution when the politician works within the system.. the system must be destroyed. capitalism must be destroyed. compromise with capitalism is a compromise between food and poison. destroy the capitalist state. form a new true socialist state. and prosper.
Fuck you. You think wallstreet speculation is "work" you fucking piece of shit. You are not even remotely human. You think manipulating a system designed to serve the capitalist is actual work??? I hope you die a slow miserable death in front of your family.
Fuck bernie sanders and fuck fake socialists. There will never be a real communist revolution when the politician works within the system.. the system must be destroyed. capitalism must be destroyed. compromise with capitalism is a compromise between food and poison. destroy the capitalist state. form a new true socialist state. and prosper.
Every so often you post something that makes me understand where J.B. gets his XPT conspiracy theories from.
"Man, fuck those fake Muslims who think they can live by man's law instead of the holy sharia given to us by Allah, and who live among the kuffar. Mohammed (PBUH) told us not to abide the Jew and the dirty kuffar. There is no god but Allah, and Mohammed is his Prophet. The only way to peace is through jihad. Death to America."
We'll kill you, too, CxGxPx, if you force us to.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 01/21/1610:21 PM
Originally Posted By: CxGxPx
Fuck bernie sanders and fuck fake socialists. There will never be a real communist revolution when the politician works within the system.. the system must be destroyed. capitalism must be destroyed. compromise with capitalism is a compromise between food and poison. destroy the capitalist state. form a new true socialist state. and prosper.
Originally Posted By: the unknown pervert
Every so often you post something that makes me understand where J.B. gets his XPT conspiracy theories from.
Originally Posted By: Seaman Shill, not bothering to read ahead
What I find the most interesting is, while Bernie should be an afterthought for the party, and Hilary is having to expend real energy defending herself. This was supposed to be her coronation lap, and I am sure there are some concerns that this may be a sign of something deeper.
"Man, fuck those fake Muslims who think they can live by man's law instead of the holy sharia given to us by Allah, and who live among the kuffar. Mohammed (PBUH) told us not to abide the Jew and the dirty kuffar. There is no god but Allah, and Mohammed is his Prophet. The only way to peace is through jihad. Death to America."
We'll kill you, too, CxGxPx, if you force us to.
What the fuck are you blabbering about retard? What actual staticall percentage of muslims are terrorists? What are the chances of you actually dying in a terrorist attack ( a Muslim terrorist attack)?? Do you even fucking know? It's about the same as being bitten by a shark while dying of a bee sting and being struck by lightening. Come on you know this. You're supposedly smarter than this. You are much more likely to be killed by a Christian militia nut type or crazed anti aborion protestor. Why don't you go back to commiting more sex crimes in the Philippines/Thailand or any country where the age of consent is in utero.
I know this is going to come as a surprise to everyone here but apparently, according to Secret Service agents, Hillary is a demon bitch from hell to work with.
Iowa is 92% white. Despite this, the campaign clearly made efforts to put many minorities in the video. Each one of these points in the video represent either a group of minorities or an individual minority in close with Sanders.
18 seconds 21 seconds 31 seconds 32 seconds 33-36 seconds (many many many) 37-39 seconds (crowd shots showing lots of people, including minorities) 40 seconds 41 seconds 43 seconds 44 seconds 46 seconds 52 seconds (crowd shots showing lots of people, including minorities) 57 seconds (minorities on stage)
Nobody gives a shit about your posts anymore dude. It's easy to find an equal number of sites that refute every one of those. Only one of many.
Yeah a professor from some obscure community or for profit college has more accurate information than FBI statistics. But I love how all of the sudden you care about sources
Are you really this fucking stupid or just willfully ignorant? Let's play your little game another way. Let's ask the question of how often and how dangerous the "Muslim threat" is compared to how often its portrayed in the media. Even the sacred temple for libertarian free market fuck holes is adult enough to admit when something is a sticking pile of horse shit http://www.cato.org/blog/terrorism-hysteria-watch I know you're an extremely old, pig headed, sack of garbage but for a fraction of a second try to use those rusted grinding gears in your osteoporosis inflicted skull
I know you're an extremely old, pig headed, sack of garbage but for a fraction of a second try to use those rusted grinding gears in your osteoporosis inflicted skull
Well, as long as you stick to the issue and don't make it personal.
I know you're an extremely old, pig headed, sack of garbage but for a fraction of a second try to use those rusted grinding gears in your osteoporosis inflicted skull
Well, as long as you stick to the issue and don't make it personal.
Lol, you mean like the other 30 times this depends diaper wearing lump flung insults before me? Or you mean like the rest of you cry baby faggots do?
I know you're an extremely old, pig headed, sack of garbage but for a fraction of a second try to use those rusted grinding gears in your osteoporosis inflicted skull
Well, as long as you stick to the issue and don't make it personal.
Lol, you mean like the other 30 times this depends diaper wearing lump flung insults before me? Or you mean like the rest of you cry baby faggots do?
I can't really remember him ever insulting you. Keep in mind that your idea of an insult is him calling you a Wall Street one percenter or a Reagan Democrat.
Given Hillary's answer there it would be easy to support Bernie Sanders. It would also be just as easy to support Barry Sanders, Colonel Sanders, Reggie Sanders, or Lori Sanders.
Love him or hate him, Sanders can't win. The number of Democratic Superdelegates - unelected party officials - means that he'd have to accumulate 20% more convention votes than Hillary just to be even.
I'm assuming he means Deborah Wasserman-Schultz, national head of the Democratic Party, or in plain English the person most likely to have their face broken any time Hillary Clinton sits down.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 02/03/1607:13 PM
I'm telling yez, the "Wasserman" part refers to a congenital condition.
I don't like Clinton at all. Fuck that cunt. I like Sanders position on police reform but I hate the sound of his fucking voice and he looks like if he won the shock would kill him before he ever got sworn in.
If Sanders were to win, his young followers would forget to buttress him in the next midterm elections and the Repubs would end up picking him clean. He'd be a one term wonder with nothing to show, unless he decided to disband Congress and machine gun five of the nine sitting members of SCOTUS, and I don't think Bernie would have the dictatorial and authoritarian sac to try that. He's just not that into Fuhrerprinzip.
Sanders wants none of your vote. You delight in throatfucking pornography in which women are degraded, humiliated, and fucked in their throats. It repulses him and is counter to the values his campaign is about.
donny Trump is as a big an asshole as you could have running I suppose. I've never liked him. Having said that he might make a good president in todays fucked up world. Sanders is a fucking loon. He needs to come to Appalachia and see what Obamas policies on coal have done to whitey down here. Who ever gets the GOP nom is who I'm voting for unless the assholes put in an establishment toadie like Romney or Ryan. I'm looking for real change as long as it's not socialism.
