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#482997 - 04/03/10 03:15 PM Antennas, Hexbeams, OCF Dipoles, 6BTVs, Etc.
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#482998 - 04/03/10 04:07 PM Re: Antennas, Hexbeams, OCF Dipoles, 6BTVs, Etc.
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I have one of the early PAR end-fed 20M antennas, for 20 watts, I think. I've only used it for field work backpacking with my Elecraft K-1, but it worked great. I'm looking at those now.

Tell me more about the folded dipole, how high do you have it up, and can you work top band with it? I would think it would suck for QRP, but everything else would be OK, actually, broadbanded and quiet?

Actually, best for me if I can get some aluminum up might be a roll my own 80-40-30 parallel dipole?
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#482999 - 04/03/10 05:46 PM Re: Antennas, Hexbeams, OCF Dipoles, 6BTVs, Etc.
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#483000 - 04/03/10 05:56 PM Re: Antennas, Hexbeams, OCF Dipoles, 6BTVs, Etc.
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Let em have their fun.... It's no worse than Berry going on about Usenet when we all know JRV and maybe Zen could take him to school in a nanosecond.
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#483001 - 04/03/10 06:09 PM Re: Antennas, Hexbeams, OCF Dipoles, 6BTVs, Etc.
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Damnation a Ham thread all our own. Everybody get yer fukken ham license and quit whining !!!!
The OCF dipole is up about 60 feet at the apex and about 10 to 12 feet on the ends. I wish it was higher but I've worked a shitpot of DX with it. It does not cover topband or 30 or 15. It would cover the last two with a good external tuner though not efficiently. People are surprised at my signal on 80 and 40 with just 100 watts. The B&W is very broad banded and of course a bit of a compromise for transmitting but both antennas suit my purposes well. I like to change bands quickly and listen more than talk. I worked both South Korea and the South Pole with the B&W so don't let anyone tell you they can't be heard.
Have you ever tried an Inverted L ? I have a friend that swears by his for the lower bands.
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#483002 - 04/03/10 06:12 PM Re: Antennas, Hexbeams, OCF Dipoles, 6BTVs, Etc.
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Oh and thank you Jeff !
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#483003 - 04/03/10 06:35 PM Re: Antennas, Hexbeams, OCF Dipoles, 6BTVs, Etc.
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Yeah, Jeff's OK, I don't care what Lou says about him...

Wow, you must be blessed with nice trees.

I don't want an L because I already have the vertical for low angle. 160, I dunno. But I want regional on 80/40/30 to go with the DX angles of the vertical, I have the hexbeam for DX on the higher bands. If I get a tower.

I need to study about Windoms, I don't understand them. But, I don't understand how you can feed a dipole directly with coax, either...

Maybe I should box up the hexbeam and put up another decent wire antenna, using the garage like in the picture, I could put another push up mast 30 feet and put a 10 foot extension on it, tie the short end to my chimney, and the long end to another mast. I dunno. Take all the shit down and be happy with my vertical?
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#483004 - 04/03/10 06:44 PM Re: Antennas, Hexbeams, OCF Dipoles, 6BTVs, Etc.
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Jiff knows what I say about him.. don't even try oldster.
Can you pick up the nascar channels on that network/current?. I'd like that.
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#483005 - 04/03/10 07:08 PM Re: Antennas, Hexbeams, OCF Dipoles, 6BTVs, Etc.
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If you want regional coverage on the low bands go NVIS !
I don't really have that many trees but I have one in the front yard and tower beside my house. There is a row of pines on the fence in the back yard with the power line for elect. coming in from the corner. Thus, the need for OCF dipoles and the shortened B&W. I really am thinking seriously about a vertical of some type. I don't want to have to put down radials but I guess that's almost a prerequisite for good performance. Ever notice no matter how many antennas you have it's never enough ?
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#483006 - 04/03/10 07:28 PM Re: Antennas, Hexbeams, OCF Dipoles, 6BTVs, Etc.
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Any horizontally polarized antenna I put up for 160 or 80 will be NVIS because of the height!

