SERIOUS warning for adult performers.

Posted by: pariah

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/29/05 04:03 PM

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Then tell me, genius: if anyone in the US knows that our trannies are HIV+, THEN WHY THE FUCK GUYS LIKE FAGLIANO, ROCCO, TT BOY, NACHO AND SILVERA KEEP GETTING BUTT-SLAMMED BY THEM - BAREBACK????

That is a weak point to make. Why are you so bent that guys from here come down there and have sex with your trannies? Maybe itâ€™s because you have better looking trannies or you have 100 times more trannies. One thing is for sure you have a shitload of trannies! You live in the trannie capital of the fucking world!

Posted by: Mike Meatmaster

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/29/05 05:11 PM

How do you know she was positive for 7 years?

Renee Pornero, Jessica Darlin, Arianna Jolee, Cris Talina are just some of the girls who did some evil angel movies bareback with trannies, yet I doubt anyone is taking any more caution when working with them or when working with someone who just worked with them. The industry is deluded and everyone has an it wont happen to me attitude all the time. until someone is revealed to be positive, there is no blacklist.

Posted by: JRV

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/29/05 06:30 PM

I'd be more worried about finding a tranny surprise in Thailand. I think they have more per-capita trannies than Brazil.

After 30 days, as long as the tests are honest, it's probably no riskier to work with those girls than any other: if they test HIV- at or after the 30 day mark they're probably really HIV-.

But, if someone shoots a bi or tranny scene, condom or not, she should be avoided for some time, probably 30 days. As long as bi (and I think tranny) porn allows HIV+ performers to work then they can't be trusted, and a condom doesn't add a lot of protection (in my opinion).

Posted by: Smartt

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/29/05 07:50 PM

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How do you know she was positive for 7 years?

When she died, they discovered that she was HIV+ during the autopsy, and it was a large account of viruses according to the Western Blot test.

A friend that lived with her told the press that she knew she was HIV+ for over 7 years, but that fact cannot be confirmed.

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Renee Pornero, Jessica Darlin, Arianna Jolee, Cris Talina are just some of the girls who did some evil angel movies bareback with trannies

I donÂ´t know about the other trannies. I just know about this particular one, Camila de Castro.

Posted by: JRV

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/29/05 08:17 PM

Guys, I think Smartt makes a good point here.

I think US tranny porn doesn't test (some individuals do, but not tranny porn in general). This means you won't know if there is an HIV+ tranny performing, nor will you know if they're infecting anyone.

If a tranny is HIV+ and none of their partners test, it's not shocking this might go on for 7 or more years. How will you know? What prevents it? Especially if a few partners do find themselves HIV+ too, why would they tell anyone if the industry doesn't test them?

Smartt, are coroner's reports public records in Brazil in a case like this? That report might note if Camilla is HIV+, and given the â€œ7 yearsâ€ stuff I'd bet Camilla's medical history shows an HIV+ result 7 years ago and the coroner noted that in the report.

The point is, if you don't test, they're probably HIV+, and there's no reason to believe they haven't been HIV+ for a long time. Moreover, if you don't test, they'll almost certainly keep right on working, even if they do find out they're HIV+. It would be wildly optimistic to assume they haven't been HIV+ for years.

Posted by: Smartt

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/29/05 09:59 PM

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Smartt, are coroner's reports public records in Brazil in a case like this?

I donÂ´t know.

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That report might note if Camilla is HIV+, and given the â€œ7 yearsâ€ stuff I'd bet Camilla's medical history shows an HIV+ result 7 years ago and the coroner noted that in the report.

CamillaÂ´s body was left on the street for over FIVE HOURS, until it was found out and led to the morgue. Due to this long period, it is impossible, even with the WB test, to know how long she was HIV+. The account of "7 years" was made by a friend of hers.

Camilla avoided testings anyway she could, that I know. She ran from tests like a vampire from a cross. You couldnÂ´t speak about tests near her, sheÂ´d become furious.

About testing, in all the years Fagliano and co. filmed in Brazil, they never, NEVER required any HIV test from the performers. It wasnÂ´t even a case of presenting a fake test; they simply didnÂ´t asked at all.

Same thing goes to the ppl who are currently doing the Brazilbang.com series. IÂ´ve downloaded some of their movies, and I can assure that at least two of their performers is HIV+, the ones whose pics are attached.

Posted by: bukkakefan1

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/30/05 08:14 AM

I think some good points are made here. I think talent is always at risk in general. Even if a producer requires current (less than 30-day-old) test result and the performer presents a legitimate negative test result that's less than 30 days old, what would ensure that the performer is HIV negative if his/her negative test is 29 days old and yet, somehow, he/she had contact 15 days ago with an HIV positive person/talent? I think testing is definitely good but it doesn't totally eliminate the risk especially given the fact that not everyone in the business is cautious.

