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It's mostly done by blading, or at least starts out that way. When you build up all that scar tissue, it's like kleenex. A few solid punches and it'll open right up.
In the territory days blood was used as a storytelling device. To show that whatever they were trying to get across was "serious".
The Calgary guys all did Portland. Dynamite Kid and The Assassin were both huge players in Owen's promotion. Kid was working out at the same gym I worked out at when they had a show in my town. Intense, juiced up little freak. Great worker, tho.
Yeah, not many people have good things to say about Dynamite. Jacque Rougeau's story about his run ins with Dynamite, is the only interesting thing about Jacque Rougeau. Well he made HonkyTonk Man cry.
I love the real fight/bar fight stories. Bad News Allen mention in part 2, he supposedly a legit tough guy that did the Stampede/Portland area.
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Rick Rude was good. I blame this on Sting. Never really a fan of his. He was protected in WCW, and would have been exposed if he ever ventured out. Now that he supposedly thumping bibles cause the good lord saved him from juice and coke, shows he's an asshole.
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Blading: Caught in the act.
Truth behind blading: I think one that blades is the Masked Superstar/one of the Demolition guys.
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Taker swipes his forehead right before the chair shot. Looks like the blade gets caught in his hair while he is on the ground.
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Lotta juiced up tards in the biddness.
Sid Vicious. 6'10, 315, chiseled from fucking granite, not too bright,
But he was smart enough to know that at that size, he shouldn't come off the ropes for the first time in his career during the main event of a PPV. Lawsuit and insurance pay out ensued.
Warning: The following video is more cringe worthy than the LT hit on Theisman. Heck, its more cringe worthy than 99% of Brandon's womens.
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Lawler don't drink or do drugs, he loves 3 things: drawing cartoons, money and young pussy. According to his cousin, the Honky Tonk Man, Lawler is a pedo. He started shtupping Miss Kitty, when she was a 17 y/o ring rat (groupie) in Memphis. There are other stories before and after her, but he got her a job w/ WWF so he didn't have to pay to fly her around to fuck him.
Lawler short changed so many guys on payouts when he was running Memphis, they took turns shitting in his crown on Lawler's first night in WWF.
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Good educational shows are WWE's Legends Roundtable shows they do for their OnDemand channel. Search around YouTube for them, or some other type of pirate site.
Just found this for the first time. Brody is a legend. Surprised he did an interview out of character. THis musta been done shortly before he got killed.
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Ha! Good ol' Memphis Wrasslin'(or Evansville Wrasslin' as the folk around here called it due it being on one of their TV stations and made weekly stops there).
I actually learned the concept of a ring rat from my grandmother while watching some USWA with here one time. The gave a bit of airtime to introduce a young(then), attractive woman who was the timekeeper at the Evansville shows who happened to be from my hometown. I thought that it was pretty neat that a local girl was on TV. My grandmother, who went to see the matches live, scoffed and said, "Only reason she's there is because she's a girlfriend to all the wrestlers."
Years later I seen here sitting in the crowd at a local indie show and seen Jamie Dundee walk up and give he a huge hug, so maybe there was something to what Grandma said.
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Maybe Gram knew what was up, because she took a bump or 2 in her day?????
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Vader would bully guys in the ring and take liberties when he could get away with it. In real life he turned into a pussy as soon as he got punched in the face. A 1/2 crippled up Paul Orndorff beat him into a crying pile of blubber when Vader tried playing tough guy in the locker room. Some people forget they win all the time in the ring, because the other guy is paid to lose.
That said, Vader spent too much time in Japan to not be tough. They work stiff over there, and they like to watch huge Americans clubber the shit out of each other. Dr. Death Steve Williams, Terry Gordy, Vader, Stan Hansen, Bruiser Brody. Big fucking country boys that can take a beating twice as good as they give em. 6'3, 315, with a chest an axe handle wide was like minimum size. Except for the Funks. They aint that big, but they worked Japan alot in the 70's. Dory Jr was NWA champ, and Terry was funkin nuts.
