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#113882 - 07/27/05 10:29 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
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Loc: Los Angeles
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You see a new outbreak from a tranny that has been HIV positive for 7 years? 7 years. Where was this tranny from?
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#113884 - 07/27/05 10:48 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/30/03
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You see a new outbreak from a tranny that has been HIV positive for 7 years? 7 years. Where was this tranny from?
Read all about that here.. She did TONS of movies for Joey Silvera and other producers, but just today she was discovered to be HIV-positive.
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#113886 - 07/27/05 11:14 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Smartt, where was the tranny from?
Brazil. But she got her AIDS from John Fagliano to begin with, so there.
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#113888 - 07/29/05 11:02 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Smartt, where was the tranny from?
Brazil.
Big surprise.A she male whos HIV positive. 
Then tell me, genius: if anyone in the US knows that our trannies are HIV+, THEN WHY THE FUCK GUYS LIKE FAGLIANO, ROCCO, TT BOY, NACHO AND SILVERA KEEP GETTING BUTT-SLAMMED BY THEM - BAREBACK????
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#113890 - 07/29/05 05:11 PM
Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers.
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Pervert
Registered: 05/31/03
Posts: 2211
Loc: TX
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How do you know she was positive for 7 years?
Renee Pornero, Jessica Darlin, Arianna Jolee, Cris Talina are just some of the girls who did some evil angel movies bareback with trannies, yet I doubt anyone is taking any more caution when working with them or when working with someone who just worked with them. The industry is deluded and everyone has an it wont happen to me attitude all the time. until someone is revealed to be positive, there is no blacklist.
Edited by Mike Meatmaster (07/29/05 05:22 PM)
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#113891 - 07/29/05 06:30 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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I'd be more worried about finding a tranny surprise in Thailand. I think they have more per-capita trannies than Brazil.
After 30 days, as long as the tests are honest, it's probably no riskier to work with those girls than any other: if they test HIV- at or after the 30 day mark they're probably really HIV-.
But, if someone shoots a bi or tranny scene, condom or not, she should be avoided for some time, probably 30 days. As long as bi (and I think tranny) porn allows HIV+ performers to work then they can't be trusted, and a condom doesn't add a lot of protection (in my opinion).
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#113892 - 07/29/05 07:50 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/30/03
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How do you know she was positive for 7 years?
When she died, they discovered that she was HIV+ during the autopsy, and it was a large account of viruses according to the Western Blot test.
A friend that lived with her told the press that she knew she was HIV+ for over 7 years, but that fact cannot be confirmed.
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Renee Pornero, Jessica Darlin, Arianna Jolee, Cris Talina are just some of the girls who did some evil angel movies bareback with trannies
I don´t know about the other trannies. I just know about this particular one, Camila de Castro.
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#113893 - 07/29/05 08:17 PM
Re: SERIOUS warning for adult performers.
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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Guys, I think Smartt makes a good point here.
I think US tranny porn doesn't test (some individuals do, but not tranny porn in general). This means you won't know if there is an HIV+ tranny performing, nor will you know if they're infecting anyone.
If a tranny is HIV+ and none of their partners test, it's not shocking this might go on for 7 or more years. How will you know? What prevents it? Especially if a few partners do find themselves HIV+ too, why would they tell anyone if the industry doesn't test them?
Smartt, are coroner's reports public records in Brazil in a case like this? That report might note if Camilla is HIV+, and given the “7 years†stuff I'd bet Camilla's medical history shows an HIV+ result 7 years ago and the coroner noted that in the report.
The point is, if you don't test, they're probably HIV+, and there's no reason to believe they haven't been HIV+ for a long time. Moreover, if you don't test, they'll almost certainly keep right on working, even if they do find out they're HIV+. It would be wildly optimistic to assume they haven't been HIV+ for years.
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#113894 - 07/29/05 09:59 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Smartt, are coroner's reports public records in Brazil in a case like this?
I don´t know.
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That report might note if Camilla is HIV+, and given the “7 years†stuff I'd bet Camilla's medical history shows an HIV+ result 7 years ago and the coroner noted that in the report.
Camilla´s body was left on the street for over FIVE HOURS, until it was found out and led to the morgue. Due to this long period, it is impossible, even with the WB test, to know how long she was HIV+. The account of "7 years" was made by a friend of hers.
Camilla avoided testings anyway she could, that I know. She ran from tests like a vampire from a cross. You couldn´t speak about tests near her, she´d become furious.
About testing, in all the years Fagliano and co. filmed in Brazil, they never, NEVER required any HIV test from the performers. It wasn´t even a case of presenting a fake test; they simply didn´t asked at all.
Same thing goes to the ppl who are currently doing the Brazilbang.com series. I´ve downloaded some of their movies, and I can assure that at least two of their performers is HIV+, the ones whose pics are attached.
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#113897 - 07/30/05 09:43 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/30/03
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Yet, when you actually WATCH the Extreme Brazil series, (and I have) the guys (Earl Slate and Luciano) are CLEARLY using condoms.
