don't buy shit from petsmart

Posted by: big moose

don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 12:18 PM

probably you already know this.

and if you give a shit...

fuck those motherfuckers.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 12:30 PM

I don't think I've ever even seen a Petsmart.


So while I will not shop there, it will have no impact on their bottomline.
Posted by: big moose

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 12:35 PM

you can still bitch at em, though. takes two seconds. they already wrote the letter for you.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 12:40 PM

No problem. Will do.
Posted by: Bornyo

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 01:15 PM

I'm not clicking the link... what did they do wrong?
Posted by: Soopergrizz

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 01:25 PM

Apparently pet breeders use small cages.

Whatever you do don't tell Dick Chibbles, the shock of hearing this so soon after learning that porn whores turn tricks might kill him.

Posted by: have2cit

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 01:31 PM

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I'm not clicking the link... what did they do wrong?




Apparently the people petsmart buy their rats and birds from are in fact indifferent to suffering of rats and birds.

Never let PETA send anything in your name. Those people are terrorists.
Posted by: Dean Wormer

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 01:32 PM

When I saw who made it I stopped watching it. That video is made by PETA. I would be very suspicious of it. Remember PETA doesn't want you to eat most food and will go to any length to get their way.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 01:43 PM

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Remember PETA doesn't want you to eat most food and will go to any length to get their way.





Animal cruelty sucks, but these are the same people who demanded that the guy accused of killing and eating his girlfriend be placed on a vegetarian diet to "keep him from being involved in any senseless killing" while incarcerated.
Posted by: Gigi

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 03:35 PM

i love all of god's creatures. preferably fresh off the grill. [/mr. meaty theme song reference]
Posted by: loopnode

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 04:11 PM

Posted by: big moose

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 07:18 PM

for those who don't want to watch the video because of PETA, here's what you're missing.

* Rabbits were neutered by an employee using a dull razor and Clorox wipes on the animals' fresh incisions. One improperly anesthetized rabbit was seen kicking and struggling during the surgery.
* Live hamsters, rats, and mice were dumped into trash cans, and animals were thrown against the floor in an attempt to kill them.
* Many animals were denied veterinary care, including a baby Goffin's cockatoo named Angel, who wasted away for weeks and eventually died from an undiagnosed illness; ferrets with rectal prolapses; and a guinea pig with a broken hip.


of course, the video is probably fake and staged. whores lie.

i kind of had a feeling you all would be too sophisticated to get hustled by propaganda. can't fault me for trying.

Posted by: Bornyo

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 07:43 PM

That's exactly why I didn't watch it. I don't watch sick shit like people abusing animals- that's disgusting.
Posted by: elaborator

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 07:49 PM

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That's exactly why I didn't watch it. I don't watch sick shit like people abusing animals- that's disgusting.







I agree with you Bornyo...I was dating a chick that was all into those Animal Rescue shows and thought because i just couldn't watch them cuz i didn't want the images in my head that I somehow didn't love animals.

Posted by: big moose

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 07:55 PM

i can appreciate that, but i'd urge you to click the second link and shoot a complaint at them. unless you want to buy into the bullshit and do nothing because agreeing with peta about something makes you uncomfortable.
Posted by: weeeee

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 08:02 PM

I got up to "you can force-breed rabbits," and cried. Fuck you moose.
Posted by: k1ng

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 08:12 PM

Peta wants to take away my abilty to have a dog as a pet. Fuck you Peta.
Posted by: big moose

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 08:31 PM

i was looking at their website, and i don't see anything about taking away your dog. i saw stuff about spaying and neutering, stopping the chaining of dogs, and not selling dogs in pet stores, but no stopping you from having a dog. is this a secret mission that only you and fox news are aware of?

seriously, what do you mean by that?

and what does peta have to do with anything? if i heard about this shit on rush limbaugh, should i just be like "fuck rush limbaugh", and do nothing?
Posted by: zenman

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 08:31 PM

cheeseburgers are delicious.
Posted by: Mind Ltd.

