LA Direct's All New Low!

Posted by: DE-Evolution

LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/09/08 05:41 PM

Chase Taylor, bar none The Ugliest Woman to ever do porn. Derek Hay really is a sleaze bag for putting these crack whores in the business. They do one shoot every 3 months and hook on Craigslist in the meantime.

I feel bad for the few respectable women in porn that have to share cocks with these staph infected street-junkies.

As a matter of fact, since I am bored, here is a list of every chick in Derek The Flesh Peddler Hay's agency that aren't worthy of any attention outside a frat party or skid row crack alley.

Alana Rae- Fat homely face, ugly tits, flabby ugly body.

Alyssa Dior- Ugly face reminiscent of a monster from NightBreed, deflated small tits, and ugly body.

Angelina Valentine- Atrocious tit job, white trash tats, looks like an ugly arab chick, and a drug user.

Ariel Summers- Kinda looks like Abe Sapien, but is better than those previously mentioned.

Ashley Orion- Body of a boy face of a man.

Audrey Bitoni- A tit job you could pity her for.

August- Breast enhancement abomination.

Bianca Noble- Crack whore, tranny looking, reprehensible tit job, shriveled cunt.

Brandy Talore- Fuckin Fat.

Bridgette B- Ugly bleach bond hair, generally unnattractive, or striking in the least way.

Britney Brighton- Terrible tit job, flapping repulsive meat gash.

Brooke Banner- Weasle looking face, saggy tits, white trash tats, flat ass, and unimpressive.

Brynn Tyler- tiny tits, and too run of the mill looking white chick.

Caresse- Anorexic transexual.

Capri Cavalli- Her head is way too big for her drug sick body, I'll take Racquel Darrian, thanks.

Carmen McCarthy- Face is terrible, oversized crooked nose, and much more to be criticized. Cut off her head and snip her pussy lips, and you can shamelessly fuck her corpse.

Carolyn Reese- Ugly pussy lips that flap in the wind, atleast she has natural tits right?

Cassie Young- Fuckin hooker, thanks for putting everyone at risk because of your greed.

Charisma Capelli- Head to toe ugly, tit job is saddening.

Ahhh, Chase Taylor- The most vile creature, the harbinger of the apocalypse. She proves that we are all going to die very soon, because no one cares.

Chavon Taylor- Fat, fat, fat, and once again, Arby's pussy.

Chelsea LeBrock- Hmm do I fantasize about ugly 12 year olds from Pakistan, or India? No. If I have to tell you why this chick is ugly, I will kill you personally.

Christine Michaels- They're breedin em fine in the trailer park ain't they? Her whole head is fuckin wrong.

Devi Emmerson- I gotta say no to her head. She looks like an ugly elf.

Elli Fox- Why would you want to jack off to someone you made fun of in Highschool? I guess she has a niche in Max Hardcore scenes. I wouldn't even consider her cute. I feel bad for ripping on Mia Rose now...

I forgot Brooke Haven - With shitty veneers, and cauliflower chewing gum hemorrhoid asshole. You are done, and broken, you bitch hooker.

Emilianna- Huge nose, alien looking sicko.

Eva Angelina- Cow with the ugliest pussy ever.

Eve Nicholson- completely fugly and lame looking.

Franziska Facella- Great for the pedophiles.

Gianna Lynn- Breat Augmentation Abomination, and a really sloppy looking pussy. Find a husband, and go away.

Halia Hill- A whole lotta ugly.

Heather Carolin- The world was bad enough with Audrey Hollander, no thanks. She has the five head that Jim B. loves so much on women.

Heidi Mayne- makes you shiver with nausea and disgust.

Hilo- piece of mexican trash.

Ok this is a rigorous task, it is almost dinner time, and so I must take a break to get my appetite back. We really need to boycott these ugly, naturally, and unnaturally deformed skank buckets.









Posted by: Anonymous

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/09/08 05:45 PM

Cue CX3 defending his boy and the only chicks to have him on their Yes lists.
Posted by: destro

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/09/08 05:51 PM

you should consider suicide if you spend this much time critiquing women in pornography.
Posted by: DE-Evolution

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/09/08 05:55 PM

It only took a few minutes, and the criticism is towards Hay for flooding the industry with subhuman sleaze. This entire board is a criticism of women in porn you fuckin dolt.
Posted by: DE-Evolution

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/09/08 05:58 PM

Don't derail the doom train dumbass, get on and destroy!
Posted by: jambajews

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/09/08 07:01 PM

I totally agree. Nice work. These girls are PIGS!!!!!
Posted by: *L*G*

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/09/08 07:06 PM

you forgot their new tranny

Lissa Lipps


http://ladirectmodels.com/view.php?id=226&gender=female
Posted by: destro

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/09/08 08:48 PM

ok i agree, lisa lipps is fucking gross.
Posted by: k1ng

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/09/08 09:00 PM

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you forgot their new tranny

Lissa Lipps


http://ladirectmodels.com/view.php?id=226&gender=female




ugghh.....come on now......seriously?




Posted by: turningblue

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/09/08 09:16 PM

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/09/08 09:18 PM

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you forgot their new tranny

Lissa Lipps


http://ladirectmodels.com/view.php?id=226&gender=female




ugghh.....come on now......seriously?








I would bang her only to see if the rumors are ture.....is it a sexual cannibal???

If I havent posted in week...notify the proper authorities!
Posted by: *L*G*

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/09/08 09:44 PM

I miss the old Lissa



now she looks like Ryan Knox's biological tranny mom






http://cwians.typepad.com/christian_sings_the_blues/
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/09/08 10:12 PM

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I miss the old Lissa



now she looks like Ryan Knox's biological tranny mom






http://cwians.typepad.com/christian_sings_the_blues/




It’s amazing what...the years, drugs, bad plastic surgeries...etc, etc....can do to ya!




You PAID HOW MUCH…for that hack-n-stuff job?
Or
I just saved a bunch of money on my boob job by going to see Dr. hack-n-stuff!
Posted by: *L*G*

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/09/08 10:45 PM

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It’s amazing what...the years, drugs, bad plastic surgeries, tanning access ...etc, etc....can do to ya!








fixed



btw in one of those bad plastic surgeries are man hands implants included ?

Posted by: Bad Habit

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/09/08 11:21 PM

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We really need to boycott these ugly, naturally, and unnaturally deformed skank buckets.




You say po-tay-to I say po-tah-to.

While I agree with *some* of your choices, your tastes are not those of the porn buying public at large, so I think I'll make my own decisions from here on out.

Appreciate you trying to think for me, however. It was a kind gesture.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/09/08 11:24 PM

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It’s amazing what...the years, drugs, bad plastic surgeries, tanning access ...etc, etc....can do to ya!








fixed



btw in one of those bad plastic surgeries are man hands implants included ?






yes...you would have them...if you wanted to work with those basketballs on your chest.
Posted by: spiderman

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 12:57 AM

Great job, but why'd you stop at H?
I don't know if it's just their shitty photographer or if damn near every girl on that site is unremarkable. It's odd since LA Direct is supposed to be the premier agency.

but you're wrong on Audrey Bitoni. I for one, love her horrible fake tits. No pity from me.
Posted by: DE-Evolution

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 11:36 AM

Any tit job looks good in a shirt dude. I feel bad for her cuz she's cute and those tits are awful.

It really is fucked that Derek Hay is turning the industry into a cesspool with all these low grade prostitutes that look like children from The Hills Have Eyes.
Posted by: Bad Habit

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 12:06 PM

133 girls currently listed on his site. YOU have issue with 35 of them and that's why we're supposed to ban together to drive this evil fuck out of business? Get fucking real!