Stan Hansen Pops Vader's Eye Out.
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Here, I saw this, if you want an education, watch the Legends of Wrestling stuff this guy posted. Click, watch, and keep clicking.
This shit cutting into my porn and wacking, but I can't stop watching.
And as a Post Script, Rule # 1 applies to these guys too. They lie, they have agendas, they know how to work. I choose to believe what I want and what sounds plausible.
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The old NWA stuff (which we never got up here ) was great, as was some of the old WWF stuff etc. Wrestling officially started to suck really bad when WCW got (ahem) 'good'. To say the new WWE/TNA stuff is for faggots is an insult to faggots it's so bad.
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I like Bam Bam. Jersey guy that don't seem to bull shit or take shit.
His thoughts on the Kliq:
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Nobody likes Hogan
I guess its OK, it is THEIR word.
I think the definition of FRIEND is someone that will help you in a time of need.
Pills and wine lead to interesting interviews. Notice how Nash is always working, uses tears as an excuse to cop a feel.
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I don't remember which Legends Roundtable, but I was amazed that Taz and Michael Hayes were smoking cigars and JR was chain smoking cigarettes. Indoors. In Connecticut, I'd wager. How could that be anywhere near legal?
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Ric Rude's dead, I think.
I heard the Bulldogs/ Rougeau story a while back. I can't imagine going to work every day and waiting for 2 psychos, Brits at that, to come in and seriously beat your ass.
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Yeah, he dead. Coke and Juice damage to heart, shortly afte his jump from ECW/WWE to WCW.
They got cigars going in most of those shows.
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Originally Posted By: Jerkules
I like Bam Bam. Jersey guy that don't seem to bull shit or take shit.
His thoughts on the Kliq:
Real sad shit about bam bam dying. apparent just another drug related overdose in 2007. He was burned over %40 of his body saving three kids from a burning house in 2000, son of a bitch was a god damn hero.
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Ha ha ha ha
Paint a helmet and don't think about a guy having to see out of it. Classic Blooper
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Ha ha ha ha
Paint a helmet and don't think about a guy having to see out of it. Classic Blooper
The Shockmaster was non other than Tug Boat. Someone thought it would be funny to ruin the whole gimmick and nail a wooden plank at ankle level. Somebody was doing the voice off stage piped through the PA system.
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see, that's what im talkin' bout. unsophisticated entertainment, not slick bullshit.
lulz...
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Wasn't it Ole Anderson doing the voice, like with the Black Scorpion.
And can anyone find someone telling the story of Dick Slater dunking Sting and the Ultimate Warrior's heads in the toilet? Something about Sting banging Dark Journey, Slater's woman. I've heard a few guys dance around it, but never got the low down.
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Shockmaster was classic. Very much like when they wheeled RoboCop out as Sting's partner. Arn and Tully overselling the fuck out being afraid. Bad. Just bad. Yet hilarious.
Playboy Buddy Rose heel turn. He calls Matt Bourne (the future Doink the Clown) a pussy not once but twice. They had legit heat because Rose was dating Matty's sister. If I recall correctly Bourne was arrested a couple of times for beating Buddy up.
Fuck. I do not know how to embed videos.
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A fantastic Southern angle. Domestic violence, a psuedo- fourth wall break followed by a hanging. All the while Solie keeps his cool while his announce partner stares blankly into the camera. [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9XZ-eEW8Fo [/video]
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Fuck. I do not know how to embed videos.
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Fifth Icon over looks like a Polaroid, click it.
Click on youtube
Paste the url where it tells ya.
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Doug Gilbert pisses his career away while Tommy Rich sweats nearby. A lot of these Tennessee guy were loose cannons to begin with. Throw in the tons of drugs being ingested and you've got tv gold.
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Originally Posted By: Jerkules
Wasn't it Ole Anderson doing the voice, like with the Black Scorpion.
And can anyone find someone telling the story of Dick Slater dunking Sting and the Ultimate Warrior's heads in the toilet? Something about Sting banging Dark Journey, Slater's woman. I've heard a few guys dance around it, but never got the low down.