Does it with donny Duck and donny Fagan too. Surely there is a way to do the coding so that it only changes when jackass's last name is posted after the donny part. It can't be on the level of atom splitting complicatedness.
Bernard took Michigan. Of all the leftwing publications inly The Nation isn't trying to tear Sanders down. The rest are using words like "overperforming" to describe this win and the momentum it represents. I pray to the good lord above that this fine politician triumphs over the Clinton machinery. Go forth, Bernard without flagging or failing.
If Bernie doesn't get the nomination, there are going to be a lot of young, disillusioned voters who stay home in November rather than vote for Hillary. It'll also be interesting to see what finally happens with the FBI investigation of her email server.
If it comes to that, I assume that Bernard will throw in big on Hillary support. I hesitate to talk about it, but I don't think a significant amount of his base will stay home and pout.
If Bernie doesn't get the nomination, there are going to be a lot of young, disillusioned voters who stay home in November rather than vote for Hillary. It'll also be interesting to see what finally happens with the FBI investigation of her email server.
I can't remember where I saw it but some poll claimed that 33% of Sanders supporters would not vote for Hillary if she wins the nomination. Of course MSNBClinton and the Clinton News Network are too busy bringing up polls of how many Republicans would not vote for Trump to mention this.
Interesting position that the social justice warriors and the mainstream media are put in tonight. Do you believe donny Trump or do you believe the Chicago Police Department?
Of course Bernie is losing with the media onslaught against him. I think it was the Washington post (which ever one is headed by the crazy asshole that owns Amazon, Bezos) ran 16 anti sanders stories in one day. Chris Mathews sucking on Hilary's engorged mega clit. Trumps circus getting something like 20 times the coverage of sanders campaign. May you all suck the arsehole of Martin Shkreli in libertarian hell.
All the candidates suck. I just want Trump on the ballot for the shit storm it will create. If he get elected then even better. Its amazing that donny Trump is the lesser of all evils in this shit. I switched my voter registration from Libertarian to Republican so I can vote for Trump in the primary here.
If Trump can actually get on the ballot he's got a pretty good chance because Obama has alienated a significant portion of Independents, Libertarians, Undecided and previously Non-voters for the Dems. Hillary has fucked herself out of the majority of white male voters and a small percentage of minority males. About 30% of the Bernie Babies won't vote for Hillary if you believe the polls. The "Silent Majority" will be a bigger factor than has been for a very long time and a lot of people are sick of the liberal politically correct bull shit. They have just gone entirely too far left. Most Republican politicians are out of touch and too far to the right. I've heard a lot of people claim to have registered to vote for the first time ever or for many years. Its going to be interesting if the GOP doesn't cut off its own nose to spite Trump.
I hate this fucking country. I hope trump gets elected and starts world war three. Nuke America! Murder it's populace!! dissolve our carcasses in nitric acid to make fertilizer. May Mother Earth reclaim the carbon molecules of American humanity.
This, from the guy who wants all cops dead because he once got a ticket.
The selective myopia of these kinds of people is astounding. Fiend2 is fine with what ever kind of libertarian freak show that will legalize weed, even if at the same time he makes it okay for 8 year olds to work in factories for $2 a day. But you still think I'm just a sock puppet.
Don't you believe libertarians can be for the former and solidly against the latter?
By definition a libertarian would be against any laws that tells employers how much they can pay workers. Or what kind of working conditions. If we're talking about what the legal definition of a child is and what kind of work they can do then we are in a more murky area. There's a subset of libertarians that use the definition of consent to say they should be able to have sex with a six year old. What I do know however is I've seen lots of libertarian videos and essays that make the argument that child sweet shop labor is the best work the families in that part of the world can get and it is actual us that's immoral for being against the sweatshop. So yes, I very much believe libertarians in this country are in favor of child factory work.
You are an odious piece of shit. I hope you are sent to federal prison for a pot bust and have to spend it sucking Chris Christies ass, Rupert murdocks balls and the only food is the (soon to be) rotting corpse of rob ford.
You are an odious piece of shit. I hope you are sent to federal prison for a pot bust and have to spend it sucking Chris Christies ass, Rupert murdocks balls and the only food is the (soon to be) rotting corpse of rob ford.
It is quite surprising that a message board such as this has such elevated political discourse.
Weird. I just read that quote the other day in an article about the War on Drugs in Harper's. Apparently Ehrlichman has really let himself go and looks like a rolypoly mountain man now at the time he made this admission.
^exactly. By the way, we now have an artist's depiction of the time you tried and failed to troll Panzer on his home turf, but got caught up in your own delusions:
Well, no one on XPT is as dumb as you...except maybe Donkey when he panhandles enough change to get his meth pipe good and full.
Really? When someone posts a picture that says "the goal of socialism is communism" like its some astounding thing. Yeah and wet cunts lead to spurting cocks. Like, that's the fucking point.
Do you honestly think Bernie can beat Hillary for the nomination? Even when he wins 70% of the vote, he winds up only getting a few more delegates than Clinton, thanks to the super delegates.
I'm to the point where I don't give a fuck. What a fucking dog and pony show this shit is. We're fucked no matter who wins the presidency and it will be four more years of total fucking incompetence and idiocy.
Congratulations Bernie just won Washington and the Democratic primary versions of Baltic and Mediterranean Avenues. This is like a Republican candidate bragging about winning Wyoming.
^ Of course she swung a punch first, but her story was that someone groped her breast before that, so the media is gonna run with that angle and play up her being pepper-sprayed in the face. I'd be surprised if any of the liberal media news outlets even mention her throwing a punch at all. It's a pretty cut and dry formula at this point: Go to a Trump rally, cause trouble, call the other side racists or misogynists afterwards, then let the media blame it all on Trump.
Groper's going to get fucked - "A male in the crowd groped the 15-year-girl; when she pushed him away, another person in the [crowd] sprayed her," the police department said in a statement obtained by the outlet. "We are currently looking for two suspects, one for the sexual assault and one for the pepper spray."
At this point, unless there's full video of an event like this in its entirety, I don't believe a single thing anyone on either side says. I fully believe an anti-Trump protester would make up a groping charge just to try to make Trump and his supporters look bad. I also believe some of the Trump supporters might get a bit overzealous and do something wrong as well.
But, without full video, everything is inconclusive. From the video clip I saw, the girl claimed an older guy groped her, the older guy denied it so she tried to punch him and got pepper sprayed. The only crime on the video was her throwing a punch.
She's actually 19 and there are several videos now showing the incident from different angles. One you can hear her say she deserved it as she was walking away.
Well as long as most of the media covers this story and others like it with an anti-Trump angle, you can expect this type of shit to happen pretty much every day from here on out. The security footage of Trump's campaign manager "battering" a female reporter looks to me like the guy brushed her to the side and walked past her.
