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#88706 - 03/04/05 07:06 PM
Tony T Being Blackmailed?
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Registered: 04/19/03
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Story from adultfyi......  Tony T to Anabolic: Let Me Go feels he's being "blackmailed" --Gene Ross Porn Valley- I spoke to an irate Tony T this afternoon. Tony has been directing for Anabolic & Diabolic for about a year. But Tony doesn't want to direct for Anabolic & Diabolic any more. He's got his reasons, he says. But Tony's telling me the only way he's going to be let out of his contract, or told that he's going to be let out of his contract, is if he signs certain statements which Chris the owner over at Anabolic can use in a divorce settlement against his wife Sue. This is what Tony T is claiming. I know. This is starting to sound a little involved. Tony said he even went to AVN with his story but was told that because Anabolic and Diabolic are advertisers, don't expect rich detail to accompany the story. So, basically, Tony's giving me the rich detail with the hope that he gets a fair hearing. This is all he wants. Again, to note, Tony was a bit agitated so I had to calm him down at certain points in the story. But this is what I was able to piece together. "I tried to quit Anabolic a week and a half ago, two weeks ago," says Tony. "They wouldn't let me quit. They promised me they would let me out of my contract. After I quit and turned in all my stuff, it was- yo- here's your stuff, let me move on." The deal according to Tony was only for directing. "That's what I agreed on," he says. "I was going to direct for them three years. They wanted five and I negotiated down to three years. That was the deal we had, but they wanted to put me on a performer contract, too. I said no. I'm only going to sign a director's contract. I'm not going to sign a performer contract. Cool." According to Tony, things were going good. "I made some movies for them. I was honest with them from the start. I signed this a year ago when I was 21. I said the money I'm making, right now, is cool for right now. But two, three, four years from now this money I'm making is not going to be enough and eventually I'll want to move on. I'll want to start my own thing, because, from the start, nobody owns their own product." Tony claims the agreement at the start, was, whenever he wanted to "step," he could step. "All I got to do is finish the projects that I have on my hand, do everything the right way, then from there I come and tell them, yo, I don't want to work over here any more, please let me out of my contract. They gave me their word that they were going to let me out of my contract. Okay?" But Tony is claiming that the last month has witnessed a lot of problems among the directors. "Between me and Wanker [Wang] and Wanker opening his mouth thinking he's running the show." Tony T is saying he thought he and Wanker used to be friends. But Tony T is of the opinion that Wanker has some kind of power agenda. Tony says problems were usually handled at the level where nothing ever went back to the owners. "We always dealt between directors, we always dealt between each other. We didn't need to take anything upstairs if there was minor problems." Tony T is saying his gripes don't include Sal Genova, another director, who, according to Tony T, does his job. But Tony T is saying there was some shit talking going on behind his back and it wasn't Genova. "I wasn't happy about that stuff since the owners weren't doing anything about it," says Tony T. Tony T is also stating that his movies were being fucked with behind his back in editing. "Stuff like that started pissing me off." With that happening, Tony says he went to management, told him he wasn't happy with the way things were being handled and that he was going to step. "They said cool, we're going to let you step. I was, like, cool." Tony T feels he always gave the company value for money and then some. Then, for shits and giggles, Tony took his contract to a lawyer. "I told him to take a look at it. But when the lawyer looked at the contract, he's telling me that they included performing in it. I was, like, yo, we never agreed on performing. He said, no, they included performing in it." According to what else the lawyer told him, Tony could only work for other people as long as Anabolic agreed on it. Tony said to the lawyer that was never a problem in the past. "He said, exactly, they never had a problem with it. But the minute you tell them you want to leave, they can play with you and not let you perform for anyone else." Tony said he tried talking with Chris while turning in his keys and what not. But, according to Tony, he was being put off one day after another, after another. "I'm going, Chris, I got things to do, too. There's stuff I want to do, too, but people are worried that you're going to sue them. You sue people." From what I gathered in the conversation, Tony was told basically to chill: "Go take a vacation for two or three months. And whenever you come back, you're going to work for us. But I'm not going to terminate any contract." This is what Chris is supposedly