3 Years on XPT. Has Porno Changed?

Posted by: Willie D

3 Years on XPT. Has Porno Changed? - 09/20/08 11:53 AM

Today starts my 4th year on XPT. Yeah, woohoo Happy Birthday to Me.

Instead of patting myself on the back, I want some perspective. I can't do the long, prosaic posts like Burg, but the porn world seems remarkably different than it was three years ago. Much, much less interesting or controversial. Much less worthy of reading about, and even less writing about.

What has happened in the last three years? Did I just grow numb to the perversity, backstabbing and mindless misinformation which imbues this disgusting trade? Or am I missing something big?
Posted by: Gigi

Re: 3 Years on XPT. Has Porno Changed? - 09/20/08 12:27 PM

i blame gunker
Posted by: Willie D

Re: 3 Years on XPT. Has Porno Changed? - 09/20/08 03:23 PM

Every day, I wake up and fear I am going to read of the "hot new adult film title" called Interracial Anal Creampie ATM Whores, where unsuspecting young women are make to endure the social stigma of interracial anal sex, at which point the mope in question ejaculates into her anus, then withdraws for the purpose of said woman cleaning the various bodily fluids off said mope's penis.

Colonel Kurtz had it right. The world is ending.
Posted by: Fenris

Re: 3 Years on XPT. Has Porno Changed? - 09/20/08 10:50 PM

My two cents...

I think a state of boredom has hit porn in general. It hit a critical mass a couple of years ago with things like Donkey Punch, Rough Sex, Meatholes and Max Hardcore not so much pushing the envelope but completely destroying it. The problem with shit like that is this. How do you top it?

The Answer: You really can't.

There are only so many orifices to explore/penetrate/violate and once you've done that you start hitting the limits of human anatomy. Sure, you can do a 500 man anal gangbang, but it's been done, and do you really want to deal with that many mopes on a porn set anyways?

Someone needs to do something really fucking creative on the porn front, and I have no idea what the hell that's going to be. With rampant piracy, the shitty economy and the government crackdown in effect, anybody that's smart is getting the hell out of the line of fire and trying something new.

I gauge about two more years of this, and then things are going to upswing into new and interesting stuff. New talent, new themes, more money and an answer to the piracy problem.

It'll happen.

Then again, maybe you're just bored Willie. How long have you been staring at porn anyways?
Posted by: Stevie Why

Re: 3 Years on XPT. Has Porno Changed? - 09/21/08 12:53 AM

LONG POST, so no one fucking bitch:



I started getting involved with the industry around February/March 2005, started snooping on different boards a few months after. I've noticed a remarkable change since then, much of it seeming to be mirroring the current gloomy U.S. economic state, but a bunch of reasons that have been porn's own creations that I blame for the decline.

First there's way too many companies out there, way too much content and way too may names for me to follow porn news anymore. It seems like it was so much simpler three or four years ago.

There's been a ton of personal tragedies; I think the turning point was when Jon Dough hung himself in August 2006...its been nothing but shitty stories about free wheeling Brian Surewood, Panty Raider/Rapist Jack Venice, Chico and Haley, and tons of overdoses. Many of these reaching national news headlines. I just don't know if any of these are sobering enough. Hell, even Joe fucking Francis spent most of the last few years behind bars!

Who's porn's #1 villain now? Shelley fucking Lubben? John Ashcroft seemed so much more imposing. With an industry so full of whackos and ex-cons I'm surprised no one's just flipped out on her yet.

I think the curtains shielding so many of porn's "Great Wizards of Oz" have been yanked off the rod. In 2005 Alt Porn was all the rage (I admit, I was a fan and thought it could be a cool new porn revolution). Instead we get Eon McKai on a Showtime "reality" show looking like the world's biggest douche (is it a wonder he loved Kurt Lockwood in so many of his epic artistic works?) Or Steve Hirsch's rapist glare he always seems to have? Ick. Porn just kind of fizzled in the mainstream the last few years...so much publicity seemed to surround the ridiculous hype of celebrity porn tapes. We went from Pam Anderson and Paris Hilton to Chyna and MINI ME? WTF?

I thought Free Speech Coalition was some intelligent power house of a force; after seeing them up close and personal its no wonder they've imploded over the last few years. This was an organization that won their own Supreme Court case just a few years previously. While they tried to have everyone fear a big 'ol Obscenity Boogey-Man knocking on every company's doors, 2257 inspections came and went, most companies seemed happy to throw those charged (Max, JM, Extreme Associates especially) with Federal obscenity violations to the wolves...yet FSC ignored all sorts of issues until too late. Piracy? Now they're just starting to address it (five years too late), or OSHA enforcement which will quite possibly become the biggest headache for the most producers within California, not to mention insurance for filming, contracts of "independent contractors?"