Posted by: Sir Greenly

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/30/05 09:22 AM

Hey Smartt, aren't you the guy who was carrying on about Extreme shooting in Brazil with HIV+ broads without rubbers on Lukeford a few years ago? Also about some drug dealer boyfriend of one the hookers putting a contract on Rob Black cuz he said mean things about the Brazilians in the movies?
Yet, when you actually WATCH the Extreme Brazil series, (and I have) the guys (Earl Slate and Luciano) are CLEARLY using condoms. And Rob Black is alive and well.
Point is, I don't think you have a history of correct info, dude. I know I'm skeptical.

Posted by: Smartt

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/30/05 09:43 AM

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Yet, when you actually WATCH the Extreme Brazil series, (and I have) the guys (Earl Slate and Luciano) are CLEARLY using condoms.

So fucking what? They fucked the girls without condoms OFF CAMERA.

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And Rob Black is alive and well.

Again, so fucking what? He left Brazil after the threads, AND NEVER CAME BACK.

Posted by: Sir Greenly

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/30/05 10:41 AM

So fucking what-exactly.

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So fucking what? They fucked the girls without condoms OFF CAMERA.

Just curious, though. How do you know this? Cuz the whores told you? We all know hookers don't lie. It's all moot, though, as neither Slate nor Luciano came up HIV+

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Again, so fucking what? He left Brazil after the threads, AND NEVER CAME BACK.

Again, how do you know he never came back? Does Brazil issue a press release whenever an American enters their country? I know Byron went back.(Extreme Brazil 4)

Whatever.

Posted by: Smartt

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/30/05 11:07 AM

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It's all moot, though, as neither Slate nor Luciano came up HIV+

How do you know that? Cuz they told you? We all know pornstars don't lie. Did you saw their HIV tests? Fucking an HIV+ doesnÂ´t mean youÂ´ll get AIDS, but it IS risky.

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Again, how do you know he never came back? Does Brazil issue a press release whenever an American enters their country?

Of course they do. Their local distribution company makes a huge fuzz everytime one of them nobodyÂ´s set foot here.

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I know Byron went back.(Extreme Brazil 4)

TOM BYRON went back, ROB BLACK didnÂ´t. Tom Byron didnÂ´t messed with the g/f of a drug lord, Rob Black did.

Whatever.

Posted by: JRV

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/30/05 11:17 AM

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Even if a producer requires current (less than 30-day-old) test result and the performer presents a legitimate negative test result that's less than 30 days old, what would ensure that the performer is HIV negative if his/her negative test is 29 days old and yet, somehow, he/she had contact 15 days ago with an HIV positive person/talent?

That's the Darren James scenario. It's not the tests that keep them safe, it's avoiding risky partners.

Posted by: Sir Greenly

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/30/05 11:29 AM

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TOM BYRON went back, ROB BLACK didnÂ´t. Tom Byron didnÂ´t messed with the g/f of a drug lord, Rob Black did.

Real quick and then I'm done here - (I'm not part of the anti-Smartt crowd, I actually find you somewhat amusing)
I scanned through Extreme Brazil 3 just now, and it seems Rob DID go back to Brazil for some convention or something, so it seems he was undeterred by this "drug lord's" threats. I'm curious as to who the GF is who would inspire such wrath. Who was it? Was she in the movies? And how did he "messed" with her?

Posted by: It Was Fun

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/30/05 12:52 PM

Hmmm... this is all giving me too much second thought on every considering a tranny scene. Perhaps its not worth the risk. At all, even with a test. That sucks

Posted by: Smartt

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/30/05 02:36 PM

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I scanned through Extreme Brazil 3 just now, and it seems Rob DID go back to Brazil for some convention or something, so it seems he was undeterred by this "drug lord's"

The threats happened during the shooting of EB3.

Posted by: Mike Meatmaster

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/30/05 02:36 PM

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Hmmm... this is all giving me too much second thought on every considering a tranny scene. Perhaps its not worth the risk. At all, even with a test. That sucks

I guess it all comes down to trust.

Smartt, how do you know those two girls are HIV+? And wouldn't that almost garuntee that the rest of the people in that scene are now HIV+?

Posted by: Smartt

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/30/05 02:38 PM

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Smartt, how do you know those two girls are HIV+? And wouldn't that almost garuntee that the rest of the people in that scene are now HIV+?

I know that the girls are HIV+.

But that doesnÂ´t mean the performers GOT HIV+ from fucking Â´em. HIV is highly contagious, but there are cases when ppl just get lucky.

Posted by: Cleetus VanDamme

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/30/05 02:54 PM

This is what was puzzling me last week- certain companies may have a no anal creampie policy for safety but then the same company is starting to shoot more and more shemale stuff. It doesn't seem to be a well thought out policy at all. Trying to protect the people that work under you with the no anal creampie policy is fine if you would also ban working with gays (bi titles) and shemales (especially without a condom).

Posted by: JRV

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/30/05 03:08 PM

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Hmmm... this is all giving me too much second thought on every considering a tranny scene. Perhaps its not worth the risk. At all, even with a test. That sucks

Yeah â€“ even if the tranny is well-meaning and not hooking or screwing around outside the tranny porn industry, just working in that environment makes it tough. Good intentions aren't enough and just having a test doesn't necessarily say much if they regularly work with untested partners.