telling him. "I'm like, yo, this is a totally different story from what you're telling me," Tony T is saying. Tony said he then took his case to Diabolic. "I called the owner of Diabolic because they're two different owners. I was, like, you keep talking about how you're a man of your word, now you're playing games. There's no reason for it." Tony claims he was told not to worry, that the matter was going to be handled. Tony T says he was in the Anabolic office Thursday. "Chris tells me I'm going to let you out of your contract but I still want you to work for me." Tony claims he told him, no way was he going to work for the company. "Your director is talking shit about me so how do you want me to work for you. Please, man, let me out of my contract. There's no need to talk shit and let's leave it like that." Tony said he told Chris, yo, you're the owner so you're responsible for what employees do. "How the hell do you want me to work for people that are talking shit about me? Put myself in your shoes, Chris." Then, according to Tony T, Chris calls Greg. "Then they both tell me- you want to get out of your contract? That's cool. You need to help us so we can help you. I go what do you mean by that?" According to Tony's account, he's being told that there was a paper they wanted Tony to sign stating that Chris' wife, Sue, talked him into leaving. "So we can use it against her in court in their divorcing thing." Tony T is saying he told them, yo, are you out of your mind. "That's your own business," he said in the conversation. "Don't get me involved with it. I don't need to be a part of that. I don't want to have anything to do with it." Tony then claims he was given the one hand washes the other speech that if he wanted out, this was the way it was going to be. Tony is saying that Sue got out of a similar contract six months ago, and that Tony figured, yo, I'm going to get a copy of the same document, maybe save $2,000 which is what Tony claims Sue paid the lawyer. But Tony is claiming Greg and Chris wouldn't sign the document telling him, yeah, what are you going to do about it. Tony is also claiming the word "blackmail" was used in the conversation. "I told them you cannot stop me from making my money. There's no law in any country where you can stop me from making my money. He's, like, you wanna fucking bet?" Tony says he's telling everyone he wants to leave the right way, but they're making things difficult for him. Tony is also claiming that when he took a stand for himself he was told, go ahead, we'll see who's going to survive longer in court. "We're going to see who's got more money." Tony said he would spend the last penny in his pocket to prove principle. "You're not going to stop me from making my money." According to Tony, the situation was left where he wasn't going to be let out of his contract. "But I have to defend myself," Tony says. "I'll put my contract on the net and let everyone see what kind of contract they're offering." Tony's telling me that there's a stipulation in his contract that when you leave the company you cannot work for anyone else for six months. For those six months, Tony claims, you have to be on call and teach or consult for the company at a set hourly rate. "Whenever they need you." Tony said all he's asking is that everyone be fair. "I'm not asking anyone to defend me or take my side." Tony goes on to say- and this is debatable- that he brought back Anabolic on the map. "Look at how many pieces are sold of the movies I did for them. You can see every time, an AVN pick, an editors choice, a spotlight pick. Plus the sales. I was making them so much money." According to Tony, his deal was to make movies with $23,000 budgets. "After ten movies from each company, you start getting a dollar a tape after the eleventh movie. For the first ten movies you don't make anything on them. But you have to wait six months until you start getting your dollar a tape; and the only money you make is whatever is left over from the budget. But you can look at my movies and tell from each scene how much was being spent, everyone's rate. All our scenes are three on one, two on one. The girls charge $1500, $1600. There's agency fees, locations, makeup. Each guy is $600, $700. I've made movies taking money out of my pocket. Balls deep. They cannot say I did anything bad for the company."
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#88707 - 03/04/05 08:47 PM
Re: Tony T Being Blackmailed?
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Sex Slave Trader
Registered: 01/12/05
Posts: 1342
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I can't believe I actually read that whole thing. Who says cocaine isn't beneficial?
Anyway, I have only two thoughts after reading that.
1. Tony T is a tardball of the highest caliber. Seriously, the mental infirmity this guy exudes shines brighter than the sun. He takes his contract to his lawyer after the fact? Here's a tip dipshit, take it to one before you sign it. This may save you some grief next time around.
2. Gene Ross is a horrible writer, even by porn standards.
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#88708 - 03/04/05 09:11 PM
Re: Tony T Being Blackmailed?