I don't like Derek because he almost single handedly drives performer rates through the roof and refuses to negotiate on those rates.

I've called Derek to get girls on productions where the budgeted rates were one or two hundred less then LA Direct's normal (high) asking rate and been refused only to find out from the girl later that she would have jumped at the chance for the gig but was never even asked about it.
(Hint to Derek: This is exactly why the girls give out their direct numbers)

THAT'S why I don't like Derek. But to take him to task because he offers a huge variety of girls to chose from that meet whatever needs a producer may be looking for...
THAT'S imbecilic.
Posted by: DE-Evolution

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 12:06 PM

I am singling out LA Direct because some believe they are the best agency. Derek Hay is a criminal who collects a fees from the production companies, and from the models. From what I've been told it is one or the other in the industry.

I've heard many first hand accounts from former LA Direct talent complaining about the unethical practices of Derek Hay, and his tweeker disciple Robert, and their filthy English cunt pig Fran whose job is to collect money from their whores.

The performers I have talked to are quite famous and drug free(surprisingly) and I would consider them credible sources. My credibility is in question because of my anonymity, but since I have nothing to gain, that means I am doing this out of charity and chivalry.

I'm an idealist, I'd like to see the whores who deserve it get paid more, and have the right to use condoms in scenes. There was a time when doing this for a living took a little more charisma, and dare I say it, "talent."

Posted by: DE-Evolution

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 12:09 PM

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133 girls currently listed on his site. YOU have issue with 35 of them and that's why we're supposed to ban together to drive this evil fuck out of business? Get fucking real!

I don't like Derek because he almost single handedly drives performer rates through the roof and refuses to negotiate on those rates.

I've called Derek to get girls on productions where the budgeted rates were one or two hundred less then LA Direct's normal (high) asking rate and been refused only to find out from the girl later that she would have jumped at the chance for the gig but was never even asked about it.
(Hint to Derek: This is exactly why the girls give out their direct numbers)

THAT'S why I don't like Derek. But to take him to task because he offers a huge variety of girls to chose from that meet whatever needs a producer may be looking for...
THAT'S imbecilic.





Performers should be paid more, and I don't recall elegant angel, evil angel, redlight, acid rain, or any other popular company ever making a movie called "ugly meth skanks." BTW I'm done witht he list yet, I said that above, nigga got eat, and sleep, and shit, and walk my dogs, damn.
Posted by: DE-Evolution

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 12:22 PM

Here is how I am coming to my conclusions on which chicks are fuckin hideous. I'm a former Marine, therefore, if other Marines wouldn't fuck them, and female Marines look better, then we can all agree that they're fuckin ugly. It'd be nice to see some hot chicks coming into the business instead of lowlife slobs like Derek hires. The minor infection will become an epidemic.

Posted by: Bad Habit

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 12:24 PM

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...but since I have nothing to gain, that means I am doing this out of charity and chivalry.



I assume this also means you are not in the industry and do not hire female performers for adult productions.

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I'd like to see the whores who deserve it get paid more...



The whores already get paid WAY more then they're worth. Why, when everyone else in the industry has had to tighten their belts and cut their rates, are the whores the only ones immune from the current economy?

Production budgets are almost HALF what they were even 5 years ago, yet performer rates have gone up over 30% in that same amount of time.

In any other industry, if you work twice as hard for half the money while the price of "supplies" keeps increasing, you'd go out of business. The girls need to cut their rates like everyone else, then, maybe, they'd start seeing more work and, coincidentally, more money.
Posted by: Bad Habit

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 12:31 PM

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Here is how I am coming to my conclusions on which chicks are fuckin hideous. I'm a former Marine, therefore, if other Marines wouldn't fuck them, and female Marines look better, then we can all agree that they're fuckin ugly. It'd be nice to see some hot chicks coming into the business instead of lowlife slobs like Derek hires. The minor infection will become an epidemic.




Jarhead, that explains a lot. Your not used to thinking on your own so I understand why your having problems using those dusty old brain cells.

But since we're talking "opinions" here and not "facts" I find your use of "hideous" amusing since this is what most Marine wives look like:

Posted by: DE-Evolution

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 12:40 PM

I don't write checks in the industry, I just take photos.
Posted by: DE-Evolution

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 12:44 PM

Dude you know damn well that even if a chick did an anal scene every day for a year, she wouldn't break $400,000. Most of these chicks are struggling, and that's why most of them are hooking. They can't be blamed for pornotube, and other sites of the like.
Posted by: DE-Evolution

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 12:56 PM

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The whores already get paid WAY more then they're worth. Why, when everyone else in the industry has had to tighten their belts and cut their rates, are the whores the only ones immune from the current economy?




The ones who get paid more than what they're worth are the ugly fat ones who can't deepthroat a dick or lick another chicks ass to save their life. I mean fuck man, if you've watched porn for more than 10 years you can still remember Amber Lynn's ass from the 80's. No one is going to give a fuck about Flower Tucci's cottage cheese, stretch marked fat ass in 10 years.

Seka is still hotter than almost anyone who has ever done porn.
Posted by: Bad Habit

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 01:00 PM

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Dude you know damn well that even if a chick did an anal scene every day for a year, she wouldn't break $400,000. Most of these chicks are struggling, and that's why most of them are hooking.



So your justification for insanely high talent rates is because some no talent, uneducated, just-lay-on-your-back-and-get-fucked, whore can barely make a quarter mil a year? Fuck you!

As a producer, my income in the last three years has dropped by more than half, to well under $50K a year, and I'm doing twice the amount of work.
I wish I was "struggling" that badly

So I ask again, why should PW's be immune from the current economy?
Posted by: Bad Habit

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 01:08 PM

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Seka is still hotter than almost anyone who has ever done porn.




Your "opinion" is called into question"



While I would agree that she is "still hotter than almost" any girl married to a Marine, to compare her (as she is now) to the current stock of PW's calls your decision making skills into serious question.

Elegant for a Grandma, yes, but current PW quality?
Posted by: DE-Evolution

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 01:12 PM

They aren't immune, that's why they are hooking haha. However, if LA Direct is negotiating the same rates for new, ugly, non talented, and unestablished performers then we see eye to eye on that problem.

Interesting point. You have to pity them because they cannot organize or speak out. Men all over the world dream of them, and if they only knew how empty and powerless most of them are... there are very few that are making over 10 G's a month anymore.
Posted by: DE-Evolution

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 01:13 PM

Young Seka I mean, come for fucks sake... I shouldve worded that better.
Posted by: DE-Evolution

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 01:15 PM

Will you delete that shit it is completely off topic haha.
Posted by: Bad Habit

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 01:19 PM

OK, we agree to disagree. We both do not like LA Direct, but for every different reasons; you because of the girls, me because of the gestapo fascist way Derek runs it.


BTW, I'm ex-Navy which is why I came down so hard on the Marine aspect. Some friendly inter-service bashing. Semper Fi, dude.
Posted by: DE-Evolution

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 01:31 PM

I agree with you on Derek Hays Nazi war crimes... I've been on set with too many chicks that are actually decent drug free and responsible performers that used to be with his agency and they all have the same complaints.

If not young Seka, than young Christy Canyon, no one hotter than that!
Posted by: DE-Evolution

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 02:24 PM

On with the slag!

Holly West- don't know her work, but she is kinda frumpy looking like Katja. I'm going to leave this one to your personal taste.

Holly Morgan- Not completely vile, but I don't like her face, she looks like a burnt out czech street hooker. Definitely below average in looks, which is the problem.

Holly Halston- She should've have used her tit job money on rhinoplasty. There's no saving this chick, she's sunk. Flabby body, muscular arms, and an ugly mannish face.

