Posted by: zenman
Haley Page is dead?
Posted by: GUAPO
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/27/07 09:56 PM
r.i.p my mexican niggette.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/27/07 10:10 PM
A few obsevations:
1) You're right Zen. That's a terrible shop-job on the casket.
2)There's no mention of a cause of "death." What did this whore "die" of? OD? Suicide? Fake Cancer? If it's a result of the pistol whipping, two months is a long time to die from an assault like that.
3)Wasn't there a whore a few months back who conned Luke into posting that she died. Only to have her suitcase pimp admit later that it was a hoax and that only her "porn persona" was dead?
4)Consider the source. I'll believe Ahmadinajad before I believe Luke.
1) You're right Zen. That's a terrible shop-job on the casket.
2)There's no mention of a cause of "death." What did this whore "die" of? OD? Suicide? Fake Cancer? If it's a result of the pistol whipping, two months is a long time to die from an assault like that.
3)Wasn't there a whore a few months back who conned Luke into posting that she died. Only to have her suitcase pimp admit later that it was a hoax and that only her "porn persona" was dead?
4)Consider the source. I'll believe Ahmadinajad before I believe Luke.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/27/07 10:21 PM
Check out those typically absurd Wikipedia notes regarding her entry. They always resemble the screeds of madmen, and this one is no exception! There's an ongoing battle regarding her status as a Bahai. Looks like this hoax might have actually stemmed from that cultist squabble.
There are also no published deaths of any female with her actual surname in San Diego within the past few years.
Nonsense best left to the failed-librarian dorks at Wiki.
And yes, what a godawful Photoshop job!
There are also no published deaths of any female with her actual surname in San Diego within the past few years.
Nonsense best left to the failed-librarian dorks at Wiki.
And yes, what a godawful Photoshop job!
Posted by: smutspov
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/27/07 10:26 PM
A quick check of her myspace reveals that 8/18/2007 is the date of her last login, so that's at least one glaring mistake.
Female
25 years old
NORTH HOLLYWOOD, California
United States
Last Login: 8/18/2007
Note the misspelling of Baja as Bahai... She was born in Chihuhua Mexico on the Baja Peninsula.
Female
25 years old
NORTH HOLLYWOOD, California
United States
Last Login: 8/18/2007
Note the misspelling of Baja as Bahai... She was born in Chihuhua Mexico on the Baja Peninsula.
Posted by: GUAPO
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/27/07 10:34 PM
i just feel its been too long since the last whore death. i just feel the need to have a whore die so we can talk about her like she relevant again.
holla back
holla back
Posted by: ivorenginedriver
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/27/07 10:38 PM
Luke is a punk who publishes without fear and without research, and he is no more a journalist than any of us, as he almost never corroborates his "stories". He continually allows himself to be jerked around by anyone with an agenda, and porn whores have been staging their fake deaths at least since the days of Hypatia Lee, and Luke plays the role of their stooge. For far too long he has been living off his one lucky break, his exposure of the Dick of Death (Marc Wallice). I wouldn't lend any credence to anything that I read on LIB without adequate independent verification.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/27/07 10:42 PM
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Note the misspelling of Baja as Bahai... She was born in Chihuhua Mexico on the Baja Peninsula.
Smut, she was apparently born into the Bahai faith. There's no real reason to know about this Eastern religious cult though, since the most famous current adherents are...uh...Seals & Crofts.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/27/07 10:43 PM
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i just feel its been too long since the last whore death. i just feel the need to have a whore die so we can talk about her like she relevant again.
holla back
Guap, thanks for being Sammy when Frank, Dean, Peter and even Joey go sour.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/27/07 10:44 PM
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i just feel its been too long since the last whore death. i just feel the need to have a whore die so we can talk about her like she relevant again.
You are one wise wigger, my friend. But in my gut, I'm sure this is bullshit.
Assuming for a moment that she really is dead, what does that do to the LA DA's case against Chico Wang? Do they photograph DV victims, like here in NYC, in case they're later "unavailable?" There's an angle for you to pursue, Luke.
Posted by: smutspov
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/27/07 10:56 PM
Quote:Quote:
Note the misspelling of Baja as Bahai... She was born in Chihuhua Mexico on the Baja Peninsula.
Smut, she was apparently born into the Bahai faith. There's no real reason to know about this Eastern religious cult though, since the most famous current adherents are...uh...Seals & Crofts.
Apparently born into that faith according to whom or what? Honestly, I never heard that one before regarding her, so it seems like a stretch, so I figured it was merely confusion regarding the Baja thing.
Posted by: k1ng
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/27/07 10:56 PM
dead ho's tell no pistol whipping tales. volt's reach is far.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/27/07 11:00 PM
I'm just reporting what they're fighting about on Wikipedia. The Bahai squabblers say she admitted to being born into Bahai, but said in an interview that she thought it was a cult. I'd definitely surmise you can't be a porn whore AND a Bahai. That's like being a Hare Krishna and doing Reverse Bukkakes. The community doesn't approve--at least about it being on video.
Posted by: ivorenginedriver
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/27/07 11:05 PM
Baha'i would not approve of a member being a porn whore, pure and simple. Many Baha'i people have gone stoically to their deaths at the hands of the murderous mullah regime in Iran. They have shown rare courage in facing death at the hands of their oppressors. Baha'i is not a cult and it has legitimate moral standards. To be blunt, I doubt that I would have the courage to be Baha'i in Iran.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/27/07 11:08 PM
I hear you, but the American version in the 70s in particular was getting rather like Scientology. It was hardly an endemic religion when Dizzy Gillespie and James Moody and Seals & Crofts signed on.
Posted by: John Floofin
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/27/07 11:10 PM
San Diego Padre's shortstop and Spicoli lookalike Khalil Greene is a Baha'i born and raised, so I hear.
So what's up with Haley anyways? I haven't been to LIB in a long time and I don't plan on it now.
So what's up with Haley anyways? I haven't been to LIB in a long time and I don't plan on it now.
Posted by: k1ng
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/27/07 11:15 PM
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San Diego Padre's shortstop and Spicoli lookalike Khalil Greene is a Baha'i born and raised, so I hear.
that fucker is Baha'i? I thought his parents were just big fans of superman.
Posted by: John Floofin
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/27/07 11:17 PM
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that fucker is Baha'i? I thought his parents were just big fans of superman.
He is, but I still wanna know, is that little hottie Haley with the problematic skin dead or not?!?
Posted by: k1ng
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/27/07 11:19 PM
it'll probably take a day or two to sort this muddy situation out.
Posted by: *L*G*
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 01:17 AM
little pussy was down some days this week
he needs ratings
he needs ratings
Posted by: The Ghost Is Toast
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 02:19 AM
She has been dead inside ever since she shot that Gag Factor scene... 
Oh, and King might be pleased to know that one of the artists on Superman a while back named their son 'Kal-El' (Supes' Kryptonian birth name).
Oh, and King might be pleased to know that one of the artists on Superman a while back named their son 'Kal-El' (Supes' Kryptonian birth name).
Posted by: Dean Wormer
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 02:21 AM
This thread is sure to attract moblem just as flies are attracted to shit.
Posted by: smutspov
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:04 AM
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I'm just reporting what they're fighting about on Wikipedia. The Bahai squabblers say she admitted to being born into Bahai, but said in an interview that she thought it was a cult. I'd definitely surmise you can't be a porn whore AND a Bahai. That's like being a Hare Krishna and doing Reverse Bukkakes. The community doesn't approve--at least about it being on video.
Yeah, that'd be a good analogy for wikipedia as well, porn whores lie and wikipedia distorts the truth, though the story is pretty fishy, maybe Tor was behind it or it was a flimsy attempt to start over again. Whatever the case, I wish Haley the best wherever ever she may be though irononicly I tried contacting her on Aug 24 to see if she was ok because I hadn't heard from her in awhile and had an inexplicable feeling about her. Usually I hear something back, but not this time. It's all surreal and that is all I'll say until the mystery is solved.
Posted by: Jigaloo
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:10 AM
I think LIB's caring Martin Nyms should get on the case and find out if she's ok.
Posted by: Nathanial Mayweather
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:33 AM
I'm afraid all things point to the fact that some stupid woman who sold her soul so as not to work as a plebeian cashier being tits up. The photo graph, the alleged father's website, the beating by Chico Wanker and her Myspace page provide enough circumstantial evidence to an untimely end. The how is the mystery and it can easily be solved by going to L.A. County or San Diego County Records for a Death Certificate. We all know that some supposed bloger/journalist with a rickety hoopty Van ain't gonna do that unless somebody pays for the gas.
I have a good friend who is Bahai and have been to several services with him and I wouldn't exactly say that they are a cult. Yes, they are a very small fiercely loyal religion but they didn't seem as pompously sanctimonious as say Luke Ford or Shelly Luben. I'm Sure their are those followers that are very extreme but I would think if a person raised in that faith became a porn worker they would allow her to be buried in their traditions.
Like my friend and the spiritual leader at their gathering place(They didn't call it temple and he wasn't called a priest or preacher, it was just a house they owned) told me they believe in UNITY of all tings. They were the only religious people I have ever met who held science in high regard. What a trip.
RIP former cum dumpster.
I have a good friend who is Bahai and have been to several services with him and I wouldn't exactly say that they are a cult. Yes, they are a very small fiercely loyal religion but they didn't seem as pompously sanctimonious as say Luke Ford or Shelly Luben. I'm Sure their are those followers that are very extreme but I would think if a person raised in that faith became a porn worker they would allow her to be buried in their traditions.
Like my friend and the spiritual leader at their gathering place(They didn't call it temple and he wasn't called a priest or preacher, it was just a house they owned) told me they believe in UNITY of all tings. They were the only religious people I have ever met who held science in high regard. What a trip.
RIP former cum dumpster.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:56 AM
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The photo graph, the alleged father's website, the beating by Chico Wanker and her Myspace page provide enough circumstantial evidence to an untimely end.
Nah. Not yet. The father's website is your best bet, and your wise choice of the word "alleged" speaks volumes. The photo stinks and anyone who has contacted her at MySpace knows she frequently didn't log on for months at a time.
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The how is the mystery and it can easily be solved by going to L.A. County or San Diego County Records for a Death Certificate. We all know that some supposed bloger/journalist with a rickety hoopty Van ain't gonna do that unless somebody pays for the gas.
Exactly. After starting this, I hope Luke is standing in line at the hall of records right now. It's unlikely that some sort of death notice wouldn't have been published, and there's no trace of one in San Diego or L.A.
Posted by: Conky
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:00 AM
Do we know if she's actually dead? I can't masturbate properly until we have confirmation from Moblem.
Posted by: Jigaloo
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:03 AM
Quote:
Exactly. After starting this, I hope Luke is standing in line at the hall of records right now. It's unlikely that some sort of death notice wouldn't have been published, and there's no trace of one in San Diego or L.A.
Luke standing in line at a bus stop (very comfortably I might add) right now trying to get on a bus to go to city hall is more likely.
Posted by: Nathanial Mayweather
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:28 AM
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The photo graph, the alleged father's website, the beating by Chico Wanker and her Myspace page provide enough circumstantial evidence to an untimely end.
Nah. Not yet. The father's website is your best bet, and your wise choice of the word "alleged" speaks volumes. The photo stinks and anyone who has contacted her at MySpace knows she frequently didn't log on for months at a time.