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 08:31 PM

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I got up to "you can force-breed rabbits," and cried. Fuck you moose.




The minions probably would be disappointed.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 08:34 PM

Which minions are those?
Posted by: vanessa

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 08:39 PM

I will never forget the clip I saw of a cat after it had been skinned alive. The cat was still alive, on all four and miauing - just like any cat - except it was raw meat without a fur. Red meat. Head to tail. On sale somewhere on a market in Asia.

I still get sick thinking about it. I wish there was a way to erase that image from my memory. Since that day I try not to look at animal cruelty images whatsoever.

I have two cats. I'll take your word for it and won't buy at petsmart and signed the email.
Posted by: Mind Ltd.

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 08:40 PM

As far as I am aware, Ceara Lynch is an online dominatrix, profiting from the obedience and thus monetary gifts of her clients - or minions.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 08:46 PM

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As far as I am aware, Ceara Lynch is an online dominatrix, profiting from the obedience and thus monetary gifts of her clients - or minions.




I have no idea why they would care at all. They seem just to care about her ignoring them and calling them losers. Otherwise, when they aren't directely involved, they don't seem too interested.


Are you saying they would be disappointed in her crying? Her revulsion at forced breeding? Or, her fucking Big Moose?
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 08:47 PM

Vanessa: I didn't need to read that. That was too disturbing.
Posted by: k1ng

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 08:56 PM

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i was looking at their website, and i don't see anything about taking away your dog. i saw stuff about spaying and neutering, stopping the chaining of dogs, and not selling dogs in pet stores, but no stopping you from having a dog. is this a secret mission that only you and fox news are aware of?

seriously, what do you mean by that?

and what does peta have to do with anything? if i heard about this shit on rush limbaugh, should i just be like "fuck rush limbaugh", and do nothing?




Not selling dogs in pet stores would probably make it pretty difficult to own a dog. And don't be so naive to think that that isn't their ultimate goal. They don't want people to eat meat, own pets or have anything to do with animals except letting them run wild. If they really wanted to help the animals in the video why are they putting pressure on Petsmart to stop selling animals rather than pressuring them to use a more humane pet supplier? To that end, why go after Petsmart at all and not the "Rainbow World Exotics", the ones actually mistreating the animals? Answer, they don't want people keeping pets.

edit - accept is not except
Posted by: Mind Ltd.

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 09:00 PM

It scratches on the aura of uninhibited sovereignty.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 09:05 PM

I think you're right about PETA, King. They are evil. And, their goals are unclear and likely fair-reaching.

Just for giggles... The only pets I ever purchased were tropical fish looooong ago. My cats were free [as was the dog of my youth].
Posted by: vanessa

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 09:07 PM

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Vanessa: I didn't need to read that. That was too disturbing.



I'm sorry.
Posted by: Willie D

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 09:07 PM



I'm reading all this, thinking of the above photo, and humming "Take the Power Back" by Rage Against the Machine all at the same time.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 09:10 PM

I think that kangaroo is angry about the ugly ear-tag from Petsmart.
Posted by: Bornyo

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 09:33 PM

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I think that kangaroo is angry about the ugly ear-tag from Petsmart.




That's a joey, and I guess it was tagged at birth like that thread Loopnode posted.

I understand kangaroos are as big a hazard down under as deer are here.

At least the deer don't box.