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 01/25/05
Posts: 737
Loc: Wisconsin
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I dunno. I like Tony T. No intelligent comment for me as I cant even spell it this late at night. Always 3 sides to every story. Tony's, Anabolics, and the truth. Either which way it sucks.
(Found the spell check button!!!!)
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#88709 - 03/04/05 09:21 PM
Re: Tony T Being Blackmailed?
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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Sounds like Anabolic is just about dead. We could write an obit I suppose, but Anabolic has been in decline for many years and newer porn fans probably don't know Anabolic used to be hot. What's going on over there? Did they get fat & happy &  & lose interest in the business? Tony T might get some help from a lawyer who specializes in CA labor law. There are limits to how far employeement contracts can go (laws from the early 20th century to stamp out the last vestiges of indentured servitude). It seems unlikely - I doubt Tony T fully explained his financial relations with Anabolic - but it's likely Anabolic can't afford a lot of distractions right now, especially if Tony T can be a thorn in Chris's side during a divorce.
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#88710 - 03/04/05 09:46 PM
Re: Tony T Being Blackmailed?
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Sex Slave Trader
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Then, according to Tony T, Chris calls Greg. "Then they both tell me- you want to get out of your contract? That's cool. You need to help us so we can help you. I go what do you mean by that?"
According to Tony's account, he's being told that there was a paper they wanted Tony to sign stating that Chris' wife, Sue, talked him into leaving. "So we can use it against her in court in their divorcing thing."
If this is true, and I stress if, Anabolic just hung themselves.
Edited to add that Tony would have a difficult time proving that this actually occured, so it may just be a moot point.
Edited by Random (03/04/05 09:52 PM)
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#88712 - 03/05/05 08:04 AM
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 04/21/04
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You guys make good points, but did he even read the contract before signing? Christ.
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#88713 - 03/05/05 08:51 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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You guys make good points, but did he even read the contract before signing? Christ.
Did you see the letter he wrote to Roger T Pipe for the review of Balls Deep Number Gazillion? I would put his written linguistic skills on the same level as Nacho Vidal. 
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#88714 - 03/05/05 10:34 AM
Re: Tony T Being Blackmailed?
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 12/02/04
Posts: 483
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Sounds like Anabolic is just about dead. We could write an obit I suppose, but Anabolic has been in decline for many years and newer porn fans probably don't know Anabolic used to be hot.
What's going on over there? Did they get fat & happy & & lose interest in the business?
Ya, and unlike Rob Black they can't blame it on a failed wrestling venture.
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#88715 - 03/05/05 02:16 PM
Re: Tony T Being Blackmailed?
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 05/15/04
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Tony's a young guy, decent enough, doesn't know much. He's learning first hand what happens when you sign contracts. You don't just get to leave when you want and how you want. You can ASK, but they can always say no.
Especially when you are dealing with hardcore biz types involved in personal problems.
Welcome to Hollywood.
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#88717 - 03/05/05 05:08 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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Here's Tony T's rebuttal, posted on ADT.
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First of all, there are a lot people that hate me on this site and I don't why. Nonetheless I am here to clear the air on some things that have been going on between Wanker Wang, Anabolic, Diabolic and myself. AVN.com opted not to put the entire story up and that is why I am here. The reason that I am leaving Anabolic and Diabolic is not only to make more money, but to avoid any further problems with people I do get not along with on a personal level.
Picman wrote on this site,
"He's still primarily a performer, and as far as I know, not exclusive to Anabolic in that capacity. If he's hurting for money, then either he's lazy or other directors just don't want to use him."
Picman couldn't be more wrong! I am not hurting for money and for those who know me personally, lazy is something that I am not! I was and still am making the majority of my money through performing. While I was directing for AVP and DVP, I had no time to do much of anything else besides direct. A director that shoots for them not only has to shoot, but sit through the entire editing process as well as give his input on box covers etc. Given the amount time it takes for each movie to get done versus the money I make per movie, it was not a smart move for me to continue directing for them. I came to this business to make money and that is what I am trying to do.