However the timing of her last log-in, the alleged altercations with Wang and the funeral is the thing. If your scanning obituaries, keep in mind a person has to CALL the paper for it to be published or announced. When doing a service the funeral home asks you specifically if you WANT an announcement. The fact that you can't find one means nothing.
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The how is the mystery and it can easily be solved by going to L.A. County or San Diego County Records for a Death Certificate. We all know that some supposed bloger/journalist with a rickety hoopty Van ain't gonna do that unless somebody pays for the gas.
Exactly. After starting this, I hope Luke is standing in line at the hall of records right now. It's unlikely that some sort of death notice wouldn't have been published, and there's no trace of one in San Diego or L.A.
Give Luke a WalLMart Gift Card for the foot work. He can get gas and maybe a new Air Supply CD. From what I've seen on the net he has "decorated" his abode using them. I'm guessing he has an air mattress. Can Holly Verify that?
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:37 AM
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However the timing of her last log-in
Again, she has a history of not signing on for months. She personally handed me that address on a piece of paper which I still have. She hardly ever signs on. Fact.
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the alleged altercations with Wang
No evidence whatsoever that this is or isn't an ongoing issue. Moot.
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and the funeral is the thing.
So you're asking me to believe that the family who conducted that elaborate memorial servce, took a photo of the presumed deceased's casket and then made a web page about it, didn't call in an obit? For a 26 year old? Or the funeral home didn't? Sure....
Posted by: faceblaster
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 10:17 AM
I just spoke to a former housemate of hers who said he had seen her well after the August 22 date of her supposed death. I smell bullshit and its name is Luke.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 10:22 AM
Thank you, faceblaster!
What a surprise...
What a surprise...
Posted by: Nathanial Mayweather
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 10:53 AM
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So you're asking me to believe that the family who conducted that elaborate memorial servce, took a photo of the presumed deceased's casket and then made a web page about it, didn't call in an obit? For a 26 year old? Or the funeral home didn't? Sure....
The Bahai religion plays a factor here. It is ans EXTREMELY close knit devote faith.
Her parents have a dead(possible suicide) ex Porn Star daughter who accused them of KNOWINGLY allowing a relative to molest her. I'm not sure they are going to ANNOUNCE in the L.A. Times or San Diego Union Tribune that their nefarious daughter has passed away or killed herself. Do you think they would want her associates from her sordid past attending her memoriam? Do you also think ANY "PORN WHORE" is crafty enough to orchistrate the photographs or the "alleged" fathers website? Has she or her associates DEMONSTRATED in the past ability to be so calculuated?(JERSEY JAXEN COMPUTER HACKER) She did get duped by a idiot to marry him for immigration purposes.
You keep saying that "she didn't log in for long periods of time" to her myspace account yet completely ignore the TIMING of the last log in in relation to the above mentioned events!
This is not some YAYHOO form a YAHOO group E-mailing Luke about Lori Michaels suffering form a heart condition that require "ten" heart surgeries then said reputed s"whore" was a millionaire.
The events are very plausible. This was a woman who lived a tortured life. The kind of life that ends with leaving a "good looking" corpse. What motivation would ANYBODY have to fake this person DEATH. Do you think the "Bahai cult" was that worried about their public image to DO THIS? Come on.
About the house mate.
WHO IS HE. WHAT DOES HE DO. HOW DOES HE KNOW HER.....
JOURNALISM 101 folks.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 10:55 AM
Are you a shill for Bahai?
Perhaps YOU need the Journalism 101 class.
Perhaps YOU need the Journalism 101 class.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 11:03 AM
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Do you also think ANY "PORN WHORE" is crafty enough to orchistrate the photographs or the "alleged" fathers website? Has she or her associates DEMONSTRATED in the past ability to be so calculuated?(JERSEY JAXEN COMPUTER HACKER) She did get duped by a idiot to marry him for immigration purposes.
Who said Haley has ANYTHING to do with this. It looks like:
1. Someone added info to a Wikipedia page, which has been retracted by the "Wikipedia cult."
2. Someone reported that info to Luke. Perhaps the person who posted on Wiki?
3. Luke ran with it.
I think we're all just waiting for some EVIDENCE. The "former housemate" is the closest thing I've seen. And, agreed, that's not evidence either.
Posted by: warp_speed
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 11:03 AM
LOL, who the fuck cares? She was a dime a dozen whore, there's thousands of her kind standing in line to take her place.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 11:10 AM
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LOL, who the fuck cares? She was a dime a dozen whore, there's thousands of her kind standing in line to take her place.
You're wrong. There's nothing more entertaining than ferreting out the truth behind a potentially sordid demise. Or, for that matter, another red herring barfed up by "porn's leading journalist." If this were about the death of that Pakistani cricket coach, you might have a point. Shall we discuss fat living whores instead?
Posted by: warp_speed
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 11:13 AM
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LOL, who the fuck cares? She was a dime a dozen whore, there's thousands of her kind standing in line to take her place.
You're wrong. There's nothing more entertaining than ferreting out the truth behind a potentially sordid demise. Or, for that matter, another red herring barfed up by "porn's leading journalist." If this were about the death of that Pakistani cricket coach, you might have a point. Shall we discuss fat living whores instead?
I disagree. But I like fat whores.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 11:15 AM
Let's agree to disagree. But at least I like a few sort of fat whores. 
Posted by: Nathanial Mayweather
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 11:38 AM
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Do you also think ANY "PORN WHORE" is crafty enough to orchistrate the photographs or the "alleged" fathers website? Has she or her associates DEMONSTRATED in the past ability to be so calculuated?(JERSEY JAXEN COMPUTER HACKER) She did get duped by a idiot to marry him for immigration purposes.
Who said Haley has ANYTHING to do with this. It looks like:
1. Someone added info to a Wikipedia page, which has been retracted by the "Wikipedia cult."
2. Someone reported that info to Luke. Perhaps the person who posted on Wiki?
3. Luke ran with it.
I think we're all just waiting for some EVIDENCE. The "former housemate" is the closest thing I've seen. And, agreed, that's not evidence either.
From Lukeisback.com-
August 30, 2007
Luke: "How's Chico doing?"
Jasmine Tame: "I don't know. I think he left the country. The funny part is he didn't tell me. He spaced himself out from other people."
"We were friends but he kept his distance. I don't know why. Maybe he stays at home by himself and doesn't deal with things. He's happy now he has a girlfriend [Hailey Page] . He just wanted someone there all the time. I was there but not enough."
Luke: "What happened?"
Jasmine: "His girlfriend was abusing heroin. He spent so much money in trying to get her off. And then he heard that she had spent three days shooting up a week before they were supposed to get married.
"He told Hailey, 'You're coming on the boat with me tomorrow because I'm afraid you're going to shoot up. ' She exaggerated and said he kidnapped her. She was trying to piss him off. And he's trying to help her.
"Hailey had guns under her name. I think Chico got caught with a gun in the car. A felon with a gun is like a year in jail. He doesn't want to go to jail. He left the country. He wanted to go anyway.
"He wrote a blog saying there's violence in America while in China there's not much violence and gangs. He wanted to keep doing his website. He was doing it for the fun, like I am. He wanted to do fun sites like PornoJackAss."
Luke: "You're one of the few people in the industry who stuck by him."
Jasmine: "Yeah. I don't know why. He confronts people. I told him, 'Don't even bother.' He learned the lesson the hard way by having some guy say that Chico robbed his house."
Three day heroine binges +guns- white knighting ex boy friend=
"DEATH BY MISADVENTURE"
Or
"SUICIDE"
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 11:42 AM
Listen, ANY female doing porn is troubled in some way. Anything can happen. I'm waiting for credible information/evidence on this one. That's all.
Posted by: Nathanial Mayweather
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 02:01 PM
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Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 02:05 PM
Wow.
Posted by: Nathanial Mayweather
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 02:16 PM
I think any ex porn sex worker is.....
The sooner the better. Since OD'ing Rock Stars are a thing of the past I look to Porn for my "tragic" ends.
The sooner the better. Since OD'ing Rock Stars are a thing of the past I look to Porn for my "tragic" ends.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 02:23 PM
Wow again.
Posted by: Nathanial Mayweather
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 02:36 PM
Quote:
Wow again.
I have a black heart.
I can admit it, unlike Luke Ford. (Who prays for people to die) I don't pray or wish it but I like to see the spectacle of a semi public self destruction. I was some what please by both Kurt Kobain's and Layne Staley's deaths. I feel cheated because Courtney Love has thus far not delivered. Britney Spears seems to be a promising candidate, can somebody introduce her to smack?
I have a good psychiatrist and a priest. I'm working through it.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 02:42 PM
Rock on, Fist.
Posted by: poca-hot-ass
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 03:44 PM
yes haley page is dead i was the one who actually got this started.... i found blog on shelly lubben's page and kevin from la direct has verified it.... heroin over dose.... have some repect for the dead my god no matter the circumstance! you guys are disgusting making jokes about this!!!! just bc we are in this porno biz full of "sin and immoral behavior"(lol) doesnt mean you should at least have some respect for people who have passed 
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 03:52 PM
Hello!, the Lubben blog is picked up from the now redacted Wikipedia entry. And the wheel goes round and round...
Evidence, please!
Evidence, please!
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 03:54 PM
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kevin from la direct has verified it
Where?
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 04:01 PM
Maybe from Luke?!
Ever notice how the porn world functions just like the U.S. before the telegraph? "The president has been assassinated in Washington! Pass it on!"
Ever notice how the porn world functions just like the U.S. before the telegraph? "The president has been assassinated in Washington! Pass it on!"
Posted by: Bornyo
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 04:04 PM
Any post containing "lol" which pleads for decency and respect for the dead gets tossed in the same sausage grinder as the rest of this drivel.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 04:06 PM
This is complete bullshit.
If she died of an illness the info might not be in the paper. But, if she died by OD or suicide or murder, there would be a coroner's inquest/report to verify. And, those are public info and would be reported on some level somewhere.
If she died of an illness the info might not be in the paper. But, if she died by OD or suicide or murder, there would be a coroner's inquest/report to verify. And, those are public info and would be reported on some level somewhere.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 04:24 PM
The memorial card photo is readily available with a google search.
This (see bottom):
http://www.bastardly.com/archives/2006/02/08/haley-paige-at-avn-2006-in-las-vegas/
Will bring you here:
http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=2DcOW7RixdO
The memorial card photo is among the 13 photos here. They were added yesterday. Curious!
This (see bottom):
http://www.bastardly.com/archives/2006/02/08/haley-paige-at-avn-2006-in-las-vegas/
Will bring you here:
http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=2DcOW7RixdO
The memorial card photo is among the 13 photos here. They were added yesterday. Curious!
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 04:30 PM
The first link also includes these posts:
Kensabe
Haley Paige passed from this life on August 21, 2007. In the company of Chico Wang. Who ya gonna blame?