Radials were a breeze using my edger. I got a roll of wire from Home Depot, some ring connectors, and some of the big staples for staple guns and it only took a couple hours to put them down. I hammered the ends down with the staples, so they would stay in place. The radials are hard to find after a couple weeks.

Resonance counts in the city, for noise and TVI.

In the spring, an old man's thoughts turn to antennas...
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#483007 - 04/04/10 12:12 PM QRV !
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The vertical needs a little tweaking, but the big Ten Tec tuner takes it from 3:1 at points on down to where it needs to be. I think 4 or 5 of those radials may have become destroyed, etc. over the years, and the feedline is marginal. But, I hear lots of stuff, once I plugged the right cable into the lightning arrestors on the copper plate in the basement.

I had a towel over all this shit, but after two years, the amp tuned up fine and I've got 800+W on 7200 kHz, but I have that "warm" 60 Hz smell and feel. I'm sure it will be fine. Oh, that was after I figured out I had the menu item on the TS570 for the amp control turned off...

TS-830 was slow to come to life, I didn't try to tune the output yet. Other fish to fry. I know if I start on the K-1, I will have the oscilloscope out trying to get that last 500 mW.

Heard some folks on 17, nothing on 15 , but I only stayed a couple seconds.

Fucked with the rotor controller and took it outside, cut the control cable, re-wired it, and it works. I had a fucked up control cable somewhere, now I gotta cobble together enough 3 lead line to get back to the shack.

Gonna get the ladder out and get the pole straight, maybe I can go up a pinch, and I need to tighten the guy lines. Give me a PM if you want to teach me how to talk.

After I get down from the ladder, I may clear off the desk and make a couple QSO's. Back in the saddle, again, but with a directional antenna hi hi

73,
n8** (it swings on CW)

2200Z 14028 kHz barefoot 559 into Algeria 7X4AN, Hexbeam @ 21', could not hear him on the vertical!



Little fucker still works, off the old 9V battery. Didn't QSO, but I heard lots of signals and it bumps the wattmeter. Should be rock bound on 7040 and about 800mW.


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#483008 - 04/04/10 05:17 PM Re: QRV !
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If you have a good tuner why not try a Zep fed with ladder line ? On another note, do you know anything about the Yaesu FT-1000 mp ? My internal auto tuner buggered out on me ?
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#483009 - 04/04/10 06:28 PM Re: QRV !
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#483010 - 04/04/10 06:38 PM Re: QRV !
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Awesome little Altoids project there, Chuck. Did you build from plans?
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#483011 - 04/04/10 06:42 PM Re: QRV !
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#483012 - 04/04/10 06:59 PM Re: QRV !
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Thanks for the links Chuck but I've tried pretty much all the tricks there. Guess it's going to the Yaesu hospital.
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#483013 - 04/07/10 10:06 AM Re: QRV !
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#483014 - 05/05/10 03:14 PM Re: Antennas, Hexbeams, OCF Dipoles, 6BTVs, Etc.
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I'm hoping for an erection soon

Got 40 foot and a 30 foot Rohn masts and associated hardware to guy them, new feedline, and an Alpha-Delta DX-LB. After all is done, I'll have the Hexbeam at about 38 feet (optimal!), the dipole center at 35, one end at 28, the other at about 23, and a 6BTV with 3 dozen radials. I am going to parallel a 30M dipole on the DX-LB, and I have a Unidilla 1:1 balun to replace the A-D center thingy. Anything that's missing, I can grab at the big show in a week and a half.

I saw a Colling 32S-3 transmitter that would be a great match for that R390A receiver, too. I'm attempting to exercise restraint.
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#483015 - 05/05/10 05:00 PM Re: QRV !
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Do you still need to learn Morse code to get higher than a technician class license?? I know when they introduced the code-less class license that alot of people who took an interest were looked down upon, harassed or ignored by hams with the CW endorsements.
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#483016 - 05/05/10 05:21 PM Re: QRV !
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One of the goinks on the production floor is full on into Hams. I should shake some info outta him next time I have an office day just so I can keep up here. I know 5 wps gets you something as far as the morse thing goes.
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#483017 - 05/05/10 05:32 PM Re: QRV !
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No more morse code test.
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#483018 - 05/05/10 05:44 PM Re: QRV !
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That's some bullshit right there... who let that happen?.