Jada Stevens- Ok, Derek must have a fuckin big nose fetish, because this deformity is becoming all too common amongst his flock. Beefy gash, and she looks like one of Santa's Elves.

Jassie- She's weird lookin, but she's been in the biz for a while, so the fans must like her for some reason.

Jayden Jaymes- I'm gonna need a consensus on her, because she seems to have good dental hygiene, but her tit job is lacking.

Jazel Tay- There are so many levels of deformed creature here. She's another who looks like Abe Sapien, and all jokes aside, what the fuck is she pregnant with? Yuck, fuckin gross! I wanna barf now ahh that's better.

Jennifer Dark- Looks like a lot of other crackhead skinny bitches. Like Shy Love and Jenna Presley combined.

Kacey Jordan- An uglier Jasmine Byrne with bleach blonde hair, no ass, and pretty lame looking. Her fucking flat chest is gross.

Kaiya Lynn- Been around a while, fat belly, flat ass, and looks like a chipmunk. Should disappoint any asian lover.

Kayla Paige- She looks like a skinnier and less evolved Stevens sister. Like some sort of Amazon Jungle tranny.

Kayme Kai- Ugly, flabby, stumpy, midget arms, butterface, yuck, no, never! From here on out, any chick with a nose like Jennifer Anniston is on my "no" list.

Kissy Kapri- Annorexic Brooke Haven, how do you get flap jacks tits age 20 yrs old, and she has zits on her ass in one of the photos. A low class stripper at best.

Kitty- Not my type, but people like her, and she doesn't do drugs so that's good enough.

LaRin Lane- Anita Cannibal is better looking than this chik, seriously. She is a combination of everything that is wrong with every chick I've described on here.

Laurie Vargus- For your chubby mexican teenager fantasies.

Leighlani Red- Not ugly, but looks all to common, and isn't as attractive as Tianna Lynn whom she resembles.

Lichelle Marie- ugly prosthetic barely human.

Lila James- Weird body, short legs, and looks like a latin general laborer.

Lisa DeMarco- Brawny Antia Cannibal looking bitch. Does she have fake cheekbone implants? On her road to looking like that NYC Cat Lady.

Lisa Lipps- Could make a goat puke.

Lucy Fire- If you've ever fantasized about Tyla Wynn having a little sister with tiny tits, then this is your girl. Ugly flame tattoo by her ugly chewed up pussy too...

Mia Lelani- Ugly fuckin fat body, you can see her arm hair gleaming in the light, and once again, a forehead only Jim B. could love. Overall ugly chick, a fat asian Phoebe Cates.

Monroe Valentino- should've called herself Brianna Skanks. Anyway, if you like tatted up white trash with oddly shaped heads, this is your girl!

Mya Nichole- Fake lips and tits, has a slight camel appearance, ugly tats, just weird lookin.

Nika Noire- What's with so many of these girls having abnormally broad torsos? Not tis, and boring looking.

Nikki Benz- Well known hooker.

Nikki Vee- Pouty lips in one pic, but you can definitely tell she is white trash, she has no curves (flat ass), and she looks like a retarded babysitter.

Paris Marie- Fat skinny, and titless at the same time. Brawny looking face, not feminine.

Pharyn Sparks- Fat stomach, kinda manly lookin too. Ive seen better looking trannies in the Philippines.

Phoenix Marie- She has Belladonna head and teeth, and a really ugly belly button. Looks like Katja and Belladonna mixed in one pic.

Rebecca Blue- The white Veronica Jett...

Ricki Raxxx- And you thought Sandra Romain was ugly? This chick looks so weasely, no thanks. What ethnicity is she? Ugly nose and bad tats. Another one that should've got rhinoplasty instead of an enormous tit job.

Robyn Truelove- Her fuckin choppers have multiple household uses, that's for sure. Can any male talent verify if she has scraped the herpes of your dick with those fuckin teeth? Whoever did her tit job was trying to put her nipples in her ribcage too, interesting.

Ryan Keely- Her body is fucking awful, face is below average. Slight Lisa Marie Presley, not hot, that's for sure. Ugggh...

Sara Faye- The only chick that actually needs collagen and breast implants, and her chin is too prominent for me. She has a brawny neck as well, looks like a wrestler.

Satine Phoenix- Was once thick, and is now fat. These photos are old. She has the butterface thing going as well. I haven't seen a good scene of her yet.

Savanah Gold- Manly trainwreck face. tranny looking fake blonde. No sex appeal in her face at all, she looks like an old jewish man to me.

Savannah Stern- Can you get any more brawny than this chick? I would say if you logs split, she is good for that, definitely no good for droppin loads.

Scarlett Pain- She has multi layers of ugly. She kinda resembles Kat, but then when you look at her longer even more things go wrong than that. Schmooshed face gnome woman.

Scarlett Fay- The crackwhore next door with a five-head and nothing more.

Shay Lynn- She has the funniest looking tit job ever. Overly hard jawline, gap in her teeth and ugly tats. She does not make the cut. I pity anyone who endures the depression she feel from her freakish disfiguring tit job.

Shayne Ryder- I've never been into people with the facial features of pigs. She kind of has that pig nose. I looked at like 5 of her pics, and nothing can save her.

Sienna West- Ugly, and I am into ethnic women.

Sindee Jennings- Heard she was alright to work with, but that fucking lord of the rings tramp stamp is way too weird for me. Also, I don;t like her tits, they are really small, but have stretch marks on them somehow.

Sophia Lomeli- Fat, fake tits, some sort of weird texture on her stomach from the fat. I think I would pay someone 50 bucks not to fuck her. I am guessing she's a stripper from downtown LA.

Sophie Del Mar- Non sexy asian, and in a few of the pics, she looks like a dude. Yeah she definitely looks like a ladyboy.

Stephanie Richards- She is another sibling of the Stevens sisters, except she has no tits, and has no validation for trying to be in porn.

Tanya James- just kinda ugly in general.

Tessa West- Maybe average looking, she still kinda has a powerful jawline, which diminishes her femininity.

Tori Black- Another chick who is fat and skinny at the same time. She looks like Jassie except lacking in charisma and freckles. She is not needed because we already have Jassie...

Trinity Post- The fans have to decide on this one. Not my type at all, but...

Finally we have Veronique Vega- If I were Derek I would ask her "why is your nose bigger than your breasts?" Chick is ugly. I love the latin women, but I can't force myself to whack to her.


That concludes the current list of LA Directs most below average, unattractive, freakishly deformed, bland, and repetitious women. Have you scraped the bottom of the barrel yet Derek, or can you find more sub par skanks not worth an 1/8th of weed and a whip hit. Is that how you spell whip hit, or is whip it? I don't know, never done one.

Posted by: ben

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 07:16 PM

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Kitty- Not my type, but people like her, and she doesn't do drugs so that's good enough.






Kitty is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: *L*G*

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 09:24 PM

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Kitty- Not my type, but people like her, and she doesn't do drugs so that's good enough.










Kitty is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!










finally she done her boob job, she is the only one in porn who really need it fake boobs
Posted by: Holly Randall

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/10/08 11:01 PM

I gotta agree with Bad Habit here... and it's not that I don't feel that the girls don't deserve the rates they are asking. But with the current economy, it's becoming more difficult to pay these rates. I'm working more on trade shoots, since so many girls have websites. That seems to work fairly well-- they get free high quality content for their sites, and I get to lower my production budget a bit. All of the agents, including Derek, have been pretty fair with us in helping to negotiate rates/trade. I don't want to undercut the girls in any way, but times are really tough right now, and everyone is feeling it. And BTW, some of the girls that have been listed as "ugly" I've gotten some pretty great shoots on... I'll post a few samples a little later in the week.
Posted by: Voltron Zunediggle

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/11/08 07:26 AM

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133 girls currently listed on his site. YOU have issue with 35 of them and that's why we're supposed to ban together to drive this evil fuck out of business? Get fucking real!

