Bella and her shaved head

Posted by: Tricia

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/07/07 01:37 PM

People can think she's attractive or not, like the types of scenes she's done or not. whatever, no one is liked by everyone.
But the one thing I'll defend her on forever is that she's an amazing mom. Her child is such a happy little girl, and I've never seen Bella's face so sweet and happy as when she talks about her daughter.

Posted by: Conky

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/07/07 03:21 PM

Skeeter makes some interesting points about Bella on AdultFYI.com:

"Why can Belladonna breaks Kelly Wells' jaw? Hospitalize her- and lie to her? If Max and I did that to a girl we'd most definitely be in prison for 20 years. Why does Belladonna get a pat on a back and a bonus for breaking Kelly Wells jaw? It happened. It's not a lie. It was broken. Kelly Wells' jaw was broken, not fractured. It took over $50,000 of surgery to fix. While Belladonna's worthless, over weight, skin-condition husband was trying to convince Kelly Wells- oh, there's nothing wrong. We'll give you $2,000 and you'll be okay. The girl's crying. She demanded to go to the hospital as her jaw hung down. How did they cover this up? I want to know.

"Why is Max such a bad guy for 'peeing' when Belladona is pissing in everybody's mouth, beating the girls, hurting them, making them cry, some of them run away. Why is Max different? I got a problem with this and I'll say it- I love Max Hardcore. And these fags on ADT put him down and say who watches this stuff- you cocksucking, motherfuckers, while you're worshipping Erik Everhard because he's with Jules Jordan whose storylines look like Jim Powers. Why does Jim Powers always have a storyline? Because in his heart he says I want a reason for the sex."

The man has a point. For once.

Posted by: Soopergrizz

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/07/07 03:22 PM

Hey Tricia, how's it goin'?

Posted by: Tricia

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/07/07 03:55 PM

fabulous thanks.
Always loved that pic, btw.

Posted by: Gigi

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/07/07 05:53 PM

ah. skeeter.

that is all.

Posted by: Conky

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/08/07 01:42 PM

So Tricia, no comment on Skeeter's remarks about Max etc. being vilified and Belladonna getting an apparent free pass?

Just wondering.

Posted by: Tricia

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/08/07 04:32 PM

conky-
since you asked.

Max is an old drunk who enjoys making girls feel horrible during their scenes.
Girls work with Bella, and they practically fall in love with her and want to work with her over and over.
I don't have a problem with what Bella does, because she can and does take everything that she dishes out... probably twice as much.

Posted by: Conky

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/08/07 04:47 PM

Tricia, you just paid the entry fee to XPT. Damn, after all those years posting on ADT, here's the place where you can vent without concern.

Welcome aboard porn forums' version of the Love Boat.

Posted by: ivorenginedriver

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/08/07 05:23 PM

Welcome to xxxporntalk Tricia. You are da Bomb.

Posted by: Houstondon

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/08/07 05:35 PM

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Skeeter makes some interesting points about Bella on AdultFYI.com:

"Why is Max such a bad guy for 'peeing' when Belladona is pissing in everybody's mouth, beating the girls, hurting them, making them cry, some of them run away. Why is Max different? I got a problem with this and I'll say it- I love Max Hardcore. And these fags on ADT put him down and say who watches this stuff- you cocksucking, motherfuckers, while you're worshipping Erik Everhard because he's with Jules Jordan whose storylines look like Jim Powers. Why does Jim Powers always have a storyline? Because in his heart he says I want a reason for the sex."

The man has a point. For once.

