You, the Jury

Posted by: Gunker

You, the Jury - 06/07/08 07:31 PM

You are subjected to 8.5 hours of Max Hardcore on a big screen with 11 fellow jurors.

By your community standards, is the obscene material?

What say you?




Posted by: Gunker

Re: You, the Jury - 06/07/08 07:41 PM

s/b "material obscene".

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: You, the Jury - 06/07/08 07:43 PM

Hey Gunker? RE: the avatar, I think it was a nugget, not a full-fledged pretzel.
Posted by: misterz

Re: You, the Jury - 06/07/08 08:47 PM

Can anyone here name anything that is obscene, in YOUR OWN judgement?

If Max material is NOT obscene, then what is?
And please dont say the radical right, neoconservatives are obscene. Just as many people feel the 'politically correct', we want to tax you to death, socialized medicine, illegal alein coddling,you cant smoke in your own house,PMRCC,SEX WORK IS ILLEGAL,leftists socialists, are just as obscene.
Posted by: Gunker

Re: You, the Jury - 06/07/08 09:01 PM

Please eat some pretzel nuggets.
Posted by: Bad Habit

Re: You, the Jury - 06/07/08 09:57 PM

Quote:

Can anyone here name anything that is obscene, in YOUR OWN judgement?




Hate is obscene. War is obscene. Murder is obscene.
Sex doesn't even register on the "Obscene Scale".
Posted by: wannacorndog

Re: You, the Jury - 06/07/08 10:22 PM

Censorship is obscene
Posted by: Gunker

Re: You, the Jury - 06/07/08 11:14 PM

To clarify, this vote is in your local court.

The decision will be kicked up to state Appeals, then maybe state Supreme, and after a few years, kicked up to the Federal level (Appellate, than Supreme).

This initial vote is not about "free speech" but rather "obscenity."

Posted by: Nugent

Re: You, the Jury - 06/07/08 11:20 PM

Bestiality is obscene. Anyone like to argue?
Posted by: The Ghost Is Toast

Re: You, the Jury - 06/08/08 01:24 AM

Quote:

Bestiality is obscene. Anyone like to argue?




Yet I just watched Jackass 2 last night and Chris Pontius and Johnny Knoxville both take a gulp of horse semen.

Also, on Channel 5 in the UK (a free-to-air channel), we have seen Rebecca Loos masturbate a pig to ejaculation. Her previous claim to fame was having an affair with David Beckham.

Therefore, I am guessing said conduct is only frowned upon if it is done in a sexual manner. Ergo, it becomes obscene if one seeks to pleasure the animal or obtain pleasure from it.

I seem to recall reading an article some time back stating that a number of Ethics professors in the US were of the opinion that as long as it is not against the animals will, and as long as you do not harm the animal, then it's all good. As such, unless you're a vegetarian or vegan, you really have no place passing comment on it.

I'm guessing that if I were a dog in Korea, I'd rather get sucked off by some Korean chick than end up as tonight's dinner. Whether it is right or not (a dog getting sucked off), it is the lesser of two evils in that scenario.

For me personally, it's not my bag in the least.
Posted by: freestylah

Re: You, the Jury - 06/08/08 05:26 AM

Rebecca Loos is a Dutch attention whore, daughter of a diplomat (iIrc).

On topic:
Before I call anything obscene, I would like to know what is meant by that word. Obviously, 'we' do not agree on the definition of it.
Posted by: Outback Whack

Re: You, the Jury - 06/08/08 06:25 AM

Well, on the obscenity count I'd have to say "not guilty". But, if given a chance to punish Max for producing seriously shitty and unwatchable porn I might in reality take the opportunity to find him guilty of something - anything.
Posted by: charin

Re: You, the Jury - 06/08/08 08:31 AM

8.5 hours? If my erection lasted more than 4 hours, I would have to seek medical aid.

Really, here in Dayton, I think Max would get a hung jury. Larry Flynt started here, but they've shut down most of the adult theatres because of homophobia. Maybe he would be convicted in more rural parts of Ohio, or Cincinnati. I would find it, I guess, offensive play acting, but not obscene. I'm easily offended. But Max has some artistic merit, and I do pick up after my dog, etc. so I don't know about the gross out part. And, as the author of the FLOP "Piss ain't sex(y)" I don't know if Max really satisfies my prurient interest, I guess not, because I have chosen not to buy any of his stuff.

A friend loaned me a video of nuclear detonations, they are beautiful and spectacular. I don't know what that means, but there it is.

It is wrong to say something can not be listened to or viewed in a certain community. Community standards stop at my front door, I decide what goes and what doesn't inside my own home, as long as I am not harming others.

It's a real crap shoot, isn't it? That's part of what blows about this, ya'll that make this stuff are rolling the dice with your liberty. When I see a cop on the freeway, I know what the speed limit is, but ya'll have limited guidance. Something needs to be done here, so we can freely enjoy this material.

-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: You, the Jury - 06/08/08 08:43 AM

Quote:

If Max material is NOT obscene, then what is?




In porn? Child Pornography. Real rape.

Nothing sexual that goes on between consenting adults is obscene.

Most of Max's stuff, like most of Jeff's stuff, is unwatchable crap.


But, obscene?