The straight porn industry is homophobic

Posted by: kate

The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 02:41 AM

We all know how the straight porn industry discriminates agains bisexual men by refusing to include male-male interactions in straight porn movies. And yet it allows female-female interactions to co-exist with the heterosexual ones. Talk about sleazy double standards. In real life, there are tons of bisexual men, so start including them in the movies.

Honestly, any woman who participates in this selectively homophobic industry is doing a disservice to the notion of fairness and justice in depictions of human sexuality. Are you really that desperate for drugs, ladies?
Posted by: jamesn

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 02:52 AM

i'm calling you out marc wallice!!!! no dude registers as a chick AND focuses on a shrill campaign of anti-fun about HIV. we've already got our token fake female posters, you'll have to wait for david to leave.


if you want to lecture us and be serious, please let me stab you with 100 needles i found on the streets of fire island and weho.

if you're going to complain about hiv here, we expect you to contract it first. or admit you're marc wallice.
Posted by: pornactorforhire

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 03:12 AM

If it's about HIV, why do they ignore this:

http://www.ucsf.edu/daybreak/1997/08/826_aids.htm:

Quote:

In the nation's largest and longest study of heterosexual HIV transmission, UCSF researchers found... that the practice of anal sex, lack of condom use, injection drug use and the presence of a sexually transmitted disease (STD) are the best predictors of infection.



Posted by: jamesn

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 03:17 AM

pornactor, why do directors and producers and people who work in real porn ignore you?

Posted by: pornactorforhire

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 03:33 AM

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pornactor, why do directors and producers and people who work in real porn ignore you?



speak for yourself; and you don't ignore me
Posted by: jamesn

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 03:55 AM

how could i ignore anything as HILARIOUS as "i'm hung and have a yahoo address, here's a picture of me with money in my pants smoking a cigar like suge knight in sunglasses. OH, BY THE WAY I WON'T TELL YOU MY FILM CREDITS OR STAGE NAME!"


dude, craigslist. try craigslist. craigslist is for free email addy's, sunglasses and hiding your identity.
Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 06:31 AM

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"discriminates agains bisexual men by refusing to include male-male interactions in straight porn movies."



You do know the definition of straight right? Most girls who consider themselves straight still at some point have encounters with other women. Most straight men do not. As much as you'd like it to be they aren't the same thing.
Posted by: Paul Reubens

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 06:46 AM

I really hope this is a woman who is angry at pornography.
Posted by: Soopergrizz

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 08:35 AM

Quote:

Quote:

"discriminates agains bisexual men by refusing to include male-male interactions in straight porn movies."



You do know the definition of straight right? Most girls who consider themselves straight still at some point have encounters with other women. Most straight men do not. As much as you'd like it to be they aren't the same thing.





Let's not lose sight of the fact that the purpose of heterosexual pornography is to facilitate heterosexual men's masturbation, and not to build bridges between the straight and gay communities.

I consider myself gay positive, and have several gay friends. We have very much in common, with the exception of what we enjoy masturbating to. To pretend that our sexual interests are not different - WHEN THEY DEFINE OUR DIFFERENCES - makes no rational sense whatsoever.

The only purpose of your continued attendance here is to shit disturb (no gay pun intended). Since you have nothing useful to say, you are now excused.

Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 08:56 AM

Lance69,

And where did you get your information from? From female porn skags who are encouraged and paid to practise bisexuality for the purpose of pleasing sleazy straight guys? Looks like it.

Face it - male bisexuality is a simple biological fact. No amount of denial by straight porn dimwads is going to change that fact. You scuzzbuckets in the straight porn industry have a gall to deny the existence of male bisexuality. Almost all of you are pathetic losers with the IQ of rancid cabbage.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 09:05 AM

sooperprizz,

I don't give a rat's patootie about your personal preference and fetishes. Whatever turns you on, turns you on.

I'm specifically railing against the selectively homophobic philosophy of the straight porn industry. This philosophy bans any male-male contact whatsoever. Talk about laughable. This is an industry which makes movies that contain both men and women but which specifically prevents the men from touching each other. Don't expect me to come to your aid when the government cracks down on you. I hope you get zilch support from the gay community.

You cry foul when districts and states ban you, yet you yourselves ban the male-male interaction. You're a bunch of hypocritical creeps who deserve everything that comes your way.
Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 09:15 AM

Got my info from every girl in high school who were so arrow straight, then to my surprise I married one of them and my wife has fucked more of those so called straight women than men. And that's saying something. Not to mention 2 years in the industry has given me quite enough access to women who are more attracted and prefer working with women.
Male Bi-sexuality is a fact, no one said it wasn't Nonuts! but it is not anywhere near commonplace as bi-females.
As said before most hetero Porn is made for men, and they like girl/girl. And so do most women who like porn.
You think we're hating on Bi's and Gays but you the one who called us rancid cabbage for not agreeing with your bullshit. It's about selling the product to the consumer, and that's what the consumer wants. Sorry about the hypocrisy caused by your apparent brain damage.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 09:24 AM

lance69,

You're confusing biological facts with the views you have adopted as a result of being involved with the straight porn industry. Biological facts say that male bisexuality is common - in fact, Alfred Kinsey found that more than 50% of men have had same-sex feelings at some stage in their lives. I would rather go by what Kinsey says than by what you say.

As for women wanting to watch female-female action over male-male action, where did you get this from? I have no firm figures myself but, if you go by the number of women who watched Brokeback Mountain just for the kissing scenes, I'd say there's a lot of women who like to watch hot guy-on-guy action.

If you want to have credibility, take my advice: stop pulling assertions out of your ass.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 09:26 AM

Lance 69,

By the way, the porn consumer is not indicative of the American public as a whole.
Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 09:37 AM

Again with the Hypocrisy, You came here looking for a fight because the straight porn industry doesn't put gay scenes in straight porn. Are you comprehending this or no?

And these views were formed long before I entered the porn industry.
If you want gay porn...wait for it.... buy gay porn!
Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 09:42 AM

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Lance 69,

By the way, the porn consumer is not indicative of the American public as a whole.



Who the fuck do you think we are selling too, straight porn is homophobic because it sells a straight related product? Does that mean gay porn discriminates because they don't put straight scenes in thier movies? There is porn for both gay and straight, when did society come into it. Lets take one issue at a time, as I'm sure you have many.
Posted by: jamesn

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 09:45 AM

kate's a gay/bisexual man. if i had to put money on the identity, it's "arthur" from adt who pulled the same schtick until it became so ill-reasoned and grating they canned him.
Posted by: Trent Soluri

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 10:37 AM

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/facts/msm.htm
Posted by: cumalloverher

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 12:35 PM

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We all know how the straight porn industry discriminates agains bisexual men by refusing to include male-male interactions in straight porn movies.




This is a ludicrous statement. Add a trance rave score to any "straight" bukkake or gangbang production and the fallacy of your argument will come into vivid relief.


Posted by: Eddie Normous

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/29/06 07:02 PM

Quote:

Quote:

We all know how the straight porn industry discriminates agains bisexual men by refusing to include male-male interactions in straight porn movies.




This is a ludicrous statement. Add a trance rave score to any "straight" bukkake or gangbang production and the fallacy of your argument will come into vivid relief.







Posted by: Paul Reubens

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/30/06 03:02 AM

Listen up kate,

Porn is for men. We'll put the kind of scenes we want in it. Fuck off and go to sleep.

Sincerely,
Paul Reubens
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/30/06 05:49 AM

Paul Reubens,

I'm going to make sure that male-male interactions are represented in straight porn. If you don't like it, go share your frustrations with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. I'm sure they're on your homophobic wavelength.

You sleazy pieces of crud think that you can determine our sexual culture with your selectively homophobic straight porn ethos. Well, I'm here to say "no". I will not allow you to lie and misreperesnt human sexuality for the sake of a hit of crack cocaine.

Oh, and did I also mention that you should go and fuck yourself?
Posted by: elaborator

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/30/06 05:57 AM

kate = gypsy

Posted by: have2cit

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/30/06 06:19 AM

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Paul Reubens,

I'm going to make sure that male-male interactions are represented in straight porn. If you don't like it, go share your frustrations with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. I'm sure they're on your homophobic wavelength.

You sleazy pieces of crud think that you can determine our sexual culture with your selectively homophobic straight porn ethos. Well, I'm here to say "no". I will not allow you to lie and misreperesnt human sexuality for the sake of a hit of crack cocaine.

Oh, and did I also mention that you should go and fuck yourself?




Kate

bisexual porn is it's own genre. Straight men don't enjoy watching men kissing or having sex with other men. Since straight men purchase straight porn, they generally are the demographic most producers listen to.
Posted by: PainfulAzzFuckin

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/30/06 06:32 AM

I've fucked both types of assholes in my day. Men's are actually an inferior assfucking experience, largely because all men, even homosexual men, are trained from birth in society to withhold emotional outbursts. So homo's are, quite frankly, lousy assfucks. That's why I'm straight now...a woman screams so much louder and gives you so much more pleasure when she squirms her ass around your prick. I don't have any issues with homosexuals, but they are clearly settling on second-best when it comes to the best fucking to be had on the planet. Fine by me, more woman-ass available for the taking with them concentrating on each other and such a patently inferior sexual experience.

Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/30/06 06:36 AM

have2cit,

Straight porn is already bisexual porn. It features female bisexual activity along with the heterosexual activity. And saying that only straight men purchase straight porn is simply circular logic and avoids the issue.

It's my ardent view that there is a large pool of people who would like to see a bit of male bisexual (or even semi-bi) activity here and there in their straight porn. The total ban as it exists now simply has to go. I will embarrass this industry if I have to.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/30/06 06:39 AM

Painful,

To each his own. Whatever turns you on, turns you on. I'm not arguing against the right to have a personal preference.
Posted by: PainfulAzzFuckin

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/30/06 06:40 AM

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sooperprizz,

I'm specifically railing against the selectively homophobic philosophy of the straight porn industry. This philosophy bans any male-male contact whatsoever. Talk about laughable. This is an industry which makes movies that contain both men and women but which specifically prevents the men from touching each other.




Kate, unless all you watch are Vivid flicks, you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Pick almost any DP or gangbang flick you want, and I guarantee you'll see two big dicks rubbing against each other not once or twice, but almost for the whole scene. Male actors "touch" each other all the time. You get two 10" hung studs DP'ing Roxy and I guaran-ass-tee you the cocks (and likely balls) will rub against each other.

Now if you are talking about a dude reaching out and grabbing his buddies prick to help guide him into the woman's fuckhole-du-jour, nope. Haven't seen one of those.

But get your facts straight before you chide the entire industry.
Posted by: have2cit

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/30/06 07:40 AM

Quote:

have2cit,

Straight porn is already bisexual porn. It features female bisexual activity along with the heterosexual activity. And saying that only straight men purchase straight porn is simply circular logic and avoids the issue.

It's my ardent view that there is a large pool of people who would like to see a bit of male bisexual (or even semi-bi) activity here and there in their straight porn. The total ban as it exists now simply has to go. I will embarrass this industry if I have to.




Kate

There is no circular logic involved here. It's capitalism at it's finest. Supply and demand at it's most basic. Most straight men enjoy watching women having sex and don't find it detestable in the least. If there are people who enjoy seeing male on male action there is bi-sexual porn just for that, also if people want to see trannies they have their own genre as well. Don't mix my porn or (like most men) I simply won't buy it. If you want to see certain things in porn there is always someone who will cater to your fetish, so don't worry.
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/30/06 10:33 AM

This is just stupid. Each genre of porn is catered to its fans.

Kate, you state the their is discrimination in straight porn. You want to include male/male scenes in it. Then would you be open to include g/g or IR b/g scenes in gay porn? If not, then your a hypocrite.

If any straight guy wanted gay stuff, he'd buy gay porn.
While your add it, why dont you tell country singers to include dj sampling in their music or hip-hop artists to use blast beats and double bass drummers? They are discriminating, arent they?

Posted by: John Floofin

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/30/06 11:36 AM

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It's my ardent view that there is a large pool of people who would like to see a bit of male bisexual (or even semi-bi) activity here and there in their straight porn.




If such videos were as desirable as you suggest, they would be commonplace on the store shelves. I just don't think the market for them is as demanding as you think, or would like to think. Prove us wrong, get a camera and do your thing. If your hunch is right, you'll make money and have your vindication. Man up!
Posted by: Paul Reubens

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/30/06 02:26 PM

Hahaha kate is going to change the porn industry by attacking it on a message board. Nice one.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 06:49 AM

Chico,

Gay male porn doesn't pretend to be anything other than what it claims to be. In contrast, "straight" porn wants to be straight and a little bit homosexual by including girl-girl scenes but not guy-guy scenes. Straight porn is the only medium to ban the male-male interaction in movies that contain both men and women.

I would compare straight porn's banning of male-male contact to what you see in many swingers clubs. Many of these clubs ban men from interacting sexually with each other, but allow male-female and female-female contact. So, even if the male member of a heterosexual couple is bisexual, he is prevented from interacting with another male. Same sleazy philosophy any way you look at it.
Posted by: have2cit

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 07:05 AM

Kate,

you're changing your argument to encompass swing clubs now? Don't drift. What ever agenda you have about male - male activity in straight porn, is just that, your agenda, your taste, and it doesn't represent the overwhelming majority of the straight male porn buyer. You have about as much chance at seeing male - male sex in straight porn as meth being legalized has.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 07:36 AM

have2cit,

You just can't accept that I have a valid point in comparing the selective homophobia of the straight porn industry to that of swingers clubs. It's the same thing, so face it.

Meanwhile, let me add that fleeting male-male contact is already present in some of the straight porn movies made by Rocco Siffredi. In some of his releaseas, I've seen two men having a cock-fight, a man holding another man's penis which is lodged in a woman's vagina, a male-on-male blowjob etc etc. Rocco's movies sell like hotcakes, so that disproves your notion that there are masses who oppose it.
Posted by: have2cit

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 07:56 AM

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have2cit,

You just can't accept that I have a valid point in comparing the selective homophobia of the straight porn industry to that of swingers clubs. It's the same thing, so face it.

Meanwhile, let me add that fleeting male-male contact is already present in some of the straight porn movies made by Rocco Siffredi. In some of his releaseas, I've seen two men having a cock-fight, a man holding another man's penis which is lodged in a woman's vagina, a male-on-male blowjob etc etc. Rocco's movies sell like hotcakes, so that disproves your notion that there are masses who oppose it.




I admit no point because you posses none. You have an agenda not a point. You say I should be ashamed because I don't want to see gay male sex in my porn. Well I am not. You say the porn industry is discriminatory, I say they provide product based on economics rather than any sexual preference. If a majority of straight males decided they wanted to see that shit in straight porn, a product would be there to fill the need, plain and simple.


Please tell me which Rocco movies they are so I can put them on my never watch list, but I am not surprised it's a Rocco movie anyway.
Posted by: redbeard

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 08:07 AM

I am not in the industry so I really can't be certain one way or the other.

What I think is sence most straight porn is purchased by straight men and sence most straight men don't want to see men fucking each other that is why the only homosexual scenes are between women. I think that if the industry was as homophobic as you claim that there wouldn't be any DP's or gangbangs. If they really were homophobic they wouldn't want to be that close to another naked man.