I've argued with Skeeter in the past, mostly when he thought I wasn't singing the praises of his wife loudly enough (or for having the balls to say she had an "off day" in a particular scene with Lex), and I have a different take than a few of you. Max has always been exceptionally pleasant to me at the AEE; posing for pictures, asking if I wanted particular poses with his gals, and trying to hand me copies of his movies. Whether his porn persona of a woman hating bastard is just an act or how he really feels towards them, his scenes convey a lot of anger and give me the feeling that he's getting revenge on some broad that did him wrong in the past. As a result, I don't review his stuff as much as a courtesy to him and being fair as the fact that I'm not into it (I'm sure some of you will be toughening me up in the coming weeks though). In short, Max makes me dislike him when he's "working" (and yes James, I'll still defend him as I did awhile back on the AVN blog for having the right to be that way, even if his work isn't my kind of thing).

Bella, on the other hand, has always left me with the impression that she likes the people she's working with and is trying her best to get them off as she herself does by stretching their respective limits. I don't always like her titles but her porn face seems much like the one she carries with her (we've met a few times over the years here in Houston as well as at the shows). In short, Bella is one of the nicest gals in porn and while not a glamour contract type of gal, is noted for throwing herself into her work and enjoying it without reservation without the need of portraying a hater.

Skeeter himself goes out of his way in his movies (which surprised me repeatedly in how good they could be) to play nice with the women, practically worshipping them on camera before their scenes start. If he started acting more like Max, I have no doubt that I wouldn't like his work as much. It's a shame that he feels compelled to attack people who have a different opinion of what makes for good porn though because his friendly persona as a director is far closer to Bella's than Max's; a fact he may have overlooked in his rant. As far as Everhard and Jordan are concerned, the reason a lot of people like them (outside of the fact that they make some of the longest quality gonzo flicks in porn) is the level of intensity they get from the women; again, real or performed-it doesn't matter since it helps give the viewer something to fantasize about.
(donning asbestos suit)

Posted by: Soopergrizz

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/08/07 09:36 PM

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(donning asbestos suit)

No need for that, you seem like a reasonable fellow with the courage of his convictions, well-spoken and forthright.

As far as Max goes - I've read lots of interviews of women he's worked with that attest to the fact that off-camera he is very respectful (although there are some that are interviewed whilst sedated and in a mental hospital).

If you don't like his particular brand of porn - well, "different strokes for different strokers". You've already staked out your position that even if you don't want to watch Max's films, you don't want to stop others from doing so, which seems perfectly reasonable to me.

So, no asbestos suit needed, but if it makes you feel better.

Fuck you, fag!

Posted by: k1ng

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/08/07 09:53 PM

As an outsider, my best assessment of the problems that seem to make news about Max's stuff isn't Max himself so much as girls new to the biz that roll onto one of his sets unaware of what they are in for.

Posted by: Bornyo

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/08/07 11:36 PM

What Max does is evil, wicked and dangerous. I can hardly believe people defend him. What occurs in a Max movie that is even remotely redeeming? Nothing, that's what.

Max is a misogynistic, dysfunctional, creepy, soon to be pedophile. (If he isn't already).

Maybe Max will pass out on the yellow couch in one of his alcohol fueled stupors, drown on his own puke and we can all see the pictures posted on rotten.com

Posted by: J.B.

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/09/07 12:37 AM

I agree with everything Bornyo said. I think hes bad for the industry and truly wish he'd have that heart attack that GiGi predicted. Having said that, I've gotta defend his first amendment right to do what he does, as appalled by it as I am. Freedom only works if everybody has the same rights to free speech as everybody else. Even those I disagree with. Especially those I disagree with. The only way my right to say what I want can be secure is if Max can do what he does, if the Nazi's can march in Skokie and if Rev. Al Sharpton can say the most offensivly racist things about cops and white people in New York. The first amendment if for everybody; even scumbags.

Having climbed down off my soapbox, I'll go back to praying for that heart attack.

Posted by: JEHOVAH

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/09/07 03:16 AM

Sonny, praying for someone's death, even a Hitler or a Stalin or even a Max, is just plain wrong. I don't answer them. I don't answer most "good" prayers, either. They just get filed away for information. But as far as Max goes, between you, me and the rest of the board, you don't have that long to wait. He's been on the list for some time. Feel better, now?