She's actually 19 and there are several videos now showing the incident from different angles. One you can hear her say she deserved it as she was walking away.
She did say she deserved it, but the media will cover what the Trump supporter said right after that as she was walking away: "You communist nagger-lover! Get out of here!"
Like I said, the media is saying she was sexually assaulted, pepper sprayed and called a nagger-lover. And, even though she probably is 19, they're saying she's 15 anyway because it makes for a better anti-Trump story.
In a statement, the police department said: "A 15 year [old] girl from Janesville was peppered sprayed in the crowd by a non-law enforcement person... A male in the (crowd) groped the 15 year [old] girl, when she pushed him away; another person in the (crowd) sprayed her. We are currently looking for two suspects, one for the sexual assault and one for the pepper spray."
A 19-year-old woman from Madison, Wisconsin also received second-hand spray the police said
In a statement, the police department said: "A 15 year [old] girl from Janesville was peppered sprayed in the crowd by a non-law enforcement person... A male in the (crowd) groped the 15 year [old] girl, when she pushed him away; another person in the (crowd) sprayed her. We are currently looking for two suspects, one for the sexual assault and one for the pepper spray."
A 19-year-old woman from Madison, Wisconsin also received second-hand spray the police said
Again, unless it's all on video, I don't believe a fucking word of anything negative said about Trump or his staff or supporters. One very important word missing from the supposed quote from the police about the groping incident is the word "allegedly."
I just watched the video. So the guy who pepper sprayed appears to be some random asshole that had nothing to do with the argument and then he ran away like a cretin afterwards. Makes the whole thing even funnier.
Just to show how fucking biased the media is about this stuff, this CNN story about the incident completely disregards the fact that this anti-Trump agitator punched an old man in the face and then outright lies and says she only, "pushed him away," even though the incident is all caught on video.
My assumption of what really happened is that this girl is 19 years old, she went to the Trump rally to cause problems, lied about being groped, punched someone in the face for no reason and then got pepper sprayed by someone who was defending the Trump supporters against a woman who was assaulting people.
You keep saying she's 19. Is there a source for this? If there is a source is it something that isn't a right wing blog? If you had tits and they were handled with out permission how would you react? Or if it was your wife or girlfriend? Would you have the upmost decorum? but for some reason you and the rest of the cock sucking turds keep insisting she wasn't groped. Cause you know, "liberal bias" or something. How would you maggots react if it was a niqqer or a towel head doing the pepper spraying? You cunts are so fucking myopic it's unreal.
The original story was that she was 19, then later it changed to 15. I'm assuming it changed to 15 because that makes for a better anti-Trump story for the liberal media. As for anyone handling her tits, like I said, unless there's video of it, it didn't happen as far as I'm concerned. Just like that reporter who said she was practically thrown to the ground by Trump's campaign manager. Never happened, the guy just simply pushed her to the side as he walked past her. But it sounds better to say she was battered by Trump's campaign manager, so that's what the liberal media is reporting, even though they know all of it is a lie.
The media absolutely adores the ratings they get from the trump circus. You don't seem to understand anything about the way television works. There's over 100 times the coverage for trump than there is sanders. You honestly think the way the media has been sucking trumps cock to not lose access to their recent cash cow shows a "bias"? shut the fuck up. Michelle fields is a slimy cunt and her vs trump is poetic justice for being employed by sleazy sewer like Brietbart. But I do believe she was yanked pretty hard and his campaign goon has roughed up people worse. He shouldn't be touching anybody but it's now ironic that you'd say he has "the right to defend trump" from percieved physical threats but automaticly discounts a girl saying on film her tits were grabbed which in your logic would probably constitute her use of force in response. But you want to have your cake and eat it too because you are a cunt.
I don't doubt that the media loves the ratings they get from Trump, but I do believe the media loathes all Republicans and will do anything they can to keep Trump or Cruz or any other Republican from being elected President. Basically every 4 years they bring out the same game plan and paint the Republican nominee as a racist, sexist bigot who hates old people and poor people.
The only problem is, it isn't working this time. The more bad shit they say about Trump, the more the support for his candidacy grows. I'm not even a Trump supporter, but I do enjoy seeing that calling him a racist or sexist or whatever isn't doing any damage to his campaign. People are just simply sick of the liberal media and its bullshit.
Changing the subject to porn for a moment... I really like the chick in your animated avatar.
There are articles that state both ages. Its a cluster fuck at this point. The old guy did touch her with a bundle of papers in his hand but not with his actual hands and he didn't grope her from the several different videos I saw from various angles. The crowd was moving so either one of them could have been pushed towards the other. She did throw a punch when the guy turned away from her. A bystander moved in and immediately maced her. Someone in the crowd did call her a nagger loving commie. After she was maced as she was leaving she states she deserved it.
Like the avatar? It's Carlotta champagne, the soft core legend. She used to post on a death metal message board eons ago and is married to a guy from said board
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if it turns out to be a Democrat wearing a Trump hat who went there to cause trouble.
You think the other side wouldn't do something like this? He'd still be a fucking faggot incel with a 2 inch penis
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 04/01/1606:30 PM
Originally Posted By: Steezo
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if it turns out to be a Democrat wearing a Trump hat who went there to cause trouble.
Originally Posted By: CxGxPx
You think the other side wouldn't do something like this? He'd still be a fucking faggot incel with a 2 inch penis
Says Admiral ALEC, wearing a Hammer & Sickle, using the license plate account to cause trouble.
Anyway, what that twat actually looks like is some Panzer cousin who was maybe a few hundred klicks further from Chernobyl and, accordingly, looks less abnormal than Alex.
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if it turns out to be a Democrat wearing a Trump hat who went there to cause trouble.
Originally Posted By: CxGxPx
You think the other side wouldn't do something like this? He'd still be a fucking faggot incel with a 2 inch penis
Says Admiral ALEC, wearing a Hammer & Sickle, using the license plate account to cause trouble.
Anyway, what that twat actually looks like is some Panzer cousin who was maybe a few hundred klicks further from Chernobyl and, accordingly, looks less abnormal than Alex.
Getting real sick of you calling me a sock puppet. It's because you are too much of a fucking coward to shout down the 90% right wing fuck hole population here. Even though they scream and act openly like the scum they are. You are an apologist for their vitriol.
You're a stupid fucking turd that thinks libertarians are going to legalize marijuana. A top worker for Nixon just admitted the war on drugs was to put hippies and jigaboos in prison. You deserve to be raped in the ass by a jailhouse bull spade for the rest of your fucking life
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 04/10/1607:00 AM
Originally Posted By: LicensePlate
You're a stupid fucking turd that thinks libertarians are going to legalize marijuana.