On topic: without pet stores goth kids will have nowhere to buy their snakes and whats more- nowhere to buy the "pinkies" and "feeders" their reptiles require.
Posted by: big moose

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 09:38 PM

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Not selling dogs in pet stores would probably make it pretty difficult to own a dog. And don't be so naive to think that that isn't their ultimate goal. They don't want people to eat meat, own pets or have anything to do with animals accept letting them run wild. If they really wanted to help the animals in the video why are they putting pressure on Petsmart to stop selling animals rather than pressuring them to use a more humane pet supplier? To that end, why go after Petsmart at all and not the "Rainbow World Exotics", the ones actually mistreating the animals? Answer, they don't want people keeping pets.




well, i can't speak to their "secret" goals, but did you ever hear of adoption? i doubt they would begrudge you adopting a homeless dog. it's also cheaper and the dog would likely be healthier than one from a puppy mill. going to breeders works, too. (though i think they frown on that, but whatever) and if dogs work like birds do, buying from a breeder is substantially cheaper than buying from a pet store. but i don't know anything about that, so who knows. you're also likely to get much better advice and information from a person who breeds the animal than some seventeen year-old at petsmart. (i once overheard a girl at petsmart advising a woman buying a lovebird that she had to get two, because lovebirds must be kept in pairs or they will die- this is not true)

i would assume they want you to bitch to petsmart and boycott them because no one is going to rainbow world exotics to buy pets. they're going to petsmart, the happy pet place. and petsmart, the happy pet place that loves them pets, doesn't give a shit that the happy pets it sells come from this place. petsmart, and rainbow world exotics are profiting from negligence and unnecessary cruelty.

quit saying "peta!" it doesn't negate anything in that video.
Posted by: big moose

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 09:42 PM

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On topic: without pet stores goth kids will have nowhere to buy their snakes and whats more- nowhere to buy the "pinkies" and "feeders" their reptiles require.




yes. the pet stores aren't going to go out of business, or anything. people still need food and shit for their pets. (unless the nefarious peta has its way, and all animals run free and eventually rule us)
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 09:54 PM

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I understand kangaroos are as big a hazard down under as deer are here.




Deer are a hazard? [the guy living above the Lincoln Tunnel queries ...] Didn't know that. In what way?


I once got attacked by a deer in Yosemite in 1975. It was a young male, and it got irritated after I rubbed the "fur" on its new antlers. It tried to headbutt me over-and-over with it's antlers ... much to my amusement.

It hurt slightly. But, my brother and I found it mostly humorous. We got yelled at by my dad and a park ranger mostly for feeding the deer.

When it came back the next day for more food, we decided to disobey and feed it again. It did not repeat the "attack" ... likely since I did not pet its antlers.
Posted by: Bornyo

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 10:03 PM

Those of us who drive automobiles know what a hazard deer can be. Take a look, city boy. There's a big world out here where they don't sell bagels or four dollar coffee on every corner.

Moose here's a link so you can learn what pinkies are.
Posted by: big moose

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 10:10 PM


thanks, yo. i actually have a colombian boa, and i feed him pinkies. it's much safer, for snakes, than live mice.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 10:13 PM

Wow.

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There's a big world out here where they don't sell bagels or four dollar coffee on every corner.



I don't know where the $4 coffee is. I'm not much of a coffee drinker. I have about 1 cup a day. Sometimes 2.

Just across the corner from me a small coffee is 60 cents, but lately I get my morning coffee from a Mexican's coffee cart on the corner of 42nd & 9th on my way to therapy. It's $1 for a small coffee and a buttered bagel. He's one of the few left who haven't moved up to $1.25 or $1.50.



Be careful of those Ohio deer.
Posted by: Dean Wormer

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 10:27 PM

Remember PETA wants animals to have the right to vote. Also they got that airhead Pamela Anderson to ask the governor of Kentucky to take down the statue of Colonel Sanders.
Posted by: k1ng

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/24/08 10:38 PM

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well, i can't speak to their "secret" goals, but did you ever hear of adoption? i doubt they would begrudge you adopting a homeless dog. it's also cheaper and the dog would likely be healthier than one from a puppy mill. going to breeders works, too. (though i think they frown on that, but whatever) and if dogs work like birds do, buying from a breeder is substantially cheaper than buying from a pet store. but i don't know anything about that, so who knows. you're also likely to get much better advice and information from a person who breeds the animal than some seventeen year-old at petsmart. (i once overheard a girl at petsmart advising a woman buying a lovebird that she had to get two, because lovebirds must be kept in pairs or they will die- this is not true)