So fucking what? They fucked the girls without condoms OFF CAMERA.
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And Rob Black is alive and well.
Again, so fucking what? He left Brazil after the threads, AND NEVER CAME BACK.
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#113899 - 07/30/05 11:07 AM
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Porn Jesus
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It's all moot, though, as neither Slate nor Luciano came up HIV+
How do you know that? Cuz they told you? We all know pornstars don't lie. Did you saw their HIV tests? Fucking an HIV+ doesn´t mean you´ll get AIDS, but it IS risky.
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Again, how do you know he never came back? Does Brazil issue a press release whenever an American enters their country?
Of course they do. Their local distribution company makes a huge fuzz everytime one of them nobody´s set foot here.
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I know Byron went back.(Extreme Brazil 4)
TOM BYRON went back, ROB BLACK didn´t. Tom Byron didn´t messed with the g/f of a drug lord, Rob Black did.
Whatever.
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#113901 - 07/30/05 11:29 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 12/03/03
Posts: 255
Loc: DoodyVille
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TOM BYRON went back, ROB BLACK didn´t. Tom Byron didn´t messed with the g/f of a drug lord, Rob Black did.
Real quick and then I'm done here - (I'm not part of the anti-Smartt crowd, I actually find you somewhat amusing)
I scanned through Extreme Brazil 3 just now, and it seems Rob DID go back to Brazil for some convention or something, so it seems he was undeterred by this "drug lord's" threats. I'm curious as to who the GF is who would inspire such wrath. Who was it? Was she in the movies? And how did he "messed" with her?
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#113903 - 07/30/05 02:36 PM
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Porn Jesus
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I scanned through Extreme Brazil 3 just now, and it seems Rob DID go back to Brazil for some convention or something, so it seems he was undeterred by this "drug lord's"
The threats happened during the shooting of EB3.
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#113905 - 07/30/05 02:38 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Smartt, how do you know those two girls are HIV+? And wouldn't that almost garuntee that the rest of the people in that scene are now HIV+?
I know that the girls are HIV+.
But that doesn´t mean the performers GOT HIV+ from fucking ´em. HIV is highly contagious, but there are cases when ppl just get lucky.
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#113906 - 07/30/05 02:54 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 7888
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This is what was puzzling me last week- certain companies may have a no anal creampie policy for safety but then the same company is starting to shoot more and more shemale stuff. It doesn't seem to be a well thought out policy at all. Trying to protect the people that work under you with the no anal creampie policy is fine if you would also ban working with gays (bi titles) and shemales (especially without a condom).
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#113907 - 07/30/05 03:08 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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Hmmm... this is all giving me too much second thought on every considering a tranny scene. Perhaps its not worth the risk. At all, even with a test. That sucks
Yeah – even if the tranny is well-meaning and not hooking or screwing around outside the tranny porn industry, just working in that environment makes it tough. Good intentions aren't enough and just having a test doesn't necessarily say much if they regularly work with untested partners.
I can imagine one possible way you might do the tranny thing: time the tests around the shoot rather than just take some 29-day-old test result. I have not seen such data but I bet there scientific estimates on how well the PCR and anti-body tests work at short intervals (a scale of hours or days) after infection and the odds an infection can be passed on at that time. I don't know the terminology to search for such things but maybe you can.
It may be possible to say something like “if a Monday anti-body test and a Tuesday PCR are both negative, a Wednesday shoot might have acceptable risk.†It also assumes you can lock the tranny in your basement for a day or two so they're not out screwing around getting infected after the tests.
It's a lot of hassle & expense and not something you'd do very often, but for a one-time thing to check that fantasy off your list it might work – but only with a lot of thought, and only to YOUR standards, not to what a tranny performer or tranny director is used to doing. It would probably be best to be a scene you shot for your website to make sure they weren't blowing off the safety issue, intentionally or otherwise.
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#113909 - 07/31/05 01:20 AM
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Porn Jesus
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PS. Evil Angel shoots so much tranny and gay stuff these days I suspect they could afford to keep someone on-staff licensed to do the “instant†anti-body tests. Whether they could find enough gay/tranny performers to pass the test is a different question.
One of the reasons I hate Stanlay Miranda, Fagliano´s liaison in Brazil, so much, is related to a fake HIV test. And if Fagliano knew the whole story (I told him part of it, but he choose not to believe it, so fuck him), he would fire Stanlay´s ass and shut down the brazilian branch of Evil Angel... THEN.
Now, it´s too late. He´s HIV+ now, his movies aren´t selling as much in the USA as they used to be, and his biggest revues still come from the Brazilian VHS sales - that are waning as well, I must add.
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#113912 - 08/04/05 10:50 AM
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Pervert
Registered: 05/31/03
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I thought Belladonna did that a while ago and used a condom.
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#113914 - 08/07/05 09:11 PM
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Pervert
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Thats interesting, a while back when asked on her site she said she wouldn't be doing trannies again. Do you know if this was bareback or with condoms?
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#113915 - 08/09/05 10:24 AM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 07/04/05
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Thats interesting, a while back when asked on her site she said she wouldn't be doing trannies again. Do you know if this was bareback or with condoms?
