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have no special knowledge beyond what I was told.

Sorry...now I'm calling "bullshit" on you. You have no clue what you are talking about.

You are correct. I never said I had a clue. My only sources were two video shop owners I chatted with about 18 years ago. That's why I said that I have no special knowledge. If I said I did, that would make me a "bullshitter."

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we're talking late 1980's when porn was still moving from theater screens to home video

Sorry, the "video" revolution started long before that. By 1982 I could easily find porn on the local cable channel, not to mention under my parents' bed. The raincoaters had long since retreated to their own abodes by then.

The local porn movie house in my neighborhood closed its doors for good in 1989 as did most of the "Pussycat" Theatre chain.

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Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Ira Reiner said Friday that his office is not planning to file criminal charges against sex film star Traci Lords, even though she was underage when she made many of her 75 movies and videos.

Reiner, however, said he would press charges against the pornographic film makers who employed Lords, if he could prove that they knew she was not yet 18 when she acted in the sexually explicit productions.

You neglect to mention that Lords' attorney responded (with no refutation from the DA) tha the DA had been speaking off the top of his head. Nor did you mention that the same article pointed out previous calls to the DA in 1984 noting her underage appearance in a magazine, which they never followed up on. And finally, seems Mr. Reiner was incorrect on his 75 films number. IAFD lists 105 titles. It doesn't seem Mr. DA was fully aware of the situation at the time.

True, but that has nothing to do with how the industry may have reacted. Again, as I've said before, my info comes only from two store owners who may be full of shit; but what they said makes sense. With the explosion of porn and available talent, why would a producer/distributor/store take a chance that an out of control DA shuts them down until a court hearing can take place, just to keep peddling Traci Lords flicks?

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Let's get some things straight, bullshitter:

1. TL's birthday is 5-7-68, meaning any scene she shot before 5-7-86 is illegal in the U.S. Of the 105 films listed at IAFD, 15 were produced in 1986. One is confirmed to be legal (Traci I Love You). Of the other 14:
2 are owned by her production co. and were withdrawn from the market. She has acknowledged these publicly;
9 are compilations of previous movies;
1 is almost unknown--P.S. I Love You seems to be add-on footage of the legal vid.

That leaves a miniscule number of "possibly legal" movies, according to your myopic view.

Your facts are based on research. As I said before, mine are based on conversations. I defer to your better sources.

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2. The only company who continued to distribute a TL movie was Caballero, who also produced a good 10% of all her releases. Don't you think they would have explicit detail of her real birthdate, to go out and continue to even release 1 of her movies, and scrap the rest? I seems that if they know others of their scenes were legal, they would have continued to pursue those titles with full impunity.

perhaps, but perhaps not.They would need to peddle the flick through distributors/shops who are willing to accept the producer's word about the legal age question. Remember, these people stock thousands of titles and were always under the microscope by legal authorities. Remember, child porn distribution laws were front page issues at that time. Would you, a video store owner that handles all ratings, risk your livelihood to carry a few adult titles that are sure thing moneymakers? I really doubt it.

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3. You claim all your peeps in PV were shitting their pants over the TL claim. Interesting that only 3 people were ever indicted for child pornography, Jim South and 2 producers of one of her titles. And all the charges were dismissed when TL admitted to the FBI that she had used a forged passport in front of these people.

The fact that the effort had been undertaken, the nature and extent of the investigations were unknown, and the outcomes were also unknown, of course these people were extremely nervous. Do you slow down when you see a cop even though you were only doing the speed limit?

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You claim here just doesn't pass the bullshit test. Too many other people have thought about this issue and concluded differently than you. Or was this majestic message handed to you by the ghost of Jim Morrison flying a UN black helicopter from Area 51?

No, it was as I said originally. I only stated what I heard from unverified comments of just two shop owners.

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...you're the guy who can't even figure out what happened to his favorite porn star, right?



Right. Yes I still count Traci Lords as my favorite porn star and I confess that I have not done the extensive research on the subject that you have done.

Remember that the subject of this thread was favorite porn stars, that I posted two photos of Traci, and that the subject of legality was not raised by me. When the subject was raised I merely continued by reporting only what I knew and never represented anything more than that.

Now, a question for you. If no one got in trouble except the producers, then why would the moderator of this forum remove the photos to be on the safe side (in 2005 after all statutes of limitations had run out, yet)? He just reacted the same way as the distributors and shops did back in the 1980's.

He made exactly my point when he did that.