I can imagine one possible way you might do the tranny thing: time the tests around the shoot rather than just take some 29-day-old test result. I have not seen such data but I bet there scientific estimates on how well the PCR and anti-body tests work at short intervals (a scale of hours or days) after infection and the odds an infection can be passed on at that time. I don't know the terminology to search for such things but maybe you can.

It may be possible to say something like â€œif a Monday anti-body test and a Tuesday PCR are both negative, a Wednesday shoot might have acceptable risk.â€ It also assumes you can lock the tranny in your basement for a day or two so they're not out screwing around getting infected after the tests.

It's a lot of hassle & expense and not something you'd do very often, but for a one-time thing to check that fantasy off your list it might work â€“ but only with a lot of thought, and only to YOUR standards, not to what a tranny performer or tranny director is used to doing. It would probably be best to be a scene you shot for your website to make sure they weren't blowing off the safety issue, intentionally or otherwise.

Posted by: JRV

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/30/05 11:28 PM

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This is what was puzzling me last week- certain companies may have a no anal creampie policy for safety but then the same company is starting to shoot more and more shemale stuff.

If it's who I think it is then neither the owner nor his wife â€“ especially the owner â€“ would seem to have strong HIV avoidance credentials, would they?

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It doesn't seem to be a well thought out policy at all. Trying to protect the people that work under you with the no anal creampie policy is fine if you would also ban working with gays (bi titles) and shemales (especially without a condom).

Repeat after me. Performers don't get HIV because they do an anal creampie: they get HIV because one of their partners was HIV+.

If none of the partners if HIV+ they could do an anal creampie gangbang every day for the rest of their lives and there would be zero risk of getting HIV. It's all about the HIV status of the partner and not whether God smites the wicked for doing something other than missionary (with the lights out).

The problem is that's a big â€œifâ€. Mistakes happen (Darren James) and people even deliberately lie (Marc Wallice).

Not shooting anal creampies is a way of reducing the risk if someone turns out to be HIV+. So are condoms. But these are always lesser measures of protection: by far the most important thing is to keep HIV+ performers out of the shoot in the first place.

If there were some reason to believe the performers at a gay shoot were HIV- I'd have no problem with it. But as best I can tell there is generally no particular reason to believe the performers are HIV-; in fact, when you consider condom failure rates, there's every reason to believe a lot of gay and tranny performers are HIV+.

If they refuse to address the main issue â€“ keeping HIV+ performers out of the shoot â€“ then the other stuff is just feel-good and cross-your-fingers.

PS. Evil Angel shoots so much tranny and gay stuff these days I suspect they could afford to keep someone on-staff licensed to do the â€œinstantâ€ anti-body tests. Whether they could find enough gay/tranny performers to pass the test is a different question.

Posted by: Smartt

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 07/31/05 01:20 AM

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PS. Evil Angel shoots so much tranny and gay stuff these days I suspect they could afford to keep someone on-staff licensed to do the â€œinstantâ€ anti-body tests. Whether they could find enough gay/tranny performers to pass the test is a different question.

One of the reasons I hate Stanlay Miranda, FaglianoÂ´s liaison in Brazil, so much, is related to a fake HIV test. And if Fagliano knew the whole story (I told him part of it, but he choose not to believe it, so fuck him), he would fire StanlayÂ´s ass and shut down the brazilian branch of Evil Angel... THEN.

Now, itÂ´s too late. HeÂ´s HIV+ now, his movies arenÂ´t selling as much in the USA as they used to be, and his biggest revues still come from the Brazilian VHS sales - that are waning as well, I must add.

Posted by: Jeff Steward

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 08/02/05 09:18 AM

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I'd be more worried about finding a tranny surprise in Thailand. I think they have more per-capita trannies than Brazil.

I find it funny that when someone mentions these two countries everyone thinks of she males.I mean some places are known for coffee and others for oil but Thailand and Brazil are known for the sexual oddities know as transsexuals.

Posted by: RENFIELD1

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 08/03/05 01:35 AM

Oh my this is very scary. Yet these whores dont seem to be scared. BELLADONNA just did one w/ Vanity, Vicki Richter and Daniella Foxx all fucking her black asshole. SHEESH what a way to die. Very painful. I have lost many to this vicious disease. Not very pleasant.

Posted by: Mike Meatmaster

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 08/04/05 10:50 AM

I thought Belladonna did that a while ago and used a condom.

Posted by: RENFIELD1

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 08/06/05 12:34 PM

No she just completed it maybe three weeks ago. It will be out in October 06.

Posted by: Mike Meatmaster

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 08/07/05 09:11 PM

Thats interesting, a while back when asked on her site she said she wouldn't be doing trannies again. Do you know if this was bareback or with condoms?