I thought I saw your name on the boards there. No if you are a member you can view the "teaser" and it looks bareback to my eyes. 
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#113916 - 06/19/06 06:04 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 03/30/05
Posts: 52
Loc: L.A
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It amazes me that you would associate "tranny" with HIV,,,I am one of the top transsexual performers in the U.S I am tested every 30 days like any other performer. I also own and operate my own signature sereis where EVERY male and transsexual is tested at A.I.M just like other mainstream companies,,,,,,Belladonna and many other mainstream performers are doing shemale stuff because WHY it sells and its just another venue for dvd sales. Transsexual Porn was the 2nd largest selling speciliaty porn in 2005.
Yes HIV is rapid in Brazil but NOT only with ts and gay performers but straight too,,,,,,Gay Males are 2nd in U.S to African American females yet anytime I hear the word interracial I dont see you screaming AIDS AIDS.
Biggotry has no gender and neither does AIDS
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#113922 - 06/20/06 10:17 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 03/30/05
Posts: 52
Loc: L.A
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Hmmm... this is all giving me too much second thought on every considering a tranny scene. Perhaps its not worth the risk. At all, even with a test. That sucks
Well as long as you arent going to Brazil or some foreign country than why would you not do it? Every tranny including myself I work with or know that works on a regular basis is tested every 30 days just like any male or female performer so are you going to rethink working period?? See the problem is a bunch of biggots who have NO facts spitting out garbage instead of the facts.
Fact is on avn.com and other boards you dont see any horror stories about ts performers coming to U.S and causing a H.I.V scare like you have with certain mainstream male performers? Truth is H.I.V is in numerous cases with MALE< TS< AND FEMALE performers in Brazil SIMPLE
I along with other performers including male and female are tested every 30 days, I dont shoot in Brazil and I dont shoot without my partner having a test so tell me why shooting with a tranny in the U.S would be any different than shooting with a female or male?
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#113923 - 06/20/06 10:32 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 03/30/05
Posts: 52
Loc: L.A
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Guys, I think Smartt makes a good point here.
I think US tranny porn doesn't test (some individuals do, but not tranny porn in general). This means you won't know if there is an HIV+ tranny performing, nor will you know if they're infecting anyone.(quote) 
SWEETIE JRV YOU ARE A LIAR LIAR LIAR and a stupid biggot at that. Every company I as a tranny have worked for has required I be tested. Devils, Evil Angel, Anabolic, etcc EVERY U.S transsexual that works in the industry is required to have a current A.I.M test within 30 days. So please dont speak of such things you know nothing about you are only fueling to ignorance...I as well as Danielle Foxxx, Gia Darling, Allanah Starrr, Vanity, Vicki Rhicter and the list goes on could provide you a history of years worth of A.I.M tests.
Atleast get your facts straight before speaking.
Wendy
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#113924 - 06/20/06 02:09 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 6557
Loc: 2004 - the glory days
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Hey Wendy. Welcome to the board.
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#113927 - 06/20/06 02:55 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 03/12/06
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Truth is H.I.V is in numerous cases with MALE< TS< AND FEMALE performers in Brazil SIMPLE
Wendy...do you know who they are ? Or how many ?
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#113929 - 06/20/06 11:43 PM
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ADT regular
Registered: 06/20/06
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Hello to all,
My name is Joanna Jet and I am a shemale/transsexual/tranny performer, producer and director.
This thread was kindly brought to my attention by a number of my industry peer who knew that I would have a vested interest.
Many of the posts in this thread debate the key question it presents, which is "How did the HIV positive status of a performer remain unchallenged for so many shoots over such a lengthy period?".
Unfortunately, the remainder appear to mostly focus on asserting shemales as being synonymous with HIV.
As a professional and knowledgeable member of the adult industry, I am no different than my male and female peers in wishing to safeguard my sexual health for not only my benefit but also for those with whom I perform on set.
I am therefore always deeply offended by bigoted comments such as "Big surprise.A she male whos HIV positive" which serve only to reinforce a negative stereotype that denies any values I may hold as an individual.
Yes, I am a shemale but I am also a performer who only has unprotected sex when on set and with established and tested performers.
So I now ask you, who is the greater risk and who is the most at risk?
Well the answer is that I am the one most at risk as I cannot vouch for an equivalent integrity from my fellow performers...
If all shemales had HIV, all muslims were terrorists, all blacks were thieves and all mexicans knew their place, then the world would be a far simpler place...
If a shemale can crawl out of the sexual disease gutter then surely a bigot can step out of the trailer park :-)
Yours,
Joanna Jet
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#113930 - 06/21/06 12:10 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
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If all shemales had HIV, all muslims were terrorists, all blacks were thieves and all mexicans knew their place, then the world would be a far simpler place...
If a shemale can crawl out of the sexual disease gutter then surely a bigot can step out of the trailer park :-)
I read your entire post and this is the stupidest shit you included in there. Do you write bumper stickers for a living?
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