Their goals aren't "secret" or daily topics on Fox News and Rush Limbaugh (nice try making this a right/left issue), but you're an idiot if you can't see what they're trying to achieve. So, as you admit, peta doesn't want pet stores selling animals and they "frown" on breeders so, how should I acquire some African cichlids for my fish tank? Fly to Africa and adopt them from Lake Malawi? Once pet stores and breeders are gone am I supposed to wait for my local animal control to nab a wild dog and then hope to "adopt" it? No thanks. If peta is pissed that petsmart's employees are misinformed, fine expose them. If peta believes petsmart's animal supplier is inhumane, fine force them to change suppliers. Don't expect people to join the fight against petsmart to stop selling animals. It's petsmart! What do you want them to sell? Cars? Did people ask Nike to stop selling shoes when people found out they were made in sweat shops? No, they were pressured to change/improve working conditions or find a new manufacturer etc.

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i would assume they want you to bitch to petsmart and boycott them because no one is going to rainbow world exotics to buy pets.




you're misleading everyone again and your assumption is wrong. peta wants petsmart to stop selling animals completely (your second link).

I've owned pets my entire life, dogs, cats, fish, both saltwater and tropical. I've spent more money on my pet's vet bills than my own medical bills. peta is bullshit and if they spent as much time trying to close down/improve animal mills as they did pouring paint on fur coats or closing petsmart I might actually get on board.
Posted by: big moose

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/25/08 12:15 AM

the king, this is your biggest load of shit yet.

you seem be pushing the idea that adopting a pet is somehow like adopting a child, that it takes luck and patience. that it's hard to find an animal that needs a home. this is incorrect. there are so many cats, dogs, birds without homes, it would make your head spin. if pet stores stopped selling pets, you would not have trouble finding one to adopt.

and where can i find these not-so-secret secret plans? if it's not on their site, if it's not part of their mission statement or whatever, how is it not a "secret agenda"? telling me i'm an idiot for not seeing it doesn't actually prove anything. please show me some proof of your claims that their goal is to eradicate pet ownership. because, if that is actually their goal, i wouldn't worry about it. it 'aint happening.

and i believe i mentioned that petsmart can still make plenty of bank selling supplies for animals. i still have to get a camouflage collar for my cat, right? a dog still gotta eat some dog food, no?

and i'm not sure what you're getting at mentioning that you've spent more on health care for your animals than you have for yourself. bully for you. so what? i'm not trying to attack you personally, and even if big bad peta is, this has nothing to do with peta. it seems you'd rather spite peta than give a shit about the animals in the video.

i'm fully aware that they want petsmart to stop selling pets. i don't believe i tried to hide that fact. (if i came across that way, then it was unintentional) i agree with them. selling pets in pet stores, even if they were bred in better conditions, encourages uninformed and impulse buying, and greatly increases the odds that things will turn out bad for the animal and the owner. if you really want a pet, it's not very much trouble to adopt, or find a reputable breeder. (i don't agree with no breeding, period, if that makes you feel better)
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/25/08 12:47 AM

I go to Petco. I got a ferret and my options to by her food is limited. I don't go to Petsmart ever since a store manager snapped at me for trying to pet a rabbit. I have to go to a breeder because the dogs I want are not going to be found at a shelter or a pet store.
Posted by: k1ng

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/25/08 12:47 AM

idiot. so, say for example peta is successful in closing down petsmart. how does that improve the conditions of the animals in the breeding mill that is "Rainbow World Exotics"? nil, which is why attacking petsmart over RWE is fucking stupid.


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please show me some proof of your claims that their goal is to eradicate pet ownership.




right here douche, from their own homepage

Animal Rights Uncompromised:
PETA on 'Pets'

We at PETA very much love the animal companions who share our homes, but we believe that it would have been in the animals' best interests if the institution of "pet keeping"—i.e., breeding animals to be kept and regarded as "pets"—never existed.
Posted by: Sergio T.