Sunday, September 16, 2007 at 4:48 pm
jj
Kensabe? Are you certain of this? How do you know? I can’t find anything about that anwhere on the ‘net…
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 at 1:02 am
Kensabe
So very certain. I’m her father. I buried her in Brentwood, California on August 30. There seems to be no word on her or Chico in the blogs. Anyone who knew her, I’d love to hear good stories of her; bad ones, too, I want to know more about her life in the last 3 years or so. Her mother and I (we’re divorced) did not know she was in the business until just a few weeks before her passing. We did not judge her nor condemn her for her chosen path. We love her deeply, and she knows we do, even in death. And to set the record straight: she was NOT molested by her uncle. There was an incident with him, and it ended right there. Her parents did NOT give her up to a nasty uncle for rent. She was very young at the time. We lived in Mexico, the uncle lived in California. After the one incident, we never left her alone with him, and we seldom saw him until he died of a liver disease. My daughter is indeed as sweet and loving as many of you say she is. If you would like to see photos that I took of her funeral ceremony, go to this link: http://www.cometphotos.net/MaryamsCeremony.
Sunday, September 23, 2007 at 3:06 am
jj
kEN,
I imagine this is odd for you talking about this with a stranger. The reason I started posting on this site was that I was back into a porn addiction that I have struggled with for years. I’m ashamed and sorry to say that I came across a clip of her at 19, probably one of the first she had involvement with, and it stopped me in my tracks. Something about her face was so pure and sweet, I couldn’t continue. I looked up her name and came across stories about her life. I haven’t been back into the addiction since. She really brought home the fact that she and the other girls are humans and deserve so much better. I tried looking for ways to contact her and tell her this. Especially after hearing how she was trying to follow her dreams and get out of porn. I hope you aren’t offended by this but I’m taking your whole story with a grain of salt. For one, that link is inactive. Not that I think I have any right as a stranger to see her funeral, but it would be nice to see her in a picture other than what I’ve seen. All I could find anywhere regarding her passing was that shortly before the date you give, she was involved in an assault where this ‘Chico’ guy was arrested. Also, I found a Myspace site that she apparently set up with her last login date at 8/21. For the most part I believe you and don’t think you should have to convince me. I’m incredibly sorry for your loss. I hope it helps to know that she helped me. That time I saw her that I told you about, was right around the date you say was her death. I believe she has been an angel to me. J
Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 6:56 pm
Kensabe
Haley Paige passed from this life on August 21, 2007. In the company of Chico Wang. Who ya gonna blame?
Sunday, September 16, 2007 at 4:48 pm
jj
Kensabe? Are you certain of this? How do you know? I can’t find anything about that anwhere on the ‘net…
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 at 1:02 am
Kensabe
So very certain. I’m her father. I buried her in Brentwood, California on August 30. There seems to be no word on her or Chico in the blogs. Anyone who knew her, I’d love to hear good stories of her; bad ones, too, I want to know more about her life in the last 3 years or so. Her mother and I (we’re divorced) did not know she was in the business until just a few weeks before her passing. We did not judge her nor condemn her for her chosen path. We love her deeply, and she knows we do, even in death. And to set the record straight: she was NOT molested by her uncle. There was an incident with him, and it ended right there. Her parents did NOT give her up to a nasty uncle for rent. She was very young at the time. We lived in Mexico, the uncle lived in California. After the one incident, we never left her alone with him, and we seldom saw him until he died of a liver disease. My daughter is indeed as sweet and loving as many of you say she is. If you would like to see photos that I took of her funeral ceremony, go to this link: http://www.cometphotos.net/MaryamsCeremony.
Sunday, September 23, 2007 at 3:06 am
jj
kEN,
I imagine this is odd for you talking about this with a stranger. The reason I started posting on this site was that I was back into a porn addiction that I have struggled with for years. I’m ashamed and sorry to say that I came across a clip of her at 19, probably one of the first she had involvement with, and it stopped me in my tracks. Something about her face was so pure and sweet, I couldn’t continue. I looked up her name and came across stories about her life. I haven’t been back into the addiction since. She really brought home the fact that she and the other girls are humans and deserve so much better. I tried looking for ways to contact her and tell her this. Especially after hearing how she was trying to follow her dreams and get out of porn. I hope you aren’t offended by this but I’m taking your whole story with a grain of salt. For one, that link is inactive. Not that I think I have any right as a stranger to see her funeral, but it would be nice to see her in a picture other than what I’ve seen. All I could find anywhere regarding her passing was that shortly before the date you give, she was involved in an assault where this ‘Chico’ guy was arrested. Also, I found a Myspace site that she apparently set up with her last login date at 8/21. For the most part I believe you and don’t think you should have to convince me. I’m incredibly sorry for your loss. I hope it helps to know that she helped me. That time I saw her that I told you about, was right around the date you say was her death. I believe she has been an angel to me. J
Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 6:56 pm
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 04:33 PM
The Ken Haley mentioned above has this photo page:
http://www.shutterpoint.com/Photos-BrowseUser.cfm?user_id=COMETPHOTOS
The memorial service photos purportedly on the dead "photosite" link are not inluded in the galleries on this page, at least on first inspection.
http://www.shutterpoint.com/Photos-BrowseUser.cfm?user_id=COMETPHOTOS
The memorial service photos purportedly on the dead "photosite" link are not inluded in the galleries on this page, at least on first inspection.
Posted by: zenman
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 04:34 PM
Quote:
The memorial card photo is readily available with a google search.
This (see bottom):
http://www.bastardly.com/archives/2006/02/08/haley-paige-at-avn-2006-in-las-vegas/
Will bring you here:
http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=2DcOW7RixdO
The memorial card photo is among the 13 photos here. They were added yesterday. Curious!
Here's the Ken Haley collection cached from the old photo site he had that's now closed. Look down and you'll see the the tennis photo are obviously from the same set. I'd say she really is dead. If this is a hoax, it's really elaborate and well thought out
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 04:36 PM
I'm writing Ken Haley. Assuming he's legit, perhaps he can provide verification.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 04:40 PM
Zen, take a look at the newer Comet Photos link. The "Photosite" page could conceivably have been doctored. Either the source of the hoax has been found, or the worst is possibly very true.
On second thought, would a mourning father have posted this:
"Haley Paige passed from this life on August 21, 2007. In the company of Chico Wang. Who ya gonna blame?"
On second thought, would a mourning father have posted this:
"Haley Paige passed from this life on August 21, 2007. In the company of Chico Wang. Who ya gonna blame?"
Posted by: Monstar
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 04:52 PM
anyway this turns out it's not going to be good. if this is a hoax it's a really fucked up one. if not, then....that's that.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 04:57 PM
No kidding. Either Ken Haley IS her father, or Ken Haley is a nature photog in Oregon whose name and images are being used. I won't have access to 2257 records till Monday. I don't even know if I have her birth cert., but if someone else does, maybe they could look up her father's name.
If this is a hoax, this shit's gotta stop. Likewise for the other alternative.
If this is a hoax, this shit's gotta stop. Likewise for the other alternative.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 05:10 PM
Quote:
Zen, take a look at the newer Comet Photos link. The "Photosite" page could conceivably have been doctored. Either the source of the hoax has been found, or the worst is possibly very true.
On second thought, would a mourning father have posted this:
"Haley Paige passed from this life on August 21, 2007. In the company of Chico Wang. Who ya gonna blame?"
Happy I read the posts before I posted. I was going to say the same thing.
Bullshit.
Bullshit.
Bullshit.
It's all based on anonymous posts to a forum and a wiki entry which has since been removed.
Either she's trying to leave porn w/o having cancer or it's someone's variant of an internet misinformation attempt.
Posted by: zenman
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 05:15 PM
Quote:Quote:
Bullshit.
Bullshit.
Bullshit.
I hope you're right. I hate it when whores die.
Posted by: Nathanial Mayweather
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 05:17 PM
Quote:
Zen, take a look at the newer Comet Photos link. The "Photosite" page could conceivably have been doctored. Either the source of the hoax has been found, or the worst is possibly very true.
On second thought, would a mourning father have posted this:
"Haley Paige passed from this life on August 21, 2007. In the company of Chico Wang. Who ya gonna blame?"
Any person looking at the picture of the allege father and Haley can see they are at the very least RELATED.
Shit, My father died two years ago and my mother has many photos of him up. Why WOULDN'T a father do everything he could to memorialize his downtrodden "lost" child. I may have a black heart but at least I have a heart.
Tits up is the Verdict.
Bahai Funeral Services
Posted by: k1ng
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 05:23 PM
shut up you fucking troll
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 05:25 PM
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Any person looking at the picture of the allege father and Haley can see they are at the very least RELATED.
I agree. BUT, my point is that the hoaxer could have obtained legit photos and used them to masquerade as Dad. And YES, a determined hoaxer has that much time on his/her hands.
I too have nothing better to do tonight than wrack my brain over this. Sad.
I was just thinking that Haley's actual surname is Hispanic, based on ID I'd seen previously. But maybe I've confused myself. Can anyone help? Please PM if so...
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 05:30 PM
If Haley is dead, this is not evidence of it.
In this post Kensabe calls himself her father:
In this post he refers to her father in the 3rd person as "Ken" ... NOT THE 1ST AS I OR ME:
In this post Kensabe calls himself her father:
In this post he refers to her father in the 3rd person as "Ken" ... NOT THE 1ST AS I OR ME:
Posted by: *L*G*
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 05:32 PM
that funeral pic is a obvious photoshop fake
Posted by: faceblaster
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 05:33 PM
Call Kevin at LA Firect and ask if he confirmed her death.
Why would a girl from San Diego be burried in Brentwood? I live in Brentwood and can't even think of a cemetary around here.
Why would a girl from San Diego be burried in Brentwood? I live in Brentwood and can't even think of a cemetary around here.
Posted by: Ivor Biggun
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 05:34 PM
Quote:
if this is a hoax it's a really fucked up one.
That wouldn't suprise me of Wang.
I really fucking hope so, anyway.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 05:35 PM
Quote:
In this post he refers to her father in the 3rd person as "Ken" ... NOT THE 1ST AS I OR ME:
The third-person reference is odd, but plausible, no? These are exactly the pics that look bundled as a hoax prop.
Posted by: Nathanial Mayweather
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 05:36 PM
Quote:
shut up you fucking troll
Posted by: Stevie Why
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 05:53 PM
Surprised no one mentioned this in full yet:
From Shelley Luben's Myspace Blog:
Sorry everyone, but Shelley confirmed it. While everyone on XPT was busy calling L.A. Direct Models and Bud Lee today, Shelley got in touch with a little friend named JESUS and heard it from the Son of God himself.
From Shelley Luben's Myspace Blog:
Quote:
Porn Actress Haley Paige Dies
Current mood: sad
I am extremely sad to discover today that porn actress Haley Paige died on Aug. 22, 2007. Please read about her tragic life of sexual trauma at Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Haley_Paige&oldid=160614444
I hope those of you who are viewing porn realize that these actresses are humans who have been through years of trauma and abuse. Please stop viewing porn for the sake of women's lives. What if this girl was your sister, daughter or Mother?
Maryam Haley [AKA Haley Paige] passed from this world in August of 2007 after a life wrought with sexual trauma at the tender age of 25. Her dream of becoming a psychologist was never realized. She leaves behind two loving parents.
Sorry everyone, but Shelley confirmed it. While everyone on XPT was busy calling L.A. Direct Models and Bud Lee today, Shelley got in touch with a little friend named JESUS and heard it from the Son of God himself.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 05:54 PM
I mentioned that above. She claims it's fact, but only has the redacted Wiki entry as info, of course. I'm trying to find a source other than idle gossip right now.