Stop trying to disguise your horseshit with an initial nugget of truth.
Originally Posted By: LicensePlate
A top worker for Nixon just admitted the war on drugs was to put hippies and jigaboos in prison.
A "top worker"??? It was John Fucking Ehrlichman, fer chrissakes. That's like saying Stalin's great purge was carried out by his "administrative assistant" Lavrentiy Beria, who coincidently suffered a 9mm brain hemorrhage shortly after his master's demise.
Originally Posted By: LicensePlate
You deserve to be raped in the ass by a jailhouse bull spade for the rest of your fucking life
Now, now. Don't go projecting your drunken fantasies on Fiend there, Admiral ALEC. He's still traumatized after seeing his broad banging "the fuzz".
I don't mind the ALEC slur, but good Christ I'm sick of you continuously intimating that that Mr. Myxzptlk is somehow my alter-ego. That guy's an idiot.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 04/10/1606:06 PM
Well, if he's not your personal troll he's somebody's idea of the political Tritone. No self-respecting (or, rather, self-loathing) College Commie would vent such spleen defending Hillary Clinton. If the idiot (and that's exactly how he plays it) actually was a commie, he'd not only be attacking ol' $hillz, he'd think Bernie was a reactionary tool. His account is there solely to there to rile up the goobers.
Anyway, assuming I'm wrong and he actually is a commie, he's gotta be far more wounded by me calling him your alt than you are, and that only serves your interest. You're welcome for the free stuff.
Well, if he's not your personal troll he's somebody's idea of the political Tritone. No self-respecting (or, rather, self-loathing) College Commie would vent such spleen defending Hillary Clinton. If the idiot (and that's exactly how he plays it) actually was a commie, he'd not only be attacking ol' $hillz, he'd think Bernie was a reactionary tool. His account is there solely to there to rile up the goobers.
Anyway, assuming I'm wrong and he actually is a commie, he's gotta be far more wounded by me calling him your alt than you are, and that only serves your interest. You're welcome for the free stuff.
When have I ever defended Hilary? And sanders IS reactionary(if you're looking at it from a pure communist perspective) He's just part of the same capitalist shit system. Just shuffling around the tax dollars. But since I have to live within this system, I'd like to at least reap some of the rewards for making my masters rich. A true commie would probably say vote for trump because it would further degrade the United States. I don't know if I would be able to truly call my self a communist but I totally despise the imperialist capitalist system. Tin foil fat types fear "the one world government" but the reality is its the one world corporation.
Well, if he's not your personal troll he's somebody's idea of the political Tritone. No self-respecting (or, rather, self-loathing) College Commie would vent such spleen defending Hillary Clinton. If the idiot (and that's exactly how he plays it) actually was a commie, he'd not only be attacking ol' $hillz, he'd think Bernie was a reactionary tool. His account is there solely to there to rile up the goobers.
Anyway, assuming I'm wrong and he actually is a commie, he's gotta be far more wounded by me calling him your alt than you are, and that only serves your interest. You're welcome for the free stuff.
That's some N-dimensional chess shit right there. All I know is the idea that Mr. Mxyzptlk is my alt puts a burr in my saddle. He's scarcely literate!
Well, if he's not your personal troll he's somebody's idea of the political Tritone. No self-respecting (or, rather, self-loathing) College Commie would vent such spleen defending Hillary Clinton. If the idiot (and that's exactly how he plays it) actually was a commie, he'd not only be attacking ol' $hillz, he'd think Bernie was a reactionary tool. His account is there solely to there to rile up the goobers.
Anyway, assuming I'm wrong and he actually is a commie, he's gotta be far more wounded by me calling him your alt than you are, and that only serves your interest. You're welcome for the free stuff.
That's some N-dimensional chess shit right there. All I know is the idea that Mr. Mxyzptlk is my alt puts a burr in my saddle. He's scarcely literate!
We can debate on any issue you like any time. After all I'm a drooling retard and you're the rich lawyer than can afford endless child sex tours, it should be easy.
Let's see how intellectually dishonest you can be. Like when you were taking about the United States having one of the highest corporate tax rates (which is technically true) yet it has one of the lowest effective tax corporate tax rates.
I agree, but don't blame me. You should have wrote him better lines.
Jesus Christ you're a fucking idiot. I say in the very thread she's loathsome. Pointing out how "email gate" is some republican masturbation fantasy like Benghazi isn't defending her you fucking tool. Reading comprehension, how does it work? And you want to call me illiterate?
You are saying you have not read or taken notice of anything Donny/Heather related over the past few months? That speaks volumes about you and your posting here.
You are saying you have not read or taken notice of anything Donny/Heather related over the past few months? That speaks volumes about you and your posting here.
I don't post here for month at a time. Not sure that "speaks volumes about" my posting. Heather deep is actually Donkey Long (we still call him Donkey right?) Or is allegedly her, cool, who gives a shit.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 04/12/1604:20 AM
Originally Posted By: faceblaster
^This from the guy who asked who Heather Dump is and why we hate on him? Yeah, reading comprehension.
Originally Posted By: CxGxPx
Sorry I haven't combed every inch of the forum eight hours a day for ten years
It wouldn't take Darrah eight to ten seconds to suss out the substance of Doony and Heather. Time to put this fake account to sleep.
I actually kind of agree with this. I have a hard time considering superdelegates to be people too.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Bernie! - 04/17/1608:27 AM
Originally Posted By: the unknown pervert
I actually kind of agree with this. I have a hard time considering superdelegates to be people too.
The beautiful thing is that superdelagates don't even get to vote unless no candidate has a majority. Her (and Bezos' and Sulzberger's) repeated hype to the contrary notwithstanding.
Either way, it's a couple of hundred PLEDGED delegates that separates 'em and I DO believe that number will be academic by the time of the convention, at which time, I'll send some face moisturizing cream to poor Debbie (Failed) Wasserman Schulz, who will surely need it.
Why does rear shit lick talk about communism like its a bad thing?
China, U.S.S.R., East Germany, Cuba, North Korea, every shithead dictator in every shithole country that has ever tried communism in Africa, South, and Central America.
It is a system that has had a 100% failure rate every time any country, anywhere in the world has tried to use it. It stifles innovation and advancements in science and technology (no communist country anywhere on earth has ever produced an automobile that did not run like a pig on stilts or a television with a better picture than an etch-a-sketch). It provides no incentives for inventing things or improving on inventions. Political corruption is every bit as bad and common as in the most capitalistic societies. To top it off it is non-compatible with the concept of personal freedom and liberty.
If it is such a fantastic idea why have all the most modern and educated societies who have tried it in the last century moved on to some other kind of economic philosophy?