Just my opinion, for what it's worth, which probally isn't much.
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 08:10 AM

I don't consider myself homophobic and I don't like to see guys kiss on television much less ass banging each other in porn.

Don't they make Bi-sex movies?

I like Girl-Girl action, I think women are attractive and can understand the attraction to females. Men are fat, smelly, hairy, with beer guts who burp, fart, etc.. I can't understand why women are attracted to men at all, but I thank God that they are.

Can't you go rent Bi-Sex Porn and leave the Girl-Girl, B/G Porn fans alone?

You can be a Bi-guy, you can be a gay-guy for all I care, but why should I have to see you indulge in your peccadillo's if I don't want to see it? I don't want to deny you the right to smoke hoagie or get drilled in your anus, why do you want to force me to see it? I don't want to see it, if you force me to see it, I then might decide to try and deny you your right to swallow more semen than the Bermuda triangle because I don't want to see it. I don't find men attractive and I think that seeing men ass bang each other won't suddenly make men more attractive to me, or make me think that gay sex is something I want to watch. What gives you the right to force me to see something I don't want to see.

So what if it's Straight Porn is Homophobic, I like it that way. Frankly I'm not big on watching women get ass banged, I've run into a couple females that wanted it in the pooper and I obliged them, but it wasn't my particular cup of tea.
Posted by: Coochie Monster

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 09:06 AM

The straight porn industry is homophobic?

No fuckin shit lady, there's a reason its called straight porn! Go grab a spoon bitch and eat out of some faggots ass
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 11:26 AM

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Chico,

Gay male porn doesn't pretend to be anything other than what it claims to be. In contrast, "straight" porn wants to be straight and a little bit homosexual by including girl-girl scenes but not guy-guy scenes. Straight porn is the only medium to ban the male-male interaction in movies that contain both men and women.




Straight porn has "homosexuality" by including g/g because STRAIGHT guys enjoy it.If I wanted male/male, I'd buy a Falcon release, but I don't. Those g/g scenes attrach a niche market; and yes, its a niche. The guys who love g/g arn't going to buy anything with guys going at it.

Its about moving units out the door. If producers wanted gay material, they would've had gay studios. Stop trying to force two seperate genres together, its not going to happen.
Posted by: jamesn

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 11:46 AM

Posted by: PainfulAzzFuckin

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 02:41 PM

I've yet to see a "mission statement" from the porn industry that proclaims itself to be "pro-straight" or "pro-bisexual" or pro-anything other than money. Porn is about making money. Of COURSE they discriminate based on that basis....why spend money publishing/producing something that doesn't make money? Hell, I'm VERY discriminatory in how I spend my money, aren't you?

Porn doesn't need a mission statement...it's not a statement, it's an industry. You can point your self-righteous finger wherever you want, but unless you've got someone who states in this industry that "porn is for everyone!" then your entire views are wholly without merit.
Posted by: Jim South Jr.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 02:49 PM

This has to be the most idiotic thread I have seen in this biz.

Where the fuck do you get off saying we are homophobic? People want to see BG they rent BG. People want GG they rent a GG flick... or maybe one that has both. They want to see BB, they rent a BB video. Where is the phobia?

Am I homophob because I freak out when some dude grabs my ass in a club and I get pissed at him. NO... it's something I don't like or care for.

It's like black male talent given white girls shit for not doing interacial, but then the guy refuses to work with any black girls. Is he racist? No... it's what he likes.

I don't get bent when I go to see a comedy and there are no bloody tortureous scenes in there. Why? Because I would go see a fucking horror film if I wanted to see horror!

I mean what the fuck. I seriously think this is a troll thread and has no actually merit to it.

Ok so to make your heterophobia ass think everything is A-OTAY... all films should have BG, GG, BB, slapping, vomiting, feltching with crazy straw, cum fart cocktails, bukkake, spoon feeding with cum, bondage, toys on machines, etc.... just so everything is under one roof.

Your threat of bringing the industry down and us getting shafted because we have no BB scenes in a non BB market is almost laughable at best. Do your best... we will all still be here.

Bottom line. If there was REALLY a demand for BB in BG/GG lines... it would be done. Obviously that is not the case.

Posted by: cumalloverher

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 02:55 PM

Nothing to get tpoo terribly uposet over, sir. This is just monkey taking the piss without the burdeness weight of being monkey.


Posted by: pornactorforhire

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 04:01 PM

Judging by a work-offer I just declined, there's some demand for "b/b/g... like double pussy... double anal". Watching that wouldn't appeal to me; nor would it appeal to some gay friends of mine.

For me the bottom line is, "the industry" isn't of one single mind, homophobic or not; it consists in a collection of variously-minded performers, producers and marketers, all trying to capitalize on whatever consumer-demands they perceive
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 05:19 PM

You know full well that the straight porn industry is a selectively homophobic industry. No matter what you say, the facts speak for themselves. And how do you know only "straight" guys purchase "straight" porn? Did you do a little survey? Where are your figures? I reckon you're all pulling assertions out of your large colons.

The total ban on male-male contact in straight porn has to go. I'm planning to break down barriers, whether you like it or not.
Posted by: Sonny Chiba

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 05:31 PM

"The total ban on male-male contact in straight porn has to go."
If there's male-male contact then it's GAY.
I'm not paying money to see two guys cross swords.
It's like buying a DVD with Naomi and Gianna on the cover and finding Jeanie Marie and Pamela Peaks inside.
If that's your thing, god bless you, but don't expect the rest of us to get on board the homo train cause that's your thing.
Posted by: elaborator

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 05:33 PM

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Nothing to get tpoo terribly uposet over, sir. This is just monkey taking the piss without the burdeness weight of being monkey.



haha i hope so...

commonsense
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 05:41 PM

Sonny Chiba,

Who said you would have to watch it? Under my proposal, you can keep watching whatever pleases you. I'm not about changing your viewing preferences.

They could always put advisory stickers on those movies that contain male-male contact, just so that selective homophobes can avoid them.
Posted by: redbeard

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 05:46 PM

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You know full well that the straight porn industry is a selectively homophobic industry. No matter what you say, the facts speak for themselves. And how do you know only "straight" guys purchase "straight" porn? Did you do a little survey? Where are your figures? I reckon you're all pulling assertions out of your large colons.

The total ban on male-male contact in straight porn has to go. I'm planning to break down barriers, whether you like it or not.





I wouldn't say that only straight men buy porn, but I do think that straight men purchase by far more porn than any other group, but as I said before what the hell do I know. I am not in the industry and don't know shit about it.
Posted by: elaborator

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 05:52 PM

Jamesn what the fuck IS that pic? that is almost as bad as the Germans with the Ball Bloating Devices...I think i would rather look at Flamin twin towers!
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 05:53 PM

In the straight porn industry, the ban on male-male contact comes from the top (i.e. directors, studios), not the bottom (i.e. porn viewers). It is a very conservative industry that has no place for little bits of male-male contact side by side with heterosexual and female-female contact.

And I'm not necessarily talking about full-blown sex between men, either. It might be a touch or a kiss, for instance. Why, for instance, can't I see Mr Marcus squeezing Lee Stone's balls as he's coming over some chick?
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 05:55 PM

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The total ban on male-male contact in straight porn has to go. I'm planning to break down barriers, whether you like it or not.



Good luck on stopping a multi-billion dollar industry. Who are you, really?
Posted by: zenman

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 06:38 PM

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In the straight porn industry, the ban on male-male contact comes from the TOP (i.e. directors, studios), not the BOTTOM (i.e. porn viewers)




Look at the choice of words...
Posted by: k1ng

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 06:43 PM

The mob don't like homos.
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 06:53 PM

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The mob don't like homos.



Posted by: PainfulAzzFuckin

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 07:17 PM

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In the straight porn industry, the ban on male-male contact comes from the top (i.e. directors, studios), not the bottom (i.e. porn viewers). It is a very conservative industry that has no place for little bits of male-male contact side by side with heterosexual and female-female contact.

And I'm not necessarily talking about full-blown sex between men, either. It might be a touch or a kiss, for instance. Why, for instance, can't I see Mr Marcus squeezing Lee Stone's balls as he's coming over some chick?




"The Porn industry is conservative."

Now I know you are joking. Good one...had us going for a bit there that you actually were serious about your crusade. LOL.....that's funny.
Posted by: c62

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 08:06 PM

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Nothing to get tpoo terribly uposet over, sir. This is just monkey taking the piss without the burdeness weight of being monkey.






I agree with CAOH. Either that or its SA or CM. One of the three.
(Back at ya CAOH)->
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 08:21 PM

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Make it stop, My Eyes are Bleeding, The Pain! I'm scarred for life!

Please someone, a hot chick, two hot chicks lapping playfully at each other, maybe with some ice cream toppings betwixt them!

The pain, oh the pain...

(Seriously, it looks like his ass exploded from lighting farts! That guy should not be allowed nude on the internet EVER.)

Everytime Kate posts, PM her that Pic of the Minion, she'll eventually understand why we don't want to see some other fat ugly guy ass banging the minion.

Posted by: It Was Fun

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 08:22 PM

:cries in frustration:

Can we all get the worthy XPTers lined up with our shotguns and use Kate as a target practice? I think the first shot should be all of us at once not one by one. I like a big blow.

Pretty please?
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 08:42 PM

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I like a big blow.



I'm sure you do.
Posted by: It Was Fun

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 08:45 PM

You're sooooooo perverted CHICO!!! ::in a little girl voice::
Posted by: pornactorforhire

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 08:45 PM

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Why, for instance, can't I see Mr Marcus squeezing Lee Stone's balls as he's coming over some chick?



Why haven't you offered them enough money to?
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 08:47 PM

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You're sooooooo perverted CHICO!!! ::in a little girl voice::



ME?
Posted by: It Was Fun

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 08:50 PM

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You're sooooooo perverted CHICO!!! ::in a little girl voice::



ME?




No. Chico Wang... duhh!!! j/k
Posted by: Macho Kiljoy

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 08:58 PM

I don't think Lee Stone would enjoy it, nor I.
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 05/31/06 09:36 PM

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I don't think Lee Stone would enjoy it, nor I.



Nor Mr. Marcus.
Posted by: SaraMarie

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/01/06 06:33 AM

Interesting thread. Too bad the original poster didn't have a clue.

I'd say there is homophobia among some people who are fans of straight porn. I see it all the time.
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/01/06 06:39 AM

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Interesting thread. Too bad the original poster didn't have a clue.

I'd say there is homophobia among some people who are fans of straight porn. I see it all the time.




Is there Homophobia in Religious organizations?
Is there Homophobia in the Military?
Is there Homophobia in the Music Industry? Probably not they do love their boy bands.
Is there homophobia in Country Music? (Willie did write that cowboys are frequently secretly fond of each other.)
Is there homophobia in Professional Sports?
Is there homophobia in Academia?

Personally I think they should deal with Homophobia in Straight Porn right after they deal with it in Catholicism. You know Priests, alterboys
Posted by: John Floofin

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/01/06 01:09 PM

Thread must die. Thread must die now!
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/01/06 04:31 PM

In my view, this thread demonstrates conclusively that there is massive selective homophobia in the straight porn industry, from companies such as Vivid to Wicked to you-name-it. You people hate it when it's pointed out to you because it takes the "open-mindedness" cloak off a very conservative and narrow-minded industry. Too bad, the world's waking up to it.

How much longer did you think you could get away with the ban on male-male interactions? The double standard has sunk you.
Posted by: It Was Fun

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/01/06 04:32 PM

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In my view, this thread demonstrates conclusively that there is massive selective homophobia in the straight porn industry, from companies such as Vivid to Wicked to you-name-it. You people hate it when it's pointed out to you because it takes the "open-mindedness" cloak off a very conservative and narrow-minded industry. Too bad, the world's waking up to it.

How much longer did you think you could get away with the ban on male-male interactions? The double standard has sunk you.




TheOutsider! Is that you?!
Posted by: redbeard

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/01/06 04:40 PM

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In my view, this thread demonstrates conclusively that there is massive selective homophobia in the straight porn industry, from companies such as Vivid to Wicked to you-name-it. You people hate it when it's pointed out to you because it takes the "open-mindedness" cloak off a very conservative and narrow-minded industry. Too bad, the world's waking up to it.

How much longer did you think you could get away with the ban on male-male interactions? The double standard has sunk you.





You may have a point, but I think it goes beyond those that work in the industry. I also think that same thing applies to the majority of striahg tmales, who but the way are the biggest consumers of porn. You want to make male bisexual porn, good luck on moving it though. I don't think it would be very sucessful financially.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/01/06 04:44 PM

redbeard,

I'm not talking about what is known as "bisexual porn". Bisexual porn, as it now exists, is essentially gay male porn with one or two females thrown in. I'm talking about straight porn with a bit of male-on-male thrown in here and there. It doesn't have to be full-on sex.
Posted by: cumalloverher

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/01/06 04:47 PM

If we make some w ill you calm down? In my opinion it's interesting when a dood asccidentally gets his load on anorther meat muppet's thigh. :bananacreamn:




Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/01/06 04:53 PM

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redbeard,

I'm talking about straight porn with a bit of male-on-male thrown in here and there.



Stay with me here.... slowly..... that would be... Bisexual porn, which exists..... not straight porn... was that slow enough for you?
Doing what you like and producing what you want... is not discrimination. It's called freedom of choice, just as it is yours to do and watch what you want...
find another cause...preferably one that exists elsewhere than your mind.
Posted by: c62

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/01/06 06:23 PM

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Thread must die. Thread must die now!



JF, if we can't kill this, then we must hijack it. How's the weather where you're at? How do you like the Cincy Bengals chances this year? I'm looking forward to Chad Johnson'ss antics again this year.
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/01/06 06:33 PM

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Thread must die. Thread must die now!



JF, if we can't kill this, then we must hijack it. How's the weather where you're at? How do you like the Cincy Bengals chances this year? I'm looking forward to Chad Johnson'ss antics again this year.



Bengals dont stand a chance. My Steelers are going to win the division and the Super Bowl. The dynasty has begun.
Posted by: k1ng

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/01/06 06:51 PM

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Thread must die. Thread must die now!



JF, if we can't kill this, then we must hijack it. How's the weather where you're at? How do you like the Cincy Bengals chances this year? I'm looking forward to Chad Johnson'ss antics again this year.




I'm with ya.
The Yankees are about to sweep the team with the best record in baseball the Detroit Tigers. It's 6-5 Yankees and the Tigers are at bat in the bottom of 7th. Come on now batter batter, swing!
Posted by: k1ng

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/01/06 06:52 PM

The NFL has some new rules about celebrations this year don't they? It will be interesting to see how much money Chad donates.
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/01/06 07:07 PM

I think they should give "The Chad" an exception, he puts thought and style into his TD celebrations without being offensive to the opposing team or blowing out his ego.

I don't know the Pats are going to be healthier, but older. No one can survive long with the Luck Ben Rothlisberger has been having, I forbid ill tidings for him.

Dallas is also going to be strong this year.

Poor Miami has to use loser QBs from the NFC North.