I had four or five friends who I had met in college who eventually got involved in the business at all sorts of levels (I met them all before they went to porn, from performing to behind the scenes at some of the biggest companies to small operations). Not a single one remains; for me I've lost much of my personal connection to the industry so I've cared less and less.

Though its not all lost; there seems to be a resurgence in sexual talk among people my age and I've noticed more and more friends doing their own private photo shoots or movies on their I-Phones. The same technological advances that are powering a new promiscuity and sexual openness are killing porn. Guess it might be for the better though.

Posted by: *L*G*

Re: 3 Years on XPT. Has Porno Changed? - 09/21/08 02:00 AM

Stevie Why porn insider
Posted by: Walrus

Re: 3 Years on XPT. Has Porno Changed? - 09/21/08 04:14 AM

Quote:


There's been a ton of personal tragedies; I think the turning point was when Jon Dough hung himself in August 2006...




Don't you mean hanged?
Posted by: mallocup

Re: 3 Years on XPT. Has Porno Changed? - 09/21/08 06:48 AM

Quote:

The same technological advances that are powering a new promiscuity and sexual openness are changing porn.




fixed..

in short, accept and adapt. I'll admit I know very fucking little, but this is fucking obvious..

to attempt to add a response to willy's original question, much as the pudgy ex-frat turd implied: freesites and amateur upload web 2.0 possibilities have changed most everything..



Posted by: mallocup

Re: 3 Years on XPT. Has Porno Changed? - 09/21/08 08:54 AM

Quote:

The same technological advances that are powering a new promiscuity and sexual openness are changing porn.




fixed..

Posted by: Stevie Why

Re: 3 Years on XPT. Has Porno Changed? - 09/21/08 11:48 AM

Quote:

Stevie Why porn insider




I know, I used to be pretty privy to some good gossip and inside dealings. You've never asked me about my time on the road with Anita Cannibal for one.

Never joined a frat either boys, just wrote scripts on them.
Posted by: Gunker

Re: 3 Years on XPT. Has Porno Changed? - 09/21/08 08:14 PM

Quote:

i blame gunker




Me too!

Also overproduction and broadband Internet providing plenty of free jackoff material.
Posted by: BIFF™

Re: 3 Years on XPT. Has Porno Changed? - 09/22/08 12:43 AM

Quote:

LONG POST, so no one fucking bitch:



I started getting involved with the industry around February/March 2005, started snooping on different boards a few months after. I've noticed a remarkable change since then, much of it seeming to be mirroring the current gloomy U.S. economic state, but a bunch of reasons that have been porn's own creations that I blame for the decline.

First there's way too many companies out there, way too much content and way too may names for me to follow porn news anymore. It seems like it was so much simpler three or four years ago.

There's been a ton of personal tragedies; I think the turning point was when Jon Dough hung himself in August 2006...its been nothing but shitty stories about free wheeling Brian Surewood, Panty Raider/Rapist Jack Venice, Chico and Haley, and tons of overdoses. Many of these reaching national news headlines. I just don't know if any of these are sobering enough. Hell, even Joe fucking Francis spent most of the last few years behind bars!

Who's porn's #1 villain now? Shelley fucking Lubben? John Ashcroft seemed so much more imposing. With an industry so full of whackos and ex-cons I'm surprised no one's just flipped out on her yet.

I think the curtains shielding so many of porn's "Great Wizards of Oz" have been yanked off the rod. In 2005 Alt Porn was all the rage (I admit, I was a fan and thought it could be a cool new porn revolution). Instead we get Eon McKai on a Showtime "reality" show looking like the world's biggest douche (is it a wonder he loved Kurt Lockwood in so many of his epic artistic works?) Or Steve Hirsch's rapist glare he always seems to have? Ick. Porn just kind of fizzled in the mainstream the last few years...so much publicity seemed to surround the ridiculous hype of celebrity porn tapes. We went from Pam Anderson and Paris Hilton to Chyna and MINI ME? WTF?