I don't like Derek because he almost single handedly drives performer rates through the roof and refuses to negotiate on those rates.

I've called Derek to get girls on productions where the budgeted rates were one or two hundred less then LA Direct's normal (high) asking rate and been refused only to find out from the girl later that she would have jumped at the chance for the gig but was never even asked about it.
(Hint to Derek: This is exactly why the girls give out their direct numbers)

THAT'S why I don't like Derek. But to take him to task because he offers a huge variety of girls to chose from that meet whatever needs a producer may be looking for...
THAT'S imbecilic.





Pure poetry.... Bottom line. This whole thread is one of the best I've read on here. Habit's speaking directly from the front lines on this issue, and grounding some solid points. This whole topic is gold.
Posted by: DE-Evolution

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/11/08 09:49 AM

But Holly you and your mom can make almost any chick look great. If you look at the photos of the above mentioned specimens on LA Direct they make the whole industry look bad. Ugly chicks are being disillusioned into thinking they can become "stars." Then much like Sierra Sinn, they have breakdown after breakdown. I respect someone who isn't pretty but has self confidence, however, I don't respect false ego which is the main affliction of LA lifestyles.
Posted by: DE-Evolution

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/11/08 09:50 AM

I never said anything bad about Kitty. Just said she's not my type, and I've met her a few times and I know she doesn't do drugs.

Posted by: TheBillyvassi

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/11/08 10:15 AM

wow. " a few times" and you know she doesnt do drugs.

your powers of perception are mighty indeed sir.

Posted by: christianxxx

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/11/08 01:21 PM

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...but since I have nothing to gain, that means I am doing this out of charity and chivalry.



I assume this also means you are not in the industry and do not hire female performers for adult productions.

Quote:

I'd like to see the whores who deserve it get paid more...



The whores already get paid WAY more then they're worth. Why, when everyone else in the industry has had to tighten their belts and cut their rates, are the whores the only ones immune from the current economy?

Production budgets are almost HALF what they were even 5 years ago, yet performer rates have gone up over 30% in that same amount of time.

In any other industry, if you work twice as hard for half the money while the price of "supplies" keeps increasing, you'd go out of business. The girls need to cut their rates like everyone else, then, maybe, they'd start seeing more work and, coincidentally, more money.




thats false and you know it. do you think derek is an idiot? if he has the rate set at something then there are people that are paying it. just because YOU can't afford to pay it, doesn't meant that there are other people who can.
Posted by: Ogie Oglethorpe

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/11/08 01:24 PM

^^^ Nice to see you took Derek's dick out of your mouth long enough to voice your opinion.
Posted by: ben

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/11/08 03:33 PM

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I don't like Derek because he almost single handedly drives performer rates through the roof and refuses to negotiate on those rates.

I've called Derek to get girls on productions where the budgeted rates were one or two hundred less then LA Direct's normal (high) asking rate and been refused only to find out from the girl later that she would have jumped at the chance for the gig but was never even asked about it.
(Hint to Derek: This is exactly why the girls give out their direct numbers)

THAT'S why I don't like Derek.




This is why performers sign up to LA Direct - because they know that Derek will look after them moneywise. If they were genuinely unhappy with this situation then they can always leave the agency
Posted by: pornlaw

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/11/08 05:15 PM

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If they were genuinely unhappy with this situation then they can always leave the agency




Actually thats not true. Almost all of the legal talent agencies that are licensed and bonded with the state use a Division of Labor Standards and Enforcement approved contract that appears to be exclusive. So many of the performers that are unhappy with their agent are told they cant leave until their contract is up.

I get a lot of phone calls from performers looking to get out of their agency's contract.
Posted by: Bad Habit

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/11/08 05:22 PM

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The whores already get paid WAY more then they're worth. Why, when everyone else in the industry has had to tighten their belts and cut their rates, are the whores the only ones immune from the current economy?

Production budgets are almost HALF what they were even 5 years ago, yet performer rates have gone up over 30% in that same amount of time.

In any other industry, if you work twice as hard for half the money while the price of "supplies" keeps increasing, you'd go out of business. The girls need to cut their rates like everyone else, then, maybe, they'd start seeing more work and, coincidentally, more money.




thats false and you know it.




What's False? That budgets are half what they were 5 years ago? That porn sales are down overall? That everyone in the industry (except pw's) are working for significantly less then they used to?
Apparently being male doesn't exclude you from being a stupid whore.

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do you think derek is an idiot? if he has the rate set at something then there are people that are paying it. just because YOU can't afford to pay it, doesn't meant that there are other people who can.




No, I think he's a fascist and just because there is some moron out there with more cash then brains and is stupid enough to pay $2300 for an anal girl, it does not justify raising every girl's rate to $1600 and then NOT negotiating when the girls are MORE THAN WILLING to do it for $1200

And, yes, while Derek gets them top dollar, this limits the girls to the big studios. The independent producers are priced out and the girls work less and therefore earn less money overall.

If I had an agency fee for every time a girl said she'd have done the gig for the offered rate if she been told about it, my house would be paid for!

Go post about something you actually know about like how you can't keep your dick hard in a boy/girl without caverject injections.

Posted by: Fuckstick

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/11/08 06:21 PM

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On with the slag!

Holly West- don't know her work, but she is kinda frumpy looking like Katja. I'm going to leave this one to your personal taste.






I agree with 98% of your list...but Holly West is anything but frumpy...
Posted by: Sho'nuff

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/11/08 06:36 PM

And you had to quote that wall of text for your one line reply?
Posted by: Fuckstick

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/11/08 06:39 PM

and you had to reply...jackass
Posted by: Dick Dastardly

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/11/08 07:11 PM

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I don't like Derek because he almost single handedly drives performer rates through the roof and refuses to negotiate on those rates.




Living the pimp lifestyle ain't cheap, ya dig? The more he charges for his whores, the larger cut he takes home as well.

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Production budgets are almost HALF what they were even 5 years ago, yet performer rates have gone up over 30% in that same amount of time.




Habit, it's called the cost of living. And you ought to know whores, the cost of their living is fucking outrageous. Only a sugar daddy can help most of the whores in this recession.

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But Holly you and your mom can make almost any chick look great. If you look at the photos of the above mentioned specimens on LA Direct they make the whole industry look bad. Ugly chicks are being disillusioned into thinking they can become "stars." Then much like Sierra Sinn, they have breakdown after breakdown. I respect someone who isn't pretty but has self confidence, however, I don't respect false ego which is the main affliction of LA lifestyles.




Lest we not forget the scabbed-knee photos of Tory Lane a year or two ago. How the fuck could you let those photos be published? It looked like she just got done a circlejerk blowbang without kneepads.
Posted by: Richard Hungwell

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/11/08 08:16 PM

What a fuckin goof...!!

So who do you consider a decent whore...???


Porn stars are supposed to look rough,,,,Why do you think some of the uglier beaters are more popular..

It ain't rocket fucking science,,but obviously it's way beyond your level of comprehension ...

Oh.! And by the way could you shut the Fuck-Up,,Goof....???
Posted by: christianxxx

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/12/08 12:57 AM

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If they were genuinely unhappy with this situation then they can always leave the agency




Actually thats not true. Almost all of the legal talent agencies that are licensed and bonded with the state use a Division of Labor Standards and Enforcement approved contract that appears to be exclusive. So many of the performers that are unhappy with their agent are told they cant leave until their contract is up.

