JoePa and the Penn State Pedo

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sports...-exit.html?_r=1

Penn State Said to Be Planning Paterno’s Exit Amid Scandal

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — Joe Paterno’s tenure as coach of the Penn State football team will soon be over, perhaps within days or weeks, in the wake of a sex-abuse scandal that has implicated university officials, according to two people briefed on conversations among the university’s top officials.

The board of trustees has yet to determine the precise timing of Paterno’s exit, but it is clear that the man who has more victories than any other coach at college football’s top level and who made Penn State a prestigious brand will not survive to coach another season. Discussions about how to manage his departure have begun, according to the two people.

Paterno was to have held a news conference Tuesday but the university canceled it less than an hour before it was scheduled to start.

At age 84 and with 46 seasons as the Penn State head coach behind him, Paterno’s extraordinary run of success — one that produced tens of millions of dollars for the school and two national championships, and that established him as one of the nation’s most revered leaders, will end with a stunning and humiliating final chapter.

Jerry Sandusky, a former defensive coordinator under Paterno, has been charged with sexually abusing eight boys across a 15-year period, and Paterno has been widely criticized for failing to involve the police when he learned of an allegation of one assault of a young boy in 2002.

Additionally, two top university officials — Gary Schultz, the senior vice president for finance and business, and Tim Curley, the athletic director — were charged with perjury and failure to report to authorities what they knew of the allegations, as required by state law.

Since Sandusky’s arrest Saturday, Penn State — notably its president, Graham Spanier, and Paterno — have come under withering criticism for a failure to act adequately after learning, at different points over the years, that Sandusky might have been abusing children. Newspapers have called for their resignations; prosecutors have suggested their inaction led to more children being harmed by Sandusky; and students and faculty at the university have expressed a mix of disgust and confusion, and a hope that much of what prosecutors have charged is not true.

On Monday law enforcement officials said that Paterno had met his legal obligation in alerting his superiors at the university when he learned of the 2002 allegation against Sandusky. But they suggested he might well have failed a moral test for what to do when confronted with such a disturbing allegation involving a child not even in his teens.

Paterno has not been charged in the matter, but his failure to report to authorities what he knew about the 2002 incident, in which Sandusky allegedly sexually assaulted a young boy at Penn State’s football complex, has become a flashpoint, stirring anger among the board members and an outpouring of public criticism about his handling of the matter.

In recent days Paterno has lost the support of many board members, and their conversations illustrate a decisive shift in the power structure at the university. In 2004, for instance, Paterno brushed off a request by the university president that he step down.

Paterno came to Penn State in 1950 as a 23-year-old assistant coach making $3,600 a year. He planned to stay for two seasons, to pay off his student loans from Brown University, where he earned a degree in English literature.

He became the head coach in 1966, and he has been widely credited with helping spearhead the Penn State football program and the rest of the university from a local enterprise into a national brand. Along the way, Beaver Stadium grew to 108,000 seats from 29,000 and Penn State’s endowment grew from virtually nothing to more than $1 billion.

What separated Paterno from many of his coaching peers until this week was that he did this with few questions about how he grew the program. Penn State’s lofty graduation rates and education-first ideals, known as Paterno’s Grand Experiment, became as synonymous with the program as its plain uniforms and dominating defenses.

Paterno led Penn State to national titles in the 1982 and 1986 seasons, and he complemented the on-field success with the reputation of a throwback sideline professor, whose tie, thick glasses and black Nike coaching shoes became as predictable in Northeast autumns as the changing foliage.

Paterno’s reach on campus extended well beyond the football program. He and his wife, Sue, have donated more than $4 million to the university. On campus, everything from an ice cream flavor at the Creamery to a library now bears his name.

“There’s no individual in the entire 120- or 130-year history of the university that has had a greater impact on the institution than Joe Paterno,” Larry Foster, a former trustee and a president of the alumni association, told The New York Times in 2004. “He’s just reached into so many areas.”



that's a shitty way to go out and the whole situation seems a function of him being too old to properly manage anymore.
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"that's a shitty way to go out and the whole situation seems a function of him being too old to properly manage anymore."

Nah, Paterno don't get that excuse. After someone saw they guy blowing a little kid on campus, and the guy was "retired", he would bring little kids to watch the team practice, and he had open access to the campus until last week. If I saw that old guinea walking the street tomorrow, I'd spit in his fucking face.

Whole thing gets even shadier that the arrests are made the week after JoPa breaks the record for career wins. And the current PA gov was the attorney general that lead the investigation. Also, a caller on the show I was listening to said the prosecutor heading up one of the prior investigations has been missing for 7 years.