Posted by: Nathanial Mayweather
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 05:57 PM
Quote:
Call Kevin at LA Firect and ask if he confirmed her death.
Why would a girl from San Diego be burried in Brentwood? I live in Brentwood and can't even think of a cemetary around here.
Since you didn't click on the link I provided about Bahai funeral practices.
Certain Baha’i laws, including some burial laws, are implemented in parts of the world as Baha’i communities evolve. Baha’is are universally required to observe the following burial laws:
∙ The body is not to be embalmed unless required by law (and then only to preserve the body for a short period of time);
∙ Calcination or other means of speeding the process of natural decomposition should not be used;
∙ Cremation is forbidden;
∙ Interment must take place within one hour's travel time from the city or town where death occurs;
∙ Baha’is may donate their bodies or organs to medical science, but provisions must be made to treat the remains with dignity and bury the remains within one hour's travel from the place of death.
Posted by: Stevie Why
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 06:00 PM
Quote:
I mentioned that above. She claims it's fact, but only has the redacted Wiki entry as info, of course. I'm trying to find a source other than idle gossip right now.
I saw that, but you'd miss this awesome response from Scott there unless you checked it:
Quote:
Scott:
This is a real sad thing. The industry death rate seems to be high, even when compared to the most dangerous kinds of occuptions. Porn is not the glamourous life that today's younger generation believes it to be. With smoke and mirrors the porn industry (and the Great Deceiver Satan) deceives people into believing that porn is the "hot" thing, the cool and trendy thing for "adults" to enjoy, all the while it does nothing but destroy the minds of adults and children alike while degrading the beauty of love and the virtue and dignity of women.
The actresses especially suffer in a different way as well. Sex may seem meaningless to many people, but so often the heart light comes on and in the heart a person can come to the understanding that it's not "just sex" - but that sex is meant to be a loving, private moment. I think when this awakening happens to the actors and actresses in the industry, and they see the light of truth, see how they are just being used (or rather abused for money) and are not respected by the porn viewers and purveyors for being "someone special" outside of the sex world, but are exaulted only because of the sex world they live in, I think it's then that a depression and even sense of shame can sink in and cause intense inner pain and turmoil.
We need to remember these people in this industry when we pray. They need prayer not only because of the fact that they are being used in a degrading way, for the pleasure of people who are really deceived themselves, but also because these sex industry working people may realize what is happening to them and then be hit with a troubled heart, sadness and depression - wanting something to turn to (drugs, alcohol, more sex even . . .) but not knowing what - when we born-again Christians know it's simply the love of Jesus our Lord and Savior who can heal all troubled hearts.
They need prayer while in the business, but let's not forget them after they have seen the light, because it can be a terribly depressing thing to deal with once the truth is understood.
That type of depressing talk and despair is what turns on 90% of this board, eh?
Posted by: zenman
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 06:01 PM
Quote:
that funeral pic is a obvious photoshop fake
It's obviously shopped, but he's a photographer.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 06:03 PM
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"Hailey had guns under her name."
Bullshit. She's not a citizen. How is she going to get a permit and get guns (plural) "under her name?"
I have a few resources I can check. Will be back soon.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 06:06 PM
Quote:Quote:
that funeral pic is a obvious photoshop fake
It's obviously shopped, but he's a photographer.
The photo itself is shopped, which is no problem. It's the way it looks in the frame that's the problem. No consideration for the presence of light on glass, etc. It's just flat. Then again, someone could have sincerely created that too, I'm just not biting yet.
Posted by: Stevie Why
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 06:07 PM
Quote:
I have a few resources I can check. Will be back soon.
Calling the info into 1-800-NRA-JESUS doesn't count.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 06:12 PM
Quote:Quote:
"Hailey had guns under her name."
Bullshit. She's not a citizen. How is she going to get a permit and get guns (plural) "under her name?"
I have a few resources I can check. Will be back soon.
Jim, I'm quite sure she's a citizen. (Born to at least one American parent in Mexico.) I no longer have Lexis-Nexis, so I'm going crazy over here!
Posted by: Nathanial Mayweather
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 06:14 PM
Quote:Quote:
"Hailey had guns under her name."
Bullshit. She's not a citizen. How is she going to get a permit and get guns (plural) "under her name?"
I have a few resources I can check. Will be back soon.
Jim, why would an alleged videographer go to great lengths to marry her to obtain a green card if she wasn't a U.S. citizen? How could she have a PASSPORT if she wasn't a U.S. Citizen?
passport
You have to concede the fact that Luke Ford "broke" a story that turned out to be factual. Heck, when you're shooting with sawed shotgun loaded with bird shot your going to hit SOMETHING eventually.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 06:26 PM
Quote:
Quote:
I have a few resources I can check. Will be back soon.
Calling the info into 1-800-NRA-JESUS doesn't count.
Stevie, get off the Shelley/Jesus kick already. It's played.
I have a few Governmental resources I'm checking. Assuming that her real name is "Maryam Haley" as reported on Luke, Wiki and the Passport Zenman found.
BTW: Does anyone know if she actually obtained citizenship when she married Del Toro?. 'Cause if not, then that passport's a fake. You have to be a citizen to obtain a passport.
EDIT: Charlie and Karma responded while I was posting:
Charlie: I DO have Lexis-Nexis and will hit that in a minute. Have some other resources as well.
Karma: Yes, my point exactly. I've come across quite a few bogus passports in my time a few of which were so good they looked better than the real thing. For now, I'm proceeding under the assumption that she is a citizen.
Although, if one of her parents was a citizen, she wouldn't need to marry Del Toro. On her 21st Birthday, she would simply declre her intention to remain a US citizen and renounce her Mexican citizenship. Same as my buddy who was born in Britain did.
Posted by: Nathanial Mayweather
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 06:32 PM
Quote:
Stevie, get off the Shelley/Jesus kick already. It's played.
I have a few Governmental resources I'm checking. Assuming that her real name is "Maryam Haley" as reported on Luke, Wiki and the Passport Zenman found.
BTW: Does anyone know if she actually obtained citizenship when she married Del Toro?. 'Cause if not, then that passport's a fake. You have to be a citizen to obtain a passport.
How could the Departments of Homeland security and Immigration set a hearing for her ex-husband if she WASN'T a citizen. She gave an affidavit. If one is true so must the other. Simple logic.
Posted by: k1ng
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 06:35 PM
jim, del toro was the one marrying for citizenship not haley
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 06:39 PM
Quote:
How could the Departments of Homeland security and Immigration set a hearing for her ex-husband if she WASN'T a citizen. She gave an affidavit. If one is true so must the other. Simple logic.
Not in the least. What does the one have to do with the other? She needn't be a citizen to give a deposition. Thats Post hoc, ergo propter hoc at work.
Anyway, like I said, I'm going to proceed under the assumpion that she was a citizen.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 06:39 PM
Quote:
jim, del toro was the one marrying for citizenship not haley
OOOOOOHHHHHHHH!!! My Bad.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 06:44 PM
What does being a citizen have to do with whether she's dead?
Proving whether or not she had guns in her name is meaningless.
If on Monday, Charlie finds that Maryam Haley is her real name and that her dad's name is Kenneth Haley it doesn't prove she's alive or dead. This is information some stalker gathered.
If the info doesn't match, it proves at least that the poster Kensabe is a fake. But, in all likelihood, it's valid.
Proving whether or not she had guns in her name is meaningless.
If on Monday, Charlie finds that Maryam Haley is her real name and that her dad's name is Kenneth Haley it doesn't prove she's alive or dead. This is information some stalker gathered.
If the info doesn't match, it proves at least that the poster Kensabe is a fake. But, in all likelihood, it's valid.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 06:55 PM
Quote:
What does being a citizen have to do with whether she's dead?
We're just trying to verify the biographical facts. Gun records could provide info. Why not?
Quote:
If on Monday, Charlie finds that Maryam Haley is her real name and that her dad's name is Kenneth Haley it doesn't prove she's alive or dead. This is information some stalker gathered.
Indubitably, but if we can find out now that her pappy's name is Zoilo Versalles, we'll get somewhere.
Quote:
If the info doesn't match, it proves at least that the poster Kensabe is a fake. But, in all likelihood, it's valid.
If her father's name is Ken Haley, yes. But if it's Bob Haley...
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 07:57 PM
More from "Kensabe":
Kensabe
Hi Mike! Hola Jorge! I know you both, don’t I? Yes, Haley lived in Chihuahua as a child. She’s a true bicultural product, and I hope she’s proud of it. And I entrusted her to Mike on her year-long journey down under. Then had to pay for her to come home when she needed to escape. Thanks for taking such good care of my baby, Mike! How’s it going, senorita Haley? (I’m the most important man in Haley’s life, and I hope she reads this.) Except for the bad story about your uncle, in which you said your parents looked the other way, you’ve managed to project your true sweet nature and loving heart. It’s a hell of a shock to see where you’ve gone, and though I don’t like it, I don’t condemn you for it. I do believe that you could have chosen a more wholesome outlet for your beauty and talents. I don’t think it’s too late to redirect your course. If you need any help or encouragement, you know where to find me.
Wednesday, July 4, 2007 at 1:57 am
Kensabe
Hi Mike! Hola Jorge! I know you both, don’t I? Yes, Haley lived in Chihuahua as a child. She’s a true bicultural product, and I hope she’s proud of it. And I entrusted her to Mike on her year-long journey down under. Then had to pay for her to come home when she needed to escape. Thanks for taking such good care of my baby, Mike! How’s it going, senorita Haley? (I’m the most important man in Haley’s life, and I hope she reads this.) Except for the bad story about your uncle, in which you said your parents looked the other way, you’ve managed to project your true sweet nature and loving heart. It’s a hell of a shock to see where you’ve gone, and though I don’t like it, I don’t condemn you for it. I do believe that you could have chosen a more wholesome outlet for your beauty and talents. I don’t think it’s too late to redirect your course. If you need any help or encouragement, you know where to find me.
Wednesday, July 4, 2007 at 1:57 am
Posted by: zenman
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:10 PM
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:10 PM
What do you make out of this?
Could it be some guy helping her fake her death?
Quote:
"I’m the most important man in Haley’s life, and I hope she reads this."
"Except for the bad story about your uncle, in which you said your parents looked the other way,"
"I don’t think it’s too late to redirect your course. If you need any help or encouragement,"
Could it be some guy helping her fake her death?
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:15 PM
Quote:
Why would a girl from San Diego be burried in Brentwood? I live in Brentwood and can't even think of a cemetary around here.
Excellent point. This is because (according to the archived, defunct Photosite page) she was allegedly buried in Union Cemetery:
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Maryam was laid to rest in Union Cemetery, Brentwood, California, on August 31, 2007. Present were her parents, all of her aunts and uncles, most of her cousins, and a number of friends. Her uncle Paul Viramontes and his son Pablo, along with two ...
Well, Union Cemetery in Brentwood is not in Contra-Costa but ALAMEDA County, near Oakland.
There are also no published obituaries in that county. The investigation just moved way up the coast.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:16 PM
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Touring Editor MIKE Smith:
We lost one member, Maryam Haley, from San Diego Ca. in Feb. while touring in Melbourne Australia due to a family situation
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Kensabe's post:
And I entrusted her to MIKE on her year-long journey down under.