I get a lot of phone calls from performers looking to get out of their agency's contract.




and how did you do trying to fight derek on the girls contracts again? refresh my memory on that? lol
Posted by: Bad Habit

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/12/08 02:22 AM

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If they were genuinely unhappy with this situation then they can always leave the agency




Actually thats not true. Almost all of the legal talent agencies that are licensed and bonded with the state use a Division of Labor Standards and Enforcement approved contract that appears to be exclusive. So many of the performers that are unhappy with their agent are told they cant leave until their contract is up.

I get a lot of phone calls from performers looking to get out of their agency's contract.




and how did you do trying to fight derek on the girls contracts again? refresh my memory on that? lol




You just made his point, Huckleberry.

He probably couldn't win because of the contractual obligation, hence the girls CAN'T just up and leave without serious legal issues.

Unfucking believeable. It's like a Bugs Bunny cartoon...
"....Rabbit Season. Duck Season, FIRE!..... Blam!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRg158Fzxw0
Posted by: Fenris

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/12/08 05:49 AM

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You just made his point, Huckleberry.

He probably couldn't win because of the contractual obligation, hence the girls CAN'T just up and leave without serious legal issues.






Not trying to raise shit here, just trying to understand the situation.

If the girl is in a contract with an agent to make money, the agent gets his cut. If someone contacts the girl directly about shooting a scene, and the girl says yes, so long as the agent gets his cut, what's the problem? Everyone is entitled to make a living, and the agent can't tell the girls who they can or can't work with, right? If he did tell the girl, 'You can't work with Jackie Fuckface because I don't like him.', isn't that breach of contract?

I'm probably oversimplifying things, I know, I just don't understand all this drama over agents. To the best of my knowledge the most an agent can charge anyone is 15%, and if he's actively preventing a girl from getting work because of his own agenda, then he's automatically in breach.

I could be entirely full of shit on those points though. most of what I know about contract law comes from what I researched when I was looking for an agent of my own. (A writing agent, not a porn agent. You guys do not want to see me naked.)

Fenris
Posted by: pornlaw

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/12/08 06:32 AM

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and how did you do trying to fight derek on the girls contracts again? refresh my memory on that? lol




Refresh my memory...when did I file a suit against Derek or LA Direct ? Never have... Not sure what gossip you heard.

The only thing you might have heard is in reference to one particular performer. Derek and his lawyer came to my office to discuss problems she was having and Derek agreed to work with her and to change his policies.
Posted by: lance69

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/12/08 10:40 AM

It's a little off topic but it seems especially in the Adult industry it seems people forget whom works for who. (Not sure if the grammar is right but fuck it) An agent works for the Talent not the other way around. Too bad performers aren't smart enough to realize that and avoid bad contracts, and don't leave room for an exit strategy. That's something you need in any contract.
I don't know about in California but up here if an agent can't provide you enough work to make a living then exclusivity in an agreement is unenforceable.
Posted by: pornlaw

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/12/08 11:32 AM

Lance -- the contracts are standard and they are written by California's Division of Labor Standards and Enforcement. They have a clause that states they are exclusive and all the agent has to do is get you work every 4 months for it to remain exclusive. Its not a contract a girl can avoid if she wants to be represented by any of the state licensed and bonded agencies.
Posted by: lance69

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/12/08 11:50 AM

Thanks for the info...
But hell once every four months?!? Might as well put a collar on them and whip them when they done wrong... Jesus. In non-legalese that's fucked. How the hell did something like that get signed in to law? Isn't it supposed to be "for the people" not "fuck the people" right?
Posted by: Dick Dastardly

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/12/08 09:48 PM

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Unfucking believeable. It's like a Bugs Bunny cartoon...
"....Rabbit Season. Duck Season, FIRE!..... Blam!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRg158Fzxw0




I needed a good fucking laugh at this late hour.
Posted by: Choda Boy

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/12/08 10:40 PM

hey DE-Evolution ... you overlooked Lexi Belle.

just an error?

Posted by: ASHLI ORION

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/27/08 04:00 AM

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Ashley Orion- Body of a boy face of a man.






hell ya kid... you know you'd hit it!
Posted by: Iluvcookie

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/27/08 04:41 AM

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The whores already get paid WAY more then they're worth. Why, when everyone else in the industry has had to tighten their belts and cut their rates, are the whores the only ones immune from the current economy?

Production budgets are almost HALF what they were even 5 years ago, yet performer rates have gone up over 30% in that same amount of time.

In any other industry, if you work twice as hard for half the money while the price of "supplies" keeps increasing, you'd go out of business. The girls need to cut their rates like everyone else, then, maybe, they'd start seeing more work and, coincidentally, more money.




thats false and you know it.




What's False? That budgets are half what they were 5 years ago? That porn sales are down overall? That everyone in the industry (except pw's) are working for significantly less then they used to?
Apparently being male doesn't exclude you from being a stupid whore.

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do you think derek is an idiot? if he has the rate set at something then there are people that are paying it. just because YOU can't afford to pay it, doesn't meant that there are other people who can.




No, I think he's a fascist and just because there is some moron out there with more cash then brains and is stupid enough to pay $2300 for an anal girl, it does not justify raising every girl's rate to $1600 and then NOT negotiating when the girls are MORE THAN WILLING to do it for $1200

And, yes, while Derek gets them top dollar, this limits the girls to the big studios. The independent producers are priced out and the girls work less and therefore earn less money overall.

If I had an agency fee for every time a girl said she'd have done the gig for the offered rate if she been told about it, my house would be paid for!

Go post about something you actually know about like how you can't keep your dick hard in a boy/girl without caverject injections.






Is that Gene Hackman
Posted by: Bon Vivant

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/27/08 05:34 AM

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But hell once every four months?!? Might as well put a collar on them and whip them when they done wrong... Jesus. In non-legalese that's fucked. How the hell did something like that get signed in to law? Isn't it supposed to be "for the people" not "fuck the people" right?



The law was no doubt written for the legitimate movie business, not porno. If your agent gets you a real movie once every four months, you'd be on Easy Street. Most SAG members spend more time as waiters than movie stars.

And no offense to the producers here, but while it's bad for you, LA Direct having firm high rates for the performers clearly benefits them. Even if in theory they could make more by working more at a lower rate: they would risk overexposure, they would be taking more turns at the STD/other work hazard roulette -- they may end up shortening their career and making less overall in the long term.

And no matter what your job -- if you can make $100K working one day a week, vs. 125K working 4/5 days a week, which would you choose? Many would choose to work less.

Posted by: The Ghost Is Toast

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/27/08 04:45 PM

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Is that Gene Hackman?




No, it's a young Luiz Felipe Scolari, AKA 'Big Phil', manager of Chelsea and part-time Gene Hackman impersonator.

Posted by: Monstar

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/27/08 04:50 PM

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hey DE-Evolution ... you overlooked Lexi Belle.

just an error?






even the most bitterest of fan boys has a favorite.
Posted by: Hyde

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 08/27/08 08:01 PM

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No one is going to give a fuck about Flower Tucci's cottage cheese, stretch marked fat ass in 10 years.





Sweet Jesus! Wtf happened???








Posted by: Walrus

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/26/08 05:27 PM

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Mya Nichole- Fake lips and tits, has a slight camel appearance, ugly tats, just weird lookin.





just found an "old" video of hers. Besides the stupid looking tats she looked great. What happened to her?