Early on I like New England, Cincinatti, Pittsburg, Seattle, Carolina, Dallas and San Diego.

The Lions might get close to 500 this year.
Posted by: c62

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/01/06 07:12 PM

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The NFL has some new rules about celebrations this year don't they? It will be interesting to see how much money Chad donates.



This whole banning touchdown celebrations things has got to stop. It's becoming the No Fun League. B_B you're right about Chad just having some fun, but you're wrong about dem Lions making .500. Sorry bro.
Posted by: redbeard

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/01/06 07:13 PM

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redbeard,

I'm not talking about what is known as "bisexual porn". Bisexual porn, as it now exists, is essentially gay male porn with one or two females thrown in. I'm talking about straight porn with a bit of male-on-male thrown in here and there. It doesn't have to be full-on sex.





I know what your talking about, you have said it earlier. Maybe bisexual male porn is not the right word, anyways I don't think that the ideas that you have for your films will sell. You might be able to produce such films for a small audience but most porn consumers don't want to see that.
Posted by: k1ng

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/01/06 07:36 PM

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Thread must die. Thread must die now!



JF, if we can't kill this, then we must hijack it. How's the weather where you're at? How do you like the Cincy Bengals chances this year? I'm looking forward to Chad Johnson'ss antics again this year.




I'm with ya.
The Yankees are about to sweep the team with the best record in baseball the Detroit Tigers. It's 6-5 Yankees and the Tigers are at bat in the bottom of 7th. Come on now batter batter, swing!




Fucking Yankees just lost in the bottom of the ninth. Oh well they took 3 of 4.
Posted by: John Floofin

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/01/06 08:25 PM

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Thread must die. Thread must die now!



JF, if we can't kill this, then we must hijack it. How's the weather where you're at? How do you like the Cincy Bengals chances this year? I'm looking forward to Chad Johnson'ss antics again this year.




Weather: It's Phoenix, it's hot.
Bengals: I'm no Karnac, but I say they'll be at least as good as last year.

My Phoenix Suns are up against the wall now. It has been one hell of a ride, this team has been so much fun to watch. I was almost starting to believe that they were the team of destiny. It could still happen I guess. When the playoffs started, I didn't project them getting beyond the second round!

Edit to add: I thought Chad Johnson's River Dance was the fucking shit.

Edit again: The Suns will have Amare Stoudemire back next year, just imagine that. That dude will dunk buckwild over whole team pictures. Watch out bitches.
Posted by: Cindi Loftus

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/01/06 09:15 PM

Why are the top of Minion's thighs all black???? ICK!!!
There is a great couple of bi movies that have every form of coupling g/g, B/b, b/g etc... "GOOSED 1 & 2" were quite successful and really was quite entertaining which is way more then I can say for this thread.

Cindi
CindisNakedTruth.com
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 03:23 AM

I live North of Detroit and watched most of the Pistons' games this year. Something happened to that team in the third game of the Cleveland series (the game before Rasheed Gauransheed the win.) They've been playing like SHIT ever since. The only two starters that seem to be playing with any heart are Tayshaun and Rip Hamilton.

This doesn't mean that Cleveland and Miami haven't been playing Great, I've never seen Shaq run up and down the court like he has been doing, and Dwayne Wade is just Sick!

But watching the other teams in the Playoffs, the Heat, the Mavs, and the Suns makes me think that if the Pistons were playing like they had the intention of winning, there is nothing any of those teams could do to stop them.

Frankly if I were Flip Saunders I'd be starting McDyess over Rasheed Wallace and Lindsay Hunter over Chauncy Billups right now.

I don't know Rasheed's ankle must really hurt because he's embarrassing himself out there.

And I said the Lions MIGHT get close to 500, I didn't say they would, I can see six and ten, remember the rest of the NFC North sucks (except Chicago.)
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 07:24 AM

No-one gives a rat's tossbag about the frikken ball game. Go post on espn if you want to rabbit on about it. This forum is for porn.

I reckon a lot of you are angry because I've brought up this selective homophobia issue. Finally, an issue arises to challenge the validity of the straight porn industry. It's going to do more damage to you than Andrea Dworkin ever did.
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 08:51 AM

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No-one gives a rat's tossbag about the frikken ball game. Go post on espn if you want to rabbit on about it. This forum is for porn.



Of course we care about sports, we're straight guys. My only concern is the AFC. I see the Bengals giving the Steelers a hard time in the divison. I think the Pats are done and the Colts can never get to that next level.
Posted by: John Floofin

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 01:07 PM

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No-one gives a rat's tossbag about the frikken ball game. Go post on espn if you want to rabbit on about it. This forum is for porn.



Of course we care about sports, we're straight guys. My only concern is the AFC. I see the Bengals giving the Steelers a hard time in the divison. I think the Pats are done and the Colts can never get to that next level.




It will be fun watching these four teams sort themselves out this year. Almost as fun as watching two guys fucking, nahhh, even better!

I wouldn't write off Peyton so soon, but this division is just sick good right now.
Posted by: It Was Fun

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 01:47 PM

Porn lovers can like sports too at the sametime you nit wit. Beat it bitch-o!
Posted by: redbeard

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 01:52 PM

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Porn lovers can like sports too at the sametime you nit wit. Beat it bitch-o!




Looks like Gen is getting ready to go on the war path again. Maybe that poster that did that thread in the shitlist forum about pornstars doing scat, got her going. Watch out everyone, I think she out for blood.
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 02:27 PM

The Patriots did lose Adam Vinaterri to the Colts, he's one of the reasons that the Pats got over the hump.

The Pats were injured a lot last year, Tom Brady was playing with a sports hernia for the last part of the season. They'll be healthy to start, if they stay healthy I'm not going to count them out. They find a way.

Sounds like C. Blunt and Big Mike Williams two 1st Round Picks for the Lions may not even make the team. C. Rodgers seems to have let his carreer go up in smoke and BMW can't put down the chalupas to make weight.
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 02:29 PM

Hey, we could really ruin this thread and talk about Soccer, you know European football.
Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 03:26 PM

Personally I can't believe no one is talking about the Edmonton Oilers VS Carolina Hurricanes for the Stanley cup! Never before has an 8th ranked seed made it to the final.

Here's a couple of straight Oilers girls showing thier Bi side.



Posted by: redbeard

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 03:31 PM

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Personally I can't believe no one is talking about the Edmonton Oilers VS Carolina Hurricanes for the Stanley cup! Never before has an 8th ranked seed made it to the final.

Here's a couple of straight Oilers girls showing thier Bi side.









Well I use to live on the outskirts of HOCKEYTOWN, before I had to move. So I basically lost interest when the Redwings got booted out in the first round. What is the point of winning more games than anyone else if you can't even make it out of the first round.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 04:19 PM

Lance 69,

Bi girls? I think the correct terminology is "attention whores".

Maybe you should go and stick your tongue down another guy's throat in a bar. I, for one, will be cheering.
Posted by: c62

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 05:56 PM

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I can see six and ten, remember the rest of the NFC North sucks (except Chicago.)




Good point B_B, I forgot how bad the NFC North was/is.

Quote:


Hey, we could really ruin this thread and talk about Soccer, you know European football.




Maybe we should go back to man on man love

Being a KC fan I don't see them doing much this year. Their defense is still full of holes, although their offense is solid. I would have to give to San Diego or Denver for the AFC West division. Right now the power divisions are in the eastern part of the country. Pitt/Indy division and the Dallas/Philly division.
Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 06:10 PM

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Lance 69,

Bi girls? I think the correct terminology is "attention whores".




Not quite, I married my wife because she is the only person I know that likes women more than I do! She does that shit on her own time and with no one else around. Are you mad because women that hot won't look at you?

I just realized you must be a serious ditch pig to be so angry with no real motive.
I never knew you liked the Oilers too though, your alright!
Great pic

Go Oilers Go!
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 06:27 PM

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Personally I can't believe no one is talking about the Edmonton Oilers VS Carolina Hurricanes for the Stanley cup! Never before has an 8th ranked seed made it to the final.

Here's a couple of straight Oilers girls showing thier Bi side.






'

Chicks sucking face! HOT!
Dudes sucking cock NOT!

Come on Pistons, RASHEED Wallace start to play Basketball God Damn it. Tayshaun and Rip have been playing their asses off while you've stood around like a freaking parking barrier.

Ben Wallace has made two Free Throws!!!!!!

(Yes I know the Heat will probably win.)
Posted by: pornactorforhire

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 06:50 PM

i would argue that jamesn's hairdo represents the entry of flamboyant homosexuality if not asexuality into the so-called straight porn industry
Posted by: have2cit

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 06:52 PM

don't you have some rest stop bathrooms to prowl?
Posted by: FuckMyTonsilHole

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 06:56 PM


H'es so cutesy gay, I doubt the faggots would want him.

Posted by: Coochie Monster

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 07:00 PM

With the influx of faggot posters on this board, I wouldnt be surprised if a new rank was created. "Power Bottom" Painfullazzfuckin haha sounds like someones been doing some community service on the side of a freeway lately.
Posted by: John Floofin

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 07:10 PM

I hope a new mod will go ban-happy in his/her first week. Somebody needs to dust their broom.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 07:50 PM

lance69,

Your wife makes out with other women while she's married to you? Ewwwww - she sounds awful. What sort of a marriage is it? Hasn't she ever heard of "moral values"?

In any case, she probably does it because you're wholly inadequate in pleasing her. Maybe this reflects the possibility that you're really interested in guys and need to make out with some hot studs out on the town.
Posted by: FuckMyTonsilHole

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 08:02 PM

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I hope a new mod will go ban-happy in his/her first week. Somebody needs to dust their broom.





I'll take the job. I'll shove the thing straight up your ass.

Posted by: It Was Fun

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 08:27 PM

Ahem...

Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 08:33 PM

Coochie Monster,

Maybe you should try crocheting a cock ring for your nose. I've heard it's the only thing on your body that has the capacity to grow.
Posted by: John Floofin

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 08:42 PM

Nice Gen, put a little DDT in the tank, we've got an infestation.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 08:49 PM

I reckon you're concerned because I have brought up an issue that cuts to the core of the straight porn industry. Your industry was never about inclusion and presenting sexuality in a fair and representative way. You continue to ban male-male interactions but allow female-female interactions side-by-side with the heterosexual ones. You're partly homosexual but only in the fetishistic sense, not in the sense of respecting it.

I truly believe alot of people are waking up to the fact that you ban male-male touching in straight porn movies. And a lot of people are going to turn against you for that very reason.
Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 08:54 PM

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lance69,
Your wife makes out with other women while she's married to you? Ewwwww - she sounds awful. What sort of a marriage is it? Hasn't she ever heard of "moral values"?





Oooo! There's a lot of anger in that one, I think I hit the nail on the head!
Was it the ditch pig remark or was it the portrait of you?
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 09:21 PM

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Nice Gen, put a little DDT in the tank, we've got an infestation.



No shit. This crap happens every few months. Last time it was "Jenna Gate",
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 09:45 PM

lance69,

Maybe you should be made to kiss another man...passionately.

Posted by: jamesn

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 10:39 PM

kate is a man and i want to kill her like matthew shepard.
Posted by: Cum Stains

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 11:02 PM

Listen KATE! I'm a bisexual photo stylist living in West Hollywood. I bet that makes your wienie hard, n'est pas? The point is that you don't see me on here waving a rainbow flag and bitching about the lack of male2male contact in straight porn. Why??? Because I know that XPT just like STRAIGHT PORN CATERS TO STRAIGHT GUYS!!! Doesnt mean their homophobic. Christian guzzles tranny cum in gay movies and xpt still sees him as one of the guys But here at XPT we're more interested in THE GIRLS that he's fucking. When I wanna talk about girls and straight porn, I cum here. If I wanted to talk about bi male/gay male porn, I go somewhere else. Quit bitchin
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 11:23 PM

Cum Stains,

You've been sucked in by the straight porn industry culture of selective homophobia. Moreover, you must be kidding yourself if you think that only 100% straight guys watch straight porn. Where is your evidence?


jamesn,

When you are next at a bar, I hope you land hard on a pool cue...rectum first.



Posted by: Cum Stains

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 11:45 PM

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Moreover, you must be kidding yourself if you think that only 100% straight guys watch straight porn. Where is your evidence?





Apparently you have zero reading comprehension skills. Read my fucking post again you stupid piece of cunt.
Posted by: redbeard

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/02/06 11:57 PM

Keep dreaming Kate. Even if you get what you want and to get some in the industry to sell them, they won't sell very well. Why, well because most straight men don't want to see it and most of the porn is consumed by straight males. When that happens and the people that are the making movies realize that they were right. That there simply isn't a big market for the kind of porn that you are talking about and that the kind of product just doesn't sell. Well we'll be right back and where we are right now. Sure they might sell some movies but I suspect that it'll have about the same kind of success as they movies that are out there in which the porn girls dildo some guys in the ass. Some people like that fetish but most don't and it don't sell well compared to other themes in porn.
Posted by: Coochie Monster

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/03/06 12:05 AM

Kate = Andrew Cunanan
Posted by: k1ng

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/03/06 01:31 AM

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Ahem...






Now I must ask Gen to marry me. So clever, such creativity, I am humbled before you.
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/03/06 03:22 AM

Damn Pistons lost! What do I do until Football Season. Guess it's watch the Tigers for me. Crappy pitching was the best thing to ever happen to baseball. Nothing worse than a pitchers duel. Gimme 25 or 30 runs a game!
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/03/06 06:40 AM

You know full well that the straight porn industry is riddled with selective homophobes. And if you think I'm going to let it stand, you've got another thing coming. The bottom line is that the straight porn industry is one of the greatest censors of the male-male interaction....on a par with Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.

I look forward to the day when the male-male interaction is in many straight porn movies. If you don't like it, don't frikken watch it.
Posted by: c62

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/03/06 08:09 AM

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I hope a new mod will go ban-happy in his/her first week. Somebody needs to dust their broom.



I hope no one starts the banning. Driving them off is so much fun. What needs to happen is the Pride needs to get hungry again.
Posted by: c62

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/03/06 08:11 AM

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Listen KATE! I'm a bisexual photo stylist living in West Hollywood. I bet that makes your wienie hard, n'est pas? The point is that you don't see me on here waving a rainbow flag and bitching about the lack of male2male contact in straight porn. Why??? Because I know that XPT just like STRAIGHT PORN CATERS TO STRAIGHT GUYS!!! Doesnt mean their homophobic. Christian guzzles tranny cum in gay movies and xpt still sees him as one of the guys But here at XPT we're more interested in THE GIRLS that he's fucking. When I wanna talk about girls and straight porn, I cum here. If I wanted to talk about bi male/gay male porn, I go somewhere else. Quit bitchin



Cum Stains, I appreciate you trying reason with Kate/Carl, but it won't work. It's like punching a brick wall, only kate/carl is dumber.
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/03/06 08:26 AM

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Damn Pistons lost! What do I do until Football Season. Guess it's watch the Tigers for me. Crappy pitching was the best thing to ever happen to baseball. Nothing worse than a pitchers duel. Gimme 25 or 30 runs a game!