Posted by: RENFIELD1

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 08/09/05 10:24 AM

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Thats interesting, a while back when asked on her site she said she wouldn't be doing trannies again. Do you know if this was bareback or with condoms?

I thought I saw your name on the boards there. No if you are a member you can view the "teaser" and it looks bareback to my eyes.

Posted by: Wendy Williams

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/19/06 06:04 PM

It amazes me that you would associate "tranny" with HIV,,,I am one of the top transsexual performers in the U.S I am tested every 30 days like any other performer. I also own and operate my own signature sereis where EVERY male and transsexual is tested at A.I.M just like other mainstream companies,,,,,,Belladonna and many other mainstream performers are doing shemale stuff because WHY it sells and its just another venue for dvd sales. Transsexual Porn was the 2nd largest selling speciliaty porn in 2005.

Yes HIV is rapid in Brazil but NOT only with ts and gay performers but straight too,,,,,,Gay Males are 2nd in U.S to African American females yet anytime I hear the word interracial I dont see you screaming AIDS AIDS.

Biggotry has no gender and neither does AIDS

Wendy Williams

Posted by: zenman

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/19/06 06:33 PM

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HIV is rapid

Posted by: skylane

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/19/06 07:13 PM

So, I guess we can deduce that black/interracial and she male are high risk genres for contracting AIDS.

Posted by: Wendy Williams

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/19/06 08:08 PM

NO anyone whether of race or gender is at high risk if they have unprotected sex.

SIMPLE

I am no more high risk than you are.

Posted by: Jeff Steward

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/20/06 08:55 AM

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Belladonna and many other mainstream performers are doing shemale stuff because WHY it sells and its just another venue for dvd sales. Transsexual Porn was the 2nd largest selling speciliaty porn in 2005.

Wendy Williams

Well as long as it sells well thats whats really important.

Its good to know that you and a few other reckless company owners can put a price on life and death.Good for you.

Posted by: Wendy Williams

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/20/06 10:12 AM

How the fuck am I reckless? Every performer male, female or ts that I shoot and I ONLY shoot in AMerica is A.I.M tested are you that seriously stupid you dont get it. You are stereotyping me as a transsexual. I have NEVER had any type of sexually transmitted disease, ALL my performers are tested at A.I.M.

Its sad that something that happens in Brazil with male, ts and female performers is stereotyped to one gender in America,,fucking unreal.

I along with companies like Altered State, Devils, Joey Silvera, Anabolic whom I have shot for all required I have a test along with everyone in the scene JUST like mainstream..........

I dont live in Brazil and I dont shoot in Brazil so dont stereotype me as a "tranny" with H.I.V its wrong and outright stupid.

Posted by: Wendy Williams

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/20/06 10:17 AM

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Hmmm... this is all giving me too much second thought on every considering a tranny scene. Perhaps its not worth the risk. At all, even with a test. That sucks

Well as long as you arent going to Brazil or some foreign country than why would you not do it? Every tranny including myself I work with or know that works on a regular basis is tested every 30 days just like any male or female performer so are you going to rethink working period?? See the problem is a bunch of biggots who have NO facts spitting out garbage instead of the facts.

Fact is on avn.com and other boards you dont see any horror stories about ts performers coming to U.S and causing a H.I.V scare like you have with certain mainstream male performers? Truth is H.I.V is in numerous cases with MALE< TS< AND FEMALE performers in Brazil SIMPLE

I along with other performers including male and female are tested every 30 days, I dont shoot in Brazil and I dont shoot without my partner having a test so tell me why shooting with a tranny in the U.S would be any different than shooting with a female or male?

Posted by: Wendy Williams

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/20/06 10:32 AM

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Guys, I think Smartt makes a good point here.

I think US tranny porn doesn't test (some individuals do, but not tranny porn in general). This means you won't know if there is an HIV+ tranny performing, nor will you know if they're infecting anyone.(quote)

SWEETIE JRV YOU ARE A LIAR LIAR LIAR and a stupid biggot at that. Every company I as a tranny have worked for has required I be tested. Devils, Evil Angel, Anabolic, etcc EVERY U.S transsexual that works in the industry is required to have a current A.I.M test within 30 days. So please dont speak of such things you know nothing about you are only fueling to ignorance...I as well as Danielle Foxxx, Gia Darling, Allanah Starrr, Vanity, Vicki Rhicter and the list goes on could provide you a history of years worth of A.I.M tests.

Atleast get your facts straight before speaking.

Wendy

Posted by: k1ng

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/20/06 02:09 PM

Hey Wendy. Welcome to the board.

Posted by: Wendy Williams

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/20/06 02:29 PM

Thanks Sorry If I seem edgy LOL Just have a strong viewpoint on the issue.

Thanks for the welcum

Posted by: elaborator

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/20/06 02:39 PM

The King is our resident Tranny Specialist...if you have any questions,concerns,or your drink freshened...He is your man!