Old Mya

New Mya
Posted by: evilskull

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/27/08 07:24 PM

Nick Fucking Manning happened, I hear tell.
Posted by: dippy

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/29/08 04:40 PM

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If they were genuinely unhappy with this situation then they can always leave the agency




Actually thats not true. Almost all of the legal talent agencies that are licensed and bonded with the state use a Division of Labor Standards and Enforcement approved contract that appears to be exclusive. So many of the performers that are unhappy with their agent are told they cant leave until their contract is up.

I get a lot of phone calls from performers looking to get out of their agency's contract.





ANY contract that calls for a person to work in unsafe and hazardous conditions is unenforceable. California law regarding blood borne pathogen exposure, like it or not, apply to the adult industry. The standard "Labor Board" contract does not allow for working in unsafe conditions. On shelley lubens website there used to be(it might still be there) a 'notification' form tos send to an agency in order to break your contract. Dont let any INDUSTRY sawyer tell you that you are sutck in a contradct that calls for you to work in unsafe conditions. It is simply not true.

The brooke ashley workers comp case settled all of this last year.
Posted by: pornlaw

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/29/08 06:04 PM

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ANY contract that calls for a person to work in unsafe and hazardous conditions is unenforceable. California law regarding blood borne pathogen exposure, like it or not, apply to the adult industry. The standard "Labor Board" contract does not allow for working in unsafe conditions. On shelley lubens website there used to be(it might still be there) a 'notification' form tos send to an agency in order to break your contract. Dont let any INDUSTRY sawyer tell you that you are sutck in a contradct that calls for you to work in unsafe conditions. It is simply not true.

The brooke ashley workers comp case settled all of this last year.




The problem you have is that the contract will not call for the performer to work in a unsafe environment -- the producer will. Privity of contract is between the performer and the agent. Thus, unless the agent forces the performer to work in an unsafe environment, she cannot not unilaterally void her contract. She will still have to prove she was forced to work under unsafe conditions at a hearing.

What I will say is that if an agent forces a performer to do a scene that she opts not to complete because of her concern for her health or safety, (ie., the male talent has an obvious infection) that agent can lose that performer as well as his/her agency license if the Labor Board found the agents behavior to be egregious.

And the last time I checked Shelly Lubben was a former PW and hadnt graduated from law school. She probably shouldnt be giving legal advice since it may be considered to be practicing law without a license by the State Bar of California. So if you know Ms. Lubben personally, you may want to tell her to stick to saving souls - at least that doesnt require 7 yrs of education and bar exam.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/29/08 06:12 PM

Maybe Sharon Mitchell's school is selling ... uh, I mean, conferring ... law degrees now ...

Posted by: dippy

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/30/08 03:30 PM

The types of acts to be performed are discussed with the agent BEFORE the shoot, and that is how the amount of money paid to the performer is determined. The agent knows BEFOREHAND the situation,(no comdoms,no blood borne pathogen protection) the perfomer is to work under. Once an agent sends a performer to a shoot that he knows is illegal, the performer will have no problem having any "contract" with that agent voided. It is common knowledge that you cannot 'agree' to violate the law.
It is the agent who negotioates with the producer/director on behalf of his client(performer). The agent knows what the situation will be. Or the agent could lie and say he didnt know what was going on, in which case, he aint much of an agent.

A vast majority of porn performer/porn agent "contracts' are not worth the paper they are prited on.
Posted by: dippy

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/30/08 03:42 PM

Privity of contract is between performer and agent.....

The contract is for the agent to procure LEGAL work for the performer. ANY job that requires someone to work in violation of OSHA regulations is not legal. Because the agent negotiates beforehand and knows the work requires violation of OSHA regulations the 'conrtact' is worthless.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/30/08 04:04 PM

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the work requires violation of OSHA regulations the 'conrtact' is worthless.




Especially if contract is misspelled ...
Posted by: dippy

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/30/08 04:34 PM

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the work requires violation of OSHA regulations the 'conrtact' is worthless.




Especially if contract is misspelled ...







Coming from somone who has enough time to have over 8000 posts on a porn discussion board, I wouldnt expect you to have anything more intellignet to say other than pointing out spelling errors. How many hours of your obviously miserable life have you spent here? Sad indeed. Now pull up your pants and get out the baby wipes. You are truely pathetic. Maybe next year you will get invited to a christmas party in West Covina.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/30/08 05:06 PM

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Coming from somone who has enough time to have over 8000 posts on a porn discussion board, I wouldnt expect you to have anything more intellignet to say other than pointing out spelling errors




I'm intelligent enough to spell "intelligent" correctly!




Nothing says "moron" more than defending a misspelled post with a misspelled post.

Santa forgot to give you a sense of humor. Fucking tragedy.



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Now pull up your pants and get out the baby wipes.




Sorry. For whatever reason, I can only jerk off lying down, and I use two hands to type. So, I'm not jerking while typing.



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How many hours of your obviously miserable life have you spent here?




Most of it I've spend waiting for files to download. That's actually more of a waste. But, I've spent none of it being oversensitive about someone catching a typo.

<< You, about a TYPO!



What's your damage? Ass hurt much? Daddy touch you? Or was it Mommy?



Get a grip. << And, Kiss IT!!!
Posted by: LouCypher

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/30/08 06:25 PM

Drippy is in for a rough ride. It fucked up when it mouthed off to Mr 2cit. Then it showed an inherent ability to be a total fuckwad. In less than 30 posts. I like your odds Drippy.
Posted by: pornlaw

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/30/08 06:47 PM

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The types of acts to be performed are discussed with the agent BEFORE the shoot, and that is how the amount of money paid to the performer is determined. The agent knows BEFOREHAND the situation,(no comdoms,no blood borne pathogen protection) the perfomer is to work under. Once an agent sends a performer to a shoot that he knows is illegal, the performer will have no problem having any "contract" with that agent voided. It is common knowledge that you cannot 'agree' to violate the law.




And your law degree is from where ???
Posted by: GUAPO

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/30/08 06:51 PM

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The types of acts to be performed are discussed with the agent BEFORE the shoot, and that is how the amount of money paid to the performer is determined. The agent knows BEFOREHAND the situation,(no comdoms,no blood borne pathogen protection) the perfomer is to work under. Once an agent sends a performer to a shoot that he knows is illegal, the performer will have no problem having any "contract" with that agent voided. It is common knowledge that you cannot 'agree' to violate the law.




And your law degree is from where ???




probably the same place you got yours... a cracker jack box.
Posted by: pornlaw

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/30/08 06:54 PM

Yes it was a $250,000 cracker jack box -- but it was well worth it.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/30/08 07:00 PM

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And your law degree is from where ???




drippy says he works in the porn industry. So I assume his got his JD from the Institute for Advanced Study of Human Sexuality [aka, The Mitchell Institute of Fake Degrees].

And, I'm quite sure he's passed out at a California bar.




But, don't fight with him, Michael. He has info about the biz that none of us have ever known. PLUS, like he did to Lou, he'll make fun of your 8000 posts!!

Posted by: christianxxx

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/30/08 08:42 PM

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Yes it was a $250,000 cracker jack box -- but it was well worth it.




because now you date vanessa blue and represent girls who have 10 bucks to their name in horseshit lawsuits? really, that makes it all worthwhile.

i like a man who has goals. some lawyers dream of arguing important cases, or making a difference in the community, and some just want a free blowjob from a girl looking to get out of her agent contract.
Posted by: Smokey

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/30/08 09:26 PM

Vanessa Blue is fucking gross
Posted by: Mark_J

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/30/08 09:57 PM

Posted by: Vice Admiral

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/30/08 11:42 PM

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Yes it was a $250,000 cracker jack box -- but it was well worth it.




because now you date vanessa blue and represent girls who have 10 bucks to their name in horseshit lawsuits? really, that makes it all worthwhile.

i like a man who has goals. some lawyers dream of arguing important cases, or making a difference in the community, and some just want a free blowjob from a girl looking to get out of her agent contract.