As a former pitcher, I hate games that are over 3 runs. It fucks up your ERA. 30 runs a game and your going to go thru your pitching staff quickly.
Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/03/06 08:36 AM

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You know full well that the straight porn industry is riddled with selective homophobes.



Okay dumbass, if the industry is so homophobic explain guys like Peter North and Julian and countless other who started doin gay films. Now they are on top of this game. Not being into homosexuality is not homophobia. Read that one a couple of times till you get it.
Don't let silly things like facts get in the way of your perma PMS though, respond again with another incoherent unintelligent response.
Your argument has no merit.
And now back to back to the sports!
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/03/06 11:12 AM

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Quote:

Damn Pistons lost! What do I do until Football Season. Guess it's watch the Tigers for me. Crappy pitching was the best thing to ever happen to baseball. Nothing worse than a pitchers duel. Gimme 25 or 30 runs a game!



As a former pitcher, I hate games that are over 3 runs. It fucks up your ERA. 30 runs a game and your going to go thru your pitching staff quickly.




Sitting at home watching a pitchers duel on television sucks, even sitting in the stands watching a pitchers duel sucks.

Of course when you're on the field it's different, then you're in the game and you can focus on the game. But if your spectating and there are no hits.

Aughh!!!!!!!

That's why I think Crappy Pitching is good for baseball, lots of hits, lots of plays. Hell they should pick guys from the stands to pitch for their teams, they just have to have the ability to duck and dodge line drives. They could even put in a professional fielder, or make the Pitch Hitter use his glove.
Posted by: PainfulAzzFuckin

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/03/06 11:44 AM

Quote:

You know full well that the straight porn industry is riddled with selective homophobes. And if you think I'm going to let it stand, you've got another thing coming. The bottom line is that the straight porn industry is one of the greatest censors of the male-male interaction....on a par with Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.

I look forward to the day when the male-male interaction is in many straight porn movies. If you don't like it, don't frikken watch it.




Kate you'll undoubtedly let it stand as you've got absolutely no power to do anything other than sit here and post your drivel on a porn chatboard. I'll give you 2 months. No wait, make it 12 months. Let's see your power.

You don't even have enough influence/power to change the attitudes of the degenerates on this board. So yeah, you'll stand for it a loooooooong time. Huff and puff all you want, you aren't getting anything changed you sniveling whiner.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/03/06 04:49 PM

lance 69,

But the straight porn industry IS into homosexuality, so long as it's of the female variety. Get your definitions sorted out before making future comments. Laying off the wacky cigarettes might help.

As for Peter North, he doesn't make movies with male-male interactions, so what's your point?
Posted by: redbeard

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/03/06 05:20 PM

Quote:

lance 69,

But the straight porn industry IS into homosexuality, so long as it's of the female variety. Get your definitions sorted out before making future comments. Laying off the wacky cigarettes might help.

As for Peter North, he doesn't make movies with male-male interactions, so what's your point?





They make movies that are homosexual (only girl/girl) cause that is what sells. I think a good example is the girl with a strap on taking on a guy catergory. There are a few movies out there in that catergory, but they don't sell well. If they sold well then they would make more like that. Granted I am not in the industry, but I beleive that it is like any other business in that it is market driven. They make products that they think will sell and products that they don't think will sell they don't produce. Instead of attacking the industy it might be better to attack the consumers. One there are people out there that will be the types of movies that your talking about then the movies will be made. It's simple economics, not homophobia.
Posted by: Cindi Loftus

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/03/06 06:57 PM

WHAT IS THE BLACK STUFF ALL OVER HIS THIGHS BY MINION'S BALLS??????
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/03/06 07:00 PM

Quote:

WHAT IS THE BLACK STUFF ALL OVER HIS THIGHS BY MINION'S BALLS??????



Minion has ashy balls.
Posted by: zenman

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/03/06 07:17 PM

Quote:

lance 69,

But the straight porn industry IS into homosexuality, so long as it's of the female variety. Get your definitions sorted out before making future comments. Laying off the wacky cigarettes might help.





Women fucking women is only homosexuality if the women are ugly. If they're hot it's
Posted by: c62

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/03/06 09:13 PM

Quote:

lance 69,

But the straight porn industry IS into homosexuality, so long as it's of the female variety. Get your definitions sorted out before making future comments. Laying off the wacky cigarettes might help.

As for Peter North, he doesn't make movies with male-male interactions, so what's your point?



Everybody, please let's stick to the hijacked subject. How embarrassing is the Oakland Raiders going to be this year? Will Peton ever get his ring? What about John Gruden(Chuckie) and T-Bay, can they win another, or was that a one time deal?
Posted by: John Floofin

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/03/06 11:01 PM

Quote:

Everybody, please let's stick to the hijacked subject. How embarrassing is the Oakland Raiders going to be this year? Will Peton ever get his ring? What about John Gruden(Chuckie) and T-Bay, can they win another, or was that a one time deal?




1. Al Davis is rapidly approaching the point of no return, he may actually now be suffering from dementia or some other age-related mental affliction. He still has both hands firmly on the Raider's wheel and we all know this won't end well.
2. I won't bet against Peyton getting a ring. He's going to be in the league for a loooong time to come, he's clearly smart and he doesn't usually take big hits.
3. I think the window has closed for Tampa Bay. That's not to say they can't build it back up again, but in this age of parity it'll take some time, so I'm doubtful they'll contend this year.



Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/04/06 12:53 AM

Quote:


Women fucking women is only homosexuality if the women are ugly. If they're hot it's



So true! And tommorow I go to an Island with 4 woman and me to film some great . Bring on the bi chicks!
I'm very open minded.
Food for thought, not every gay man is a faggot, and not every lesbian is a dyke. Quote from a gay man.
Though Kate I'm assuming could be confused for both of the latter.
Posted by: Phlogiston

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/04/06 01:04 AM

Gay male sex is an abomination, lesbianism is entertainment. Deal with it, Kate.
Posted by: k1ng

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/04/06 01:29 AM

Yankees won today. Scored a run in the top of the 11th that put them ahead and eventually lead to a victory. 6-5 victorious.
Posted by: PainfulAzzFuckin

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/04/06 06:20 AM

Quote:

Gay male sex is an abomination, lesbianism is entertainment. Deal with it, Kate.




I have found my sigline for the week! Thanks!
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/04/06 08:26 AM

Phlogistan,

Men who have a fetish for female homosexuality often use it as a cover for their own same-sex feelings. You may well be one of them. Next time you watch girl-on-girl action in a porn movie, ask yourself if you're kidding yourself.
Posted by: cumalloverher

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/04/06 08:32 AM

I'm not gay. I have no gayness in me. I've searched my heart and it is the truth. I wish you would stop suggesting that. Besides, few men are both cute and petite enough to be lifted aloft for a pleasing "anal full nelson". Except for maybe Scoitt Lyons.


Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/04/06 08:55 AM

Tonights the final for the IFL, for those into MMA. Its on Fox Sports Net.
Posted by: redbeard

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/04/06 10:09 AM

I go back to what I said earlier many times about this being like any other business that it is customer driven. They want products that people will want to see and don';t make products that people dont want to see.

I did a search at adultdvempire.com for girl banging guy type movies and there are a fair amonut, not a huge amount, but a few none the less. Here's a link.

http://adult.dvdempire.com/Exec/v2_category.asp?userid=99364779986287&cat_id=00000113&display=2&sort=3&order=1

If the industry is really as homophobic as Kate claims then why would these ever get made and those that amde such films would not find work for anyone else. Sorry Kate. I just don't but your BS, try selling it to someone else.
Posted by: Willie D

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/04/06 10:20 AM

Quote:

lance 69,

But the straight porn industry IS into homosexuality, so long as it's of the female variety. Get your definitions sorted out before making future comments. Laying off the wacky cigarettes might help.

As for Peter North, he doesn't make movies with male-male interactions, so what's your point?


You don't know what a DPP is, do you?

Welcome back, Hamilton.
Posted by: Phlogiston

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/04/06 12:41 PM

Quote:

Phlogistan,

Men who have a fetish for female homosexuality often use it as a cover for their own same-sex feelings. You may well be one of them. Next time you watch girl-on-girl action in a porn movie, ask yourself if you're kidding yourself.




I am comfortably straight, thanks.

However, your little jihad to make straight men watch other men fuck suggests a strong feminist dyke resentment against the male gender, probably indicating that you are an extremely ugly woman who can't get a man. Perhaps your thick moustache keeps you from looking feminine, so you want men to act less masculine - by fucking other men - so you don't feel like such a failure in your abortive attempts to look like a woman? I think I know your type Kate:



She died last last year. Follow your leader Dworkin and die, Chickenmaster...er, "Kate".
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/04/06 03:36 PM

Phlogistan,

You're comfortably straight? Oh, really? How do you explain your homoerotic fantasies involving women?
Posted by: Phlogiston

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/04/06 04:17 PM

Quote:

Phlogistan,

You're comfortably straight? Oh, really? How do you explain your homoerotic fantasies involving women?




Simple. Heterosexual men like to watch attractive women kiss and fuck. Women do this for the sexual arousal of men versus other women typically. You might help yourself by learning to differentiate between the "lipstick lesbianism" which is designed to appeal to men, versus the dykish lesbianism which you likely practice. For example:


*This is hot*

Versus this, which is revolting:

Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/04/06 04:52 PM

Quote:

Versus this, which is revolting:






What is that? Dick Cheney in Drag? Mary Cheney?
Posted by: ChuckSpears

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/04/06 05:05 PM



Is that David Aaron Clark?
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/05/06 07:57 AM

Phlogistan, darls,

Those types of women are attention-whores. They're doing it for the camera and to get free drinks from sleazy "straight" guys. They were possibly hired by Smirnoff to make out in a homosexual fashion for men who can't come to terms with their own homosexuality.

Moreover, homosexual is homosexual. Two women together is just as homosexual as two men together. A man's perception of it is irrelevant as the word is defined by the content of the act.

Can I suggest that you watch the MTV movie awards that were on at the weekend. There was a category called "best kiss". Two guys won it. Watch it and get a hard-on.
Posted by: jamesn

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/05/06 07:59 AM

hey kate/arthur-how was getting banned from adt?

how did it feel the first time blood dripped from your man-gash?

you're disenfranchised and subject to beatings by groups of drunk men, that makes me laugh.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/05/06 08:02 AM

jamesn,

You really need to seek help for that major head injury.
Posted by: jamesn

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/05/06 08:05 AM

your head gets slobbered on by men in public restrooms. silly faggot, dicks are for chicks.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/05/06 08:15 AM

jamesn, darls,

Don't worry, the men in white coats can't be too far away. I've heard there's a Monday special at McDonald's for the profoundly insane - you should check it out.
Posted by: jamesn

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/05/06 08:25 AM

seeing as you're a gay man, you'll likely die of aids and be dragged behind an f-150 at some point in your life.

now open wide and put a man inside, you fucking fag.
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/05/06 08:35 AM

Quote:



Is that David Aaron Clark?



I thought it was David Crosby.
Posted by: jamesn

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/05/06 08:37 AM

is that jewel denyle's mom?
Posted by: Ivor Biggun

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/05/06 04:18 PM

Quote:

However, your little jihad



A felicitous choice of words.
Posted by: PainfulAzzFuckin

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/05/06 05:28 PM

I just logged into a few of my fave smut vendors and nope, they are still hawking mostly b/g or g/g stuff. Still waiting for how you aren't going to "let this stand" Kate.

Now, was that "stand" as in a position you maintain while taking a piss, "stand" as in creating a position of influence and strength or "stand" as in one of those stupid ladder things from which you hunt small woodland creatures? I just want to be sure I understood how you were going to change the industry. So far, I've seen jack squat from you and I so eagerly want to see your ideals upheld as the new paradigm for this industry.
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/05/06 08:22 PM

I think Kate needs to take it up with George Bush, you know, to protect the sanctity of Mano-O-Mano Sex. Maybe she can get W to insist they pass a constitutional amendment to force Gay Male Sex into Straight with Bi-Lipstick-Lesbian Porn.

Kate's got the Hots for the Minion and wants to see him tossing Ron Jeremy's salad.
Posted by: Phlogiston

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/05/06 10:51 PM

Quote:

Those types of women are attention-whores. They're doing it for the camera and to get free drinks from sleazy "straight" guys.





Did their plan work? As a sleazy straight guy, it might make me buy a round.

Quote:


They were possibly hired by Smirnoff to make out in a homosexual fashion for men who can't come to terms with their own homosexuality.





What psychology professor taught you to think this? Was she a fat woman with a flannel shirt and a crewcut? Perhaps some limp-wristed liberal White guy with a thinned ponytail held back with a wooden napkin ring? Your opinion smells of aggrieved feminist propaganda rather than legitimate psychology.

Show proof that men who enjoy lipstick lesbian erotica are more inclined to have sex with other men than those who don't or shut the hell up. Better: "Shut the hell up, "darls".

Quote:


Moreover, homosexual is homosexual. Two women together is just as homosexual as two men together.





By the roots of the word "homosexual", then yes. I could also say "sex is sex", whether it occurs between consenting adults or an adult and a child. Sex between adults and pedophelia are not morally equivalent in the minds of rational people, however, just as faggotry and lesbianism aren't equivalent. Lesbianism- between attractive women - is entertainment. Faggotry is a mental illness.

Quote:


A man's perception of it is irrelevant as the word is defined by the content of the act.





Wrong! Given that we are talking about the lack of faggotry in hetero porn, male perception is EVERYTHING. Men purchase what they perceive to be appealing. Faggotry, despite the aggressive marketing of it by the news and entertainment media, is still abhorred. Thank God.

Quote:


Can I suggest that you watch the MTV movie awards that were on at the weekend. There was a category called "best kiss". Two guys won it. Watch it and get a hard-on.





More like "watch it and throw up on my television", actually. That's just what happens when MTV is on, not just their strenuous promotion of homosexuality. (Or their telling young White girls to have sex with Black criminals like 50 Cent, which can be another thread.)

You need to watch less television, especially MTV, since you buy into the propagated myths about how fags are "normal" and "just as good as heterosexuals".

What you do need to do is talk to a LA Sheriff's Department Deputy and hear what West Hollywood was like in the late 70's. After a few anecdotes about fags passed out in parks with coke bottles in their asses, you'll see them as mentally ill or biologically defective as I do.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/06/06 06:49 AM

phlogistan,

I think you're at least bisexual. You really should just relax and enjoy it. Confining your homoerotic fantasies to two women is just going to send you on a wild goose chase.
Posted by: Phlogiston

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/06/06 03:22 PM

Quote:

phlogistan,

I think you're at least bisexual. You really should just relax and enjoy it. Confining your homoerotic fantasies to two women is just going to send you on a wild goose chase.




Very cute, you aggrieved PC fag hag. What makes you think my fantasies involve just two women?

If you are in the LA area and want to test my sexuality by sucking my dick, PM me your picture and I might meet you.
Posted by: cumalloverher

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/06/06 03:31 PM

Hey, Phlogpiston. How's it goinmg?


Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/06/06 03:47 PM

Phlogistan,

You just can't accept that what I'm saying has a basis in clear thinking. In contrast, your post has a basis in cow manure.
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/06/06 04:18 PM

Quote:

Phlogistan,

You just can't accept that what I'm saying has a basis in clear thinking. In contrast, your post has a basis in cow manure.




Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Wow my statement was based purely in logic and rational thinking, I should know I've had classes in Logic and Rhetoric.

I'm not laughing with Kate, I'm laughing at her.

Please, really a logical argument for including male-male action in "Straight Porn."

Run out and get financing and start your own company Kate, see how sales of your Straight w/Gay Male Porn does.

Prove us all wrong, can't wait to hear about the sales records being set by your product.

The statement "your argument is based in cow manure" really strengthens your statement about your "clear thinking."

Despite straight men telling you that they don't want to see gay male action in their straight porn and would not buy the product, you insist that their statements are not representative of the primary consumers of straight porn? Really where is your legion of support for Gay action in straight porn coming from? Where are other posters who support your argument? Other than your highly biased statements what evidence have you offered to support your statements?

The Porn industry is guided by Mammon, not prejudice.
Posted by: Phlogiston

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/06/06 04:30 PM

Quote:

Phlogistan,

You just can't accept that what I'm saying has a basis in clear thinking. In contrast, your post has a basis in cow manure.




Does this mean you aren't interested in sucking my dick? I imagine a mouthful of sperm would cure you of your desire to make straight men watch other men fuck eachother.
Posted by: c62

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/06/06 05:35 PM

Pic of Kate. Note the dried blood/cum all over his face. Way to clean up after blowing/salad tossing truckers Kate.
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/07/06 04:38 AM

Here's some of what Kate wants in Porn.





Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/08/06 04:37 PM

The straight porn industry is one of the most selectively homophobic institutions in America, no doubt about it. But it's now finally being exposed for what it is - a sleazy, selectively homophobic organization dedicated to banning the male-male interaction. The world now knows about you and your lies about human sexuality.
Posted by: have2cit

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/08/06 04:38 PM

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Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/09/06 08:15 AM

You know exactly what I'm talking about, but are afraid to address the issue. Unless you change, your ilk is going to find itself isolated on a rock in the middle of nowhere. Every time you try to get mainstream publicity, my line of argument will be used against you. No-one is going to respect you when they realize the selective homophobia that you promote.
Posted by: PainfulAzzFuckin

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/09/06 02:08 PM

Quote:

You know exactly what I'm talking about, but are afraid to address the issue. Unless you change, your ilk is going to find itself isolated on a rock in the middle of nowhere. Every time you try to get mainstream publicity, my line of argument will be used against you. No-one is going to respect you when they realize the selective homophobia that you promote.




Oh YEAH! That's a GREAT setup for a new porn series titled "Selectively Homophobic." In it, every scene starts off with a DP or gangbang of some hot chick. Then one guy reaches over and touches the other guys shlong at some point, at which point the chick turns around and kicks that bastard right in the balls and screams "MY COCK YOU SONOFABITCH! GET YOUR HOMO HANDS OFF IT YOU SLEAZY FAGGOT!" Then while the homo falls to the ground in pain, the other men continue their work with the chick continuing to moan as usual.

You could even vary the scene type by giving the selected homo in each shot a different type of homosexual twist and/or letting the porn whore subject him to different types of abuse.

"Selectively Homophobic" Kate, you are a GENIUS! I think you've FINALLY managed to find a way to change the industry's views on dick2dick action here. Instead of just ignoring the issue, we'll now confront it head on and let the porn whores, your primary competitors, beat the living shit out of you for our viewing pleasure.

D2D Wannabe's ------><---------Porn Whores

Who's with me!?!?!?!

Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/09/06 06:58 PM

Quote:

You know exactly what I'm talking about, but are afraid to address the issue. Unless you change, your ilk is going to find itself isolated on a rock in the middle of nowhere. Every time you try to get mainstream publicity, my line of argument will be used against you. No-one is going to respect you when they realize the selective homophobia that you promote.



So anway, the Mavs won against the Magic. I think its going at least 6 games.
Posted by: c62

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/09/06 07:52 PM

Quote:


So anway, the Mavs won against the Magic. I think its going at least 6 games.



This is going to be great, I need Mark Cuban to win a championship. Hopefully David Stern will die after he gives him his trophy.

Side Note: People, will you please stay off topic? I didn't hijack this thread for nothing.
Posted by: Willie D

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/09/06 08:32 PM

Can I post a copy of Charles Barkley's mortgage?
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/11/06 06:08 PM

You would be surprised as to how many other people share my opinions. All the time, people are waking up to the selectively homophobic nature of straight porn.
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/11/06 06:49 PM

Quote:

You would be surprised as to how many other people share my opinions. All the time, people are waking up to the selectively homophobic nature of straight porn.



Who cares? Your act is getting old, you're a one trick pony.
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/11/06 07:47 PM

Quote:

You would be surprised as to how many other people share my opinions. All the time, people are waking up to the selectively homophobic nature of straight porn.




Hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha, they wake up one mornging and suddenly they're gay?

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Praytell, why do they want to see Gay Action in STRAIGHT porn? Cause they're gay.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/12/06 06:52 AM

bad_bad,

There already is gay action in straight porn - female/female is gay, homosexual...call it what you like. Stop trying to deny it.

You just can't accept that I have made some valid and critical points regarding the vile selective homophobia that exists in the straight porn industry. Face it - your goose is cooked.
Posted by: Paul Reubens

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/12/06 07:13 AM

kate will change the porn industry!

or waste time on a message board!


seriously, it'll be one of the two.
Posted by: Soopergrizz

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/12/06 09:09 AM

Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/13/06 04:55 AM

Quote:

bad_bad,

There already is gay action in straight porn - female/female is gay, homosexual...call it what you like. Stop trying to deny it.

You just can't accept that I have made some valid and critical points regarding the vile selective homophobia that exists in the straight porn industry. Face it - your goose is cooked.





Hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha.

As Bugs Bunny would say "What a marroon, what an imbecile, what a loon."
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/14/06 06:21 AM

bad_bad,

On the contrary, the loon is you. You just can't accept that what I'm saying is true.

Maybe you need a crash course in clear thinking along with dictionary lessons.
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/15/06 04:07 AM

Quote:

bad_bad,

On the contrary, the loon is you. You just can't accept that what I'm saying is true.

Maybe you need a crash course in clear thinking along with dictionary lessons.




Kate,

Tell us about the logical fallacy of "You're right everyone else is wrong" please?

How does not wanting to witness male on male sex, because I am a heterosexual, make me homophobic? Because I am a straight male, who finds women attractive and enjoy seeing women together because it very much plays into the male fantasy of multiple female partners, how am I homophobic?

I do not hate nor do I fear gay men or women so I can't be a homophobe. I don't want to force gay men to watch straight sex, why do you want to force me to watch gay sex, when other and I have repeatedly stated that we have no desire to do so.

You refuse to answer the questions, you simply make false charges. You refuse to defend your argument, you simply restate it. No one else has come to your defense, no one else has supported your arguments. You persist despite all the evidence to the contrary.

Porn is product, the product is rampant with niche markets tailored to fetishes, women, homosexuals, etc.. There is a niche market for gay, bi-sexual porn with male to male action for those who desire it. The products are produced and sold according to the profitability of the product. To imply otherwise is silly. If men wanted male-male action in their porn, pornographers would put male-male action in the porn to make it sell better.

You refuse to answer the questions posed to you, you simply persist in restating your unsupported charges, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

So Kate, on the contrary the loon is you, you just refuse to accept what I say it true.

Now we can degenerate to the childish "Am not" and "Are Too" that this thread so richly needs.

Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/15/06 09:09 AM

Can someonelock this thread? Its 10 pages of crap and still growing.
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/15/06 03:55 PM

Quote:

Can someonelock this thread? Its 10 pages of crap and still growing.




Oh come on Chico, give a nice "Are Too!"
Posted by: Morbs

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/15/06 07:15 PM

I never thought porn was true representation of human sexuality anyway. It's just entertainment, too jerk off too - that's it. It definitely isn't set up for a female audience. Most Women find it curious that's it, maybe emulate some of the power leverage (relationships or otherwise) porn stars have - but that is the extend of it.

As far as being homophobic? There is SO much gay porn out there...Gay's in straight porn? Doesn't make sense, they have their own market.

Porn isn't the threat to our society that a lot of feminist portrayed it as, it's being blown way outta proportion on all sides of the debate.
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/16/06 02:48 AM

Quote:

I never thought porn was true representation of human sexuality anyway. It's just entertainment, too jerk off too - that's it. It definitely isn't set up for a female audience. Most Women find it curious that's it, maybe emulate some of the power leverage (relationships or otherwise) porn stars have - but that is the extend of it.

As far as being homophobic? There is SO much gay porn out there...Gay's in straight porn? Doesn't make sense, they have their own market.

Porn isn't the threat to our society that a lot of feminist portrayed it as, it's being blown way outta proportion on all sides of the debate.




Women only seem to be put off by Porn here in America, I've been on every continent but Antartica and women aren't such prudes in other countries.

In England so many of the Guys seem to be flamers that many women are desperate like American Men.

Women in America are taught that sex is bad or only for reproduction, men are denied regular sex so they become obsessive about it.

If women really hated porn they'd have sex with their male partners more often.

In Denmark they had a period of about five years after they legalized drugs and prostitution where the population went beserk, after that period the danish people generally don't do drugs or frequent prostitutes.

But people from other countries flock to Denmark to hit the red light district and use the legal drugs in the legal establishments, making Denmark a popular tourist attraction.

Look at Las Vegas, people slip away from their quite suburban lives and spend a weekend or week in Vegas doing things that they'd never do at home.

American's have made sex Taboo and in doing so have made the taboo profitable.
Posted by: Sonny Chiba

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/16/06 02:45 PM

Why is this thread still going?
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/16/06 04:28 PM

bad_bad,

Why would a woman want to watch straight porn anyway? She can tell that it's a form of manipulation designed by sleazy straight guys. When she sees that female-female is allowed but not male-male, why the fuck should she be open to it?

As for the notion that I'm trying to change your personal preferences in viewing, you're wrong. I'm about getting the straight porn industry to lift its ban on the male-male interaction. You can still watch whatever it is you wish to watch.
Posted by: elaborator

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/16/06 04:32 PM

so this was just Kate Bait right?


Posted by: Morbs

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/18/06 08:15 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I never thought porn was true representation of human sexuality anyway. It's just entertainment, too jerk off too - that's it. It definitely isn't set up for a female audience. Most Women find it curious that's it, maybe emulate some of the power leverage (relationships or otherwise) porn stars have - but that is the extend of it.

As far as being homophobic? There is SO much gay porn out there...Gay's in straight porn? Doesn't make sense, they have their own market.

Porn isn't the threat to our society that a lot of feminist portrayed it as, it's being blown way outta proportion on all sides of the debate.




Women only seem to be put off by Porn here in America, I've been on every continent but Antartica and women aren't such prudes in other countries.

In England so many of the Guys seem to be flamers that many women are desperate like American Men.

Women in America are taught that sex is bad or only for reproduction, men are denied regular sex so they become obsessive about it.

If women really hated porn they'd have sex with their male partners more often.

In Denmark they had a period of about five years after they legalized drugs and prostitution where the population went beserk, after that period the danish people generally don't do drugs or frequent prostitutes.

But people from other countries flock to Denmark to hit the red light district and use the legal drugs in the legal establishments, making Denmark a popular tourist attraction.

Look at Las Vegas, people slip away from their quite suburban lives and spend a weekend or week in Vegas doing things that they'd never do at home.

American's have made sex Taboo and in doing so have made the taboo profitable.




I totally agree.

Porn isn't a benchmark for human sexuality, so Kate should just relax. Anything "taboo" becomes an interest. And pornography fills that void.

There is probably a whole social/political commentary connected with that, and it hasn't really been touched on. Just both sides digging in, and sounding similar to each other. Complex issue.

As for women and porn, or women interested in porn. Pretty much Jenna Jameson cashing in, ala the 'bimbo business women' 21 century phenomenon. That sparked interest amongst women. Most women found that curious, flirted with the image, but that's it. You won't find many non porn women doing DP with no condoms on weekends - just not reality.

So, porn hasn't effected society at all.
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/19/06 12:36 PM

Quote:

bad_bad,

Why would a woman want to watch straight porn anyway? She can tell that it's a form of manipulation designed by sleazy straight guys. When she sees that female-female is allowed but not male-male, why the fuck should she be open to it?

As for the notion that I'm trying to change your personal preferences in viewing, you're wrong. I'm about getting the straight porn industry to lift its ban on the male-male interaction. You can still watch whatever it is you wish to watch.



Kate, I want STRAIGT PORN With Woman on Woman Action and no male on male Action, and you want to make it so I can't see that!

That's the whole point of your idiotic thread you want to change the porn that I like.

If you want Bi-Porn or Gay Porn, Get Bi-Porn or Gay Porn, leave the Porn, the most Commercially Viable Porn, that has No MALE on MALE action alone.

I wait patiently with baited breath for your next idiotic response.

BTW there are several women director who make more romantic porn for women. I believe Candida Royale started the idea.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/22/06 05:47 PM

bad_bad,

You can watch whatever it is you wish to watch. If you want to watch "straight" porn containing female homosexual action, go for it. No-one is saying you can't indulge your particular type of homoerotic fantasy.

Under my proposal, what simply happens is that the ban on male-male action is lifted. It doesn't mean every single straight porn movie starts including male-male action. Many will, some won't. If you're offended, there's always the advisory sticker option I mentioned some time back. Prudes like you would then be made aware of the presence of hot male-on-male in straight porn.
Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/22/06 06:35 PM

Quote:


Under my proposal, what simply happens is that the ban on male-male action is lifted. It doesn't mean every single straight porn movie starts including male-male action.
Prudes like you would then be made aware of the presence of hot male-on-male in straight porn.



There is no ban, Idiot. There is plenty of porn out there with it.
Many people, genuinely do not like male on male. It does not make them phobic, or surrpressing latent homosexuality. It's just a preference. Get over it.
Most men and some women even do not like it. And it is accepted that "straight" porn sometimes involves girl on girl.
Those that do like it are free to rent the stuff that does have it and there is lots of it.
You don't even have a real cause here, krusading kate. Find a real issue to campaign for.
Posted by: Morbs

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/22/06 09:48 PM

Quote:

bad_bad,

You can watch whatever it is you wish to watch. If you want to watch "straight" porn containing female homosexual action, go for it. No-one is saying you can't indulge your particular type of homoerotic fantasy.

Under my proposal, what simply happens is that the ban on male-male action is lifted. It doesn't mean every single straight porn movie starts including male-male action. Many will, some won't. If you're offended, there's always the advisory sticker option I mentioned some time back. Prudes like you would then be made aware of the presence of hot male-on-male in straight porn.




Who cares! Why would straight guys fuck each other film? There is no market there! Crazy talk. Forget about the porn market. Go hire two homo's and watch'em fuck.
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/23/06 02:29 AM

Quote:

Quote:


Under my proposal, what simply happens is that the ban on male-male action is lifted. It doesn't mean every single straight porn movie starts including male-male action.
Prudes like you would then be made aware of the presence of hot male-on-male in straight porn.