Posted by: the unknown pervert

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/09/07 03:30 AM

I don't know if you take requests or if you outsource the reincarnation stuff but I would prefer a little sloppiness with the paperwork and do the Warren Beatty Heaven Can Wait treatment on him. Only send him back in the form of Aubrey Hollander's asshole.

Posted by: JEHOVAH

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/09/07 04:02 AM

Hmmmm... Punish Max by sending him back as an asshole to be repeatedly violated? Not a bad Idea. Hey Perv, have you ever thought of a career in the Eternity Business? We could use a bright young man with your talents.

Posted by: Uptowner

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/09/07 06:49 AM

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...if the Nazi's can march in Skokie and if Rev. Al Sharpton can say the most offensivly racist things about cops and white people in New York.

Aside from the fact that the Nazis never marched in Skokie, I'm curious to know what Sharpton said that so offended our free speech advocate. And are cops a race now?

Posted by: Jeff Steward

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/09/07 08:44 AM

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People can think she's attractive or not, like the types of scenes she's done or not. whatever, no one is liked by everyone.
But the one thing I'll defend her on forever is that she's an amazing mom. Her child is such a happy little girl, and I've never seen Bella's face so sweet and happy as when she talks about her daughter.

Well coming from a great mom like you that means alot.

Posted by: Conky

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/09/07 09:32 AM

I'm looking at the whole thing as an intellectual argument. I'm interested in a level playing field, so if Max is wrong, therefore Belladonna is wrong.

There shouldn't be a two tier system just because someone was born with ovaries and someone else was born with a stetson.

Personally, I stopped watching Max's movies about eight years ago when the joke stopped being funny, but this isn't about personal taste so much as a legal standpoint. I enjoy the snobbery some producers display when you mention 'other people' to them. This, despite the fact that all the money earned is ultimately sticky with discharged cum. Even if it is metaphorical rather than literal.

Posted by: Soopergrizz

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/09/07 09:40 AM

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What occurs in a Max movie that is even remotely redeeming? Nothing, that's what.

I appreciate that you have strong feelings on this issue, but really, what has anyone in this industry done that is redeeming? Ever?

A Club Jenna receptionist giving Firewall a handjob doesn't count.

Posted by: the unknown pervert

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/09/07 09:50 AM

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Hmmmm... Punish Max by sending him back as an asshole to be repeatedly violated? Not a bad Idea. Hey Perv, have you ever thought of a career in the Eternity Business? We could use a bright young man with your talents.

How's the benefit package? I would prefer something in either marketing or human resources and I don't want anything to do with the R&D department.

Posted by: Soopergrizz

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/09/07 09:55 AM

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I don't want anything to do with the R&D department.

Who could blame you - talk about thankless.

Posted by: big moose

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/09/07 09:59 AM

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I'm looking at the whole thing as an intellectual argument. I'm interested in a level playing field, so if Max is wrong, therefore Belladonna is wrong.

There shouldn't be a two tier system just because someone was born with ovaries and someone else was born with a stetson.

maybe, and maybe not. but it doesn't really matter, does it? i mean, it beez the way it beez. it's possible that what you say is true, (i might argue to the contrary, but whatever) but the fact is that it does make a difference. it does mean two different things, when that bitch smacks a bitch up and when mr. hardcore smacks a bitch up. i find the argument that it shouldn't, as an argument that it doesn't, to be deeply flawed.

Posted by: Conky

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/09/07 10:05 AM

That's your opinion, but as someone working in the industry, I don't like double standards. It makes a mockery of an already ridiculous legal system.