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/25/08 12:52 AM

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I will never forget the clip I saw of a cat after it had been skinned alive. The cat was still alive, on all four and miauing - just like any cat - except it was raw meat without a fur. Red meat. Head to tail. On sale somewhere on a market in Asia.



I had completely blocked that until you brought it up. That was an HBO special. It was so disturbing. They had puppies, kittens, cats and dogs in cages and these animals would pick one from the cage and the poor animal was tortured until dead. That cat you mentioned, was dropped into a pot of boiling hot water so the skin would blister. That made removing the fur easier.

Another thing that bothered me was this German Shepard that was hanged. While it was still alive, this asshole used a blow torch to singe the fur off. I hate the Chinese for this.
Posted by: k1ng

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/25/08 01:55 AM

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and i'm not sure what you're getting at mentioning that you've spent more on health care for your animals than you have for yourself. bully for you. so what? i'm not trying to attack you personally, and even if big bad peta is, this has nothing to do with peta. it seems you'd rather spite peta than give a shit about the animals in the video.




I'm "getting at" that I care deeply about my pets and have never attended to my priorities over theirs.

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this has nothing to do with peta.




?????wtf???? You're the one that made this about peta with your original post. It has everything to do about peta.

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it seems you'd rather spite peta than give a shit about the animals in the video.




really? peta wants to shut down petsmart. I'd rather focus attention on the animal mill that is the cause of the mistreatment.

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selling pets in pet stores, even if they were bred in better conditions, encourages uninformed and impulse buying, and greatly increases the odds that things will turn out bad for the animal and the owner.




so, who decides whether the buyer is "uninformed" or not? how do you tell if it's an "impulse" buy or not? who is the overlord that decides if you're deserving of a pet or not?
Posted by: k1ng

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/25/08 02:01 AM

stick with the windsock impersonation, it's your only chance at relevance
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/25/08 02:08 AM

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I was dating a chick...






That's a good one.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/25/08 05:26 AM

I can get on-board against Petsmart without mixing in the fact that it is PETA's project and their motives aren't pure. I joined with O'Reilly against the Red Cross and their abuses though I hate O'Reilly. I hate Bush, but I stand against Iran with him.

To me, PETA's real "goal" is publicity and notoriety for its leaders. I don't think they give a shit about the animals unless it can grandstand some act which gains the eyes of the media. They remind me of the "Act Up" group who tried to shut down the Port Authority to protest AIDS issues in the 80s.

Personally, I stay away from impersonal large corporate entities in general - my preference for local independent pharmacists, for example. I believe that the day the owner isn't active and present in the business is the end of the business as a beneficial entity to society. The mistreatment of the animals is just a symptom of that to me. That is my prejudice.

And, I will fight for K1ng's right to own tropical fish!

Posted by: Pornado

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/25/08 06:11 AM

you can get dogs and cats thru petsmart. they bring in spca and humane society animals to adopt. the only reason peta is targeting them is that they cannot whore enough media attention from the actual pet mill.
Posted by: the unknown pervert

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/25/08 07:22 AM

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Those of us who drive automobiles know what a hazard deer can be. Take a look, city boy. There's a big world out here where they don't sell bagels or four dollar coffee on every corner.






Hitting one on a motorcycle can also cause some problems.
Posted by: big moose

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/25/08 07:30 AM

there's no sense in continuing this argument. king, i usually enjoy arguing with you and learning about all the conspiracies against giant corporations, but this subject is actually upsetting me and keeping me from sleeping, which is stupid. most of your arguments are ludicrous, (i especially enjoy the one about how you care more about your animals needs than your own, but you refuse to say anything about the animals in the video, because peta are jerks ) but i'm not going to win over many people on here, anyway, since most of you prefer to trash-talk an organization that you don't care for than to send an e-mail in support of some mistreated animals. really excellent judgement.
Posted by: Jeff Steward

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/25/08 09:07 AM

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That's exactly why I didn't watch it. I don't watch sick shit like people abusing animals- that's disgusting.