It gets more complicated.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:17 PM
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We lost one member, Maryam Haley, from San Diego Ca. in Feb. while touring in Melbourne Australia due to a family situation in the States
I found that too. Curious, but figured it was a red herring Luke might make a federal case from.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:20 PM
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What do you make out of this?
Quote:
"I’m the most important man in Haley’s life, and I hope she reads this."
"Except for the bad story about your uncle, in which you said your parents looked the other way,"
"I don’t think it’s too late to redirect your course. If you need any help or encouragement,"
Could it be some guy helping her fake her death?
This stuff I find to be just creepy. If the post were more recent it would fit the hoax theory. But...
Posted by: zenman
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:23 PM
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:28 PM
That's 99.9% her...middle initial "I". Spring Valley is in S.D.
Sure looks like she's San Diego through and through, but then she gets buried in Oakland.
Sure looks like she's San Diego through and through, but then she gets buried in Oakland.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:28 PM
Quote:
This stuff I find to be just creepy. If the post were more recent it would fit the hoax theory. But...
Kensabe seems to be someone from her life. Especially if the Zen/Kensabe overlap with Australia & Mike is valid. But, he doesn't seem to be her dad since he again references the parents in the 3rd person.
Highly interesting and no where near solved ...
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:29 PM
Well, there is no obtaining birth records from the state of Chihuahua over the net.
Zen, I'm using similar tools to People finder before I do the Lexis Search.
The info on "Mike's" page does not necessarily confirm "Ken's" bona fides. "ken" could simply be someone who knows Haley well enough to have that info.
Zen, I'm using similar tools to People finder before I do the Lexis Search.
The info on "Mike's" page does not necessarily confirm "Ken's" bona fides. "ken" could simply be someone who knows Haley well enough to have that info.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:34 PM
Well, Intellius confirms Ken as a relative:
Posted by: zenman
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:34 PM
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W
Zen, I'm using similar tools to People finder before I do the Lexis Search.
what other tools do you use? I like people search shit.
Posted by: k1ng
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:37 PM
Posted by: zenman
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:42 PM
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:43 PM
The death cert. search just needs to be focused on San Diego, Los Angeles and Alameda counties. That'll solve it, once and for all.
This is either a FAMILY-sponsored "burial" of a porn past (and therefore still a hoax) or a well-hidden death.
This is either a FAMILY-sponsored "burial" of a porn past (and therefore still a hoax) or a well-hidden death.
Posted by: zenman
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:44 PM
Are you looking on the web for the death certificate or do you have another source. I ask because when my grandmother died a few years ago, hers didn't appear on any web sites until months afterward.
Posted by: Desert_N8iv
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:45 PM
Lots of unanswered questions here.
Here is some info on the cemetery where she was purportedly buried.
Union Cemetery - Brentwood, CA
Why would she be interred here? Why not in the Los Angeles or San Diego area where most of her life was spent? Brentwood (NOT 90049, the affluent section of Los Angeles) where this cemetery is located is in the East Bay area of Contra Costa County. Is that perhaps the home of her alleged father? I have seen nothing to indicate that she had friends, family or other connections there.
Search results on findagrave.com list 1224 individuals buried at Union Cemetery but none with a last name of Haley. So that just leads to additional questions.
Here is some info on the cemetery where she was purportedly buried.
Union Cemetery - Brentwood, CA
Why would she be interred here? Why not in the Los Angeles or San Diego area where most of her life was spent? Brentwood (NOT 90049, the affluent section of Los Angeles) where this cemetery is located is in the East Bay area of Contra Costa County. Is that perhaps the home of her alleged father? I have seen nothing to indicate that she had friends, family or other connections there.
Search results on findagrave.com list 1224 individuals buried at Union Cemetery but none with a last name of Haley. So that just leads to additional questions.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:45 PM
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Well, Intellius confirms Ken as a relative:
Showing up as a red-x/TIFF for me so I'm just re-posting it for others who might have the same issue:
Posted by: zenman
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:45 PM
It wasnt her death certificate specifically, but i meant just before it started showing up in public databases.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:49 PM
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Are you looking on the web for the death certificate or do you have another source. I ask because when my grandmother died a few years ago, hers didn't appear on any web sites until months afterward.
You're right about the delay. For an alleged death this recent, one usually needs to show up at the records offfice in person, or wait forever for a mailed record IF you can provide the proper credentials. I already checked the Social Security Death Index, but it's way too early for that. Since I'm in New York, I'll have to re-group on Monday and try to get the certs. somehow--if no one else can before then.
Posted by: zenman
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:50 PM
Color me clueless, but I thought Brentwood *was* a part of LA. Isn't that where OJ lived? I'm looking on google maps and it's nearer SF! I don't know a damned thing about California.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 08:55 PM
Brentwood you are thinking of is the name of a neighborhood in LA, CA
This is the city of Brentwood, CA ... up near Stockton.
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This is the city of Brentwood, CA ... up near Stockton.
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Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:00 PM
Arial View of Union Cemetery:
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:01 PM
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Why would she be interred here? Why not in the Los Angeles or San Diego area where most of her life was spent? Brentwood (NOT 90049, the affluent section of Los Angeles) where this cemetery is located is in the East Bay area of Contra Costa County. Is that perhaps the home of her alleged father? I have seen nothing to indicate that she had friends, family or other connections there.
Exactly. The father SEEMED to be based in Oregon. Who knows now.
Quote:
Search results on findagrave.com list 1224 individuals buried at Union Cemetery but none with a last name of Haley. So that just leads to additional questions.
Unfortunately, they probably won't update those listings for months. I have a lot of genealogical experience, so I'm used to the cemetery/records stuff.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:08 PM
Quote:Quote:
Search results on findagrave.com list 1224 individuals buried at Union Cemetery but none with a last name of Haley. So that just leads to additional questions.
Unfortunately, they probably won't update those listings for months. I have a lot of genealogical experience, so I'm used to the cemetery/records stuff.
I think he means that there are no OTHER Haleys in the Brentwood Cemetery.
It might make sense for her to be there if there were a family plot/crypt/presence.
Since her mom is from Mexico and likely has no roots in Brentwood, and there are no Haleys in Brentwood, why is she being buried "alone"?
Posted by: zenman
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:09 PM
Here's a Kenneth George Haley with Berkeley (in the general vicinity of Brentwood) cited as a city of residence at some point. My experience with these people searches is that places are the least reliable component.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:09 PM
I've just been kindly provided with a copy of Haley's current driver's license. She's still a resident of Southern California. Jim, if you can use this address let me know.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:15 PM
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I think he means that there are no OTHER Haleys in the Brentwood Cemetery.
Yes, I get what he means. Just saying they'll eventually be updated, just not soon. So if she is in fact alone, she'll be listed in a while. Hell, given what sounds like happened to her over the years, I wouldn't be surprised if she were buried alone.
Posted by: Nathanial Mayweather
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:16 PM
I guess you guys all ignored my post and second post on the FACT the Bahai must buried one hours travel time from the city of their death.
Sherlock Holmes or Occam's Razor-A rule in science and philosophy stating that entities should not be multiplied needlessly. This rule is interpreted to mean that the simplest of two or more competing theories is preferable and that an explanation for unknown phenomena should first be attempted in terms of what is already known.
It's simple.
Heroin PLUS guns(insert turmoil, confusion...what ever)MINUS
Support system(insert Family, REAL FRIENDS, A...CHICO WANG) EQUALS...
ONE TITS UP DEAD
EX PORN WHORE.
Sherlock Holmes or Occam's Razor-A rule in science and philosophy stating that entities should not be multiplied needlessly. This rule is interpreted to mean that the simplest of two or more competing theories is preferable and that an explanation for unknown phenomena should first be attempted in terms of what is already known.
It's simple.
Heroin PLUS guns(insert turmoil, confusion...what ever)MINUS
Support system(insert Family, REAL FRIENDS, A...CHICO WANG) EQUALS...
ONE TITS UP DEAD
EX PORN WHORE.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:18 PM
I've ckecked three different versions of SSDI (different companies update at different intervals.) Closest was a "Miriam" Haley in Colorado. Too old to be her.
I've found nothing on Lexis. I suppose I could dig up some stuff on the Del Homo and Wanker cases, but I don't see how they would help the search. I think that would only confuse the issue.
Yeah, Charlie, PM me the address. I don't know what good it will do, but it can't hurt.
I've found nothing on Lexis. I suppose I could dig up some stuff on the Del Homo and Wanker cases, but I don't see how they would help the search. I think that would only confuse the issue.
Yeah, Charlie, PM me the address. I don't know what good it will do, but it can't hurt.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:18 PM
Quote:
Here's a Kenneth George Haley with Berkeley (in the general vicinity of Brentwood) cited as a city of residence at some point. My experience with these people searches is that places are the least reliable component.
Estimate Driving Distance ~50 miles
Estimate Driving Time ~1 hour
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:20 PM
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I guess you guys all ignored my post and second post on the FACT the Bahai must buried one hours travel time from the city of their death.
OR, some hoaxer thought "Union Cemetery, Brentwood" was in L.A.!
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:24 PM
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I guess you guys all ignored my post and second post on the FACT the Bahai must buried one hours travel time from the city of their death.
OR, some hoaxer thought "Union Cemetery, Brentwood" was in L.A.!
EXACTLY!!
Posted by: zenman
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:25 PM
OK Brentwood is not exactly adjacent to Berkeley, but if he comes from Berkeley, the family is not necessarily confined to the city limits, but scattered throughout the metro area, meaning that plenty of family members might consider Brentwood "close enough". Plus it may just be a cheap place to bury someone.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:27 PM
Karma, we have no real evidence she actually was a Bahai. As far as i know, that story only turned up after her alleged "death." Seems to me, given that Bahai is such an unusual religion for a half-mexician porn whore to be, that info would have come out sooner, either on her MySpace, or in a BTS or something. Unique information always will out.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:36 PM
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OK Brentwood is not exactly adjacent to Berkeley, but if he comes from Berkeley, the family is not necessarily confined to the city limits, but scattered throughout the metro area, meaning that plenty of family members might consider Brentwood "close enough". Plus it may just be a cheap place to bury someone.
Zen, you misunderstood my posting of the picture.
I noted it since it is within range.
Posted by: Nathanial Mayweather
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:36 PM
Jim, she said in interviews of two years ago she was from a Bahai family, when she FIRST accused her parents of knowingly letting her uncle rape her.
Click Here
Whats so EXTRAORDINARY about a porn whore OD'ing on smack. We know she was and addict. We know she was woefully USED many people she knew. Fuck. We KNOW she BLAMED HER FAMILY for her plights. FUCK.
Why wouldn't she want to die?
Click Here
Whats so EXTRAORDINARY about a porn whore OD'ing on smack. We know she was and addict. We know she was woefully USED many people she knew. Fuck. We KNOW she BLAMED HER FAMILY for her plights. FUCK.
Why wouldn't she want to die?
Posted by: Gunker
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:40 PM
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:43 PM
Believe me, a lot of the cops I know are more Keystone than us. We might actually solve this...