Now, lets get to Ricky D... he wrote: "His words and actions speak for themselves. If Chico wants, he can detail the truths in this situation from a rational standpoint. I won't say anything because he did not personally attack me on AdultFYI.com or AVN.com. I don't know why this has to be up online, but, there's nothing that can be done at this point other than get someone with sensibility to clear the air."
What are you talking about?! This situation has nothing to do with you, but if you want to get involved you can. The truth is that you and Wanker are just as unhappy there as I was. It was Wanker making plans to leave the company and take a team of people with him. You being his little bitch, followed his footsteps and are now stuck at that company with Wanker. Everybody close to you and Wanker that aren't even involved with AVP and DVP knew that Wanker and Co. were planning to leave and make moves on the side. Now that you decided to stay with him, not only does Wanker look like a bitch whose word means nothing, but you like his puppy who follows him even when he is wrong. And if you have anything else to add, please do so. Keep in mind that this is a "truthful" conversation and bullshit never prevails!
Now, lets get to Mr. Chico Wang, Wanker, Voltron, or whatever you want to call yourself today. You wrote a lot of bullshit and now I will break it down....
Wanker wrote:
"...Also for the record, the guy began shooting about 4 months ago and could've shot two movies a month and landed the residual deal within 6 months if he kept the pace up...,
I was responsible for a huge portion of his income last year, loaned him a shitload of money, babysat a lot of his scenes, created a website for him, got listings on TGPs and affiliates out of my own time and money, my set location was free for him, I listened patiently to his uncontrollable mouth, and he repaid me by doing some seriously devious shit."
Responsible for a huge portion of my income! Name what you did for me or hooked me up with! A couple of gigs that never worked out because you never got off your ass to get it done because you were too busy talking shit about people in the industry from behind your computer. Yeah, thanks for the hook up bro! But lets get this right, you needed me around! All those "free locations" came with free performances in your movies. The facts don't lie, go check the footage from every movie you've put out in the last year! So don't come at me like I owe you anything because I don't owe you shit! And how do come up with 6 months? I had to shoot 10 movies per company before I got a dollar from my product. That's 20 movies not only to shoot, but also get released. I still have movies on the shelf and lets see how long it takes for them to get out. They were done 2 months ago and still haven't come out. So your number of 6 months is more like 16 months! Bullshit aside, lets tell everyone why you attack people on the net....because you want to be their friend! The way you get their attention is by attacking them because before you attack, they had no idea who the fuck you are! After that, you follow with your famous apology "sorry man, I was drunk and just typing some shit". You did it with Jules Jordan when you were trying to get into Evil Angel when they wouldn't consider you. We all know how much you "hated" John Strong from your posts in the past, now you are trying to get an internet deal with him and are all 'buddy, buddy' with the dude! (You are just a two-faced bitch!) Try to call me a liar and I have more "truthful" details to say. You can't hide from the truth because your puppy was right, "words and actions speak for themselves"! I should have listened to Gregg, the owner of Diabolic, when he told me "Tony, watch out for your boy Wanker, he will tell you everything you want to hear and when the time comes to act upon it, he'll leave you high and dry!" I know you and your bitch Ricky remember that conversation!
You say you built me a site. I paid for every scene in the site and when we were supposed to launch a year and half ago, you fucked it up the same way you did Erik Everhard's, Mike John's and Jon Dough's sites. You delayed in hopes to keep everybody at your mercy thinking we will always need your help and the shit backfired in your face. If you think I'm lying, I mentioned these names because they will tell you same thing! Wanker is full of false promises and his word means shit!
And for the record, you didn't help me to get a gig at Anabolic and Diabolic. You taught me how to shoot but you wouldn't even go and just show the owners what I shot for you. You looked at me as a threat instead of a friend who had your back until all of this shit went down! The only person who I owe anything to is Sue, not you Wanker! She is the one who took my footage up to the owners and got me my gig at Anabolic. You even bad-mouthed me to to the owner of Diabolic and he took your word when I first started. That is why my first movie was "Face Fucked #1" for Anabolic Video. After he saw the sales numbers and how great my movie was doing, he came at me with a deal to shoot for Diabolic. He said the reason he waited was because you were bad-mouthing me and telling him not to fuck with me on a business level and just treat me like every other performer who feels they can direct. Now, the owner of Diabolic is on my jock so hard that he sends my movies to his other company Zero Tolerance, and tells them to copy my style! An example of this is what they are going to try and do with Mick Blue. They are trying to jack my camera style in Balls Deep #8 and even had a press release in AVN Magazine last month to act like they invented the style. Let that dude try and imitate my style, but we all know that you can't fuck with "the original"!