Don't be mean, Christian. Fattorosi graduated from Whittier Law School, which is an ABA-accredited law school somewhere in Orange County. It's ranked in the lowest tier of the US News and World Report law school rankings, but that survey is generally bullshit. What that usually means is that a law school like Whittier has relatively open admissions (elitist lawyers and judges value those schools which wouldn't let them in again), and then works its students hard to make good lawyers out of them. Those of us from top law schools dismiss the Whittier crowd at our peril.

According to WLS's website, 83% of its graduates passed the California bar the first time. My school's record is about 95%, which is not all that much better when you really think about it. The California bar is hard.

What I don't understand is how Fattorosi spent $250,000 at Whittier, unless he's counting the money he wasted going to American University. Whittier's tuition is $30K and room & board $11K. Shit, dude, if you're going to go to an average (or below-average) school, go to a cheap one. State colleges offer great value in this way.

As for Vanessa Blue, I've rubbed one out many a day while high as a kite, imagining her choking down my man-chowder.
Posted by: pornlaw

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/31/08 01:07 AM

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Yes it was a $250,000 cracker jack box -- but it was well worth it.




because now you date vanessa blue and represent girls who have 10 bucks to their name in horseshit lawsuits? really, that makes it all worthwhile.

i like a man who has goals. some lawyers dream of arguing important cases, or making a difference in the community, and some just want a free blowjob from a girl looking to get out of her agent contract.




Seriously ??? Werent you a teacher at some higher point in your life ? You gave up teaching -- or perhaps you were forced out of your job, but either way you end up having sex with anything with a pulse and you thrown stones???

Nothing is more noble than teaching... and now your goals are what exactly ?? 22 scenes a month ?

Perhaps a little self reflection is warranted on your part before you start judging.

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It's ranked in the lowest tier of the US News and World Report law school rankings, but that survey is generally bullshit. What that usually means is that a law school like Whittier has relatively open admissions (elitist lawyers and judges value those schools which wouldn't let them in again), and then works its students hard to make good lawyers out of them. Those of us from top law schools dismiss the Whittier crowd at our peril.




Sure I wish I could have gone to a top ranked law school, but my father died after a long drawn out battle with cancer in my junior/senior year of college. I left school to take care of him and it killed my GPA and I had to settle for Whittier. I will take private over public all day long...
Posted by: JRV

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/31/08 01:27 AM

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According to WLS's website, 83% of its graduates passed the California bar the first time. My school's record is about 95%, which is not all that much better when you really think about it. The California bar is hard.




Don't make too much of bar exam rates. The bar exam generally tests state law. Some schools focus solely on that and get good pass rates. Other school put more emphasis on federal and law for multinational companies. A college roommate of mine went into multinational M&A after graduating and said that virtually none of his time in law school applied to the state bar exam...
Posted by: Vice Admiral

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/31/08 01:30 AM

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According to WLS's website, 83% of its graduates passed the California bar the first time. My school's record is about 95%, which is not all that much better when you really think about it. The California bar is hard.




Don't make too much of bar exam rates. The bar exam generally tests state law. Some schools focus solely on that and get good pass rates. Other school put more emphasis on federal and law for multinational companies. A college roommate of mine went into multinational M&A after graduating and said that virtually none of his time in law school applied to the state bar exam...




My practice is corporate practice with an international focus and includes a large M&A component. This is on target, of course, but neglects the fact that what Fattorosi does is closer to "real lawyering" than what I do. I'm a generalized business consultant, really -- never seen the inside of a courtroom except for my own arraignment, and that's the way I plan to keep it!
Posted by: pornlaw

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/31/08 01:49 AM

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Don't make too much of bar exam rates. The bar exam generally tests state law. Some schools focus solely on that and get good pass rates.




Whittier has horrible passage rates... however, I didnt think that bar was really that difficult. But that was 12 yrs ago, I know the bar examiners have recently cranked it up and its getting more difficult. Even the grads from the top ranked schools arent passing on the first go-around now.

As for "real lawyering" in this industry... I have the utmost respect for Paul Cambria, Jeff Douglas, Alan Gelbard, Greg Piccionelli, Louis Sirkin, Clyde DeWitt, Larry Walters and all of the attorneys that defend First Amendment rights. Defending the Constitution as they do is something I do aspire to. We are in the process of filing/litigating our first, First Amendment claim. It is a steep learning curve though.
Posted by: hollywest

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/24/09 05:22 PM

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On with the slag!

Holly West- don't know her work, but she is kinda frumpy looking like Katja. I'm going to leave this one to your personal taste.





Motha Fucka
Posted by: Vice Admiral

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/31/09 06:21 AM

I'd just like to say that I rubbed one (okay, two) out today watching Vanessa Blue suck and fuck some white dude. Fattorosi's nailing that chick? Good for him.

Does she do privates?
Posted by: christianxxx

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/31/09 09:05 AM

Bro, I just want to say that Vanessa was one of my favorite girls to work with ever for Naughty America. Oh baby

Posted by: RenfieldGyps

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/31/09 10:42 AM

Holly West is not dumpy looking, she's a very pretty girl with nice boobies.....leave her alone people. Different strokes for different folks, I'd love to see what some of your girlfriends and wives look like. So Judgemental.....look at home first people.
Posted by: †††

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/10/10 05:53 AM

bump


Congratulations for your award Dane, you'll be ashamed of it in 10 years!


for Fatman


for Fat Fans


E for eeeeeeeeeee





Otto Bauer lost his credibility


wrote:

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Kitty is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!








Kitty Hussein
Posted by: duckduckgoose

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/10/10 09:50 AM

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E for eeeeeeeeeee





Wow, Eva Angelina is looking rough. She could pass for 50 in that photo.
Posted by: electrostatic

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/10/10 01:49 PM

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E for eeeeeeeeeee





Wow, Eva Angelina is looking rough. She could pass for 50 in that photo.



Whoever did her makeup should NEVER do anyone's makeup EVER again!
Posted by: Dick Dastardly

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/10/10 07:46 PM

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Otto Bauer lost his credibility




WOW, all this needs is a smile, and it would make a great ad campaign photo for something that's probably illegal in at least 48 states.
Posted by: †††

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/19/10 03:20 PM

Lynn Pleasant - Time in Industry 0y 0m 9d january 10 2010



Charisma Cappelli




with C3X & PM
Posted by: Dick Dastardly

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/19/10 05:25 PM

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http://www.xxxporntalk.com/ubbthreads/uploads/464925-0001.jpg[/image]




"Man, I wish that a tranny cock in my ass instead of her tongue...sigh!"
Posted by: jeff jordan

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/19/10 06:59 PM

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Lynn Pleasant - Time in Industry 0y 0m 9d january 10 2010






One has to appreciate the irony here. That is one of the most unpleasant snatches I've seen in a while. Looks like a fucking bear trap. Used.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/19/10 07:16 PM

the flapjacks dont help either.
Posted by: John West Fan

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/20/10 08:18 AM

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!

Even sadder is that this pic has probably already been airbrushed....


EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!
Posted by: Walrus

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/20/10 09:33 AM

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Lynn Pleasant - Time in Industry 0y 0m 9d january 10 2010






One has to appreciate the irony here. That is one of the most unpleasant snatches I've seen in a while. Looks like a fucking bear trap. Used.




Wouldn't you know it... she's available for interracial.
Posted by: *L*G*

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/20/10 02:18 PM

you can shave her pussy and shes still ugly
Posted by: †††

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/20/10 02:43 PM

Alexis Texas



Chayse Evans



Madison Parker




Danny Wylde



WM - whatever happened to him?