Posted by: zenman
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:56 PM
Quote:Quote:
OK Brentwood is not exactly adjacent to Berkeley, but if he comes from Berkeley, the family is not necessarily confined to the city limits, but scattered throughout the metro area, meaning that plenty of family members might consider Brentwood "close enough". Plus it may just be a cheap place to bury someone.
Zen, you misunderstood my posting of the picture.
I noted it since it is within range.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 09:59 PM
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Believe me, a lot of the cops I know are more Keystone than us. We might actually solve this...
Charlie's right. You should see some of the cops I've had to deal with professionally. I'm surprised the knuckles weren't dragging on the ground.
Karma, thanks for the Bahai info, but that page looks a little fishy to me.
Sure, there's an arguement for her wanting to be dead. But we've seen examples before of whores who have faked their deaths in order to get out of the life. Neither is unlikely. And I love a good mystery.
Posted by: Monstar
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 10:02 PM
oh you mutha fuckas be on the case...reminds me of the old JKP thread.
i fell asleep, wake up and find this thread has exploded....
i fell asleep, wake up and find this thread has exploded....
Posted by: smutspov
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 10:04 PM
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Jim, she said in interviews of two years ago she was from a Bahai family, when she FIRST accused her parents of knowingly letting her uncle rape her.
Click Here
Whats so EXTRAORDINARY about a porn whore OD'ing on smack. We know she was and addict. We know she was woefully USED many people she knew. Fuck. We KNOW she BLAMED HER FAMILY for her plights. FUCK.
Why wouldn't she want to die?
Yeah right, looks like a blog that nobody gives a fuck about, so if we can't trust Luke, why the fuck would we consider sex driver a trusted "source"? I don't.
Posted by: *L*G*
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 10:11 PM
xpt i better than any tv series, when things are turning boring, some shit explode 
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 10:29 PM
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Yeah right, looks like a blog that nobody gives a fuck about, so if we can't trust Luke, why the fuck would we consider sex driver a trusted "source"? I don't.
Tell you the truth, it looks like one of S&^%$tt's sites.
There's an old HardCoreGossip interview that someone posted to XPT HERE that I found through the Wiki Talk page. It seems that she was raised a Bahai, but as an adult considers them to be a "cult." Aparantly, she no longer considers herself to be a Bahai in the same manner as I no longer consider myself to be a Christian.
It also seems that all the bullshit on the Wiki talk page was less Internal Politics as usual as it was that two of the editors were Bahai and wanted no mention of the religion on her page.
Posted by: JRV
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 10:30 PM
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Whats so EXTRAORDINARY about a porn whore OD'ing on smack.
Well, it doesn't happen very often. They usually die from an auto accident. The ones I can remember OD'ing did so long after leaving porn. That's not to say there aren't a lot vying to be the first in recent times...
On 8/17 Skronker @ ADT posted that the latest rumor he'd heard was that Chico had skipped out of the country and nobody knew where Haley was. A couple of days ago he said "They are said to be in Mexico, with someone else's rental car." Skronker isn't trying to be definite here, but I'd still bet his third-hand rumor is better than most of the other rumors we're hearing.
It's possible Haley quit porn and just left. It seems unlikely she'd go back to dad, perhaps not bothering to even tell him. Especially if she's helping Chico skip bail for whatever insane reason. If she wants out let her be, but we'll just have to see where this leads, if anywhere.
PS. A fake Wiki death notice and a nudge to Luke to make sure he saw it would be the Internet-era way of staging a fake death, if you didn't think too much about the possibilities of online public records...
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 10:41 PM
JRV, I respect Skronk. He's one of the few people over there that has his head on his shoulders and the least likely to go running "Chicken Little" over the latest internet rumor...
...But I'm not buying it. For two reasons:
1) I have a hard time believing she'd help Wang in any way, let alone go on the lam with him; and
2) I just don't think Wang has the balls to run South of the Border. He's too afraid of his old man to risk them losing the bond, which I believe was half-a-mil. He's more afraid of his father than the boys in San Quentin.
BTW: Wang just posted here the other day, in his "Henry Black" disguise, giving some seriously incorrect information regarding Gregg Allen & Greg Alves. Maybe Tony can check the IP and see where it was from?
...But I'm not buying it. For two reasons:
1) I have a hard time believing she'd help Wang in any way, let alone go on the lam with him; and
2) I just don't think Wang has the balls to run South of the Border. He's too afraid of his old man to risk them losing the bond, which I believe was half-a-mil. He's more afraid of his father than the boys in San Quentin.
BTW: Wang just posted here the other day, in his "Henry Black" disguise, giving some seriously incorrect information regarding Gregg Allen & Greg Alves. Maybe Tony can check the IP and see where it was from?
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/28/07 11:02 PM
Let's not forget that the original Wiki/Luke death story includes Chico's death too...
Are we focusing too much on the victim here?
Are we focusing too much on the victim here?
Posted by: mallocup
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 04:19 AM
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oh you mutha fuckas be on the case...reminds me of the old JKP thread.
i fell asleep, wake up and find this thread has exploded....
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Posted by: the unknown pervert
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 06:56 AM
I'm kind of new to this stuff here. Which one of XPT's Starskys and Hutchs gets to put the little red flashing light on the roof of the Torino?
Posted by: gia jordan
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 07:52 AM
Look. Guys. We know the question is rather this is a hoax or not, but his whole obsession with it is unsettling bordering pathetic. Let's wind this thread up to an end.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 08:13 AM
The real question here is whether Haley is dead or not. Maybe that wouldn't matter so much, or be worthy of a long thread, if she were just another retired porn chick. However, I'd say this is potentially the most interesting developing story involving the porn industry, mostly because of her past/present with Del Toro AND Wang. The latter is involved in a still unresolved criminal case, so it's NEWS. Which is a hell of a lot more than the usual diddling that goes on here. I'm going to stop researching this when I learn whether it's a perverse hoax or a tragic death. I won't post any further personal info I find.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 08:25 AM
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The latter is involved in a still unresolved criminal case, so it's NEWS.
More to the point, it's an unresolved crime of violence wherein Haley Page is the alleged victim and presumably the chief witness against him.
Charlie's right. This isn't just some mass moblem-ization here, and I doubt any of us are beating off to her purported corpse.
There are legitimate questions here: Is she dead, and, if so, how? Was it suicide? OD? Or did Wang bump her off? If she's alive, why did she fake her death? To get out of the life once and for all? To avoid having to testify? To keep Luke from outing her years down the road? Serious questins, indeed.
For my part, I, too, will not post any personal information I may find beyond whether or not she's dead. I may, however, share that info with the LA County District Attorney's Office, since they will probably need to file a material witness order at this point.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 08:38 AM
Jim, please hand me the little red flashing light.
Posted by: k1ng
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 09:20 AM
I'm looking forward to the conclusion of this mystery.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 09:43 AM
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PS. A fake Wiki death notice and a nudge to Luke to make sure he saw it would be the Internet-era way of staging a fake death,
I'm with you, JRV.
Bullshit.
Bullshit.
Bullshit.
Bullshit.
If Kensabe was REALLY searching the blogs to uncover information on "his daughter" how come he's not searching/asking on ADT? Wouldn't that be the place to ask/search? Why on such an obscure board?
Go get 'em, guys!!!
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 09:45 AM
btw, is anyone emailing the guy from the cemetery in Brentwood?
He could confirm/deny burial.
He could confirm/deny burial.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 09:48 AM
Well c'mon then Fatman. You've got to do your part, too. 
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 09:52 AM
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If Kensabe was REALLY searching the blogs to uncover information on "his daughter" how come he's not searching/asking on ADT? Wouldn't that be the place to ask/search? Why on such an obscure board?
I can't fathom the odds involved in an innocent father stumbling upon THAT page, posting this:
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Haley Paige passed from this life on August 21, 2007. In the company of Chico Wang. Who ya gonna blame?
And then, after having professed to having ZERO knowledge of her past, refer to the porn industry in this manner:
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Her mother and I (we’re divorced) did not know she was in the business until just a few weeks before her passing.
THE BUSINESS.
Hmmm....
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 09:56 AM
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btw, is anyone emailing the guy from the cemetery in Brentwood?
He could confirm/deny burial.
I intend to call the cemetery records office Monday. From experience, they tend to be VERY hesitant to give that info to the public. Much has changed in the past 10 years regarding this info, which used to be handed out freely, largely because of invasion-of-privacy laws stemming from the AIDS crisis.
Posted by: smutspov
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 09:59 AM
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Look. Guys. We know the question is rather this is a hoax or not, but his whole obsession with it is unsettling bordering pathetic. Let's wind this thread up to an end.
Totally....time to move on before this thread gets anymore retarded, but Charlie made a good point in that maybe the focus should be on where the fuck Chico is. Truth will out and I'm audi 5000 on this topic for now.
Posted by: zenman
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 10:11 AM
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Look. Guys. We know the question is rather this is a hoax or not, but his whole obsession with it is unsettling bordering pathetic. Let's wind this thread up to an end.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 10:26 AM
Quote:Quote:
Look. Guys. We know the question is rather this is a hoax or not, but his whole obsession with it is unsettling bordering pathetic. Let's wind this thread up to an end.
Totally....time to move on before this thread gets anymore retarded, but Charlie made a good point in that maybe the focus should be on where the fuck Chico is. Truth will out and I'm audi 5000 on this topic for now.
The way I look at it is this: Let those related or peripherally related to this issue and story ferret out the details. Or, you can let some Rolling Stone or Esquire feature writer do it. Remember, that guy will likely know NOTHING about this industry. You can let that twat bollocks it all up, or bear with this thread.
If Haley is dead, the story will probably not go away for a while, particularly should it be picked up by the mainstream media. Who knows what has happened here?! I worked on a big feature article about Savannah when she killed herself. It started a bit more melodramatically than this, but it had legs no one expected at the time.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 10:31 AM
I don't really understand complaining about thread contents.
You don't like it, next time you see the title, go to the next one ...
You don't like it, next time you see the title, go to the next one ...
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 10:36 AM
Right. I'm currently ignoring Cindy v. Warp, among others.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 10:42 AM
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The way I look at it is this: Let those related or peripherally related to this issue and story ferret out the details. Or, you can let some Rolling Stone or Esquire feature writer do it. Remember, that guy will likely know NOTHING about this industry. You can let that twat bollocks it all up, or bear with this thread.
And, bottom line, since Luke refuses to do his job, it's up to us to do it for him.
Posted by: smutspov
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 10:43 AM
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Look. Guys. We know the question is rather this is a hoax or not, but his whole obsession with it is unsettling bordering pathetic. Let's wind this thread up to an end.
Totally....time to move on before this thread gets anymore retarded, but Charlie made a good point in that maybe the focus should be on where the fuck Chico is. Truth will out and I'm audi 5000 on this topic for now.
The way I look at it is this: Let those related or peripherally related to this issue and story ferret out the details. Or, you can let some Rolling Stone or Esquire feature writer do it. Remember, that guy will likely know NOTHING about this industry. You can let that twat bollocks it all up, or bear with this thread.
If Haley is dead, the story will probably not go away for a while, particularly should it be picked up by the mainstream media. Who knows what has happened here?! I worked on a big feature article about Savannah when she killed herself. It started a bit more melodramatically then this, but it had legs no one expected at the time.