There is no ban, Idiot. There is plenty of porn out there with it.
Many people, genuinely do not like male on male. It does not make them phobic, or surrpressing latent homosexuality. It's just a preference. Get over it.
Most men and some women even do not like it. And it is accepted that "straight" porn sometimes involves girl on girl.
Those that do like it are free to rent the stuff that does have it and there is lots of it.
You don't even have a real cause here, krusading kate. Find a real issue to campaign for.




She don't get it, she pretends that Bi-Sex films don't exist. She has to so she can continue to support her silly arguement.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/23/06 07:42 AM

Of course there's a ban on male-male action in straight porn. In fact, blind Freddy could tell you it exists. You sleazy bullshit artists can keep dreaming because nothing you say changes the simple basic fact that male-male erotic interactions are banned in straight porn.

The straight porn industry is an industry that tells lies about human sexuality, basically.
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/23/06 09:24 AM

Quote:

Of course there's a ban on male-male action in straight porn. In fact, blind Freddy could tell you it exists. You sleazy bullshit artists can keep dreaming because nothing you say changes the simple basic fact that male-male erotic interactions are banned in straight porn.

The straight porn industry is an industry that tells lies about human sexuality, basically.




See she wrote that and still doesn't understand it.

You can ask her a simple question like "What's the difference between straight porn and gay/bi-sex porn?" and she'll say Straight Porn has a ban on Male-Male Action.

Does anyone else not know the Difference between STRAIGHT PORN and Gay/Bi-Sex Porn?

Anyone ever see the Monty Python Skit "Crunch Frog"

Quote:

Milton: We use only the finest baby frogs, dew picked and flown from Iraq, cleansed in finest quality spring water, lightly killed, and then sealed in a succulent Swiss quintuple smooth treble cream milk chocolate envelope and lovingly frosted with glucose.

Praline: That's as maybe, it's still a frog.

Milton: What else?

Praline: Well don't you even take the bones out?

Milton: If we took the bones out it wouldn't be crunchy would it?




If you put Male-Male action in straight porn "It wouldn't be Straight Porn would it?"

Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/23/06 11:48 AM

Quote:


The straight porn industry is an industry that tells lies about human sexuality, basically.


Then it wouldn't be straight porn you blithering Idiot!
That's like asking Ford to start stamping Chevy emblems on every third truck! If I want a Chevy, then ...wait for it... I'll go to a Chevy Dealership! (not saying Chevy is analagous to Bi-porn but I digress.)
Just because everyone's sexuality isn't what almighty kate believes it should be, doesn't make everyone else wrong.
There is no ban you attention whore.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/23/06 04:44 PM

bad_bad,

Straight porn is already bisexual porn, but its bisexuality extends only so far as female bisexuality, not male bisexuality. Think of it as selectively bisexual.


The only truly straight porn is porn that contains male-female interactions only. Once it contains homosexual action of the female variety, it no longer is straight. Deal with it.
Posted by: cumalloverher

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/23/06 04:52 PM

Hey, kate. Nice to see you about. Hope you are doing well.


Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/24/06 09:51 AM

Quote:

Think of it as selectively bisexual.




Look, look, she said it and she still didn't get it!

Jesus just think how thick her cranium must be, you couldn't put a .50 Cal API Uranium Projectile through a skull that thick!

But remember folks, Kate is right, everyone else is wrong.

"But it wouldn't be straight porn then would it"

I'm bummed no one picked that for a sig line.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/24/06 05:52 PM

bad_bad,

You know full well that what I'm saying is true. The reason you won't admit it is because my views are potentially revolutionary. They have the potential to change the straight porn industry forever. You're scared of the revolution, basically.
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/24/06 07:05 PM

Quote:

bad_bad,

You know full well that what I'm saying is true. The reason you won't admit it is because my views are potentially revolutionary. They have the potential to change the straight porn industry forever. You're scared of the revolution, basically.




I know full well that you're full of shit, if the main customers of Porn wanted Male-Male action in their Porn, the Pornographers would put Male-Male action in the porn.

NOT ONE PERSON OTHER THAN YOURSELF HAS STEPPED FORWARD TO SUPPORT YOUR ARGUEMENT.

The People who make porn, put the content in their porn that is most likely to sell volumes, make them money.

Mammon in their God, there is no Ban, no Homophobia.

You go ahead Kate and Make porn with Male-Male action in it and see how well it does on the commercial market.

If more people wanted to see it, the people who produce the product would put it in.

But since the demographic says they don't want to see it, guess what, it's a Niche market.

You continue to argue your point, you only support your ascertations with your arguments, which are only supported by your opinion.

You tell all the other posters here they are wrong, all the while insisting you are right.

You won't even acknowledge that other people have offered other perspectives and you refuse to provide evidence to support your argument, as a matter of fact you've made several statements that contradict your own argument.

Despite all this you persist with a pig headed stubbornness that goes well into obsession!

Most of the Male Actors have done GAY porn, they are WHORES as well, they do what they get paid to do, people pay them to do what sells.

Take your revolutionary views to the bank, tell them you believe that there isn't enough gay porn on the market and see if they'll loan you the money to start a company which makes adult films that is predicated on male-male action, and see how well they sell so you can repay your loan.

I'll be surprised if you get a lone, there are a lot more "Metrosexuals" folks love that "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" TV Show, hell there's even a Gay Cable Network now.

Let the market prove you're right, because that is the only place that matters.

Somehow though I believe you'll limit yourself to continuing to spout your idiotic, unsupported argument on this forum.

I forget are we at Am Not or Are Too?
Posted by: Bornyo

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/24/06 07:10 PM

Wow, I used to think people selected their avatars randomly, but bad bad has just shown he is the badger.

Way to go, bro, but I think you're just feeding the troll. I'd rather shove my cock up kates anus than argue with it.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/24/06 08:39 PM

bad_bad,

I haven't provided evidence? LOL. If anyone hasn't provided evidence, it's you. You talk about this supposed mass of people who buy straight porn on the condition that it excludes male-male action. Yet you don't give any figures or any documentation as to who this mass is. You're clutching at straws, pal. You're like the rooster squawking away when he finds that his domain is being challenged.
Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/24/06 11:46 PM

There is no ban, you have no real cause, nor do you have a reason to live. Please STFU...
Posted by: k1ng

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/25/06 01:41 AM

This is spam and you are STRONGLY advised not to reply to this or any other posting by "Mr.Kate". Please continue to observe this ostracism until notice of his banning or a marked increase in willingness to participate in threads instead of starting ones appropriate for PMs. Feeding him or giving him the attention he craves will cause him to feel comfortable and rip open your trashbags at night-let him learn that he's very boring by himself. Thank you, Grip Johnson.

Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/25/06 08:19 AM

Quote:

bad_bad,

I haven't provided evidence? LOL. If anyone hasn't provided evidence, it's you. You talk about this supposed mass of people who buy straight porn on the condition that it excludes male-male action. Yet you don't give any figures or any documentation as to who this mass is. You're clutching at straws, pal. You're like the rooster squawking away when he finds that his domain is being challenged.




hahahahahahahahahahahahha. It's your argument, I have challenged you to provide evidence. Not one other poster in this thread has come to support your views. I suggested that if you're so convinced you're right then you need to go to a bank and get financing to start your own company and produce the porn you believe the masses desire.

You want to prove people will buy Porn if it features Male-Male action, then prove it. You haven't all you've done is put finger to keyboard and type unsupported foideral.

You make claims you have no evidence to support, you haven't posted any evidence in support of your claims.

You make statements and you defend your position only with your statements.

As I've repeatedly said, there has been no other poster on this forum to come forward and support your argument, even the Gay men and Bi-Sexual Men, and Male Porn Whores have said that your argument is specious, that is unsupported by facts.

Your argument is so weak Kate, you've resorted to trying to use my argument against me to fluff up the ethereal quality of your namby-pamby opinion.

Heterosexual Men are not homophobic because they don't desire to see homosexual sex, they are attracted to women, they like seeing women having sex and fantasizing that they are the male partner of the young ladies. Heterosexual Men are homophobic when they hate and fear homosexual men and act out against homosexual men. Not being desirous of seeing male-male action doesn't make someone Homophobic.

You have repeatedly made statements and failed to support those statements with any evidence; and persist in making your specious argument despite the resoundingly negative response to your argument on this forum.

BTW The first Hit on Google sayd 2.4 Billion in Porn Sales in the U.S. for 2005, $486 Million of that in Gay Porn.

Gee that's a little more than 20%

Got anything to say that ACTUALLY supprort your arguement like a documents that show that the majority of Porn Studios don't do Male-Male Movies because of their hatred of Male Homosexuals?

Perhaps a University Study that shows more than 51% of American Males want to see some Male-Male Action in their Porn?

Come on Kate put your money where your fingers are.



I don't know why when people say something stupid I like to repeatedly point out how stupid what they say is, and why I particularly enjoy it when they keep saying the same stupid thing over and over?

I recall reading in "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" that pointing out the obvious is a human condition, I guess that makes me human.

If Kate doesn't support her arguement with some evidence, documentation, something factual, lock the thread and ban black-hole brain.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/25/06 09:19 AM

bad_bad,

Not only are you unable to cough up the evidence, you're also prone to misrepresenting my position. My position is that selective homophobia exists at the very top of the straight porn industry - i.e. with the editors, the directors and the company heads. The fact that the ban on male-male interactions exists is evidence in itself. You can't get better than the cold hard facts of what is staring you in the face.

Keep in mind that I am not the least bit interested in the personal preferences of the average porn viewer. They can watch whatever it is they wish to watch. At least with my proposition, they get the option of seeing a little bit of male-male interaction here and there, sort of like what you might sometimes see in a Rocco movie. And we all know how popular Rocco is, now don't we?
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/25/06 09:51 AM

Quote:

bad_bad,

Not only are you unable to cough up the evidence, you're also prone to misrepresenting my position. My position is that selective homophobia exists at the very top of the straight porn industry - i.e. with the editors, the directors and the company heads.




And your proof is?

Because I've read the entire thread, and other than repeatedly stating your opinion, and looking like a complete fool, you've done little else.

How about a list of the companies that make porn, and show how they've never made gay porn, never made bi-sex porn, never hired an actor, tranny, whatever who's done male-male action.

You make a silly specious argument, unsuported by any evidence. Straight Men do not want to see male-male action in their porn, that perspective has been stated by a Gay Man, an Actor who's done Gay and Bi-Sex Porn, and all the male posters and some of the Female Porn Actors in this thread repeatedly.

Where are the Gay/Bi-Sex Porn Actors who have affidavits stating that the majority of Porn Companies won't hire them because they only do Male-Male Action?

Where are the business records that show that the majority of Porn Companies don't have a Male-Male/Bi-Sex Catalog?

What about interviews with Porn Directors, Producers, Editors who state that they will not be involved in Male-Male Action?

I've not misrepresented anything, you just skip back to the same spot on your record and insult anyone who doesn't share your perspective.

You've wriggled and wriggled and repeated and repeated.

You're arguement is that "Porn Studios have a ban on Male-Male Action in "Straight Porn."

Your Thread title "The Straight Porn Industry is Homophobic" has yet to be supported by some FACTUAL EVIDENCE.

I've stated, the Porn Industry is Guided by GREED, their God is MAMMON, if more people wanted Male-Male Action in their PORN the Companies that make Porn would put Male-Male Action in the Porn, so they could make MORE MONEY.

Where are the Polls to support your argument to influence the Producers, Directors, Editors that putting Male-Male Action in "Straight Porn" is comercially Viable?

Where is your evidence, other than they put in Porn what people want to see, that the "Straight Porn Industry is Homophobic?"

SHUT UP OR PUT UP KATE, You've failed REPEATEDLY to do EITHER.

Well Google didn't hit on "Percentage of Straight Men Who Want to View Gay Porn" gee I wonder why?

Put up or shut up Kate.
Put Up or Shut Up.
Posted by: Soopergrizz

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/25/06 10:06 AM



for fuck sakes, stop feeding the troll
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/25/06 10:09 AM

Quote:



for fuck sakes, stop feeding the troll




But the troll will die of starvation, because it lacks the intelligence to feed itself.

There is nothing more pathetic looking that a starving gay troll that's too stupid to feed itself.
Posted by: steveb

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/25/06 01:47 PM

I thought that this kind of pointless, circular and totally, insultingly, PERSONAL bitch-fight was the whole point of this forum? Right?
Posted by: Bornyo

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/25/06 02:05 PM

Quote:

I thought that this kind of pointless, circular and totally, insultingly, PERSONAL bitch-fight was the whole point of this forum? Right?




Yeah, but I prefer the pithy one liners to these god-awful essays.
Posted by: steveb

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/25/06 02:08 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I thought that this kind of pointless, circular and totally, insultingly, PERSONAL bitch-fight was the whole point of this forum? Right?




Yeah, but I prefer the pithy one liners to these god-awful essays.



I think Oscar Wilde is busy jerking off to gay porn?

(And being dead of course).
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/25/06 06:07 PM

I don't know about Pithy one liners, but I could try writing with a lithp.

Anyone know if were at "Am not" or "Are too!"
Posted by: steveb

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/25/06 11:26 PM

Quote:

I don't know about Pithy one liners, but I could try writing with a lithp.

Anyone know if were at "Am not" or "Are too!"



Either that or "Your mother wears army boots!"
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/26/06 03:19 AM

Quote:

Quote:

I don't know about Pithy one liners, but I could try writing with a lithp.

Anyone know if were at "Am not" or "Are too!"



Either that or "Your mother wears army boots!"




Your sisters teeth are so yellow when she smiles traffic slows!
Posted by: Bishop

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/26/06 03:53 AM

Almost but not quite fellas.Think more like;"kate has been particularly concerned with male on male sex because-he can't have it since he zipped his cock in his fly"See?Straight to the point,demeaning and with a grain of truth which makes it personal-since kate is a man But if you engage him too long that affords him a chance to jerk his small peni to orgasm,and encourage further stimulation. Not good
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/26/06 06:57 AM

Quote:

Almost but not quite fellas.Think more like;"kate has been particularly concerned with male on male sex because-he can't have it since he zipped his cock in his fly"See?Straight to the point,demeaning and with a grain of truth which makes it personal-since kate is a man But if you engage him too long that affords him a chance to jerk his small peni to orgasm,and encourage further stimulation. Not good




Oh Yeah! Well your moms got gaps in her teeth so wide when she eats corn she leaves rows!

It's not that I care what Kate thinks, I'm just concerned he/she doesn't.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/28/06 07:23 AM

Bishop's criticism of me is like water off a duck's back. I can roll with the punches, basically. I know that I am right and that he is wrong.
Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/28/06 09:28 AM

Quote:

Bishop's criticism of me is like water off a duck's back. I can roll with the punches, basically. I know that I am right and that he is wrong.



I'd like to punch you...
Too bad your not a real person. Who are you really? No one can be this stupid.
Posted by: k1ng

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/28/06 10:58 AM

Quote:

Bishop's criticism of me is like water off a duck's back. I can roll with the punches, basically. I know that I am right and that he is wrong.




