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btw, i'm not busting your guys stones about this. you've both always been open and generous with your opinions/stories about escorts etc. i'm just fuckin around.

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Awesome thread King. Feel free to bust my (kidney) stones anytime. It's late, and my health is making it difficult to sleep. This thread, like XPT in general, is therapeutically distractive. I will just start blurting out random-yet-relevant points:

(1) First, XPT, and the people here who I have come to regard as a group of online peers with whom I can share shit that I normally cant share with my other clicques and social circles, is an ideal place to talk about paying for sex (and, at least in my case, paying for somethings 'extra', like a full weekend of activity and interaction, sometimes even with NO sex. Yes, I have actually paid certain truly unique and special women for the privilege of having them accompany to a function, or just to hang out and talk my ear/hearing aid off for a weekend in Vancouver or Reno or San Jose.) More on that later...

Smart, funny, wise, yet also savvy, humane and even brutal dudes like Willie, Jamesn, Bornyo, Floof, Have2cit, the Agent-UFC Warrior-Club_da_burglar_bodyguard formerly known as CHICO T, Soopergriz and even XPT's owner Jeffrey S. ... and less hardboiled but still randy dudes like Guapo (miss that wigga), Windsock-CAOH...and cool, HOTT, edgy-yet-still feminine and sweet chicks like Ceara, Gia, Holly and (depending on what day it is) Gen....All these people have been willing to cut me slack and accept, even encourage or support, the fact that given my circunstances, as well as my means, personality and priorities in life...paying for companionship in my situation, and sharing my experiences and anecdotes in an appropriate, humorous, self-effacing and non-pervy way, is ok for the board and the XPT community. I am very appreciative of this...

Now, here are some more generalities:

AT this juncture of my life and means, I typically stick with Women who are in the 30 to 40 year old range, and who I have met through a previous escort/call girl. I always have 2 or 3 warmup dates (short non sex encounters involving tea at Barnes and Noble where we both discuss a book we recently read, or something that caught our eye that we'd like to read.) If this seems weird, trust me, it is NOT, and is well worth the time and effort, because it makes the BIG encounter so much better since you are now used to each other, comfortable (hopefully) and, of course, if you are NOT right for each other, you have figured that out BEFORE you are both sitting on the waterbed in a Suite at the Mandarin Oriental (or heck, even the Holiday Inn) and you are half undressed and she tells you she doesnt let you cum on her face or tits....! It also helps me to screen for the most important quality in women I pay to hang with (aside from basic above average "hottness")...intelligence.

Typically, I wil lpay around 500 bucks for this non sex warmup encounter, which, depending on how we are clicking and how she feels about me, and our schedules, lasts for about 90 minutes to 2 hours. Twice, I can recall the attraction and horniness being of such a level and of such IMMEDIATE effect that I plunked 1500 down on top of the warmup fee and headed straight for the nearest Hotel (or in one case, MOTEL, Super 8! Now that was fucking hott and sleazy... a red headed former San Diego State English Professor named "Robin" who insisted on tantalizing me with her 38DD boobs while sitting in Blackies Pub in Newport Beach having a beer, supposedly on a warm up date! She was a total fucking pro, and/or I guess she needed the CASH like NOW, but she was indeed one of the hottest chicks I ever met in this situation or circumstance...she wheeled me out the door, into her BMW 740i and up the Boulevard onto PCH. WHile looking for a place, she said, "I dont exactly need room service or robes, do you?", while massaging my crotch, lol. Hello Super 8 Motel, thank my friggin frosted lucky charms we found it before I splooged in my Yale Genton slacks. During the following 2-1/2 hours of total FUN, I titfucked her twice and had a sloppy blowjob, all for the bargain price of 1500 bucks. I never saw Robin Again, despite sending her 450 bucks of "Stuff" from Bath and Body works as a tip/gift since I didnt have anymore cash in the Super 8 room given our unexpected and impromptu splooge fest. Notice too, that I Did not fuck her, vaginally or Anally. More often than NOT, even with the women I am VERY familiar with and whom a level of trust exists (supported or not by recent blood tests) in respect to STDs, I rarely actually engage in Full intercourse with escorts and professional whores. A few times they have actually ASKED me to do it (or allow them to do it...80% of Burglar's intercourse has the woman on top), but for the most part, my encounters are strictly Oral and manual affairs (again, IF there is SEX at all!)

Other random thoughts and blurbs: The most I ever spent in a stripclub? Honestly, I actually dont know EXACTLY since they involved high levels of intoxication, so I will seperate this into two categories, a Strip Club Excursion (no booze or limited alcohol)...and a stripclub jaunt with Booze flowing into all my orifices except my ass.