Yeah sounds reasonable, some mainstream hack might jump on it. I'd investigate, but I'm dealing with other deadlines and my own spiraling downward. lol. I'd like to check out that Savannah article out, bro. Where was it printed?
Posted by: Nathanial Mayweather
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 10:51 AM
It fascinates me that certain designated spectators who deign to be here , even though it's the lot in life they have chosen, always try "shut" down certain "trash" and not others. Fuck, if you don't like the thread then DON'T READ IT.
Porn whore abused. Porn whore used. Porn whore may or may not have died from suicide or homicide. Shit, this is the type of story iniquitous TV news magazine try to manufacture. Quit trying to ruin other peoples fun because of your hubris.
The only good whore is a DEAD WHORE.
Porn whore abused. Porn whore used. Porn whore may or may not have died from suicide or homicide. Shit, this is the type of story iniquitous TV news magazine try to manufacture. Quit trying to ruin other peoples fun because of your hubris.
The only good whore is a DEAD WHORE.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 10:51 AM
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Yo, I'd like to check out that Savannah article out, bro.
It's in an old issue of CELEBRITY SKIN. I'll see if I can find a copy. My reporter got onto the crime scene posing as an insurance investigator. He got photos and some stuff that really shocked us. Rolling Stone picked it up, used all our research after our story appeared, thanked us for it on letterhead, and then got most of the credit. Typical.
Posted by: smutspov
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 10:52 AM
Quote:
It fascinates me that certain designated spectators who deign to be here , even though it's the lot in life they have chosen, always try "shut" down certain "trash" and not others. Fuck, if you don't like the thread then DON'T READ IT.
Porn whore abused. Porn whore used. Porn whore may or may not have died from suicide or homicide. Shit, this is the type of story iniquitous TV news magazine try to manufacture. Quit trying to ruin other peoples fun because of your hubris.
The only good whore is a DEAD WHORE.
drop dead.
Posted by: damaged
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 11:28 AM
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Yo, I'd like to check out that Savannah article out, bro.
It's in an old issue of CELEBRITY SKIN. I'll see if I can find a copy. My reporter got onto the crime scene posing as an insurance investigator. He got photos and some stuff that really shocked us. Rolling Stone picked it up, used all our research after our story appeared, thanked us for it on letterhead, and then got most of the credit. Typical.
I thought Rolling Stone did a big article in about '94 also.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 11:30 AM
That's the article which used our original research, as referred to above.
Posted by: gia jordan
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 11:31 AM
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Look. Guys. We know the question is rather this is a hoax or not, but his whole obsession with it is unsettling bordering pathetic. Let's wind this thread up to an end.
I meant 'this whole obsession.' Not 'his'. Edit function time expired on me.
Posted by: Walrus
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 02:10 PM
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It fascinates me that certain designated spectators who deign to be here , even though it's the lot in life they have chosen, always try "shut" down certain "trash" and not others. Fuck, if you don't like the thread then DON'T READ IT.
Porn whore abused. Porn whore used. Porn whore may or may not have died from suicide or homicide. Shit, this is the type of story iniquitous TV news magazine try to manufacture. Quit trying to ruin other peoples fun because of your hubris.
The only good whore is a DEAD WHORE.
drop dead.
Before we start asking other people to die can we confirm that Haley Page is indeed on the wrong side of the grass?
Posted by: Postmortem
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 02:32 PM
Hailey now resides in San Felipe.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 02:36 PM
And you know this how?
Posted by: Postmortem
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 02:45 PM
Henry Black.
Give me 5 stars, Jim. Do it now.
Give me 5 stars, Jim. Do it now.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 02:53 PM
I'll give you half an orange rind.
Henry Black, eh? Tell me, what else did Inkyo happen to mention?
Henry Black, eh? Tell me, what else did Inkyo happen to mention?
Posted by: Postmortem
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 03:00 PM
I don't know Mr. Black personally, so I don't know what else he has to say. My source is actually a former equestrian who knows Haley and Black quite well.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 03:09 PM
An equestrian?
Hmmm...
Hmmm...
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 03:16 PM
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I don't know Mr. Black personally, so I don't know what else he has to say. My source is actually a former equestrian who knows Haley and Black quite well.
Come on, come on. Quit yankin' my chain. D'you expect me to believe that?
You're talking out your ass again.
Posted by: Postmortem
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 03:32 PM
Hey I'm not saying you guys should stop searching. I am just saying this girl has no reason to lie, and definitely does know (indeed has worked with) the two in question.
She's saying she's talked to Wang. And he's claiming they are both in San Felipe.
We will find this whore...dead or alive.
She's saying she's talked to Wang. And he's claiming they are both in San Felipe.
We will find this whore...dead or alive.
Posted by: Walrus
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 03:53 PM
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She's saying she's talked to Wang. And he's claiming they are both in San Felipe.
I thought everyone said Wang was out on bond. Wouldn't leaving the country be a violation? I would think he's smarter then to leave. Dog the Bounty Hunter isn't afraid to goto Mexico.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 04:08 PM
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She's saying she's talked to Wang. And he's claiming they are both in San Felipe.
I thought everyone said Wang was out on bond. Wouldn't leaving the country be a violation? I would think he's smarter then to leave. Dog the Bounty Hunter isn't afraid to goto Mexico.
Inkyo is out on either a Mil or Half-A-Mil bond put up by his old man.
Haley is the key witness against him.
I have seen many --too many-- cases where the victim of Domestic Violence goes back to her abuser and tries to get the charges dropped. That's why discretion is not the victim's. Rather, it belongs to "The People Of The State Of California," i.e. the DA. This is also why, in NYC at least, we take numerous photos and other records of the victims, in case they suddenly decide to make themselves "unavailable." Under that scenario, I can easily see her skipping down to Baja.
Wang is a different story.
From every account I've ever heard of this skell, he is deathly afraid of his father. So much so that, after all these years, he is terrified that the old man finds out what he does for a living.
Given the choice of skipping bail and costing the old man a million bucks, or going back to jail and getting sodomized by the Bloods and the Crips, I truly believe Inkyo would go back to jail. His fear of his father is that great.
She may be in San Felipe, but she's not there with Inkyo.
Posted by: Ivor Biggun
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 05:35 PM
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Given the choice of skipping bail and costing the old man a million bucks, or going back to jail and getting sodomized by the Bloods and the Crips, I truly believe Inkyo would go back to jail. His fear of his father is that great.
Wang claimed the charges were dropped. He may have been telling the truth. The information on lasd.org is ambiguous, it only shows the charge, a $1M bond and his release date. There is no information on any future court hearings or any clear indication whether his release was on payment of that bond, or because the matter was dropped.
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 05:42 PM
The release was on payment of the bond, though that does not mean the charges weren't subsequently dropped. Again, that decision is up to the DA and not Haley Page. I'd think, though, that given our moral leader's level of interest in the case when he was first arrested, he'd have paid the $4.95 to keep tabs on the case via the LA County Superior Court's website. :Hint Hint The Sabbath Is Over Luke Get To Work Hint Hint:
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 05:52 PM
***STAY TUNED FOR BREAKING DEVELOPMENTS***
Posted by: Dane
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/29/07 07:11 PM
i can't wait for you to get to the bottom of this. just sort this whole mess out
Posted by: methisdeth
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/30/07 01:21 PM
Wang is a different story.
From every account I've ever heard of this skell, he is deathly afraid of his father. So much so that, after all these years, he is terrified that the old man finds out what he does for a living.
Given the choice of skipping bail and costing the old man a million bucks, or going back to jail and getting sodomized by the Bloods and the Crips, I truly believe Inkyo would go back to jail. His fear of his father is that great.
She may be in San Felipe, but she's not there with Inkyo.
An un-dated file photo of Inkyo and his father. Note the sword to the throat. You'd be deathly afraid too! Bad Inkyo, bad!
Posted by: zenman
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/30/07 03:50 PM
Maybe Inkyo is on the run from the law and he and Haley made up the story of her death to they could run off to San Felipe, which would be one of the worst places they could go because of its popularity with Americans on Spring Break
Posted by: lame or cool
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/30/07 04:05 PM
lame
Posted by: Ivor Biggun
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/30/07 05:08 PM
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Digital Porklink
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Domain Name: MARYAMHALEY.COM
Administrative Contact:
Wang, Wanker wankerwang@yahoo.com
8813 Owensmouth #4
canoga park, CA 91304
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8183351854
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Wang, Wanker wankerwang@yahoo.com
8813 Owensmouth #4
canoga park, CA 91304
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Record expires on 07-13-2009
Record created on 07-13-2007
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/30/07 05:14 PM
To say the least...
Posted by: Desert_N8iv
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/30/07 05:42 PM
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I intend to call the cemetery records office Monday. From experience, they tend to be VERY hesitant to give that info to the public. Much has changed in the past 10 years regarding this info, which used to be handed out freely, largely because of invasion-of-privacy laws stemming from the AIDS crisis.
If there is an invasion-of-privacy issue concerning the disclosure of this information, then perhaps the cemetery rep would be less hesitant to simply confirm that she is NOT buried there.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/30/07 05:50 PM
I would fully expect them NOT to reveal the info over the phone.
Posted by: Desert_N8iv
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/30/07 06:04 PM
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[Inkyo is out on either a Mil or Half-A-Mil bond put up by his old man.
Haley is the key witness against him.
I have seen many --too many-- cases where the victim of Domestic Violence goes back to her abuser and tries to get the charges dropped. That's why discretion is not the victim's. Rather, it belongs to "The People Of The State Of California," i.e. the DA. This is also why, in NYC at least, we take numerous photos and other records of the victims, in case they suddenly decide to make themselves "unavailable."
The same photo evidence procedure is done by California Law enforcement agencies in domestic violence cases.
Posted by: Ivor Biggun
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/30/07 07:35 PM
It looks true. She died of a Heroin overdose.
Too much to go into, and nothing by itself conclusive, but all the people making claims of her death seem to check out. This includes some stuff from years ago. The clearest sign yet is Mackenzee Pierce's post here, on Lubben's blog. The photo that looks fake is probably just a result of bright sunlight and the photographic settings her father had to use to capture it. It can't hurt to find her death certificate, but taking everything together, I'm going with Occam's Razor. I'd love to think she faked her death, but it's just too fucking elaborate.
Now can someone please reassure me that she was really just another self-centered, lying whore who led herself to her own demise? Otherwise it's gonna bother me to remember her early scenes with that deer-in-the-headlights look that seemed too good to be faked, and the whole Del Toro thing that backed up the impression of a sweet girl hopelessly out of her depth. Tell me I was a sucker, please.
RIP Maryam.
Too much to go into, and nothing by itself conclusive, but all the people making claims of her death seem to check out. This includes some stuff from years ago. The clearest sign yet is Mackenzee Pierce's post here, on Lubben's blog. The photo that looks fake is probably just a result of bright sunlight and the photographic settings her father had to use to capture it. It can't hurt to find her death certificate, but taking everything together, I'm going with Occam's Razor. I'd love to think she faked her death, but it's just too fucking elaborate.
Now can someone please reassure me that she was really just another self-centered, lying whore who led herself to her own demise? Otherwise it's gonna bother me to remember her early scenes with that deer-in-the-headlights look that seemed too good to be faked, and the whole Del Toro thing that backed up the impression of a sweet girl hopelessly out of her depth. Tell me I was a sucker, please.