This is proof positive you're a dude. Chicks rarely if ever use "water off a duck's back" and "roll with the punches". Troll!
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/29/06 02:53 PM

At the end of the day, you know that what I am saying is correct. I have evidence on my side on this issue, whereas all you have is your conservative mindset. But not only are you conservative, you're also hypocritical on an expansive scale. Your gall alone could power New York City and its suburbs.
Posted by: cumalloverher

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/29/06 03:01 PM

But, kate. Two pretty girl's together sexually is pretty tro watch, while two guys engaging eachjother that way is repulsive, so it's not so much a double standard as a matter of taste because these sorts of poreoccupations aren't really political even though a sort of collective sexuality seems to be passing judgement. How's it going, by the way?

Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 06/29/06 03:10 PM

Well, I reckon two hot looking hunks tongue-kissing each other is also hot. I hope they come into your bar and do it right in front of you.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/01/06 10:14 PM

You homophobic fuckheads are hilarious to observe. Put 2 minutes of male-male touching in a straight porn movie, and you suddenly call it a "bisexual movie". Yet you have entire scenes with female-female interactions and it's still a "straight movie". LOL!!!

You people are truly pathetic from go to whoah. I think I've sufficiently exposed you as hypocritical retards.
Posted by: It Was Fun

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/01/06 10:17 PM

Hey Kate-oh... why don't you just shut up and masturbate to this; you gay/bisexual lovin' good for nothin' gibby jabber whore!
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/01/06 10:21 PM

Gen,

You've done plenty of gay scenes, now haven't you?
Posted by: It Was Fun

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/01/06 10:27 PM

Fair amount. Skyy Black is one of the hottest fucks out there too, I've wanted to take her home so many times but the girl is in and out of state like a hilly billy done gone murdered his own sister for fucking their cousin.
Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/02/06 06:32 AM

Hmm, at least one posted deleted?
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/06/06 08:13 AM

Many of you are slimy, selectively homophobic cunts. You disgrace yourelves with your hypcorisy and double standards in the way you treat female homosexuality versus male homosexuality.
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/06/06 09:31 AM

Quote:

Many of you are slimy, selectively homophobic cunts. You disgrace yourelves with your hypcorisy and double standards in the way you treat female homosexuality versus male homosexuality.



This is getting old. Nobody cares. Get off your soapbox and contribute something useful to this board. Your a one trick pony.
Posted by: ChickenMaster

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/06/06 01:44 PM

Quote:

Follow your leader Dworkin and die, Chickenmaster...er, "Kate".




Fuck you, you honky bitch.
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/06/06 01:51 PM

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Follow your leader Dworkin and die, Chickenmaster...er, "Kate".




Fuck you, you honky bitch.



Welcome back CM.
Posted by: Phlogiston

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/06/06 01:56 PM

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Follow your leader Dworkin and die, Chickenmaster...er, "Kate".




Fuck you, you honky bitch.




Sorry for the slander. I figured Kate was someone's alter-ego and you haven't been around for a bit. Welcome back.
Posted by: Bad Habit

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/06/06 05:22 PM

While I don't agree with the logic, this is probabely the reason girl on girl scenes are accepted by mainstream porn while guy on guy scenes are not:

The Christian Bible, The Torah, and the Koran all forbid male on male sexual contact and the price of such contact is death.

Nowhere in any of these books is girl on girl sexual contact forbidden.

So, according to the inerrant, verbatim word of God, lebianism is not a sin. Male homosexuality is a sin punishable by death and eternal damnation.

Nuf Said.
Posted by: Bad Habit

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/06/06 05:28 PM

And by the fucking way, Kate, if you want to watch gay or bi-male porn why don't you just watch it. There's plenty of it out there. Why do you want to force someone to watch something that doesn't interest them?

That's like saying there only needs to be one channel on TV and everyone has to watch it.

Read my current signature line. You definitely qualify as one of the stupid ones.
Posted by: k1ng

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/06/06 05:55 PM

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While I don't agree with the logic, this is probabely the reason girl on girl scenes are accepted by mainstream porn while guy on guy scenes are not:

The Christian Bible, The Torah, and the Koran all forbid male on male sexual contact and the price of such contact is death.

Nowhere in any of these books is girl on girl sexual contact forbidden.

So, according to the inerrant, verbatim word of God, lebianism is not a sin. Male homosexuality is a sin punishable by death and eternal damnation.

Nuf Said.




I promised myself I wasn't going to partake in this thread because it is so fucking pointless, but I couldn't let this one go.

The reason male/male sex is not accepted in mainstream porn has absolutely nothing to do with religion. Straight guys buy/control mainstream porn. Straight guys like watching pretty girls fuck and kiss each other. Straight guys do not like watching two hairy apes sticking it to each other. That is why guy/guy scenes aren't accepted in mainstream porn not religion or the hypocrisy of sin in relation to girl/girl vs. guy/guy sex.

kate is a waste of bandwidth and a troll. Don't respond to any of the bait HE posts unless you accompany it with a death threat.
Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/06/06 09:16 PM

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I promised myself I wasn't going to partake in this thread because it is so fucking pointless, but I couldn't let this one go.

The reason male/male sex is not accepted in mainstream porn has absolutely nothing to do with religion. Straight guys buy/control mainstream porn. Straight guys like watching pretty girls fuck and kiss each other. Straight guys do not like watching two hairy apes sticking it to each other. That is why guy/guy scenes aren't accepted in mainstream porn not religion or the hypocrisy of sin in relation to girl/girl vs. guy/guy sex.

kate is a waste of bandwidth and a troll. Don't respond to any of the bait HE posts unless you accompany it with a death threat.



Brilliant piece of simple truth there.
Oh and Kate go suck on the business end of a 9mm.
Posted by: Jeff Steward

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/07/06 08:43 AM

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Sorry for the slander. I figured Kate was someone's alter-ego and you haven't been around for a bit. Welcome back.




It is.Kate = Monkey
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/07/06 10:03 AM

Face it - the straight porn industry is finally being exposed as a vile, sleazy industry that caters to the fantasies of selective homophobes. Many people will come around to the sheer logic of my position. The mainstream press is waking up to it as well. I'm in the process of writing a letter to the LA Times stating my position.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/08/06 06:15 PM

We all know that the straight porn industry tells lies about human sexuality by banning the male-male interaction in straight porn movies. I have contacts in the mainstream media to whom I will report your selectively homophobic ethos. You're toast, basically.
Posted by: Phlogiston

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/08/06 07:28 PM

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I have contacts in the mainstream media to whom I will report your selectively homophobic ethos. You're toast, basically.





Does this mean JM Productions will be picketed by a bunch of queers and liberals singing "We shall overcome" until they put gay men into their vids?

If so, I volunteer myself to play the role of Bull Connor to your protest. Firehoses and German shepherds, baby!
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/08/06 07:39 PM

Phlogistupid,

No-one cares about your insecurities and hang-ups. You're a selectively homophobic creep with an ugly face. Even diarrhea looks better than you.
Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/08/06 07:44 PM

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Firehoses and German shepherds, baby!



That was the best part of being in the Navy. Firehoses were great for eco-terrorists. Fucking greenpeace..
Posted by: Phlogiston

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/08/06 10:09 PM

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That was the best part of being in the Navy. Firehoses were great for eco-terrorists. Fucking greenpeace..





It's a shame that the navy mothballed all the battleships. It would've been fun to give the eco-terrorist bongo-slapping hippies a full broadside, wouldn't it?
Posted by: Phlogiston

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/08/06 10:11 PM

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No-one cares about your insecurities and hang-ups. You're a selectively homophobic creep with an ugly face. Even diarrhea looks better than you.





That ugly face in my avatar belongs to someone named Steph. She probably agrees with all of your opinions. And, yes, diarrhea looks better than her. The fact we agree on something makes me feel unclean.
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/08/06 11:53 PM

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Does this mean JM Productions will be picketed by a bunch of queers and liberals singing "We shall overcome" until they put gay men into their vids?



I hope not. Those sheep at the petting zoo next door are in trouble in they do.
Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/09/06 12:11 AM

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It's a shame that the navy mothballed all the battleships. It would've been fun to give the eco-terrorist bongo-slapping hippies a full broadside, wouldn't it?



Absolutely, that's the one thing I can say good about the french. They had a greenpeace ship following them around harrassing them, so they promptly sent divers over in port and sunk the fuckers in Port.
Posted by: Phlogiston

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/09/06 01:20 AM

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Absolutely, that's the one thing I can say good about the french. They had a greenpeace ship following them around harrassing them, so they promptly sent divers over in port and sunk the fuckers in Port.





Indeed, even the French are pretty good when fighting a bunch of drug-addled, tie-dyed, Grateful Dead listeners. They should have sunk the Rainbow Warrior in shark-infested waters, poured some chum onto the survivors, and full steamed it outta there. God I hate hippies!
Posted by: Eddie Normous

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/09/06 01:35 AM

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God I hate hippies!




Posted by: daniels

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/09/06 03:01 AM

that all doesn't matter. Gays doesn't matter. We liberated them, thats okay, however a male assfucking another male still is an pervert and not an normal dude. Sail away and fuck yourself.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/09/06 11:10 AM

Daniels,

Why don't you go and administer a blowjob to the log you lay next time you go to the toilet?
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/14/06 07:00 PM

I hope that the government cracks down on you simply on the basis of your selective homophobia. You shouldn't be allowed to get away with it, basically. You all pretend to be open-minded and about freedom but what you're really on about is the sleazy straight guy fantasy. You're loathsome liars and deceivers.
Posted by: daniels

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/17/06 01:24 PM

# hope that the government cracks down on you

Thats it. Intolerance, repression. Thats the naked truth about people like you. And thats the real reason of "homophobia" too. Totalitarism thats what you want to. Therefore you never will become really accepted.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/17/06 05:25 PM

daniels,

Oh, really? You mean like how the straight porn industry totally bans the male-male interaction but allows all other interactions? That's totalitarianism for you, pal.
Posted by: Holly Randall

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/17/06 05:35 PM

I'm a little unclear as to the argument here. Is Kate upset because there aren't boy/boy scenes, in say, a Vivid movie, but there are girl/girl scenes?
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/17/06 05:59 PM

Holly,

I'm upset that there exists a total ban on the male-male interaction in straight porn movies. When I say "male-male interaction", I mean anything from simple touching to licking to sex. This ban is enforced at all levels of the straight porn industry, from directors all the way down to editors.

It sends out a very bad message that only female homosexuality can co-exist with heterosexuality in the mainstream. This is a very, very bad message. And, yes, Vivid is just as guilty as all the other companies.

Maybe you could break the taboo in your next movie, Holly.
Posted by: Holly Randall

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/17/06 06:52 PM

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Holly,

I'm upset that there exists a total ban on the male-male interaction in straight porn movies. When I say "male-male interaction", I mean anything from simple touching to licking to sex. This ban is enforced at all levels of the straight porn industry, from directors all the way down to editors.

It sends out a very bad message that only female homosexuality can co-exist with heterosexuality in the mainstream. This is a very, very bad message. And, yes, Vivid is just as guilty as all the other companies.

Maybe you could break the taboo in your next movie, Holly.




Well I'm thinking in terms of supply and demand-- most guys who watch straight porn are straight, right? So why would they want to see guy on guy action? I'm not judging here, I have no issues with gay sex at all, but I'm just thinking of straight porn's target audience. Yes, girl on girl action is technically gay I suppose, but it's that double standard where girls having sex is hot... Does it suck? Yeah. But that's just society's general view. Does it suck that a guy can fuck tons of chicks and he's a stud, whereas a girl can do the same and she's a slut? Yeah. But again, that's society's general view. I for one, couldn't shoot gay porn because I have no demand for it from any of my clients or site members. And I would think it goes the same for everyone else in the straight porn industry. And porn isn't exactly the platform to change society's views on gays, I wouldn't think. Pornographers, in general, aren't here to change the world for the better.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/17/06 07:26 PM

Holly,

Firstly, I don't think the porn-buying public reflects society at large. Most adult movies are lucky to sell 5 - 10 thousand copies, a very small number in a country with nearly 300,000,000 people.

Secondly, where is this great customer clamor to keep male-male contact out of straight porn movies? Fact is, there is none. There may be a few people wanting to keep it out, but since when did this justify a total ban? Even if it was found by a survey that 80% opposed it, how does this justify a 100% ban?

As for double standards, I'm not the type to take them lying down.


Regards,
Kate

P.S. You talk about "society's general view". What needs to be remembered is that the straight porn industry is encouraging this view. The straight porn industry is a pro-active party in the promotion of selective homophobia and segregation in relation to gay/bisexual men.
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/17/06 08:46 PM

This thread is like a SNL skit that was funny at the beginning, but got dragged down cause it ran too long. Mr. Mod, can you lock this now?
Posted by: spikelee

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/17/06 09:08 PM

How could you tell? Plenty of DP's and lots of licking the puss during gangbangs. That's lots of semen swapping.

http://courtneysimpson.biz/
Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/17/06 09:33 PM

This is like a circle. All the rational arguments have been made and kate will not listen to them. There is tons of Male/male gay and bi porn. If that's what you want then buy that! Holy shit what a concept!
Just because we don't want to watch it doesn't make us bad people. Please fuck off and find something else to say you fucking tree frog licking, hallucinating junkie!

Posted by: Holly Randall

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/17/06 11:33 PM

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Secondly, where is this great customer clamor to keep male-male contact out of straight porn movies? Fact is, there is none. There may be a few people wanting to keep it out, but since when did this justify a total ban? Even if it was found by a survey that 80% opposed it, how does this justify a 100% ban?




I never said there was a big to-do about people trying to keep gay porn out of "straight" movies. I'm speaking soley from a business standpoint-- why produce something that you don't have the market for? There is no "ban"-- there just isn't a demand strong enough to call for gay scenes in straight movies. Here is an example of your faulty business sense (and I'm not trying to be offensive): "Even if it was found by a survey that 80% opposed it, how does this justify a 100% ban?" Now what business would produce a product that only 20% of their audience MIGHT enjoy, when they could produce a product that they are fairly sure will garner a much larger percentage, such as 100%? As a businessman(woman) you cater to your audience-- the people that are paying you. When my members post suggestions on my chatboard, it's never for gay porn. It's for blondes/bit tits/natural tits/milfs/young girls... whatever. It's never about the guys. Though I understand your point and your cause is noble, it is what it is and we just go with the flow. There isn't really anyone to blame here.
Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/18/06 12:28 AM

Your beating your head against a brick wall Holly. Logic doesn't work on this troll. I believe only a sledge hammer will work...
Posted by: cuntluver

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/18/06 01:33 AM

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Your beating your head against a brick wall Holly. Logic doesn't work on this troll. I believe only a sledge hammer will work...




I have to agree, and I've only read this page of responses. And I'm sure it has been mentioned, but what about all the cocks touching other cocks in double anals, vaginals and oral attempts at taking two in one mouth? It may not be gay porn, but it shows that these people aren't all that uptite, at least in my opinion lol.

Fuck em it they can't take a joke.
Posted by: lance69

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/18/06 09:41 AM

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Fuck em it they can't take a joke.