The night he got caught by a janitor, blowing a kid, the Sandusky guy kept driving past the building, trying to intimidate the guy. Sandusky isn't just a kid toucher, he as a high level sociopath. He didn't just get off fuckin kids, he got off FLAUNTING the fact that he was fucking kids and could get away with it. Scumbag even wrote a book called "Touched."

Oh, and the citizens of Pennsylvania are going to be footing the bill when Penn State gets sued for turning a blind eye.

For what its worth:

When I was an undergrad I was walking from the psych building to the bookstore behind a pack of girls talking about how some professor or grad student/assistant was always flirting with them (I don't know which it was). They weren't exactly being secretive with the conversation and I wasn't trying to listen in on a private conversation since anybody within about a 30 yard radius who didn't have earplugs in heard the same thing as they laughed and joked about it all the way there. I ran into a grad student who was helping in one of my psych classes while eating lunch and very casually mentioned the conversation I had just heard on the walk over.

A couple of days later one of my professors asked to talk to me and told me that he heard about what I had mentioned and asked me to tell him exactly what I had overheard. I told him I didn't think it was a big deal, that they were mostly making jokes about it, didn't seem upset at all, and I wasn't sure who they were referring to. He was concerned when he heard that they were coming out of the psych building at lunch time because it was the summer session and they had several group therapy sessions with local teens and there was a good chance these weren't just students. I told him it seemed like a pretty tame conversation, repeated what I could remember and left it at that.

A few days later I was stopped leaving a class by my professor and told that the dean wanted to see me immediately. I was completely freaked out (having forgotten all about the earlier conversation) and then found out that it was about this same conversation I had overheard. By this time I had forgotten much of the dialogue, but tried to repeat what I could remember as best I could.

A couple of weeks later I got a message on my phone from the campus police telling me that they needed to set up a time to talk to me, but the woman calling didn't say what it was about. Assuming it had to do with one the hundreds of parking tickets I had accumulated, I went to the nearby satellite office with my checkbook and after a blank stare and a few phone calls by the receptionist I was told that I was in the wrong place and I needed to report to their main building. On the way there I was shitting myself wondering what this was all about and, after arriving, was taken to a private office with a couple of campus police and sat around for about an hour until a guy in a suit busted in flashing a badge and handing me his card saying he was city police detective. When I found out it was about some conversation I overheard that I had forgotten all about I was obviously relieved at first, but started to get a bit freaked out again by how overly serious everybody was acting. All I remember is that the detective was sort of a dick and didn't like that I had forgotten just about everything that was said.

I don't know if this all came about because I made a comment about overhearing a conversation or if something inappropriate had coincidentally actually occurred, but after about an hour of questions and promising to make a written statement I finally left. I never wrote the statement and I never heard anything else about it, so I guess I'll never know.

Anyway, I would hate to imagine what would have happened if I had told somebody I had seen a 10 year old kid getting buttfucked in the team locker room instead of just overhearing a couple of loudmouth chicks talking about somebody flirting with them.

Only 2 reasons I can think of for people caring about college sports are gambling and no pro teams close by to attend games.

"This is a tragedy," Paterno said in the statement. "It is one of the great sorrows of my life. With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more."

Listen, maybe I've missed something, but isn't there a little thing called "innocent until proven guilty"?

Don't get me wrong, I'd kill any pedo that came within a mile of me, but JoePa has been an absolute honorable man his whole life. Look at his record, and I don't mean the football record.

If JoePa did something wrong, let that be determined in a court of law, not in the court of whiney Liberals.

Too bad. Penn State has always sucked and they want him out to fit the bracelets on him in private.
Good bye Joe-Pa!

normally this^ poster is a bigoted hate-bot(love the hate btw..the racist stuff is weak) but he does have a point. i'm no penn state fan but my first instinct was to question the geriatrics management skills and then the organization as a whole.

YES.

The whole hindsight and wishing he had done something is straight from him.

Tyler: "but I can't help if some of the "victims" that have come out recently, are looking to win the nigger lottery."

Yes, some of the 12 that have called a hotline in the past couple days may have jumped the band wagon, but at the least, there are 2 cases where people witnessed the abuse. One is enough.

Bob Knight's legacy is the angry guy that threw chairs and choked a kid. Sweeping pedophilia under the rug is a little worse than that. JoePa is tainted, now and for ever. Him and the other ousted Pedo State higher up had the chance to help put his guy away years ago, and they didn't. Now they pay the price.

Bob Knight's legacy is the angry guy that threw chairs and choked a kid. Sweeping pedophilia under the rug is a little worse than that. JoePa is tainted, now and for ever. Him and the other ousted Pedo State higher up had the chance to help put his guy away years ago, and they didn't. Now they pay the price.