RIP Maryam.
Posted by: Dick Dastardly
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/30/07 10:15 PM
Not sure if anyone else caught this, but...
Jasmine is a pretty hot lil' piece of ass, too. I wonder what was fucked up in her life that she decided to spread eagle for cash?
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She got into the adult entertainment industry in 2000 while living in San Diego[5] at the age of nineteen when she answered a newspaper advertisement for nude modeling. At the time, she worked at Blockbuster and admitted that she needed money to pay rent.
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Listen, ANY female doing porn is troubled in some way. Anything can happen. I'm waiting for credible information/evidence on this one. That's all.
Jasmine is a pretty hot lil' piece of ass, too. I wonder what was fucked up in her life that she decided to spread eagle for cash?
Posted by: k1ng
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/30/07 10:20 PM
does this mean I should delete all her scenes off my hd?
Posted by: Anonymous
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/30/07 10:23 PM
Nah. Just send 'em to Moblem. 
Posted by: lame or cool
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/30/07 10:23 PM
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It looks true. She died of a Heroin overdose.
lame
she was cool
Posted by: Dick Dastardly
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 09/30/07 11:12 PM
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Here's a Kenneth George Haley with Berkeley (in the general vicinity of Brentwood) cited as a city of residence at some point. My experience with these people searches is that places are the least reliable component.
And Bisbee, Arizona - IIRC - is damn near the US/Mexico border, too.
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I guess you guys all ignored my post and second post on the FACT the Bahai must buried one hours travel time from the city of their death.
Not really, I think they were just ignoring you in general. However, one hour's drive could entail as little as driving 6 miles across LA in rush hour traffic, too.
Posted by: Postmortem
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 10/02/07 01:47 PM
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Maybe Inkyo is on the run from the law and he and Haley made up the story of her death to they could run off to San Felipe, which would be one of the worst places they could go because of its popularity with Americans on Spring Break
With all due respect, moderator, Spring Break's not exactly around the corner.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 10/02/07 01:51 PM
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Spring Break's not exactly around the corner.
Well ... maybe in Australia ...
Posted by: zenman
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 10/02/07 05:15 PM
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Maybe Inkyo is on the run from the law and he and Haley made up the story of her death to they could run off to San Felipe, which would be one of the worst places they could go because of its popularity with Americans on Spring Break
With all due respect, moderator, Spring Break's not exactly around the corner.
If it's big at Spring Break there can be Americans there any time, like Cancun.
Posted by: *L*G*
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 12:06 AM
bump
because the post still alive and her daddy is still doing comments
http://www.bastardly.com/haley-paige-at-avn-2006-in-las-vegas
because the post still alive and her daddy is still doing comments
http://www.bastardly.com/haley-paige-at-avn-2006-in-las-vegas
Posted by: Dean Wormer
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 01:00 AM
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She enjoyed directing attention to herself, usually in innocent ways, which would explain her enjoying performing. But she also knew when people and situations were unhealthy, and in her last few days told her mother that she wanted out of the relationship with Chico. She must have been completely burned out with that lifestyle, but was obligated to go back for some reason. Although she didn't die of a drug overdose, and I don't believe she was using heroin as Chico claimed, she was taking methadone and probably didn't have a way to pay for it on her own. She asked me for money while she was at her mom's place just before going back to Chico, and I sent her a couple hundred dollars. Chico had also tried to get money out of me. I wonder if they both were somewhat broke, and she was contemplating another movie to raise money. At the same time, her spirit seemed to have been broken, and she had little hope of breaking away from the lifestyle she had come to detest. What she needed was a lifeline. Her parents tried to throw her one, but it was too thin to do much good. She had fallen too deep into the hell hole that Chico Wang had dug for her. She needed a hundred lifelines, and given time, I think her friends and family could have come to her rescue.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 11:13 AM
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230. kensabe
Hi everyone. I just communicated with Maryam's mother who said she got the official autopsy report. Officially, Maryam's cause of death is UNKNOWN. There were no signs of trauma on her body and she only had trace amounts of tylenol in her system. She had no other drugs in her system. According to the report, her cause of death is a mystery. That sure doesn't bring a lot of closure to any of us, but it does answer the main question about a drug overdose.
Mark, as far as I know Maryam didn't attend AA meetings, and probably wouldn't have done so in northern California. What she needed probably during her time with Chico was good friends who could help her get out of that relationship. However, I don't blame any of her friends in or out of the industry who weren't able to save her, because it's almost impossible to get someone to change lifestyles or get out of a destructive relationship. I certainly could have done more for her myself.
Maryanne, thank you for your kind words. I loved your kick-ass comments to the joker.
Joker, I'm a little afraid to find out who you are if it's true I know you. If you can desist from the trash talk, I wouldn't mind communicating with you. I'm open-minded but not a masochist.
Love to you all.
Saturday, July 26th, 2008 @ 2:16pm
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I'll give you the information that I have so you can weigh it against credibility. Maryam's mother told me about the autopsy report, though I don't think she would have lied to me. I did see the hospital report, which also indicated no narcotics or intoxicants in her system. Maryam's mother told me that she helped prepare Maryam's body for burial just before the funeral, and there were no marks anywhere on her body. In the weeks before her death she apparently was traveling with Chico, and they were on their way back to L.A. when they stopped for a night in King City just south of San Jose. Chico told the authorities that he noticed Maryam was not breathing early in the morning and called the motel office, and then took her to the ER in the rental car they were driving. I'm not sure if she was still alive when she was admitted to the ER. The police held Chico for a few hours, maybe overnight, because the rental car they were using had been reported stolen, since the car was overdue to be turned in. The police didn't hold him very long, though. I never heard what kind of suspicions they had, but apparently there was not enough evidence to charge Chico with any crime.
Maryam had strong will power. One theory I have is that she felt she could not break away from Chico, and willed herself to die. That sounds far-fetched, but knowing her, if she wanted something bad enough she usually found a way to get it. She may not have done anything physical to provoke her own death, but her desire to live may have vanished, at least for a period of time, long enough for her to just give up. I can't think of any other explanation, not yet anyway. The mystery deepens a bit knowing that he committed suicide about a month later by overdosing on methadone. It is my understanding that Maryam was taking a methadone medication as treatment for an oxycontin addiction. Did he overdose on her pills? And why didn't she have any methadone in her system? I don't think the police or the autopsy report would have covered up an overdose on her part and quickly establish one for him. After Chico died, I don't think the police wanted to spend any more time on the case, so we probably won't find out what their investigation had turned up to that point.
I know I'll want to learn more about the circumstances of her death later, when I'm over the denial stage. That will begin an even more painful stage of grief, because I won't have the sanctuary of the fantasy that she might still be alive. When it finally hits home that she is truly gone, then I'll want to know more about her final days. I can hardly wait for the fun to begin.
Wednesday, July 30th, 2008 @ 12:56am
Posted by: Darrah
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 04:59 PM
He kidnapped and beat her a month earlier. Her father reportedly says Chico was in the room when she died. So isn't it just safe to say he did somehow murder her?
Posted by: Jigaloo
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 05:00 PM
No.
Posted by: ivorenginedriver
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 05:20 PM
Hwang's suicide cut short the investigation into Maryam Haley's death. One would have to see hard, forensic evidence to draw any reasonable conclusion. Hopefully some enterprising journalist will obtain access to the forensic evidence.
Posted by: Darrah
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 05:49 PM
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Hwang's suicide cut short the investigation into Maryam Haley's death.
Exactly. The main suspect is dead and they didn't want to spend anymore time on the case, which they should have. Maybe others were involved with him. We'll never know. But they did say she had no track marks on her. He could have done so much to her without leaving any visible evidence.
Posted by: Jigaloo
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 05:50 PM
I wish your dad had injected you with drugs or even household cleaners. Maybe he did which is why you're so fucked in the head?
Posted by: Darrah
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 05:53 PM
Your parents must have injected you with rat poison then!
Posted by: Jigaloo
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 05:57 PM
What a comeback. 
Posted by: Smell of Anus
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 05:58 PM
Every thread she has to ruin...
Posted by: ivorenginedriver
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 06:01 PM
Darrah-someone who wants to get to the truth of the matter ought to get access to the reports that contain the relevant forensic evidence.
Posted by: Darrah
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 06:06 PM
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Darrah-someone who wants to get to the truth of the matter ought to get access to the reports that contain the relevant forensic evidence.
Most people I contact never reply back.
Posted by: Smell of Anus
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 06:07 PM
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Darrah-someone who wants to get to the truth of the matter ought to get access to the reports that contain the relevant forensic evidence.
Most people I contact never reply back.
Ever wonder WHY?
Posted by: Jigaloo
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 06:07 PM
Gee I wonder why?
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 06:08 PM
If that forensic data resides only in a police lab, it will never be released to the public. There was no indictment, and no release of evidence, so an enterprising journalist would have to obtain this info via a leak, at best. That's unlikely to happen.
Posted by: Jigaloo
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 06:11 PM
Be careful Charlie, you might be accused of killing Haley.
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 06:14 PM
No kidding! I am enjoying the current tone of expertise on a story that I broke. 
Posted by: Darrah
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 06:17 PM
How long are you going to hold the Mike Albo thing over my head? 
Posted by: Jigaloo
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 06:18 PM
Posted by: Charlie Malloy
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 06:20 PM
The only thing I am going to hold over your head is your pooping around on this story, which you really don't know anything about.
Posted by: Darrah
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 06:28 PM
I know I know nothing about this case. I only know what I've read. I didn't research it and might have if I was around a year ago. From what I read, I came to the conclusion he's more than likely guilty. Could be one hundred percent innocent though. I dunno.
Posted by: Jigaloo
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 06:29 PM
Posted by: faceblaster
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 06:34 PM
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I know I know nothing about this case. I dunno.
That's why you're posting about it?
Posted by: ivorenginedriver
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 07:07 PM
Darrah-obviously Hwang was morally culpable in Maryam Haley's death, the tough question is whether there is any forensic evidence indicating homicide.
Posted by: Dick Dastardly
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 08:07 PM
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He kidnapped and beat her a month earlier. Her father reportedly says Chico was in the room when she died. So isn't it just safe to say he did somehow murder her?
Only if you're a wanna-be writer / porn blogger cunt who knows nothing about the industry & likes to disregard facts in light of believing her own story.
Posted by: Spunko
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/22/08 10:44 PM
""Maryam had strong will power. One theory I have is that she felt she could not break away from Chico, and willed herself to die.""
Wait a minute...she didn't have the willpower to break away from Inkyo but she did have the willpower to will herself to death?
Wait a minute...she didn't have the willpower to break away from Inkyo but she did have the willpower to will herself to death?
Posted by: Bravo
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/23/08 12:02 AM
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Darrah-someone who wants to get to the truth of the matter ought to get access to the reports that contain the relevant forensic evidence.
Most people I contact never reply back.
No way.
Posted by: The Ghost Is Toast
Re: Haley Page is dead? - 08/23/08 06:24 AM
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The only thing I am going to hold over your head is your pooping around on this story, which you really don't know anything about.
I'm disappointed Charlie...I was hoping for something more along the lines of 'The only thing I am going to hold over your head is my spread asscheeks as I prepare to drop a deuce on your head.'