I thought Free Speech Coalition was some intelligent power house of a force; after seeing them up close and personal its no wonder they've imploded over the last few years. This was an organization that won their own Supreme Court case just a few years previously. While they tried to have everyone fear a big 'ol Obscenity Boogey-Man knocking on every company's doors, 2257 inspections came and went, most companies seemed happy to throw those charged (Max, JM, Extreme Associates especially) with Federal obscenity violations to the wolves...yet FSC ignored all sorts of issues until too late. Piracy? Now they're just starting to address it (five years too late), or OSHA enforcement which will quite possibly become the biggest headache for the most producers within California, not to mention insurance for filming, contracts of "independent contractors?"

I had four or five friends who I had met in college who eventually got involved in the business at all sorts of levels (I met them all before they went to porn, from performing to behind the scenes at some of the biggest companies to small operations). Not a single one remains; for me I've lost much of my personal connection to the industry so I've cared less and less.

Though its not all lost; there seems to be a resurgence in sexual talk among people my age and I've noticed more and more friends doing their own private photo shoots or movies on their I-Phones. The same technological advances that are powering a new promiscuity and sexual openness are killing porn. Guess it might be for the better though.






Posted by: mallocup

Re: 3 Years on XPT. Has Porno Changed? - 09/22/08 06:57 AM

has no-one yet mentioned cx's recent "bog" post about the industry's supposed state of decay? admittedly it is the same old (to be expected) self indulgent tripe that we have come to expect from primadonna stunt cock #00854537987, but somewhat insightful nonetheless:

http://cwians.typepad.com/christian_sings_the_blues/2008/09/naughty-bookwor.html
Posted by: Smell of Anus

Re: 3 Years on XPT. Has Porno Changed? - 09/22/08 08:53 AM

Quote:

Quote:

LONG POST, so no one fucking bitch:



I started getting involved with the industry around February/March 2005, started snooping on different boards a few months after. I've noticed a remarkable change since then, much of it seeming to be mirroring the current gloomy U.S. economic state, but a bunch of reasons that have been porn's own creations that I blame for the decline.

First there's way too many companies out there, way too much content and way too may names for me to follow porn news anymore. It seems like it was so much simpler three or four years ago.

There's been a ton of personal tragedies; I think the turning point was when Jon Dough hung himself in August 2006...its been nothing but shitty stories about free wheeling Brian Surewood, Panty Raider/Rapist Jack Venice, Chico and Haley, and tons of overdoses. Many of these reaching national news headlines. I just don't know if any of these are sobering enough. Hell, even Joe fucking Francis spent most of the last few years behind bars!

Who's porn's #1 villain now? Shelley fucking Lubben? John Ashcroft seemed so much more imposing. With an industry so full of whackos and ex-cons I'm surprised no one's just flipped out on her yet.

I think the curtains shielding so many of porn's "Great Wizards of Oz" have been yanked off the rod. In 2005 Alt Porn was all the rage (I admit, I was a fan and thought it could be a cool new porn revolution). Instead we get Eon McKai on a Showtime "reality" show looking like the world's biggest douche (is it a wonder he loved Kurt Lockwood in so many of his epic artistic works?) Or Steve Hirsch's rapist glare he always seems to have? Ick. Porn just kind of fizzled in the mainstream the last few years...so much publicity seemed to surround the ridiculous hype of celebrity porn tapes. We went from Pam Anderson and Paris Hilton to Chyna and MINI ME? WTF?

I thought Free Speech Coalition was some intelligent power house of a force; after seeing them up close and personal its no wonder they've imploded over the last few years. This was an organization that won their own Supreme Court case just a few years previously. While they tried to have everyone fear a big 'ol Obscenity Boogey-Man knocking on every company's doors, 2257 inspections came and went, most companies seemed happy to throw those charged (Max, JM, Extreme Associates especially) with Federal obscenity violations to the wolves...yet FSC ignored all sorts of issues until too late. Piracy? Now they're just starting to address it (five years too late), or OSHA enforcement which will quite possibly become the biggest headache for the most producers within California, not to mention insurance for filming, contracts of "independent contractors?"

I had four or five friends who I had met in college who eventually got involved in the business at all sorts of levels (I met them all before they went to porn, from performing to behind the scenes at some of the biggest companies to small operations). Not a single one remains; for me I've lost much of my personal connection to the industry so I've cared less and less.

Though its not all lost; there seems to be a resurgence in sexual talk among people my age and I've noticed more and more friends doing their own private photo shoots or movies on their I-Phones. The same technological advances that are powering a new promiscuity and sexual openness are killing porn. Guess it might be for the better though.











adding as much content to the board as usual I see, Biff.