I don't disagree with a word you have said, but I also believe in due process. JoePa should be tried in a court of law, not the court of opinion.

I want to know all the details about what happened before I label JoePa guilty, or before I down grade his reputation.

getting fired doesn't entitle you to a court trial. not in the States anyways.

Fuck Stephen A Smith. Fuck that little nigger race baiting fucktard. I could give a rat's ass what this monkey fuck has to say. Start looking at all the harm you have done you fucking spook.

I could give a rat's ass what this monkey fuck has to say.

Is our former poster "NitneLion" now EY Davis? I wonder what he thinks.

I'm not EY Davis. You should know better.

Tyler, Paterno has hired lawyers and a PR firm. You won't be hearing anything from him until after he testifies in civil suits. Dude gonna turtle up.

http://www.freep.com/assets/freep/pdf/C4181508116.PDF

So how did this all happen? And how come there are 15-year old in the university?

Because they know you will never pass a college admissions test.

I/R loving Tri should be happy to know current rumor is that Sandusky had a taste for dark meat. Victims were SUPPOSEDLY all black.

I/R loving Tri should be happy to know current rumor is that Sandusky had a taste for dark meat. Victims were SUPPOSEDLY all black.

They are very good at coverups. How many of you heard about the school shooting there in the late 90's? (My friend shot some people).

Well, in an update:

- Sandusky is convicted and will die in prison

- Penn State's Board commissioned an investigation that showed JoePa had full knowledge of the events and engaged in a cover up w/ the Athletic Director, School President, and Head of Security.

- People are now coming forward claiming Sandusky was molesting them as far back as the 70's. One guy claims that he was introduced to Sandusky by Ed Savitz, Philadelphia's soiled underwear buying, HIV spreading pedo piece of shit. Story goes that Savitz "groomed" the kid, then introduced him to Sandusky and was going to deliver him to the Second Mile Foundation. The kid got in an argument w/ Savitz, resulting in Savitz refusing to bring him. Who knows if it is true. A lot of resources will be spent trying to vet everyone that tried to hop on the gravy train. (note for Stern fans: When the Savitz story broke in the 90's a cabbie called in to the show claiming he was paid a couple times to shit on Ed. The cabbie said the dude had an old person's potty seat in his living room, w/o a bucket in it, and would lay w/ his face under it while the deuce was dropped.)

- Legal "experts" are saying that Penn State would be lucky if all they wind up paying out is $300mill.

- Many are calling for/expecting that the NCAA will give Penn State the "death penalty", killing their athletic programs for a number of years, due to a "lack of institutional control." 5 is the number of years I have heard the most. The talk is to make the penalty so severe that no one attempts this type of cover up again.

- The night when Paterno went out on his lawn, violating a Board induced gag order, to proclaim his innocence, it was completely disingenuous. He had already cut an exit deal w/ the board.

- They have already painted over the Halo above Joe Pa's head in a mural, and are debating removing his statue from the campus.

- Speculation is going on that Second Mile may have been trafficking children, basically being a Pedo Whorehouse. I wonder how many of their donors, and Penn State's, were plied with young boys to elicit fat checks?

did I read some nonsense about a halo being removed from a joe pa painting?.

I guess that question is aimed at nitne and there's a follow up.

why was there a halo in the first place?.

Growing up around the cult of psu football. I have no doubt people would still be worshiping him even and making blind apologies for him even if they found out he held down boys for Sandusky.

Rename his branch of the library, discontinue his ice cream flavor, remove all paterno related plaques from campus, tear down that statue. With explosives.

i dont think any sadness should be felt because that pedo fell down in public.at least sandusky will get to be a pretty prag in prison if he goes.which he should.

That's just it...they'll keep him in a special protective unit in prison...where he will essentially be kept with like individuals.

I think what gets lost here is that child molesting is still a very much in the shadows crime, wherever it's committed. I often think I'm the only person I know that didn't have a gropey relative. My best friend did, my ex did, my sister's husband. People not only don't call them on their acts, but they make sure the assholes are invited to every family function. What the fuck?

My ex's Uncle Hank is the one I actually knew. Fucker groped every every girl in the family when they'd get to be around 8ish. It was no secret, it was discussed openly. It cost one of the cousins his marriage because his wife wanted to press charges against UH for groping their daughter and the cousin wouldn't go along with it. Hank was a super judgemental Christer POS, who didn't approve of me. He once got in my face about some unimportant shit and I told him he should be careful because I'm not a little girl and I'd have no problems ending his shit once and for all. I'm no tough guy by any means, but I figured his nose crushing under my hand would be pretty sweet. Of course, when it got around to her family that I'd backtalked him, I was the bad guy.