Then I guess you should stay clear of all of my JM videos.
Posted by: Soopergrizz

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/25/08 09:35 AM

The Animal Liberation Front endorses fire-bombing butcher shops.

PETA-allied activists do stupid shit like open the gates on mink farm cages allowing them to escape and get torn to pieces by raccoons and run over by cars.

Posted by: the unknown pervert

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/25/08 03:07 PM

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The Animal Liberation Front endorses fire-bombing butcher shops.







Courtesy of the ALF forum.
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Germany: ACTIONS AGAINST HUNTING

reported by activists in Germany:

"In Baden-Württemberg, the following actions were taken for animal rights:

1) 7 dwarf rabbits kept in small cages as children's toys were freed and are now in good hands.

2) A hunting tower used by duck hunters was destroyed and has not been rebuilt, which again shows that by destroying hunting facilities animals can be kept safe from the guns of hunters.

3) Various feeders for deer and wild pigs were destroyed and the feed collected so that no more animals would be lured before the hunting towers.

More actions for animals will follow; we look forward to 2008 as a year full of actions for animal liberation!
ALF-BW "




I'd like to see these fuckwads try this in Alabama or Texas. They'd end up with more bullet holes in them than Bonnie & Clyde's getaway car. Let's get one thing straight you pricks (the ALF) are not activists. At the very least you are criminal thugs and a valid argument could be made that you are terrorists. I would piss on all your graves for a buffalo wing.
Posted by: NitneLiun

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/25/08 05:31 PM

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I will never forget the clip I saw of a cat after it had been skinned alive. The cat was still alive, on all four and miauing - just like any cat - except it was raw meat without a fur. Red meat. Head to tail. On sale somewhere on a market in Asia.




Shit like that happens every day in Asia. The Chinese and Koreans are especially cruel toward animals. You wouldn't believe some of the things I saw in Korea.
Posted by: Gigi

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/25/08 06:21 PM

it was always "said" in my hometown that one of the chinese restaurants would pay for stray cats, which they supposedly would cook and serve. i always assumed it was bullshit, but they were eventually closed for 'health reasons.'

Posted by: SnakeBabe

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/26/08 08:52 PM

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thanks, yo. i actually have a colombian boa, and i feed him pinkies. it's much safer, for snakes, than live mice.



FYI a boa wont be on pinkies for long so please keep in mind you never have to feed live food to your snake

Hugs and Hissessss,
Maria
Posted by: Gigi

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/27/08 07:38 AM

wtf is a pinkie?
Posted by: Bornyo

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/27/08 07:54 AM

Pinkies are very, very late term rat/mouse abortions. Called pinkies because they are still hairless. It's fucking horrible but supposedly civilized people actually produce these things as a commodity to indulge their sickness of keeping snakes as pets.
Posted by: SnakeBabe

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/27/08 10:39 AM

Aborted? Where did you get that? All feeder rats should be euthanized with CO2 prior to feeding.
Pinkies are newborn rats or mice. Usually only a few days old.
Since they are defenseless they can not harm a pet snake with teeth. As snakes grow they require larger food. Some people still feed live rats to snakes which can cause injury. My comment was to advise to feed only euthanized food to his snakes when it gets larger and requires larger food.

Hugs and Hissessss,
Maria
Posted by: freestylah

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/27/08 12:32 PM

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...All feeder rats should be euthanized with CO2 prior to feeding.....Pinkies are newborn rats or mice. Usually only a few days old. Since they are defenseless they can not harm a pet snake with teeth..... My comment was to advise to feed only euthanized food to his snakes............




Well, well, Maria. Where shall I start?

Slaughtering newborn rats and mice with CO2 to feed a snake.
How do you condone this? By calling it 'euthanasia'? By stating that they are 'only a few days old'?