Venezuela's economy shrank 5.7% last year and it's projected to contract another 8% this year. Inflation in Venezuela is estimated to rise nearly 500%, according to the IMF's latest projections. Its currency, the bolivar, is worth less than a U.S. penny on the black market, where most Venezuelans exchange dollars for pesos.
Venezuela's economy shrank 5.7% last year and it's projected to contract another 8% this year. Inflation in Venezuela is estimated to rise nearly 500%, according to the IMF's latest projections. Its currency, the bolivar, is worth less than a U.S. penny on the black market, where most Venezuelans exchange dollars for pesos.
Bernie, you look like a million bucks, or to put in terms you will understand, you look like 37,000 donations of $27 each. A lot of folks have been surprised by the Bernie phenomenon, especially his appeal to young people, but not me. I get it. Just recently a young person came up to me and said she was sick of politicians standing in the way of her dreams. As if we were actually going to let Malia go to Bernie man this year."
Obama has excellent joke writers, but more importantly he canvstring them into a seamless performance as his own material. This isn't damning with faint praise either because I can't think of another politician who is able to do this, past or present. Legitimate laughs, not just polite and respectful ones.
Obama has excellent joke writers, but more importantly he canvstring them into a seamless performance as his own material. This isn't damning with faint praise either because I can't think of another politician who is able to do this, past or present. Legitimate laughs, not just polite and respectful ones.
Setting aside for the moment whether or not Ronald Reagan was a good President, a strong leader, an admirable man or whatever, it beggars the imagination to see someone denying that the man had a good sense of comic timing and delivery.
Your free market fuck fantasies are sure working great in Kansas
Considering you only post links to shitty far Left websites, and can't actually offer a response yourself, memes are the only thing that might get through to your under developed brain.
Wow, thanks for the link to a Young Turks vid. Cenk is such a well respected, intelligent guy I'm glad I got to hear is idiotic partisan take. What, could you not find another loser like Keith Olberman to feed your talking points for you? How is Flint doing these days? Good old Democrats have done a great job there
Again, you prove your stupidity. Why can't you offer your own reason? Why is it always someone else who has to tell you what to think? Just pick one thing in those left wing websites and explain, in your own words, why you agree with it. Don't worry, we know you won't. You are a fucking idiot, which makes you a perfect pawn for to be a Liberal
Make the world a better place and go kill yourself. No one will miss you, and I'm sure your vote will still get registered
Whoever is in charge of the Republican party has done a great job of destroying the brand. Back in the 70s John Perry Barlow was Dick Cheney's campaign chairman when he ran for Congress in Wyoming. Think about that.
Whoever is in charge of the Republican party has done a great job of destroying the brand. Back in the 70s John Perry Barlow was Dick Cheney's campaign chairman when he ran for Congress in Wyoming. Think about that.
After Obama won the Presidency and the Democrats had control of Congress, we were told THAT was the end of the Republican party and that they would never win another election again, blah blah blah. People are underestimating just how much dislike there is for Hillary Clinton. People might dislike Trump even more, but he also commands people attention like few others. There's a reason NBC ran 14 seasons of The Apprentice. I can't stand listening to Hillary Clinton for 14 seconds, especially when she's shrieking out a campaign speech.
Your free market fuck fantasies are sure working great in Kansas
Considering you only post links to shitty far Left websites, and can't actually offer a response yourself, memes are the only thing that might get through to your under developed brain.
Wow, thanks for the link to a Young Turks vid. Cenk is such a well respected, intelligent guy I'm glad I got to hear is idiotic partisan take. What, could you not find another loser like Keith Olberman to feed your talking points for you? How is Flint doing these days? Good old Democrats have done a great job there
Again, you prove your stupidity. Why can't you offer your own reason? Why is it always someone else who has to tell you what to think? Just pick one thing in those left wing websites and explain, in your own words, why you agree with it. Don't worry, we know you won't. You are a fucking idiot, which makes you a perfect pawn for to be a Liberal
Make the world a better place and go kill yourself. No one will miss you, and I'm sure your vote will still get registered
Yeah, because regurgitating the Cato institute and posting a bunch of fucking dumb pictures is indicative of intelligence. See I like to use a thing called sources. Something you water brained fucking half heads don't bother with before you begin shitting out of your mouths
I totally forgot I posted a link to the Kansas video. You honestly think Kansas has been doing fucking great after the right wing take over? You don't talk about any of the substance of the story, you know, any of the facts. Any statistics. Any hard numbers but just puke out some bullshit about how it's wrong because TYT posted it. How about this, post ANY article that paints the Kansas situation in a good light, you can use any right wing rag blog you want. You talk about "making your own arguments" while posting fucking nonsense. You accuse me of bias but choke on your own. you're not only a moron but you're a moron who thinks he's the smartest person in the room
The Spanish anarchist revolution of 1936 was about the closest thing to a socialist utopia as we've had yet. The thing you claim could never happen. You should look it up. Even Orwell though it was swell. No gods no master
Admiral poop deck, you're supposedly smart being a schyster child molester who isn't in prison yet, you know this is true
Back door man, you're an idiot go back to the coloring books and led Zeppelin eight tracks. It's time for your mush and bed pan changing
Read Bunuel's My Last Sigh for a different view of the anarchists during the war: 'anarchist' military units trying to run as a collective, refusing to get their shit together and being wiped out handily by the organized and disciplined fascists; more concerned with killing village priests, 'reactionary' peasant and helpless monks than fighting those who could shoot back; issuing absurd declarations banning marriage and enforcing 'free love' on mystified peasants; their syndicates grinding wartime production to a crawl. They were doomed long before the Statlinist bastards stepped in to crush their dumb asses.
Read Bunuel's My Last Sigh for a different view of the anarchists during the war: 'anarchist' military units trying to run as a collective, refusing to get their shit together and being wiped out handily by the organized and disciplined fascists; more concerned with killing village priests, 'reactionary' peasant and helpless monks than fighting those who could shoot back; issuing absurd declarations banning marriage and enforcing 'free love' on mystified peasants; their syndicates grinding wartime production to a crawl. They were doomed long before the Statlinist bastards stepped in to crush their dumb asses.
Yeah and a bunch of French twelve year olds in a military school held nazi troops out of the building with single shot .22 rifles until they ran it over with a tank so what your point, shit happens. I don't propose to run a military like a commune but you'd rather not have majority of society be worker run?
I don't believe the anarchists would have created a worker run society, they would have created so much chaos Spain would have ended up with another Lenin rather than a Franco.
I don't believe the anarchists would have created a worker run society, they would have created so much chaos Spain would have ended up with another Lenin rather than a Franco.
So let's forget about the anarchist part for a moment. How about just "worker run" and today's age.