(NO BOOZE or limited Booze...except for the lady, she drinks whatever and however much she wants... )

On a number of occasions since 1996, I've blown around 4000 to 4500...if caught going beyond spending that amount and you get into "creepy land" or coming off as dumb, desperate and pathetic. Of course, this 4500 did include a crapload of food on a couple of occasions, as well as tons and tons of booze for most of the girls (I always buy a couple of rounds for the girls if I am having one of my Kick ass Evenings and not drinking myself.) Whores get hungry shaking their booties for cash, and especially if they have been smoking pot and popping xanax, they get the munchies. I always like Strippers who are wired, they have no desire for food. But As Baby Gia will attest, the new generation(s) of Mega-stripclubs (like Treasures, Sapphire and Jaguars in Vegas) come complete with "supposedly" gourmet menus...not that this wasnt available before at many clubs throughout the country, but these days, the whores ENCOURAGE you to buy a steak instead of just drinks! It is actually a part of the marketing focus... But I am not down with this arrangement. I am not going to try and eat a T-bone in front of a couple hot chicks while also trying to oogle other girls and even get some lap dances. MAYBE, and I mean MAYBE, if I meet the right girl and she is hungry too, I might share a meal with her...that would be kinda hott. One time, I had a MILF type stripper who resembled Rayveness spoon feed me my shrimp cocktail at the Crazy Horse Too in Vegas back when they served food like that.

(Timeout Question For Baby Gia: What did you think of the food at the places like Treasures and Sapphire and Jaguars?)

In certain Cities, and certain clubs (like a couple here in the SF Bay Area) I have friends who are Strippers AND also Private Escorts with me (and a handful of other clients...this is the BEST of both worlds!) You meet a HOTT chick in a stripclub, who uses her stripping job to meet and screen potential clients, screening them for a number of things, money and generosity being obvious, but also personality, what the guy is "into" and his general countenance and demeanor. I like this set up too because it allows ME to do exactly the same thing the stripper/escort is doing, getting to know her while also having a good time in a stripclub setting and atmosphere. Personally, I like getting all worked up in a vip booth, and then arranging for the following night a "date". Vegas is great for this type of encounter given its logistics and proximity and general pace and layout. Be advised however, this will cost YOU ... you will have to pay for the stripclub session, and pay well cuz you dont want to seem cheap, but hopefully you make up for it the next night by plowing the whore into the headboard after getting so worked up...you will go off like Peter North in this situation. This is good for your basic, Hott, nasty, porno type sexual release.

Now, once, at the Crazy Horse Too in Vegas, I blew around 8 grand, simply because I was totally obliterated...blackout drunk. I know for a fact that one snaggle toothed Asian Whore helped herself to 1200 bucks out of my Pocket so the final tally must be weighed against that incident. But normally, when I am going to be drinking heavily in a strip club, I am usually accompanied by an "attendant". Some might call him a Bodyguard, but that is not the case...he is not armed nor will he take a bullet for me. He will take a punch however, and give one too. "Jamal" and "Mohammed" my driver are not entirely Fictitious, just obscured for privacy. I might take someone like Chico Travieso and offer him a few bucks and some "Herbal Supplements" to "keep and eye on me" during the evening. This includes making sure a whore doesnt stick her hand in my pocket as I pass out. I really try not to drink anymore in general, especially in stripclubs.

As far as spending on actually encounters with escorts and call girls, it is a WIDE and variegated spectrum of experiences and costs. It all depends on what you want, how long and with whom. For now, to summarize, I have spent as much as 5 grand (plus tip) for a night with a top of the line, Model caliber escort, and in the case of several women who I have seen for a long time (3 years or more), and wherein we have a mutual "friendship/attraction/recognized benefit" within the context of our relationship and this type of intimate encounter, we have a agreement of a fee of 3000 for a night (which of course I enhance with the basic ammenities like Dinner, eithe rme cooking or going out, plus some extra benefits or even the occasional gift (like Jewelry, but this is the EXCEPTION mind you and typically, to avoid creepiness, does not exceed 800 to 1000 in retail value.)

If I am just horny and want a "da burglar version of a quickie", I will go for 2-2/12 hours for 1500 bucks with a couple women who are ideal for that type of encounter. Typically the ones I have ONLY sex with are also the damaged ones, either on drugs (but not trainwrecks YET, they are functional addicts still retaining a certain hottness and appeal x 10!! ) For women I spend the night, or weekend with, it is more than sex I am interetsed in them for...For a weekend (Friday Lunch through Monday Breakfast) I generally pay around 10 grand. However, this is at MOST a once a month occurence, usually every couple of months in frequency....

I have a lot more to say, spill and share. I hope everyone finds this amusing, interesting, informtive and even helpful. I will gladly answer any questions