They don't have teeth, so they can't harm the snake.
How does this compare to real wild life?

What is your stand on euthanasia when it comes to human beings? Maybe you could 'euthanize' some stray cats, dogs and other animals to feed your snake?

Last question: do you engage in sexual acts with snakes? If so, pics please! Thank you.

Posted by: SnakeBabe

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/27/08 01:20 PM

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Well, well, Maria. Where shall I start?
Slaughtering newborn rats and mice with CO2 to feed a snake.
How do you condone this? …




Not sure where you’re going with this but living snakes need to eat and if I am able to step in and eliminate needless suffering on the prey then I do. From your question I am not sure if you consider this a problem.

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They don't have teeth, so they can't harm the snake.
How does this compare to real wild life? …




Many snakes will get bitten and die from injury in nature. While a snake is in my possession it is my responsibility to eliminate that risk.

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… What is your stand on euthanasia when it comes to human beings? …




I don’t know how I stand on human view of that. I know that I want a “do not resuscitate” order on me if I become that ill but I have no idea how others should feel, it’s their life.

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… Maybe you could 'euthanize' some stray cats, dogs and other animals to feed your snake?



Stray cats and dogs are not the natural food for snakes. What saddens me is that there are over 8 million dogs and cats a year euthanized because of human irresponsibility. That is the crime.

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Last question: do you engage in sexual acts with snakes? If so, pics please! Thank you.



Nope.

Hugs and Hissessss,
Maria
Posted by: Bornyo

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/27/08 03:21 PM

Late term abortion/smothered after birth. What's the difference?

The point is you are killing mammals to feed reptiles.
Posted by: Jigaloo

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/27/08 03:35 PM

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it was always "said" in my hometown that one of the chinese restaurants would pay for stray cats, which they supposedly would cook and serve. i always assumed it was bullshit, but they were eventually closed for 'health reasons.'




You just described every chinese restaurant in existence.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/27/08 03:58 PM

I find both snakes and rats to be undesirable animals. I'd rather not share my living space with either.
Posted by: Gigi

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/27/08 04:27 PM

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it was always "said" in my hometown that one of the chinese restaurants would pay for stray cats, which they supposedly would cook and serve. i always assumed it was bullshit, but they were eventually closed for 'health reasons.'




You just described every chinese restaurant in existence.


don't say that, 'cause i'd give my left tit for an eggroll right about now. even one made with cat.
Posted by: Mind Ltd.

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/27/08 04:35 PM

Just try raw feed.

Posted by: SnakeBabe

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/27/08 07:01 PM

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Late term abortion/smothered after birth. What's the difference?

The point is you are killing mammals to feed reptiles.



We kill mammals to feed humans too.

They are not smothered or aborted. There is a difference.
I feed my pets. I am doing it in the most pain free and healthy way I know of. I guess I am just not getting your point.
Hugs and Hissessss,
Maria
Posted by: Bornyo

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/27/08 08:41 PM

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We kill mammals to feed humans too.




So humans = reptiles in your world?

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They are not smothered or aborted. There is a difference.
I feed my pets. I am doing it in the most pain free and healthy way I know of. I guess I am just not getting your point.
Hugs and Hissessss,
Maria




So explain to me how this death by CO2 thing works, if it isn't suffocation? I bet it's peaceful for the pinkies, struggling gently for breath with lungs ablaze until they finally expire. At which point they can be harvested and safely fed to captive reptiles.

Posted by: vanessa

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/27/08 08:41 PM

As you know, the majority of people don't get warm and fuzzy feelings for snakes and therefore don't support feeding snakes either. I for once grew up in a place where a snake bite could mean death, so snakes never made it into my list of friendly creatures. They're cold and cruel. I don't understand how anyone can keep them as pets. The same with insects... (shudder)
Posted by: Soopergrizz

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/27/08 11:04 PM

Frankly, while no friend of snakes I TOTALLY hate rats, so if there was some way of setting up mutually assured destruction, I would be completely down with that.
Posted by: freestylah

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/28/08 05:28 AM

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Frankly, while no friend of snakes I TOTALLY hate rats, so if there was some way of setting up mutually assured destruction, I would be completely down with that.