Posted by: Heyyou

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/20/06 02:55 PM

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Truth is H.I.V is in numerous cases with MALE< TS< AND FEMALE performers in Brazil SIMPLE

Wendy...do you know who they are ? Or how many ?

Posted by: Wendy Williams

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/20/06 03:18 PM

NO I couldnt even began too speculate how many or who.

Posted by: Joanna Jet

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/20/06 11:43 PM

Hello to all,

My name is Joanna Jet and I am a shemale/transsexual/tranny performer, producer and director.
This thread was kindly brought to my attention by a number of my industry peer who knew that I would have a vested interest.

Many of the posts in this thread debate the key question it presents, which is "How did the HIV positive status of a performer remain unchallenged for so many shoots over such a lengthy period?".
Unfortunately, the remainder appear to mostly focus on asserting shemales as being synonymous with HIV.

As a professional and knowledgeable member of the adult industry, I am no different than my male and female peers in wishing to safeguard my sexual health for not only my benefit but also for those with whom I perform on set.

I am therefore always deeply offended by bigoted comments such as "Big surprise.A she male whos HIV positive" which serve only to reinforce a negative stereotype that denies any values I may hold as an individual.

Yes, I am a shemale but I am also a performer who only has unprotected sex when on set and with established and tested performers.
So I now ask you, who is the greater risk and who is the most at risk?
Well the answer is that I am the one most at risk as I cannot vouch for an equivalent integrity from my fellow performers...

If all shemales had HIV, all muslims were terrorists, all blacks were thieves and all mexicans knew their place, then the world would be a far simpler place...

If a shemale can crawl out of the sexual disease gutter then surely a bigot can step out of the trailer park :-)

Yours,

Joanna Jet
xxx

Posted by: Bornyo

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/21/06 12:10 AM

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If all shemales had HIV, all muslims were terrorists, all blacks were thieves and all mexicans knew their place, then the world would be a far simpler place...

If a shemale can crawl out of the sexual disease gutter then surely a bigot can step out of the trailer park :-)

I read your entire post and this is the stupidest shit you included in there. Do you write bumper stickers for a living?

Posted by: k1ng

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/21/06 03:14 AM

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The King is our resident Tranny Specialist...if you have any questions,concerns,or your drink freshened...He is your man!

This is true and I would like to send a warm welcome to all those of the third gender. Joanna Jet welcome. Joanna and Wendy please don't take any of these other foolish hypocritical posters to heart. We all appreciate your contributions here at xpt and if you have any further questions that I can help you with please give me a PM.

Posted by: Morbs

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/21/06 09:44 PM

Just out interest. Have most of the AIDS outbreaks been linked to Brazil?

Also, what's the ratio on other STD's? In the non porn world you gotta watch Hep C, and Chlamydia, Herpes etc...just too name a few.

Scary industry...so what's the deal? Just AIDS testing?

Posted by: Jeff Steward

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/22/06 09:36 AM

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Its sad that something that happens in Brazil with male, ts and female performers is stereotyped to one gender in America,,fucking unreal.

I dont live in Brazil and I dont shoot in Brazil so dont stereotype me as a "tranny" with H.I.V its wrong and outright stupid.

Sure in a perfect world only Brazilians or people who fuck Brazilians would get AIDS but sorry it just aint so.

Posted by: Heyyou

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/22/06 07:12 PM

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Just out interest. Have most of the AIDS outbreaks been linked to Brazil?

No fellow, no. We had 2 outbreaks and the first one was typically american

Posted by: Heyyou

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/22/06 07:22 PM

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Its sad that something that happens in Brazil with male, ts and female performers is stereotyped to one gender in America,,fucking unreal.

I dont live in Brazil and I dont shoot in Brazil so dont stereotype me as a "tranny" with H.I.V its wrong and outright stupid.

Sure in a perfect world only Brazilians or people who fuck Brazilians would get AIDS but sorry it just aint so.

Bingo Jeff,
Wendy falls into a trap. TryingÂ´ not to stereotype but doing exactly the same...

I think that everyone must take a look at these links below...AIDS is a worldwide scare...and the first outbreak took place in San Francisco,CA...

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2156rank.html
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2155rank.html
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2157rank.html

Posted by: Wendy Williams

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/22/06 08:35 PM

No Im not falling in any trap,,the information you provided is WORLDWIDE we are talking about the porn industry and Im telling you that only 1 ts ,jennifer, has EVER been reported by A.I.M as testing positive here in the U.S,,,,,,,so I didnt fall in any trap Im talking about the adult industry NOT as a "whole" BIG DIFFERENCE.

Toodles

Posted by: Morbs

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/22/06 09:37 PM

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Just out interest. Have most of the AIDS outbreaks been linked to Brazil?

No fellow, no. We had 2 outbreaks and the first one was typically american

Are we talking about recent porn outbreaks?

Brazil always turns up in the media as the culprit. Just wondering how much proof there is?

Posted by: Wendy Williams

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/22/06 10:47 PM

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Just out interest. Have most of the AIDS outbreaks been linked to Brazil?