I'm pretty sure you and BDM could MC the face off of people from what I know.
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#483019 - 05/05/10 06:21 PM Re: QRV !
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Shit, Lou, Morse Code is second nature to Charin. He could do it after an 18 fridgepack of Black Label beer. (And he did).

These fuckin' amateurs getting into ham now and getting all the air time on CNN for covering and reporting natural disasters are what is ruining the hobby. It's enough to drive a man to drink.

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#483020 - 05/05/10 06:29 PM Re: QRV !
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Back in the day Chuck could have probably tossed his old lady into doggy and tapped out the next 4 four positions on her hemorrhoids without saying a word. That's pretty fucken epic, that's a connection.
I respect that shit.
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#483021 - 05/05/10 06:42 PM Re: QRV !
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I read online that back in the day of the telegraph, the operators were provided whiskey. They knew then that a limited number of shots...say two or maybe three would steady their fingers and they actually could transmit much faster and with more accuracy. It was almost a requirement as it took the edge off and allowed the guys to focus on the job at hand.

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#483022 - 05/05/10 07:12 PM Re: QRV !
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Music to my ears!

I want to be a Chicken Fat Operator some day.

-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
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#483023 - 05/14/10 03:17 PM Re: QRV !
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Motorcycle parking is free at the Hamvention.

The haul so far:
150' of stranded copper
3 sets of cans (old plastic headsets high impedance)
More wire antenna classics book free w/ARRL re-up
Caig de-oxit and a can of air
A pound of coffee from the blind guy
Shit load of black wire ties
Some mix 31 ferrite cores

There is a Barker and Williamson 5100B transmitter I am considering.

I'm also thinking about a bug and one of those dealies where you add extra weight to get it below 20 WPM.

Wish you were here, BDM and CQ. BTW, I saw many young guys working on old stuff, that's great. But, the homebrew display area was really empty...

-Chuck, Vegetarian ham
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#483024 - 05/14/10 03:52 PM Re: QRV !
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I wish to fuck I was there too ! Just don't have the stamina right now. It's hard to describe the ginormity of Dayton to someone who has never been. I've been talking to some of my friends on the IRLP reflector there in Dayton in the flea market on our UHF linked system from the house today. Pretty neat.

On a sour note...one of my friends had a new Yaesu VX 8DR with mic and gps stolen right off his belt today inside the arena.
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#483025 - 05/15/10 08:37 AM Re: QRV !
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#483026 - 05/19/10 07:32 AM Re: QRV !
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About ready to pound some brass...



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#483027 - 05/26/10 08:32 PM Re: QRV !
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New antennas are up. Serbia 339 at greyline, 85 watts, I heard him 579. W1AW is S9+30 on 1806 kHz right now. I like it, this is rugged stuff that should stay up for a few years. Easy to work on, anyway.



The wire and the vertical are narrow down low, so CW only on 80 and 160. <2.0:1 all other Ham bands up to 10M. Now, damnit, fix this:



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#483028 - 05/27/10 01:20 AM Re: QRV !
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this seems like it shouldve been a panzer thread.
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#483029 - 05/27/10 07:06 AM Re: QRV !
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If it was a Panzer thread the only use these antennas would get would be to steal the local cable television channel's signal.
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#483030 - 05/27/10 07:50 AM Re: QRV !
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If it was a Panzer thread the only use these antennas would get would be to steal the local cable television channel's signal.