Yeah, because regurgitating the Cato institute and posting a bunch of fucking dumb pictures is indicative of intelligence. See I like to use a thing called sources. Something you water brained fucking half heads don't bother with before you begin shitting out of your mouths
I guess you are stoo stupid to figure out you are ragging on your own MO. You post idiotic vids from Cenk, or the Daily Kos, or HuffPo, then get all whiny when a meme pops up and destroys your talking point. For the love of God, you have no idea what the free market is, but yet seem to hate it
Originally Posted By: CxGxPx
Overlord-
I totally forgot I posted a link to the Kansas video. You honestly think Kansas has been doing fucking great after the right wing take over? You don't talk about any of the substance of the story, you know, any of the facts. Any statistics. Any hard numbers but just puke out some bullshit about how it's wrong because TYT posted it. How about this, post ANY article that paints the Kansas situation in a good light, you can use any right wing rag blog you want. You talk about "making your own arguments" while posting fucking nonsense. You accuse me of bias but choke on your own. you're not only a moron but you're a moron who thinks he's the smartest person in the room
I tell you what, how about I post some links to show you how years of Democrats being in charge of places like Flint, Detroit, Baltimore, Jacksonville, etc. etc are doing. Will you acknowledge that voting Liberal over and over again is a death sentence for any city, state or Country?
I'm sure whatever the situation is in Kansas, it's for more complex that what the Young Turks is making it out to be, or whatever you can understand.
I think it's comical that you are quick to make excuses for why a socialist haven like Venezuela is circling the drain, but will jump all over whatever you're told
Yeah, because regurgitating the Cato institute and posting a bunch of fucking dumb pictures is indicative of intelligence. See I like to use a thing called sources. Something you water brained fucking half heads don't bother with before you begin shitting out of your mouths
I guess you are stoo stupid to figure out you are ragging on your own MO. You post idiotic vids from Cenk, or the Daily Kos, or HuffPo, then get all whiny when a meme pops up and destroys your talking point. For the love of God, you have no idea what the free market is, but yet seem to hate it
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Overlord-
I totally forgot I posted a link to the Kansas video. You honestly think Kansas has been doing fucking great after the right wing take over? You don't talk about any of the substance of the story, you know, any of the facts. Any statistics. Any hard numbers but just puke out some bullshit about how it's wrong because TYT posted it. How about this, post ANY article that paints the Kansas situation in a good light, you can use any right wing rag blog you want. You talk about "making your own arguments" while posting fucking nonsense. You accuse me of bias but choke on your own. you're not only a moron but you're a moron who thinks he's the smartest person in the room
I tell you what, how about I post some links to show you how years of Democrats being in charge of places like Flint, Detroit, Baltimore, Jacksonville, etc. etc are doing. Will you acknowledge that voting Liberal over and over again is a death sentence for any city, state or Country?
I'm sure whatever the situation is in Kansas, it's for more complex that what the Young Turks is making it out to be, or whatever you can understand.
I think it's comical that you are quick to make excuses for why a socialist haven like Venezuela is circling the drain, but will jump all over whatever you're told
Holy fuck. You quoted a pro capitalism piece of shit magazine the Wall Street journal you've totally convinced me. Let's ignore for a fact that former corporate raider who was the influence for Gordon gekkos character Asher Edelman supports sanders in making the economy stronger.
flint? FLINT!?!!!??? You really want to talk about FUCKING FLINT????!!! Then you have to go back to when GM laid off 20 THOUSAND people to which the regions been destroyed ever since. You might as well go to a garbage dump and say why does it stink.
Venezuelas is circling the drain because the capitalists are taking over. The media there is owned by big business. There have been deliberate shortages of goods to undermine communism. You don't know a fucking thing. Look at the right ring take over going on in Brazil right now. Fuck off.
Holy fuck. You quoted a pro capitalism piece of shit magazine
But yet it's ok for you to quote HuffPo, MediaMatters, MSNBC, the Young Turks?
You are literally too stupid to realize how fucking stupid you are.
You don't understand the difference between "objective" journalism and "neutral" The difference between you and me is I can understand when a source has a bias. I'm biased. Being biased doesn't mean you're automatically wrong. Most people have a "bias" against Adolf hitler. You post and say things from a point of view as if they are an objective truth.
These are simple concepts that you can't seem to grasp. The irony of being called stupid by someone as functionally retarded as yourself is a rare thing to experience. I'll treasure it.
I've been watching clips from this election season's 'McLaughlin Group' on youtube because I haven't had television for a while and haven't watched this show regularly in over a decade. I assume Jack Germond is dead. McLaughlin and Eleanor Clifr look dead. Pat Buchanan and Clarence has not aged at all. Morton Kondrake and Michael Kinsley were not there. Any the point is that it's still a good show and it is very strange to see the likes of Clift and Buchanan not wish death on eachother and in some cases even agree.
Sellout Sanders bent the knee to $Hillary. He was never a contender because the the fix was already in. He took all that money from the millennials and it did nothing. He wasted it. He had no spine and no dignity. Hillary fucked him in the ass with a strap on in front of the whole country. He ran home with his tail between his legs to be an Independent nobody. He'll be a bumper sticker on liberal's old cars they were too lazy to scrap off. That's his legacy.
I've been watching clips from this election season's 'McLaughlin Group' on youtube because I haven't had television for a while and haven't watched this show regularly in over a decade. I assume Jack Germond is dead. McLaughlin and Eleanor Clifr look dead. Pat Buchanan and Clarence has not aged at all. Morton Kondrake and Michael Kinsley were not there. Any the point is that it's still a good show and it is very strange to see the likes of Clift and Buchanan not wish death on eachother and in some cases even agree.
John McLaughlin was certainly a Nixon hack, but if I recall correctly was not involved in the Watergate scandal. How many folks here in THE JERKOFF ZONE remember that John McLaughlin endorsed John Kerry over Dubya. I live close to Washington, and can personally attest the guys who go off the reservation this was are financially punished and lose status within the Republican party for this type of apostasy. I find that Mr. McLaughlin acted honorably and to his financial and political detriment, and frankly I applaud his courage.
A great television show, period. Regardless of your political bent or sophistication or lack thereof it ultimately amounted to character comedy and you tuned in each week to see wgat they'd say and how they'd interact, and McLaughlin hilariously put almost sadistic constraints on their answers that often cause them to stutter stammer race to get it out. It was great theater. Very very funny. Metaphysically certitude entertainment. If I remember correctly Dana Carvey did a pretty goddamn funny parody on SNL during the Phil Hartman era.
John McLaughlin was certainly a Nixon hack, but if I recall correctly was not involved in the Watergate scandal. How many folks here in THE JERKOFF ZONE remember that John McLaughlin endorsed John Kerry over Dubya. I live close to Washington, and can personally attest the guys who go off the reservation this was are financially punished and lose status within the Republican party for this type of apostasy. I find that Mr. McLaughlin acted honorably and to his financial and political detriment, and frankly I applaud his courage.