Thanx for the vid assist.
I've never heard this, but I can see Slater doing this. There's been a tale running around about one of the NWA board members molesting Tommy Rich as a price of giving him the World Title. I've always assumed it was Bob Geigle.
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Dats da way I hered it.
And Virgil got the job of DiBiase's lacky, by walking into Pat Patterson's office and whipping his cock out on the desk. Supposedly the Brooklyn Brawler kept his job as enhancement talent, becuase he was Pat's bitch boy.
I used to like the Hat Guy that always sat first row at wrestling events in Philly. Hat Guy, Hawaiian Shirt Guy, and the long haired Metal Head w/ the shades were always at ECW and usually at Raw or Nitro. One night while Rich was cornering for someone, Hat Guy screamed at him the whole match, "You were the worst NWA champ EVER. How does it feel to be the worst NWA Champ EVER." And on, and on. Only counter to that I ever heard was Ronnie Garvin, but that guy kinda drew the short straw becasue Flair wanted to win the Title at Starcade that year, and they had no one else to flip it to.
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Yes, Ole did the voice of the shockmaster who was played by none other than tugboat.
So funny you mention the ECW crowd regulars. I still have a match on VHS where Tajiri was chucking chairs at Super Crazy in this neat spot where Tajiri would throw a chair full force across a table and Super Crazy would duck at the other end. One of the chairs sailed clear into the crowd and long haired shades dude had to duck it Super Crazy style.
The old NWA stuff (which we never got up here ) was great, as was some of the old WWF stuff etc. Wrestling officially started to suck really bad when WCW got (ahem) 'good'. To say the new WWE/TNA stuff is for faggots is an insult to faggots it's so bad.
I've been watching since I've been about four. Me and the old man used to watch NWA, AWA, and World Class. We tuned into WWF only because we loved Jesse The Body's commentary and because it was so bad it was good.
That being said,it is definitely a terrible time to be a fan. WWE, to me at least, is completely unwatchable. Ever since they went PG, I tuned out. I still watch TNA weekly, but only because I'm a big fan of their lockeroom (for the most part) and it's fun seeing the stupidity of Russo and the ego's of Hogan and Bishoff book that company into oblivion. Every once in a blue moon, you'll get a good match on TNA, which is almost always an X-division match.
Plus, the camaramen PURPOSELY get the best crotch/ass/titties shots of the wrasslin' ladies.
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Dick Slater was about two years, maybe three ahead of me in the same high school. His coach, my teacher. told me he was the meanest, baddest and most uncoachable kid he'd ever dealt with ever. This was early 80's NWA and Championship Wresting from Florida with Gordon Solie.
"Dirty Dick Slater" was an authentic character. I was at the Ft. Homer Hesterly Armory for the epic battles between Jos Leduc and Dusty Rhodes, when Dick Murdoch came back to town and all that old school stuff. When Murdoch called out Dusty Rhodes by his real name as "Virgil Runnels" me and my friends looked him up in the Tampa phonebook and used to call his house all the time and harass his wife or whomever answered his phone.
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White trash drug addicts are a good listen.
click through to youtube to watch the rest
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Originally Posted By: Jerkules
Dats da way I hered it.
And Virgil got the job of DiBiase's lacky, by walking into Pat Patterson's office and whipping his cock out on the desk. Supposedly the Brooklyn Brawler kept his job as enhancement talent, becuase he was Pat's bitch boy.
I used to like the Hat Guy that always sat first row at wrestling events in Philly. Hat Guy, Hawaiian Shirt Guy, and the long haired Metal Head w/ the shades were always at ECW and usually at Raw or Nitro. One night while Rich was cornering for someone, Hat Guy screamed at him the whole match, "You were the worst NWA champ EVER. How does it feel to be the worst NWA Champ EVER." And on, and on. Only counter to that I ever heard was Ronnie Garvin, but that guy kinda drew the short straw becasue Flair wanted to win the Title at Starcade that year, and they had no one else to flip it to.