... before or after being used as an anal probe??
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#483031 - 05/27/10 12:21 PM Re: QRV !
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why not both?
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#483032 - 05/27/10 03:44 PM Re: QRV !
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#483033 - 06/05/10 07:10 AM Re: QRV !
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QRP
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#483034 - 06/05/10 07:28 AM Re: QRV !
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#483035 - 06/05/10 07:42 AM Re: QRV !
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QRQ
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#483036 - 06/05/10 06:26 PM Re: QRV !
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^ Very cool and she's adorable !
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#483037 - 06/05/10 06:57 PM Re: QRV !
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I like the irritated look when RT4F asks her to repeat her call.
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#483038 - 06/05/10 07:14 PM Re: QRV !
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I got the TS-830 up and running, I'm going to use it as my main rig for awhile. It needed some general cleanup and contact cleaner for the bandswitches and front panel pots.



I also resurrected some old test equipment I was given, hollow state signal generator and a very neat signal tracer. The green glow closes up at the bottom as the signal gets stronger. It has a very good speaker, too. Notice the modulation shown on the 'scope, from the old tube signal generator.



Tubes are fun! I might homebrew a transmitter to use with my R-390A.

-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy

Yeah, there's a tube inside the probe bottom left!


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#483039 - 06/12/10 09:33 PM Re: QRV !
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Went to the Knoxville ham fest today. Bought some LMR 400 flexi, a repeater directory and some connectors. Started to buy a Yaesu FT-450 but backed out. Pretty good little ham fest. Went to the gun show at Chilhowie park after. I'm fucking pooped.
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#483040 - 06/13/10 12:54 AM Re: QRV !
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" Pretty good little ham fest."

thats what she said.
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#483041 - 06/22/10 01:18 PM Don't make 'em like they used to...
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I got bit by a new bug.



I am going to restore this beautiful late 50's Zenith bakelite tube radio.



Here's the innards. Pretty simple, 7 tubes, they should be good. Or maybe not, they are not that difficult to find, or I might have them on hand. I'll replace most of the capacitors, and check all the circuits' resistance before I power things up. After a good cleanup and some soft cloth/Brasso TLC, this should be a nice set, with good sound from the tubes and the nice speaker.



How'd a solid state diode get in there? Luckily, the diagram for this circuit is online. I will see if I can find a good rectifier tube, or maybe I'll let it be.

Of course, I had to get more than one. Sorry about the picture quality.





I'll let ya'll know how it all turns out. Might be a little while, I have to go back to work after Field Day this weekend.

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#483042 - 06/23/10 07:13 PM Re: Don't make 'em like they used to...
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Selenium rectifier. They never told me about these in school.



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#483043 - 06/23/10 07:28 PM Re: Don't make 'em like they used to...
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I have a friend you would like. He restores old mics ! If you get on the link I told you about you will be able to talk to him.
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#483044 - 08/03/10 07:23 PM Re: Don't make 'em like they used to...
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Free signal generator.



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#483045 - 08/03/10 08:49 PM Re: Don't make 'em like they used to...
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IRLP node 9613
Boy the CME cocked up HF yesterday something awful.
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#483046 - 09/04/10 08:41 AM Re: Don't make 'em like they used to...
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Man, I got some weird shit here, and tons of it. Prototype shit from the 70's and early 80's. I don't know where this Bubba up north got it, but I think some guy from the Air Force base must have squirreled this shit away for 20 years and dumped it on him. A lot of it I can find datasheets for, a lot of it I can't.



Upper left is a prototype TI op amp, I really want to know what the cans are with 12 leads, and the thing on the bottom, I don't have a clue. Early prototype IC's. Gobs of 8-bit microprocessors and UV-erasable ROMs. Just the connectors and switches and alligator clips and assorted hardware puts me in great shape for building and repairing.

I have a very deep junk box now. I might build something using two of the two dozen or so power MOSFETs with a power dissipation of 15W and a gain-frequency of 65 MHz. Or, back to the tubes?

Jesus, I'll be forever sorting and researching this stuff, I've spent a fair amount on storage bins already. This is going to be a fun winter.




A guy at work want me to let him melt it down for the gold. I'd rather play with it. I wonder how toxic some of this crap is?


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