As far as people not acknowledging me at Anabolic and Diabolic because of what you told them about me, they all know the truth about you and what you were up to. You sold everyone out to keep your job and now you are GREGG'S BITCH! He and everyone else at AVP and DVP know the truth about you and really just want to slap the shit out of you! That is also why you are trying to create a team of directors out of the only people you have left, Ricky D. and John H. (your 2 Bitches!). And for the record, Hendrickson is an editor who came from Evil Angel because he was trying to get a gig there and they told him "No!". Nobody wants to work with you because nobody has respect for you Wanker! You have no friends and nowhere elseto go and that is why you staying!
Wanker, these are all facts and not hearsay! If you try to say that I am lying, you know that I know a whole lot more about you and I won't hesitate to say it! Good luck BITCH!
Edited by TonyMalice (03/09/05 11:06 AM)
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#88718 - 03/05/05 05:15 PM
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Porn Jesus
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there's absolutely no way that's the same guy that wrote that toddlerspeak threatening rog a few months ago.
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#88721 - 03/06/05 07:08 AM
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 04/21/04
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Sorry, my eyelids are heavy as it is, there is no way in hell I'm reading that rebuttal. I can't believe I made it through the first post. Anyone care to summarize? If not, doesn't matter. I know, I'm VERY lazy. But with ADD and all(  ), it takes painful effort to read something like that unless it's a bit more interesting.  I have a feeling that's the exact same way Tony felt about the contract when he signed it. But some things are imprtant enough to suffer through reading. I do feel for him. He learned a lesson, that many of us learn the hard way. He seems almost innocent. I'm resisting using the s****d word.
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#88722 - 03/06/05 09:15 AM
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Porn Jesus
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there's absolutely no way that's the same guy that wrote that toddlerspeak threatening rog a few months ago.
Two words "Spell Check". The borderline illiterate bastard finally found the spell check button. Now the only thing he needs is someone to invent a "Say With Intelligence" button and he might start to sound like a real human being.
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#88723 - 03/06/05 11:25 AM
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Whoremaster
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theres no way in hell he wrote that
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#88725 - 03/07/05 01:16 PM
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Whoremaster
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porn owners are like message board people there are really only three of them
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#88726 - 03/07/05 01:38 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 02/04/05
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porn owners are like message board people there are really only three of them
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#88727 - 03/07/05 02:05 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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Anabolic and Diabolic are really just one company right? Greg and so forth all work for Chris?
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#88728 - 03/07/05 03:26 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 01/25/04
Posts: 848
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Technically, a contract acn prevent you from making your money if it's in the same industry. Someone needs to tell Tony T that.
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#88729 - 03/07/05 06:59 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
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nah, it's someone else-spell check doesn't insert "hearsay".
i feel bad for the writer, everyone knows tony t is a moron and they've read and laughed at his writing. the guy's gotta insert the capitalized/emphasised words like BITCH to stay in tony t character. he does it every few sentences when he needs to put the breaks on the persuasive stuff. alas, it's a no-win. tony t's maybe a little easier to ghost for than a housecat or mike tyson. everyone knows he writes like an idiot but idiots and things like cats are so dumb they're hard to think like.
about the non-compete---do you really think they're worried about tony t on the open market coming back to haunt them?
the dent he'll make on their dwindling sales wouldn't buy the paper it's written on, but if they've got someone on retainer who's going to throw it in for the half-hour it's worth they might do it. if they've already got the lawyers buzzing around, why not tack it on-but the guy's not a threat to anyone's business interests. he'll be working for ttboy or mugging people in a month.
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#88731 - 03/09/05 07:16 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 08/07/03
Posts: 116
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there's absolutely no way that's the same guy that wrote that toddlerspeak threatening rog a few months ago.
I don't think anyone could argue that point......
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#88736 - 03/10/05 04:13 PM
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