When the POS died, the church was full, everyone was weeping, not a word about the girls he'd touched. He was a fucking saint. When his will came out, the list of debts to family members that he loaned money to was staggering.

I really liked the cousin who lost his wife. He seemed to be a real no nonsense guy. But to know that he did nothing...fucking nothing...when this fuck molested his daughter, how do you respect someone after that?

I honestly can't see a scenario of my kid being molested that didn't end with me on the fucker's porch with a ball bat in my hand and pistol tucked in my waistband with an ultimatum to get the fuck out of town within 48 hours.

I know that we can't say what we would do in a certain situation, but the ginger coach walking in on a 60 year old man raping a kid did the wrong fucking thing by staying silent. Silence is the most effective accomplice to these asshole.

I just wish "old west" rules applied when it came to this kind of thing. I'd love to think, "if my kid was molested, I would beat that guy within inches of his life", and while this isn't a "two wrongs don't make a right" thing, attempted murder would do nothing but hurt my family further.

I just wish "old west" rules applied when it came to this kind of thing. I'd love to think, "if my kid was molested, I would beat that guy within inches of his life", and while this isn't a "two wrongs don't make a right" thing, attempted murder would do nothing but hurt my family further.

I would stand up for the molester and beat you up and then your kid.

Geez. What did I do to you?


***Not you Bornyo. It seems our posts came through at the exact same time***

You did nothing to me, but I am just sick of hearing about your kind of judgement. I am all for innocent until proven guilty, so the court has to decided on the matter. As far as all the allegations go, I say that 90% or the kid makes up the allegations.

"Loss of Institutional Control" That gives the NCAA the right to do whatever they deem fit.

As I have heard stated on sports talk radio, they need to come down hard enough to scare other schools into never attempting this type of cover up again. That is what makes it such a heinous violation, THE COVER UP. Add to that the fact that Sandusky was allowed to continue bringing children to the campus and on trips to away games/bowl games, it makes everyone complicit in the crimes.

I'd love to know what Sandusky threatened Joe Pa and the school with to get such a sweet deal. Disclosing past violations? Past cover ups? I guess it will come up when the surviving conspirators go on trial or cut deals. I'm sure that since Joe Pa is dead, they are going to rush to throw him under the bus.

Joe Pa's family is butt hurt? Fuck them. His sons were on the staff, don't tell me they didn't know what was going on.

***Your argument might be more credible if you weren't making it behind an avatar of Al Jolson in blackface.

Just sayin'

“You did the right thing. Now it’s up to me to decide what we want to do,” is how Freeh described Paterno’s response to McQueary, who saw Sandusky raping a boy in the football showers. Also, it was a Friday, and Paterno, being such a great and thoughtful leader, didn’t want to ruin anyone’s weekend.

Remind you of Grandpa Panzer?

Are they going to let the athletes, who want to, transfer without losing a year of their eligibility? That would be the right thing to do.

I am not into any sports or anything but Paterno looked like a nice and caring grandpa who turned a blind eye towards all this child molestationing thing. Covering it up under the rug is a much convenient solution than addressing the allegations and doing all the tedious legwork and research, especially when his buddy Sandusky was on the crosshair.

Paterno was shit scum:



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Remember, Joe kept quite so as not to ruin "anyone's weekend"

Wouldn't it be nice if that was a joke?

Remember, Joe kept quite so as not to ruin "anyone's weekend"

Wouldn't it be nice if that was a joke?


So please tell me all about the Football cult and how you grew up in State College.

@Nitne: I grew up in state college, fuck that guy for making the town clogged with retards every weekend in the fall.

The Cult of Paterno my ass. I hope someone hangs his wife from a tree and burns down his house. Did you graduate from State College High School?

Without those retards coming to town every weekend during the fall, you wouldn't have even had a town. State College would just be a shittier version of Bellefonte.

I saw a quote in the NY Daily News that Paterno's family said the penalties against PSU disparage his legacy. NEWS FLASH: His legacy is shit because of his own inaction, not because of anything the NCAA did. Delusional they are. I figure his narcissist ways pretty much Stokholmed the family, or they are in desperation mode, fearing the laws suits will make momma homeless, and destroy any inheritance.

Football fever. CATCH IT!!!!

And it was announced yesterday. Are you a Gene Ross alt?

Yeah, I later realized it was announced Monday....I just didn't see about it until Tuesday. My mistake.

ps. This might be a stupid question, but who the heck is Gene Ross?