I lived in DC in the mid to late 80s and enjoyed his show as well MPT's Wall Street Week in Review with Louis Rukeyser. Louis could put you to sleep though.
You, man. But you'll pay zero health, incl. prescriptions. Probably come out ahead.
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2. How long will it last?
Forever.
Originally Posted By: backdoorman
3. What will the effect be on the economy long term?
Uplifting. 1/3 of 1/6 of the economy is for-profit insurance companies that produce nothing. Both management and workers will be rid of one of their greatest costs and restraints.
^ Lol. Fat chance. The upcoming election will be the first one with Trump already in power and we've now established that it's perfectly acceptable to use surveillance and plant spies in the opposing party's campaign. #TrumpForever.
^ Too busy to read that link now, but from my understanding the FBI used one informant to feed misinformation to that Papadopolous idiot, then they set up him to blab that info to another informant and then they used that for the basis for a warrant to spy on Trump. Basically the FBI spied on Trump because they wanted to do so for political reasons, not because of Russia.
Translation: I'm afraid to read that link now and be proven wrong, so I'll find something else to do even if it means, gasp, cleaning my house.
No. When the NY Times & Washington Post are writing stories about the people who spied on Trump's campaign, it's obviously disinformation. They want to get out in front of this story before the imminent, damning report from the Inspector General. It's looking more and more like the only people going to jail are going to be the investigators, leakers and spies. What a sad day it is for America when one party uses wiretapping and spies to try to gain an advantage over their political opponent.
And these days, the only thing that gets me to clean my house is if someone I know lets me have some adderall.
^ This shit happens every time there's a shooting or act of domestic terrorism. It usually goes the other way, with people doing anything and everything they can to link the suspect to the Republicans. Crazy is crazy and I don't think either side has a monopoly.
And adderall is of no recreational value. It is a great appetite suppressant and also cures hangovers like nothing else. For me, it feels like the first time I ever had a cup of coffee.
This shit happens every time there's a shooting or act of domestic terrorism.
Panicky NRA Types trying to blame everyone else? I agree. And yet, children keep bleeding.
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And adderall is of no recreational value. It is a great appetite suppressant and also cures hangovers like nothing else. For me, it feels like the first time I ever had a cup of coffee.
It did clear my hangover enough to do a fuckton of physical labor that godawful morning after, but I'm still not a fan.
Let's wait for some more facts about the shooter to come out before we start making declarations about him. I was disappointed to see he had a Greek name. Having said that, Greeks overwhelming support the Democrats. So, let's wait to hear some actual facts about this sicko.
I did read that he'd recently started wearing a black trench coat to school. How did that not raise people's suspicion?
^ He sounds all mixed up: "Pagourtzis uploaded a picture of a jacket adorned with several pinned symbols. In captions, he explained the significance of each: the Communist Party's hammer and sickle representing rebellion, Nazi Germany's Iron Cross representing bravery, the Japanese rising sun for the tactics of kamikaze pilots, the knights templar's Baphomet for evil, and the Cthulhu from science fiction for power."
I did read that he'd recently started wearing a black trench coat to school. How did that not raise people's suspicion?
You know that "trench coat mafia" bullshit from Columbine turned out to be total false information on the part of the 24-hour news cycle and their rush to entertain instead of reporting facts? http://www.acolumbinesite.com/tcm.php It fit the narrative, so pop culture adopted the lie as history
Conservative/Liberal/Libertarian/Democrat/Republican/Libtard/Red-stater... whatever they are, they need less access to guns.
Conservative/Liberal/Libertarian/Democrat/Republican/Libtard/Red-stater... whatever they are, they need less access to guns.
No group of teens had more access to guns than me and my classmates growing up. There were guns everywhere and no one had gun safes or locked them up or anything. Heck, I got an AR-15 for Christmas when I was 16. The only shooting I recall was when one kid tragically shot his brother by accident while playing around with a gun he didn't know was loaded.
The liberal media hyping up and trying to exploit every shooting in an obvious attempt to take away people's guns has only made the situation worse. They've sensationalized school shootings and now there are copycat shootings every few months. It's all the Democrats and their media sycophant's fault, yet again.
^that's right, feed the cycle of ignorance and finger-pointing while avoiding the truth. It's the Dems fault, of course. Fucking Fox TV and your right-ist media don't sensationalize these events? Of course they do. It's the 24hr news cycle at fault for sensationalism, regardless of political slant. Wake the fuck up, sheepster. The very fact that you chose the words "trench coat" proves this point. Yes, it was not like this when you were a kid....that was before instant news and we only "immortalized" serial killers by teaching everyone their full names and making them celebrities. Now we give these shitheels instant celebrity and the attention they feel they were deprived.(awww) The media has blame to be sure, but you have to divorce the dem/rep bullshit and see the problem for what it really is.
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No group of teens had more access to guns than me and my classmates growing up.
Preposterous, tell that to the settlers and any teens from history beyond your lifespan.
Also whether they wore them or not in Columbine, black trench coats are creepy. Goth kids with their black cloaks & capes are still creepier, but they don't go shooting up schools.
^that's right, feed the cycle of ignorance and finger-pointing while avoiding the truth. It's the Dems fault, of course. Fucking Fox TV and your right-ist media don't sensationalize these events? Of course they do. It's the 24hr news cycle at fault for sensationalism, regardless of political slant. Wake the fuck up, sheepster. The very fact that you chose the words "trench coat" proves this point. Yes, it was not like this when you were a kid....that was before instant news and we only "immortalized" serial killers by teaching everyone their full names and making them celebrities. Now we give these shitheels instant celebrity and the attention they feel they were deprived.(awww) The media has blame to be sure, but you have to divorce the dem/rep bullshit and see the problem for what it really is.
No. It's Democrats fault. Their media minions are the ones driving the school shooting/gun control story. FOX covers the story because they have to, otherwise they'd be accused of intentionally ignoring it. This issue is being pushed by the liberal media, celebrities and Democrat politicians, all in an effort to take away our guns. They are the ones responsible for sensationalizing school shootings and have only done what they always do, which is make everything worse for all of us.
Also whether they wore them or not in Columbine, black trench coats are creepy. Goth kids with their black cloaks & capes are still creepier, but they don't go shooting up schools.
You just contradicted yourself and proved my point. Ban trench coats, not guns? Wake up, Bro
Why, because the columbine shooters were not part of the trench coat kids and thus the association was false? Uh, that makes sense.
Nothing you say makes much sense these days. I said black trench coats are creepy and should raise suspicion. You're the one who keeps bringing up Columbine. Everyone associates black trench coats with school shootings now and no one cares if they never wore them back then or not.