Also, what's the ratio on other STD's? In the non porn world you gotta watch Hep C, and Chlamydia, Herpes etc...just too name a few.

Scary industry...so what's the deal? Just AIDS testing?

Morbs when we are tested the 120 test is for three things; HIV, Chylymadia and ghonherria (sp on both sorry). Hope that helps.

Posted by: Morbs

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/22/06 11:08 PM

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Just out interest. Have most of the AIDS outbreaks been linked to Brazil?

Also, what's the ratio on other STD's? In the non porn world you gotta watch Hep C, and Chlamydia, Herpes etc...just too name a few.

Scary industry...so what's the deal? Just AIDS testing?

Morbs when we are tested the 120 test is for three things; HIV, Chylymadia and ghonherria (sp on both sorry). Hope that helps.

Thanks for the info. In the nonporn world, it's pretty much just condoms. Testing is pretty much left to long term relationships, or trusted partners.

Posted by: Heyyou

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/23/06 01:06 PM

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Are we talking about recent porn outbreaks?

Brazil always turns up in the media as the culprit. Just wondering how much proof there is?

Morbs...of course weÂ´re talking about recent porn outbreaks. IÂ´m talking to you that we had 2 of them. The first one between 1997/98 (100% North American) and the 2nd in 2004 (with a brazilian origin).

Now talking about Brazil. I think that if U have unprotected sex with a woman or a tranny wherever U are (US, France, Russia, Thailand, Brazil, South Africa...) U will be putting yourself is serious danger. ItÂ´s not a problem related to 'the place' and more about 'the behaviour'. Take a look at Stagliano and James...

Posted by: Ivor Biggun

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/23/06 01:18 PM

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NO anyone whether of race or gender is at high risk if they have unprotected sex.

SIMPLE

That may be the case in your idealized politically-correct utopia, but here in the real world it's obvious that if I went out and had unprotected sex with 100 random gay men versus 100 random women, I'd be much more likely to contract HIV. This is not a racist, sexist, or homophobic statement; it's simply a fact about the demographics of HIV transmission.

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I am no more high risk than you are.

Your personal risk level depends on your personal behavior, but the group you belong to certainly does present a higher risk.

Posted by: Wendy Williams

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/23/06 02:12 PM

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NO anyone whether of race or gender is at high risk if they have unprotected sex.

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Ivor Ivor the "group" I belong too? Sweetie let me educate you a bit whether you want to believe it or not BUT men that sleep with trannys 95% DONT sleep with "gay" men. They are ususaly bi-curious/Straight men who are intrigued or curious about the transsexual side of things. Most would rather eat glass than sleep with some hairy man. They are attracted by what they see: feminine body, breast, long hair, smooth skin etcc and the special surprise below. We as transsexuals usually dont associate within the gay community and live a pretty "noraml" life.

I totally agree that the gay community has a MUCH higher risk with H.I.V however the ts community as a whole isnt classified within that community. If you look at any website we are classified as "straight", "speciality", or "niche" NOT GAY!!

Yes it does depend on the person HOWEVER we are speaking about the overall generalization that TS within the adult industry are high risk and I argue that is a bunch of BULL,,,,,,,,,,,I as well as my fellow ts performers go by the same regulations that mainstream performers do. Simple those of us who work full-time or are well known in our industry get tested at A.I.M and abide by the same rules.

Hope that helps
Wendy

That may be the case in your idealized politically-correct utopia, but here in the real world it's obvious that if I went out and had unprotected sex with 100 random gay men versus 100 random women, I'd be much more likely to contract HIV. This is not a racist, sexist, or homophobic statement; it's simply a fact about the demographics of HIV transmission.

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I am no more high risk than you are.

Your personal risk level depends on your personal behavior, but the group you belong to certainly does present a higher risk.

Posted by: isabel

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/23/06 02:19 PM

Actually, the risk of infection depends more on whether or not you receive anal. If you are the 'top', or rather if you fuck somebody in the ass rather than take it in the ass, your risks are significantly reduced, regardless of the sex of the person on the bottom.

It is much easier to tear the tissue of the vagina, and certainly the anus, letting the virus penetrate into the blood stream, over tearing the skin of the cock.

Therefore you would not be 'much more lightly' to catch HIV from having sex with women than with gay men, you would be much more lightly to catch HIV from recieving semen in the ass.

PEOPLE WHO ENGAGE IN ANAL SEX, REGARDLESS OF GENDER, ARE THE MOST AT RISK OF CONTRACTING THE DISEASE.

Then people who engage in reckless behavior, are even more in danger...

Posted by: Ivor Biggun

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/23/06 04:24 PM

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Sweetie let me educate you a bit whether you want to believe it or not BUT men that sleep with trannys 95% DONT sleep with "gay" men. They are ususaly bi-curious/Straight men who are intrigued or curious about the transsexual side of things. Most would rather eat glass than sleep with some hairy man. They are attracted by what they see: feminine body, breast, long hair, smooth skin etcc and the special surprise below. We as transsexuals usually dont associate within the gay community and live a pretty "noraml" life.