Posted by: Dick Dastardly

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/20/10 04:38 PM

Saw War machine in Vegas briefly, but didn't bother asking him about any legal troubles that may have arisen from the ass-kicking he handed out.
Posted by: wannacorndog

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/20/10 05:21 PM


I think I found her brother!


Posted by: Colonel Klink

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/20/10 06:46 PM

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I have not been this scared by something since the Soviet Army captured Berlin. I do not think this lady is from a Middle Eastern country so there must be some other explanation for her poor grooming habits. Perhaps she is blind, has a fear of razor blades, or lets her hair grow long then shaves it periodically and sells it to those one of those companies that buy human hair then make wigs out of it.
Posted by: charin

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/20/10 07:24 PM

I love it. You haven't lived until you have buried your face into a good fur pie like that. That is a beautiful woman.
Posted by: TonyBaloney

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 01/20/10 07:47 PM

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Is he part vampire?
Posted by: DE-Evolution

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 02/08/10 11:21 PM

Yes, and vampires are gay.
Posted by: John West Fan

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 02/09/10 10:39 AM

what's with the ear on the dark haired dude?
Posted by: drained

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 02/09/10 12:28 PM

@John West Fan
Quote:

what's with the ear on the dark haired dude?




There you go.
Posted by: Bishop

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 02/09/10 12:40 PM

AM-Amused.PM-Need Space. No niggers to blame
Posted by: Donny Long Has Herpes

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 02/09/10 01:19 PM

Did anyone see this shit about LA Direct? Is this true?
http://www.xxxfilmjobs.com/blog/page/2/
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 02/09/10 01:31 PM

Spamming much, Donkey??
Posted by: †††

+++ Breaking News: AFRICAN AMERICAN whore with LAD +++ - 02/11/10 05:26 PM

Alia Star

Age: 24 Height: 5' 5" Weight: 125lbs
Chest: 34F Waist: 26 Hips: 32


Time with Agency
0y 0m 3d
february 8 2010
Posted by: †††

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 02/11/10 05:33 PM



whatever happened to the escort story with the robbed client, where is delanajuice,
and how many PW's are in this video with JH? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64sGfoWEN-8


Brooklyn Bailey
Posted by: †††

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 03/03/10 08:49 AM

MARCH 2010




Raylene left LA Direct

Audrey Hollander retired?

Tanner Mayes




The New Dane Cross: Russian Young




Posted by: †††

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 03/04/10 01:47 AM

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Alia Star

Age: 24 Height: 5' 5" Weight: 125lbs
Chest: 34F Waist: 26 Hips: 32


Time with Agency
0y 0m 3d
february 8 2010







http://www.bunnyranch.com/chat/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=26573
Posted by: †††

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 03/10/10 02:17 PM

Angel Dark



...is touring in the USA
Posted by: †††

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 03/21/10 03:06 PM



Posted by: †††

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 03/21/10 09:32 PM

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~~~~ BAD AGENTS ~~~ Be Safe !!!
02/08/2010

I feel very strongly to stress to any girl in the Biz or trying to get into the Porn Biz .. Know who you are working for & with !

There are many fake or B.S. "agents" ,,,, that are not licensed, legit, and/or likely to be a positive help in your career.

Many times you will hear talk of "suitcase pimps" .... Well this is not just a phrase for "boyfriends" , or "loser photographers" ... It is a term that can describe loser Agents TOO.


I had the misfortune of running into such a LOSER !!!
I was not really looking to get into the Biz.. but a guy that literally sits on the internet all day long,, on chat rooms and model sites.. Seeking out the helpless, the ignorant, the drugged out, & anyone that he can manipulate!

Thankfully I ran into a wonderful PornStar who just in time with the help of her stand-up agent I was Saved !!!

Also thankfully I had only wasted/lost 2 weeks of my life, bullshitting around with this loser "suitcase pimp" type agent. But I am thankful and still I wonder how bad it could have gotten or haw luck may have turned differently and so on....

I will not go into naming any names ... But when deciding to work with an agent make sure he is legit & has references. Never sign a contract without having a lawyer look at it, and never sign anything under the influence. Make sure that he is A LICENSED Agent & that the girls he claims to represent are truly under his representation. !!!!!!

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=519629759&blogId=528676928








Posted by: †††

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 04/23/10 03:22 PM

Joslyn James - 04/21/2010







Posted by: †††

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 04/30/10 08:48 PM




http://ladirectmodels.com/talent.php?id=553&gender=female
Posted by: *L*G*

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 04/30/10 10:26 PM

and now she is doing escort ... coincidence ?
Posted by: tialing

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 05/01/10 08:21 PM

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It only took a few minutes, and the criticism is towards Hay for flooding the industry with subhuman sleaze. This entire board is a criticism of women in porn you fuckin dolt.




Uhhhh ... ok ... and derek is the only person doing this ? I'm sure you'll critique me next even , though i'm not on the site, lol , but there's a reason that agents will put any girl on their site anymore. Because they probably make more money of renting a room to them than they do booking them anymore. Most could careless if the girl is busy working as long as they're getting rent money. They'll never admit it , but think about it .... if a house has 4 bedrooms, usually with 3 girls each room at 200 a week ... well, you do the math. Any girl will go up on a site for that reason .
Posted by: †††

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 05/17/10 06:47 PM



http://ladirectmodels.com/talent.php?id=560&gender=male
Posted by: Demonbolloxs

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 05/18/10 03:43 AM









Self Mutilation Scars ... Thexy or Not ??
Posted by: undercover

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 05/18/10 06:30 AM

Lol i dont think so. They are not scars just the creases from her clothes, dear me
Posted by: tenley

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 05/18/10 06:31 AM

Someone's a cutter

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Self Mutilation Scars ... Thexy or Not ??


Posted by: RenfieldGyps

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 05/18/10 09:40 AM

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Lol i dont think so. They are not scars just the creases from her clothes, dear me


Are you awake yet?? Look at her arm
Posted by: Vice Admiral

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/27/11 11:59 PM

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As for Vanessa Blue, I've rubbed one out many a day while high as a kite, imagining her choking down my man-chowder.




And today I see that Brazzers has a scene with Vanessa Blue, looking MUCH thicker than usual (okay, fat) but still quite strokable. I thought she retired. Is this the triumphant comeback of Vanessa Blue? And will she hit the gym to get back her old pneumatic body?

Does this mean Vanessa Blue and Fattorosi are finished, or that the Porn Law practice is in a downturn matching the generalized industry difficulties?

In other words, if I want to fuck Vanessa Blue how much is it going to cost me?
Posted by: raybbaby

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/28/11 09:49 AM

The original post is now over three years old, and hardly any of these girls still work in porn. I'm sure it is because of this thread. What else could it have been?
Posted by: drained

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/28/11 10:06 AM

Most companies seem to store shot stuff for a future release. Some put it on hold for months, some for years.
Posted by: Barry the Pirate

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/28/11 10:52 AM

So the unfinished basement at JM is sort of a fine wine cellar?
Posted by: drained

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/28/11 11:13 AM

I dunno which vintages are fit for gagging and bukkake. Maybe something's maturing down there.
Posted by: frankie fatale

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/28/11 02:00 PM

either way charin is figuring out a way to get in there and sample the wares.
Posted by: charin

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/29/11 10:47 AM

I wish they would bring back the Vomitorium.
Posted by: cqd

Re: LA Direct's All New Low! - 12/29/11 05:05 PM

Charin, a vomitorium is a large door way, kind of like the ones on stadiums. Can't bring back something that never went away.