That was my motto in the 90s! Would work great in a sig!
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/18/06 05:04 PM

Face it - I have dissected the straight porn industry and made a convincing case to demonstrate that it's selectively homophobic. It's an industry that tailors its product specifically to the perception that male-male can't co-exist with heterosexuality, even in small amounts. This perception doesn't match the reality.

Moreover, let me inform you that I am planning to go on Oprah Winfrey's website with my case in an appropriate and relevant way. When I go on Oprah, your reputation will be in tatters.
Posted by: gia jordan

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/18/06 05:12 PM

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Moreover, let me inform you that I am planning to go on Oprah Winfrey's website with my case in an appropriate and relevant way. When I go on Oprah, your reputation will be in tatters.




Yep, sure. Whatev. Please send us the link once you post on Oprah's site. Hey, while you're at it, ask Oprah where Suri is.
Posted by: c62

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/18/06 05:46 PM

Right now Smelly Monkey is laughing at each and every one of us.
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/18/06 06:08 PM

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Right now Smelly Monkey is laughing at each and every one of us.



Of course, cause Kate is Monkey.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/19/06 05:06 PM

I don't know who the hell Monkey is.
Posted by: catullus

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/19/06 05:52 PM

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Face it - I have dissected the straight porn industry and made a convincing case to demonstrate that it's selectively homophobic. It's an industry that tailors its product specifically to the perception that male-male can't co-exist with heterosexuality, even in small amounts. This perception doesn't match the reality.

Moreover, let me inform you that I am planning to go on Oprah Winfrey's website with my case in an appropriate and relevant way. When I go on Oprah, your reputation will be in tatters.




The fact that you believe Oprah Winfrey -and especially Oprah Winfrey's website- has that much real power is interesting. Bizarrely and deeply ignorant, but interesting.
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/19/06 08:35 PM

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I don't know who the hell Monkey is.



Sure you don't Smelly "Kate" Monkey.
Posted by: birdshit1

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/19/06 10:02 PM

Well I remember an old girlfriend who watched male gay porn because I watched straight porn. And even during sex she watched it because it helped orgasms. We are not together anymore but because she left them at my place I will sometimes wach. Don't misunderstand me I wanted to share that with you.

Posted by: ChickenMaster

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/19/06 10:07 PM

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Well I remember an old girlfriend who watched male gay porn because I watched straight porn. And even during sex she watched it because it helped orgasms. We are not together anymore but because she left them at my place I will sometimes wach. Don't misunderstand me I wanted to share that with you.






Wow, your one fucked up fagget.
Posted by: birdshit1

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/20/06 09:22 PM

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Well I remember an old girlfriend who watched male gay porn because I watched straight porn. And even during sex she watched it because it helped orgasms. We are not together anymore but because she left them at my place I will sometimes wach. Don't misunderstand me I wanted to share that with you.






Wow, your one fucked up fagget.





Well that is a rude remark. I apologize for being in a drunk state last night but the reason that I shared what I said was only to make a point. I mean I would not make a transaction to obtain gay material myself however because it is in my place of residence I don't have an issue with viewing it sometimes. Honestly I do not.

Well I would like to say that maybe you are slightly homophobic if you can not agree with me. I am not gay but I am not homophobic either. If I had said what I said using my adt name thankfully I did not I could not imagine how out of context others might take this.

But do you agree or disagree concerning my point? I would ask you to consider my point and not dismiss it. I mean there are others on this board who I am sure are closet gays so you would not be alone.


Posted by: k1ng

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 12:43 AM

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Well I remember an old girlfriend who watched male gay porn because I watched straight porn. And even during sex she watched it because it helped orgasms. We are not together anymore but because she left them at my place I will sometimes wach. Don't misunderstand me I wanted to share that with you.






Wow, your one fucked up fagget.





Well that is a rude remark. I apologize for being in a drunk state last night but the reason that I shared what I said was only to make a point. I mean I would not make a transaction to obtain gay material myself however because it is in my place of residence I don't have an issue with viewing it sometimes. Honestly I do not.

Well I would like to say that maybe you are slightly homophobic if you can not agree with me. I am not gay but I am not homophobic either. If I had said what I said using my adt name thankfully I did not I could not imagine how out of context others might take this.

But do you agree or disagree concerning my point? I would ask you to consider my point and not dismiss it. I mean there are others on this board who I am sure are closet gays so you would not be alone.








Posted by: pariah

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 04:13 PM

OK I read the first two pages of this and then could not take the banality of it and just had to comment to kate. First off Kate, you are a retarded fag hag. Put a warning on the box? They do. It either has BI in the title or has two dudes hugging each other while they hug a girl. To put a warning on the box will have that box put into the BI section of the video store. There are sections in the video store because that is going by the buyers (bottom) personal choice on what to watch. Do not sit there while you knit your best friend a pair of booty shorts, and tell us that the reason that there are no bi scenes in straight movies is because its the directors (top) choice. If the consumer (bottom) wanted to see more bi scenes then the sale of bi scenes would be higher and more bi scenes would be shot to meet the demand. If you are going to say that they are done wrong or anything along that line then go fucking shoot it and shut the fuck up. Do not sit there and scream its all a conspiracy against the gay man. It goes by what sells. I know that you are here just to stir the shit because your argument just goes in every direction and you argue anything you can to switch the topic when you are in a corner.
I am sure this was all covered in the 8 pages i did not read. So i was late. So what.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 05:00 PM

Pariah,

Face it - the points that I have made regarding the straight porn industry are now getting a lot of publicity. Even Village Voice, a popular New York alternative publication, is covering it, courtesy of Tristan Taormino. I just read an article where she talks about the bisexual double standard in straight porn, among other issues. It's a good article simply because it broaches a topic that the straight porn crowd has preferred to sweep under the carpet for so long.
Posted by: jamesn

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 05:30 PM

the village voice is for postmodern-sleaze. it's audience is a bunch of single 33-year olds with more pretensions than income , education or intelligence. it's full of "causes" that people who aren't that smart and don't matter that much can understand, feel good about reading and debating with their loser friends.

tristan's made a career out of being a loudmouthed, self-promoting leader of the socially-liberal but fundamentally unimpressive.

say you're a dumb bitch who's got nothing going for her but being at least average looking(a few years ago, she's a sow with crazyface now) and you've got a degree from an expensive little CT college that's not disgraceful. what do you do if you want people to PAY ATTENTION TO YOU?

easy-you've got a window where you can use your age and the fact you went to college for AS MUCH SHOCK VALUE AS POSSIBLE BY REPEATEDLY ANNOUNCING TO THE WORLD YOU GET FUCKED UP THE ASS AND DO SLUTTY THINGS.

people paid attention to her only because she was a girl that should have been heading to some white-collar job in her 20's and she ended up being a totally-shameless whore.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 05:35 PM

At least the issue is being talked about.
Posted by: ChairmanMiaow

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 05:44 PM

Kate,

It seems pretty simple to me.

Most straight porn is bought by straight guys.
Straight guys don't want to see dudes fucking each other in their porn, but they like g/g or b/g.

Therefore directors, conscious of the fact they have to sell product to survive, cater to those needs and leave the bi stuff out of it.

Their mission is to make money selling fuck flicks, not provide social education on the virtues of tolerance and man-love to the great unwashed masses. Who cares if it's discriminatory, it's what the market wants.

Yeah, I know there is an argument that more girls might buy it if it's bi, but there is enough bi / gay stuff to cater to them already.

CM
Posted by: jamesn

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 05:52 PM

kate--you'll never live to see your utopia realized.

because instead of addressing the childhood-trauma you experienced and repressed you're on a mission to pretend your mother used to fall asleep in your bed naked and intoxicated never happened and that it's "GGGREEAT!" to be the way you are.

as a bisexual man, i'd work on coming to grips with the physical/sexual/emotional abuse you suffered at some age instead of trying to make the world bisexual. there's an elevated chance you're suffering from some degree of mood or affective disorder than those who don't switch-hit. spend your porn budget on some therapty and medication and i bet your life will improve.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 05:56 PM

Chairman,

Straight porn is already bi - female bi only. As for what people buy, I wouldn't exactly be trumpeting the current sales figures for straight porn movies in America. An average straight porn title in America sells a very small number of copies. I suspect it's because people know it's going to be a poor production in addition to being selectively homophobic.
Posted by: catullus

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 06:17 PM

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Chairman,

An average straight porn title in America sells a very small number of copies. I suspect it's because people know it's going to be a poor production in addition to being selectively homophobic.




Yeah, that's why my grandparents don't buy porn. Or my brother, happily married to a hot woman. Or the Jehovah's Witnesses who live next door...

It's hilarious that you think the bulk of America is avoiding porn because they suspect the lighting is bad and they won't get to see guys fucking each other.

This is why I love internet message boards. Where else could a person as completely delusional as yourself ever get a proper hearing?
Posted by: ChairmanMiaow

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 06:18 PM

Kate,

The reason that porn movies sell so few copies is because porn is a niche product. There are thousands of different niches like bj, foot fetish, straight sex, anal etc including bi m/m, each catering to their small market.

The marketing/distribution budgets of porn studios are also tiny, even the biggest player in porn is a minnow compared to the likes of universal / disney / news corp. The other reason that the sales per title are low though is competition from the 'net. It's a medium which is more suited to delivery of adult content than dvd/vid, due to discretion, breadth of available titles and price (often free).

None of these have anything to do with your claim.

Most people buy porn for a very simple reason - to watch it and get off. They probably aren't that bothered about production values, and certainly not about homophobia. If you put something that turns them off in it, they wont buy it. So nobody with any commercial sense is going to do as you suggest. If you were correct, surely existing bi titles would be more popular than they already are?

Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 06:35 PM

Chairman,

I suspect the reason I stated above is a very important factor as to why most straight porn titles sell very poorly. As for the rest of your post, it's a mass of generalizations and assertions. Stop trying to justify the exclusion of male-male interactions from straight porn movies. It's not flying here.
Posted by: c62

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 06:47 PM

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Chairman,

I suspect the reason I stated above is a very important factor as to why most straight porn titles sell very poorly. As for the rest of your post, it's a mass of generalizations and assertions. Stop trying to justify the exclusion of male-male interactions from straight porn movies. It's not flying here.



ChristAlmighty, I can't believe Smelly Monkey has bitch slapped this entire board for 15 pages on a single thread. I knew he was good but....

Sidenote: I posted my 1000th post yesterday and none of you congratulated me. Assholes.
Posted by: jamesn

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 06:51 PM

belated congrats man.

i'm wondering who molested kate-my money's on uncle skeeter because of the porn connection.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 07:11 PM

jamesn,

Maybe you got knocked up by Ted Bundy.
Posted by: jamesn

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 07:15 PM

generally, when you're making a joke it helps to be funny. just some advice your dad forgot to give you while he was busy giving you ritualized enemas and making you the confused person you are today.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 07:25 PM

jamesn,

You are more than welcome to consume the contents of the enema bag.
Posted by: c62

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 07:42 PM

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belated congrats man.

i'm wondering who molested kate-my money's on uncle skeeter because of the porn connection.



It's cool, reading your take on Tristian made me realize how much you are missed. Talk about hitting the fucking nail... She writes a book on taking it in the can and people think she is some enlighten person whos opinion counts.
Posted by: Phlogiston

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 09:42 PM

Happy +1000th, C62!
Posted by: FagPatrol

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 10:00 PM

Wow. There is so much to read I can't hardly keep up. I'm a little new here but I'm branching out. Kate I read a lot of what you say and I have to agree with practically everything. Keep fighting the good fight, and if you're a fag hag I'll totally meet you at Next on Santa Monica and buy you a drink. That by far the best club with the best bar boys.
Posted by: It Was Fun

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 10:04 PM

Oh shit.. sorry... my nose must have got in the way of my sight!!! So sorry c62!! I don't doubt another worthy 1000 posts to come.
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 10:19 PM

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Oh shit.. sorry... my nose must have got in the way of my sight!!! So sorry c62!! I don't doubt another worthy 1000 posts to come.



Does post count really matter? Gen's approaching 4,000 and Im not too far off 3,000. I think Cleetus and Monkey are abut the only ones above 5,000. Anyway, congrats on your 1,000th post.

I just realized that I just past my 3 yr. anniversary posting on XPT.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 10:58 PM

At least Tristian tells it like it is.
Posted by: Bornyo

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/21/06 11:03 PM

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At least Tristian tells it like it is.




No, Tristian isn't telling anything the way it is. She is telling it the way she wishes it was. There's a difference.
Posted by: pariah

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/22/06 02:21 AM

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Pariah,

Face it - the points that I have made regarding the straight porn industry are now getting a lot of publicity. Even Village Voice, a popular New York alternative publication, is covering it, courtesy of Tristan Taormino. I just read an article where she talks about the bisexual double standard in straight porn, among other issues. It's a good article simply because it broaches a topic that the straight porn crowd has preferred to sweep under the carpet for so long.



Kate,
I will admit that you are a name dropper and will suggest that you find bigger names to drop. I have a hard time with the fact that you are so thick headed. It would not matter if you the small village voice, 1000 Romans, or Elliot Fucking Ness said that we were homophobic. If you were to get in the LA times on the front page it would be like a mustard burp. momentarily tangy then forgotten in the breeze. it will not change anything. What coffee shop do you work at?
Posted by: seeya

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/22/06 03:01 AM

Notice Christians gone and now Kates back
Posted by: c62

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/22/06 08:15 AM

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Does post count really matter?



Not really, just trying to hijack this thread again. Thank you everybody.
Posted by: kate

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/22/06 08:34 AM

pariah,

You're like a rooster trying to protect your thinning harem. Scratch and cackle all you like - you know full well that the bisexual double standard in straight porn is on its last legs. My points are being taken up by people who have an important role in the media, unlike you.
Posted by: pariah

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/22/06 09:01 PM

Ok I am so in love. Kate, you are as sexy as you are wise. I want to take you out. You name the place. We do not have to have sex. just a meal and some good conversation. Please Kate? Thanks.

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pariah,

You're like a rooster trying to protect your thinning harem. Scratch and cackle all you like - you know full well that the bisexual double standard in straight porn is on its last legs. My points are being taken up by people who have an important role in the media, unlike you.


Posted by: ChairmanMiaow

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/23/06 04:41 PM

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Chairman,

I suspect the reason I stated above is a very important factor as to why most straight porn titles sell very poorly. As for the rest of your post, it's a mass of generalizations and assertions. Stop trying to justify the exclusion of male-male interactions from straight porn movies. It's not flying here.





If you're so convinced of the market for this stuff, why don't you get some cash together, find a decent director, and invest in it? Then you can laugh at us all when you make millions from guys screwing each other in straight porn.
Posted by: c62

Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic - 07/23/06 06:30 PM

Kate,
I could use some clarification on this homosexuality thing. Let's say a guy has sex with a manly looking chic... say Jill Kelly. Is this homo or hetero? I can see justification going both ways. Technically she is a woman but on the other hand she could probably kick my ass. The same dilemma is true for Sydney Steele who's jaw bone could crush an engine block. What about the women who have sex with these two, would it be considered lesbian(homo) sex or hetero? What say you kate?