I remember Patterson's long time SO passing, and it was talked about pretty respectfully on WWE programming. When I read somewhere that Lombardi was his rat, if you will, I was kind of shocked. I mean, Patterson had a boyfriend, after all.
Wildfire was on fire when he won the strap. Yeah, grand scheme- wise, he was no Harley Race. But he was pretty over. I hate transitional champions. I've always been a huge mark for The Belt. At a casino show, my cheap friend and I argued over which $10 Polaroid we'd get: Mick Foley or Raven. I demanded Raven because he carried the NWA belt at the time. Even tho it was from an organization that had been dead for 15 years, it was still the NWA belt. It was the wrong choice. Scotty the Body was a dick.
The heavy metal guy at the ECW Arena was called the Faith No More Guy. I always wondered what the story was with Hat Guy and Hawaiian Shirt Guy. It alwas looked to me like Hawaiian Shirt Guy had a wig and fake mustache.
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Dick Slater was about two years, maybe three ahead of me in the same high school. His coach, my teacher. told me he was the meanest, baddest and most uncoachable kid he'd ever dealt with ever. This was early 80's NWA and Championship Wresting from Florida with Gordon Solie.
"Dirty Dick Slater" was an authentic character. I was at the Ft. Homer Hesterly Armory for the epic battles between Jos Leduc and Dusty Rhodes, when Dick Murdoch came back to town and all that old school stuff. When Murdoch called out Dusty Rhodes by his real name as "Virgil Runnels" me and my friends looked him up in the Tampa phonebook and used to call his house all the time and harass his wife or whomever answered his phone.
Wrestling is good drama.
It's stories for men. Episodic television.
Gary Hart, an Evil Genius according to Solie, called out the Plumber's Son by his real name. That was heady stuff when I was like 11. It was by God serious. Hart was pissed and Kabuki, or whoever he was managing, was gonna fuck Dusty up something fierce. Not sure when I first saw Virgil Riley Runnels was the executive producer of GCW.
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Jaimee Dundee is a fucking fruitloop. Although he's not as bitter as some of them. Why is it the washed up and crazy ones insist on doing shoots shirtless. Billy Jack Haynes does the same thing.
The death of Jaimee Dundee and the birth of JC Ice. Fantastic old school Southern angle.
Those Dundee men were the fashion plates of West Memphis. Jaimee really was a natural talent. He would've been a fantastic manager. Something like DDP in the AWA.
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I can't believe Eddie Gilbert wouldn't have run over Lawler if Eddie Marlin hadn't been giving him the business.
No stuntmen, one take, shot live. And could've easily gone very wrong. King's second impact on the car, his hip hitting the top of the windshield, was not the way that was supposed to go.
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So Playboy Buddy Rose had his golden bleached locks shaved by the New Zealand Sheepherders, I think. So rather than hiding his shame, he took to wearing a mask. With a bleach blonde wig sewn on. It's those little touches that make an angle.
Unlike mask gimmicks of the day, he finally got his pulled off. This was in a time when masked wrestlers may have been de- masked, but you still never saw their face. Very against the grain for that time.
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When Billy Jack Haynes turned heel the Portland audience was horrified. Very realistic speech. I've always thought he was really bitter at the fans during this time because the gym he started failed horribly. Scotty the Body (aka Raven) does color commentary in this.
He was so talented and had so much potential. But at the end he was just a thug and a rat.
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Gary Hart, an Evil Genius according to Solie, called out the Plumber's Son by his real name. That was heady stuff when I was like 11. It was by God serious. Hart was pissed and Kabuki, or whoever he was managing, was gonna fuck Dusty up something fierce. Not sure when I first saw Virgil Riley Runnels was the executive producer of GCW.
If you're going there, it's Virgil Riley Runnels JR, and he also had a car lot down there called "Dusty Rhodes' Dream Cars" though I have no memory of how the sign was punctuated.