I totally agree that the gay community has a MUCH higher risk with H.I.V however the ts community as a whole isnt classified within that community. If you look at any website we are classified as "straight", "speciality", or "niche" NOT GAY!!

Please learn to format your posts.

Firstly, I didn't classify transsexuals as gay, I merely used the extreme example to disprove your point that unprotected sex is "HIGH RISK. SIMPLE", by pointing out the vastly different relative risks in different scenarios. However, there is one key reason why transexuals are in a similar risk bracket as gay men. It comes down to Isabel's point that receiving anal sex is the riskiest activity. One of the big reasons HIV spread so quickly through the gay community is that a "taker" can also be a "giver", greatly increasing the likelihood of retransmission. This also applies to transsexuals.

Secondly, your notions about "straight" men liking transsexuals is laughable. Risk levels depend on a person's behavior, not their self-chosen label. There's a whole gay subculture of men who insist they are 100% "Str8", despite regularly having sex with other men. If you think that men who fuck transsexuals are representative of the general risk level of straight guys, you're kidding yourself.

What's hypocritical is how you so readily acknowledge the higher risk within the gay community, but yourself try to lay claim to the lower risk of heterosexuals. Perhaps if you were one of those who were born male, wanted to be female, went the whole way surgically and tried to integrate into society as a woman, you could rightfully make that claim. Far be it from me to deny your right to celebrate your "third gender", but by choosing to be a chick with a dick you are most definately setting yourself apart from the regular heterosexual community. You're higher risk in terms of both the acts that you perform and people that would perform them with you.

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those of us who work full-time or are well known in our industry get tested at A.I.M and abide by the same rules.

AIM is irrelevant when discussing these risks; it's all about the Darren James scenario.

Posted by: isabel

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/24/06 03:19 AM

I don't know Wendy, but I DO know Joanna Jet, she is the UK's leading trans. performer, and I know that the point she would like to come across is that she wants to be treated the same way and equal to any other person who works in adult and abides by the rules, for eg:

-Joanna (and othe trans. performers here on the board) care about their own health.
-Joanna and Wendy both report to the appropriate medical associations in which ever country they are working in, for their STD/STI tests.
-Joanna and co. do not conduct themselves inapropriatly/different to any other girl outside of work.
-Joanna and co. fuck only with tested individuals.

Point being, individualy, they are equally responsible, as the rest of the industry people, and I am sure that they are sick of being accused, or scape-goated by the actions of other people.

Yes, it is true that in Brasil there are many cases of HIV+ individuals of all genders.(esp. in the trans-gender community BUT...) This is because of inadiquate information/education for the general population of what is a 3rd world country. We have established that transmision, although not imposible vaginaly, or through the penis, mostly occurs through recieving anal sex. Straight females, gay/bi men, and trans. all are in a higher risk catogory.
True, transgender people can be the reciever and the giver, like bi-sexual men, but that still does not change the fact that if you are a responsible human being, you do NOT deserve to be bracketed because of certain 'facts', or the actions of others.

I believe that companies, and individuals who shoot in 3rd World area's with high HIV % should take responsibility to quarentine themselves before entering the regular market again in the Western World, or anywhere else.
I don't recall any member of the transsexual porn community EVER being responsible for an outbreak once within the US. (i may be wrong, but I don't think so) True, in Brasil, people may have caught the virus, and it may have been from a transgender person, but they brought it back with them. I would assumbe, that when you work, (or in private) in Brasil, you may have a clue that it may be a good idea to quarentine yourself for a while, nipping as much heart-ache as possible in the bud.

Don't blame the transsexual performers who play by all of the rules, blame the production companies that don't.

Posted by: Morbs

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/26/06 09:24 PM

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Are we talking about recent porn outbreaks?

Brazil always turns up in the media as the culprit. Just wondering how much proof there is?

Morbs...of course weÂ´re talking about recent porn outbreaks. IÂ´m talking to you that we had 2 of them. The first one between 1997/98 (100% North American) and the 2nd in 2004 (with a brazilian origin).

Now talking about Brazil. I think that if U have unprotected sex with a woman or a tranny wherever U are (US, France, Russia, Thailand, Brazil, South Africa...) U will be putting yourself is serious danger. ItÂ´s not a problem related to 'the place' and more about 'the behaviour'. Take a look at Stagliano and James...

Sure, I agree. But how hard is to get AIDS from women, via vaginal sex?
Compared to being on the receiving of anal sex?

Interesting discussion.

Posted by: Bad_Bad

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/26/06 09:48 PM

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Are we talking about recent porn outbreaks?

Brazil always turns up in the media as the culprit. Just wondering how much proof there is?

Morbs...of course weÂ´re talking about recent porn outbreaks. IÂ´m talking to you that we had 2 of them. The first one between 1997/98 (100% North American) and the 2nd in 2004 (with a brazilian origin).