Posted by: big moose

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/09/07 10:31 AM

well, nobody likes double standards. i hate intolerance, as well. but, i'm saying, it just beez that way. there really is no such thing as a "level playing field". i'm not allowed to use the word "nigger", right? niggers can't get a cab to stop for them. hm. maybe no one should be saying the word, "nigger". maybe everyone should. maybe cabs should stop just as quick for some thug-looking black guy as they do for a white guy in a suit. it's a motherfucking double standard.

perhaps neither one of these filmmakers should be abusing women. i definitely shouldn't buy the euro versions of mr. hardcore's films.

i am unfamiliar with belladonna's films, though. is there a similar atmosphere of ugly aggression towards women that is so pervasive in mr. hardcore's films?

Posted by: Saevus Maximus

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/09/07 11:30 AM

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People can think she's attractive or not, like the types of scenes she's done or not. whatever, no one is liked by everyone.
But the one thing I'll defend her on forever is that she's an amazing mom. Her child is such a happy little girl, and I've never seen Bella's face so sweet and happy as when she talks about her daughter.

Serial killers get that same look when they speak about their victims. Hopefully child services will rescue this poor unfortunate child.

Posted by: J.B.

Re: Bella and her shaved head - 04/09/07 12:44 PM

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...if the Nazi's can march in Skokie and if Rev. Al Sharpton can say the most offensivly racist things about cops and white people in New York.

Aside from the fact that the Nazis never marched in Skokie, I'm curious to know what Sharpton said that so offended our free speech advocate. And are cops a race now?

Uh, FGFM, the reason the Nazis didn't march in Skokie is that their original, preferred venue, Chicago's Marquette Park, suddenly became available. Nonetheless, the important thing here is that the Nazis won the right to march in Skokie, which has seen more than it's share of demonstrations from racist sacumbags:

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From Wiki
Skokie was traditionally home to a sizable Jewish population, although in recent years the town has significantly diversified and much of the Jewish population has moved to other suburbs. In 1977 and 1978, members of the National Socialist Party of America (an offshoot of the American Nazi Party) attempted to march through Skokie. The NSPA planned to rally in Marquette Park, Chicago; the city reacted by placing a ban on all demonstrations in the park.

Seeking another venue, the NSPA chose Skokie. On account of the large number of Holocaust survivors in Skokie, it was believed that the march would be disruptive, and the village refused to allow it. The American Civil Liberties Union interceded on the behalf of the NSPA in National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie, 432 US 43, and the march was permitted to proceed under court order but they were not permitted to show or wear the swastika.

However, due to the recant of the Marquette Park ban, the NSPA ultimately rallied in Chicago. In 1981, the incident was documented in the network TV movie, "Skokie".

In 1999, Creativity disciple Benjamin Nathaniel Smith went on a shooting spree randomly targeting members of racial and ethnic minorities in drive-by shootings in Illinois and Indiana, during the weekend of 4 July. Among those killed was former Northwestern University basketball coach, Ricky Byrdsong, an African American, near Byrdsong's house in Skokie.

In December 2000, Skokie's courthouse on Old Orchard Road became the stage for yet another anti-Semitic organization, the Ku Klux Klan. Anti-Racist Action and the Jewish Defense League made counter-protests.

Click the link above for the Supreme Court decision affirming their right to March. It's a really brief, Per Curium decision. In the larger sense, however, it really doesn't matter where they marched: In Skokie, Chicago or in the Hasidic stronghold of South Williamsburg, Brooklyn. The pont, as affirmed by the Supreme Court, is that even offensive, Racist scumbags like these have fundemental rights enshrined in the Constitution and, were we to deny these rights to even the most offensive bastards, we would begin to se the unravelling of liberty for the rest of us.

As for Sharpton, if you'd ever had to listen to the joker at length, as I have, living in New York City, you'd know that he has an animus towards cops in general, and white cops in particular. No one but you has suggested that cops are a race unto themselves,

not even in my overwhelmingly Irish neighborhood of West Brighton, Staten Island, where just about everyone is a cop, fireman or other city employee. (I'm one of the latter, in case you were wondering.)

So, Mr. Repression Advocate, whaddaya think?

Bella and her shaved head