"Championship Wrestling from Florida", sanctioned by the NWA and hosted by Gordon Solie was a big part of my life for about three years- it was all real to me dammit. That and Creature Feature with Dr. Paul Bearer. Each on the same level of relevance.
Playboy Gary Hart and two or three other wrestlers crashed a plane into Tampa Bay under my watchful eye trying to accomplish the equivalent of crossing the street from St. Pete to Tampa.
All that wrasslin' was done under Eddie Grahams watchful eye. The best of the best and the shit up North back then was pointless especially including the midatlantic tripe.
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Ok, Mr. Florida wrasslin, what was the deal with Eddie Graham shooting himself? I think it was Billy Jack that blamed it on Dusty, killing the territory by moving on and taking all the talent with him. What say you?
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Brody shoots on Luger. Lex was a rookie, 8 months in the business, when they brought Brody in to put him over in a cage match. Luger, dumb as a rock as he is, had no clue who Brody was and treated him as enhancement talent, telling the 15 year vet how he wanted the match to go. Brody yessed him to death, then went into the cage and did what he wanted. Flexy Lexy got scared and high tailed it out of there.
Luger may have gotten further with the weakest skill set ever. He couldn't work, he couldn't talk, he had no brain for the business. He was juiced up and Sting's friend, no other redeeming qualities. If it wasn't for Paul Roma, he'd be the weakest Horseman ever.
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Originally Posted By: Barry the Pirate
I can't believe Eddie Gilbert wouldn't have run over Lawler if Eddie Marlin hadn't been giving him the business.
No stuntmen, one take, shot live. And could've easily gone very wrong. King's second impact on the car, his hip hitting the top of the windshield, was not the way that was supposed to go.
speaking of cars...
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Ok, Mr. Florida wrasslin, what was the deal with Eddie Graham shooting himself? I think it was Billy Jack that blamed it on Dusty, killing the territory by moving on and taking all the talent with him. What say you?
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Brody shoots on Luger. Lex was a rookie, 8 months in the business, when they brought Brody in to put him over in a cage match. Luger, dumb as a rock as he is, had no clue who Brody was and treated him as enhancement talent, telling the 15 year vet how he wanted the match to go. Brody yessed him to death, then went into the cage and did what he wanted. Flexy Lexy got scared and high tailed it out of there.
Luger may have gotten further with the weakest skill set ever. He couldn't work, he couldn't talk, he had no brain for the business. He was juiced up and Sting's friend, no other redeeming qualities. If it wasn't for Paul Roma, he'd be the weakest Horseman ever.
I think Lex got by on the same, "thank God the wiminz really like me" ticket that Randy Orton gets by on today.
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Ok, Mr. Florida wrasslin, what was the deal with Eddie Graham shooting himself? I think it was Billy Jack that blamed it on Dusty, killing the territory by moving on and taking all the talent with him. What say you?
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Brody shoots on Luger. Lex was a rookie, 8 months in the business, when they brought Brody in to put him over in a cage match. Luger, dumb as a rock as he is, had no clue who Brody was and treated him as enhancement talent, telling the 15 year vet how he wanted the match to go. Brody yessed him to death, then went into the cage and did what he wanted. Flexy Lexy got scared and high tailed it out of there.
Luger may have gotten further with the weakest skill set ever. He couldn't work, he couldn't talk, he had no brain for the business. He was juiced up and Sting's friend, no other redeeming qualities. If it wasn't for Paul Roma, he'd be the weakest Horseman ever.
I've never seen that. At 5:00 when Brody stops selling, Lugar's body language is priceless. He knows something's wrong, but he doesn't know exactly what. At around 7:00, the gravity of the situation is starting to become clear. So Lex bitches to the ref. Priceless. Useless juiced up douchebag. Especially funny that the crowd turned against Lugar and cheered an obviously heel Brody.
Don't no much about Eddie Graham shooting himself. I understand he was really respected in the area, donating big bucks to charities. Probably had depression and hid it well. It happens. Billy Jack blames everything on Dusty.
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