Now talking about Brazil. I think that if U have unprotected sex with a woman or a tranny wherever U are (US, France, Russia, Thailand, Brazil, South Africa...) U will be putting yourself is serious danger. ItÂ´s not a problem related to 'the place' and more about 'the behaviour'. Take a look at Stagliano and James...

Sure, I agree. But how hard is to get AIDS from women, via vaginal sex?
Compared to being on the receiving of anal sex?

Interesting discussion.

Tommy Morrison (The Duke's Grandson) got it from women.

Posted by: isabel

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/27/06 01:03 AM

Be as careful as posible, and read as much as possible.
Here is a quick link to a very basic description of transmission. If u want further details, search the web yourself!
<src img="http://www.metrokc.gov/health/apu/infograms/hiv_transmission_0302.htm">

Posted by: Jeff Steward

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/27/06 08:25 AM

If you fuck or are fucked by she males you are going to get the AIDS.Thats a FACT!

Posted by: Wendy Williams

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/27/06 05:01 PM

And your stupidity just topped the ignorant list. I have fucked and been fucked in over 50 videos and NOT 1 person has or is infected with H.I.V or any other std,,,and my monthly A.I.M results show that,,,pure biggoted trash talk.

Posted by: elaborator

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/27/06 05:05 PM

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pure biggoted trash talk

That's why he makes the Big Bucks!

Posted by: elaborator

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/27/06 07:59 PM

Shemales Rock!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2-iwHbnXXo&search=new%20york%20dolls

Posted by: Morbs

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/27/06 10:27 PM

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Are we talking about recent porn outbreaks?

Brazil always turns up in the media as the culprit. Just wondering how much proof there is?

Morbs...of course weÂ´re talking about recent porn outbreaks. IÂ´m talking to you that we had 2 of them. The first one between 1997/98 (100% North American) and the 2nd in 2004 (with a brazilian origin).

Now talking about Brazil. I think that if U have unprotected sex with a woman or a tranny wherever U are (US, France, Russia, Thailand, Brazil, South Africa...) U will be putting yourself is serious danger. ItÂ´s not a problem related to 'the place' and more about 'the behaviour'. Take a look at Stagliano and James...

Sure, I agree. But how hard is to get AIDS from women, via vaginal sex?
Compared to being on the receiving of anal sex?

Interesting discussion.

Tommy Morrison (The Duke's Grandson) got it from women.

yeah I remember hearing about that. there was a few 'noted' celebs that got AIDS in the 90's. Remember Easy-E, NWA?

So MANY straight people have sex without condoms these days, yet AIDS have kinda left the media.

Now it's HPV and Hep C, they are creeping up on the kill ratio, may even overtake AIDS.

Posted by: kate

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/28/06 07:20 AM

No-one catches a disease because of sexual orientation or sexual identity. However, people will catch diseases from someone who is infected. This may be a straight person, a gay person, a bisexual man, a bisexual woman, a tranny or a hermaphrodite. My basic point is that disease doesn't discriminate according to one's sexual orientation or sexual identity. My advice to the straight porn industry is to get over it and stop blaming trannies and the gay community for your own inadequacies.

Posted by: Jeff Steward

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 06/30/06 08:45 AM

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And your stupidity just topped the ignorant list. I have fucked and been fucked in over 50 videos and NOT 1 person has or is infected with H.I.V or any other std,,,and my monthly A.I.M results show that,,,pure biggoted trash talk.

Damn your awfully bitchy for a dude.

If you wernt such a genetic misfit I might just fall for you.

Posted by: Ekarth22

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 09/22/11 09:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Smartt

Then tell me, genius: if anyone in the US knows that our trannies are HIV+, THEN WHY THE FUCK GUYS LIKE FAGLIANO, ROCCO, TT BOY, NACHO AND SILVERA KEEP GETTING BUTT-SLAMMED BY THEM - BAREBACK????

Because they're the Chuck Norrises of porno-world. Even HIV cannot infect them. The sheer awesomeness in their DNA, kills any invading virus be it HIV, Herpes, Syphilis or anything, same is true for Brandon Iron and ChristianXXX.

If paperchase and superloads had not bunked the biology classes during highschool years, they'd have known this fact and wouldn't keep repeating their herpes test argument against Brandon's magnificent Iron.

Posted by: Barry the Pirate

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 09/23/11 09:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Ekarth22

Originally Posted By: Smartt

Then tell me, genius: if anyone in the US knows that our trannies are HIV+, THEN WHY THE FUCK GUYS LIKE FAGLIANO, ROCCO, TT BOY, NACHO AND SILVERA KEEP GETTING BUTT-SLAMMED BY THEM - BAREBACK????

Coke, is that you?

Posted by: frankie fatale

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 09/23/11 01:15 PM

lol sheer awesomeness.we have a master troll on our hands.

Posted by: LouCypher

Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers. - 09/23/11 01:39 PM

the fact that he bumped a smartt thread should tell you something...

SERIOUS warning for adult performers.