Also whether they wore them or not in Columbine, black trench coats are creepy. Goth kids with their black cloaks & capes are still creepier, but they don't go shooting up schools.
Read your own words. Do trenchcoats = shooters, or not? Are you drawing line between trench coats and cloaks & capes???
^ Guns aren't the problem. Your side has hyped up school shootings to the point that it's become an option to be considered by every depressed high school kid now. All because you want to take away our guns in yet another effort to completely control the masses. For shame.
The liberal media hyping up and trying to exploit every shooting in an obvious attempt to take away people's guns has only made the situation worse. They've sensationalized school shootings and now there are copycat shootings every few months. It's all the Democrats and their media sycophant's fault, yet again.
All because you want to take away our guns in yet another effort to completely control the masses.
When the truth is too scary for you, believe the lies. Nobody wants yer gunz. Separate the issue from the prejudice to find the solution. And how is your having gunz going to prevent "the complete control"? You going to take up an armed militia against the US military? Again, preposterous. It's just another "but what about", the only move you have in your fear mongering game.
^ Guns aren't the problem. Your side has hyped up school shootings to the point that it's become an option to be considered by every depressed high school kid now. All because you want to take away our guns in yet another effort to completely control the masses. For shame.
So your argument is it's ok because Trump does it?
No, that would be your argument. My argument is that when it's done back at you, you crumple up in a ball and cry like a bitch. As you've been doing all day.
Getting serious for a sec, why do you guys hate her and go after her looks so much? Why is that ok?
Another dodge/spin. The WHCD joke about her was in reference to her lies, not her appearance. You believe the spin, not the reality
Why do your responses refer to things I never said? I asked J.B. why it's ok to attack her looks right after he posted an unflattering pic of her. I never once mentioned the WHCD.
Why do your responses refer to things I never said? I asked J.B. why it's ok to attack her looks right after he posted an unflattering pic of her. I never once mentioned the WHCD.
You referred to "You Guys". Plural. And you're still dodging Drumpf's documented history of doing exactly the same thing.
I'm worried that the warmer weather and the attendant shedding of the Alaskan winter layer has weakened Steezo's ability to roll up into a protective ball. You need to eat, boy.
^ Just because something winds up in an unfunny SNL opening skit doesn't make it true.
I'm referring to Giuliani's own appearances on Hannity and the other Fox News programs. Of course, just because something winds up on Fox News doesn't make it true, either.
No group of teens had more access to guns than me and my classmates growing up. There were guns everywhere and no one had gun safes or locked them up or anything.
This is still the funniest lie all day. So, your 1970s/1980s upbringing had more access to guns than any other? 1870s, 1770s, 1900s? Talk about bullshit! No one is coming for yer gunz! That's just the NRA feeding you a bunch of fear to swallow.
^ What am I, a fucking time traveler? Not every point has to be attacked on every level. We had easy access a lot of fucking guns and no one ever shot up the school, ok?
In 1966, there were relatively few assault weapons on the market that were convertible to full automatic, and far less awareness of how to do so. Now the instructions for converting a weapon are freely available on the internet, along with kits costing just a few hundred dollars that either help with the modifications or essentially act as crude conversion mechanisms in and of themselves. There weren't as many AK-47s around in 1966 as there are now, and only a few AR-15s that could be converted, because it was a relatively new weapon...
In 1966, there were relatively few assault weapons on the market that were convertible to full automatic, and far less awareness of how to do so. Now the instructions for converting a weapon are freely available on the internet, along with kits costing just a few hundred dollars that either help with the modifications or essentially act as crude conversion mechanisms in and of themselves. There weren't as many AK-47s around in 1966 as there are now, and only a few AR-15s that could be converted, because it was a relatively new weapon...
And my brother converted an Uzi to full auto. Until it broke forever, do you know the only thing he ever used it for? To cut down a tree.
^No. It's called, "Point-Counterpoint!" And I have it down a science now. Also, you keep mentioning things that have nothing to do with my arguments. I never said we don't have a problem with school shootings. I just don't think gun control is the answer.
First you mention school shootings vs military deaths this year, then you link to an article from last November. Your arguments have stopped making sense entirely.
^ Ok, and what if military deaths were up last year and down dramatically this year? I'm not going to bother searching for articles to back this up. I'm just saying your arguments don't make any sense anymore.
Let's wait for some more facts about the shooter to come out before we start making declarations about him. I was disappointed to see he had a Greek name. Having said that, Greeks overwhelming support the Democrats. So, let's wait to hear some actual facts about this sicko.
I did read that he'd recently started wearing a black trench coat to school. How did that not raise people's suspicion?
This is clearly a case for Hookers in the Schools programs to begin right away. Fuck guns in the classrooms, get some fucking whores up in there to suck off these maladjusted loner losers and Boom, there goes school shootings. Thing of the past.(pun intended) Poor neighborhoods can make the school nurse do it. Fuck her, the drunk
This is clearly a case for Hookers in the Schools programs to begin right away. Fuck guns in the classrooms, get some fucking whores up in there to suck off these maladjusted loner losers and Boom, there goes school shootings. Thing of the past.(pun intended) Poor neighborhoods can make the school nurse do it. Fuck her, the drunk
Yeah, high school girls these days are way hotter than they used to be, but their sluttiness hasn't increased at the same rate and it's driving these young guys nuts. Also, trench coats.
What seems spurious is that it doesn't specify school shooters and the causes of the 90s deaths. Only that they were killings at school, which ignores the crack factor. A bunch of low number incidents vs the mass murderer style
A bunch of low number incidents vs the mass murderer style
This merely indicates the current overcrowding in our public schools, the result of gross mismanagement by the incompetent liberal Democrats who have a stranglehold over our education system. If you want your kids to have a safe school life, you should send them to less crowded, properly managed Christian schools run by compassionate, conservative Republicans.
A bunch of low number incidents vs the mass murderer style
This merely indicates the current overcrowding in our public schools, the result of gross mismanagement by the incompetent liberal Democrats who have a stranglehold over our education system. If you want your kids to have a safe school life, you should send them to less crowded, properly managed Christian schools run by compassionate, conservative Republicans.
Well, someone obviously didn't go to catholic school.
A bunch of low number incidents vs the mass murderer style
This merely indicates the current overcrowding in our public schools, the result of gross mismanagement by the incompetent liberal Democrats who have a stranglehold over our education system. If you want your kids to have a safe school life, you should send them to less crowded, properly managed Christian schools run by compassionate, conservative Republicans.
Yeah and when those kids grow up and take over the first people that would get thrown in the fucking gulag would be sex perverts like you and me both you fucking fool. Your stupid gimmick is getting real old real fast.