Good idea! Let's feed the rats healthy amounts of poison (arsenic, Prussic acid). Then, after they have died (we don't want to hurt the snake!), we feed them to the snakes. The residue in the rats will be enough to kill a snake!
Posted by: SnakeBabe

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/28/08 11:26 AM

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So explain to me how this death by CO2 thing works, if it isn't suffocation? I bet it's peaceful for the pinkies, struggling gently for breath with lungs ablaze until they finally expire. At which point they can be harvested and safely fed to captive reptiles.




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So humans = reptiles in your world?




No they don’t.

As for using CO2 according to the American Veterinary Medical Association's Panel on Euthanasia (Journal of the AVMA, Vol. 202, No. 2, Jan. 15, 1993), the most humane way to kill rats (and mice) that will be fed to other animals is with carbon dioxide gas.
If you do a bit of research on it I think you may find the answer you’re looking for.

I am not really sure of your questioning. Do you have issues with the natural food chain or with the idea of me eliminating needless suffering of a prey animal?

Hugs and Hissessss,
Maria
Posted by: SnakeBabe

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/28/08 11:28 AM

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As you know, the majority of people don't get warm and fuzzy feelings for snakes and therefore don't support feeding snakes either. I for once grew up in a place where a snake bite could mean death, so snakes never made it into my list of friendly creatures. They're cold and cruel. I don't understand how anyone can keep them as pets. The same with insects... (shudder)





I hear that from a lot of people but hey, different strokes…

Hugs and Hissessss,
Maria
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/28/08 12:58 PM

It seems that many people adopting these complex reptiles aren't really prepared to take care of them. Here's a list of incidents from just Florida alone:

January 11, 2008 / Key Largo, FL: A 10-foot-long Burmese python was discovered dead on U.S. 1; the snake was the seventh python found in the Florida Keys in the past nine months. (The Key West Citizen)

December 7, 2007 / Vero Beach, FL: A man mowing grass on the banks of a canal west of Vero Beach accidentally ran over and killed a 16-foot python. Vero Beach's Animal Control Officer told a local newspaper that the snake was the 20th large python or boa constrictor found in Indian River County in the past 10 years. (Vero Beach Press Journal)

November 24, 2007 / Christmas, FL: A landlord found a Nile monitor lizard in a cage at an abandoned mobile home. (WKMG Ch. 6, Orlando)

October 27, 2007 / Port St. Lucie, FL: A man was hospitalized after one of his pet snakes, a diamonback rattlesnake, bit him on the hand. Word of the bite panicked other residents at the Port St. Lucie condominium complex. One resident told local media about a previous incident in which a cobra had escaped from the man's condo. (Palm Beach Post, WPTV Ch. 5)

October 25, 2007 / Summerland Key, FL: A fourteen-foot python was discovered in the bushes in a parking lot in the Florida Keys. The snake was later claimed by a man who uses the snake to sell photos to tourists in Key West. The man explained that the python had been on the loose for two days; he was cited for allowing the escape of captive wildlife. (FWC Field Operations Weekly Reports)

October 24, 2007 / Tallahassee, FL: Four venomous snakes, including a King Cobra, were discovered in an abandoned storage unit. The animals were in poor health and may not have had food or water for weeks. (Central Florida News Ch. 13)
Posted by: Gigi

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/28/08 01:29 PM

:shudders:
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/28/08 01:42 PM

Don't you want a pet water snake?
Posted by: SnakeBabe

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/28/08 03:44 PM

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It seems that many people adopting these complex reptiles aren't really prepared to take care of them. ...



Sadly true. I get email every week from people wanting to dump their reptiles.

Hugs and Hissessss,
Maria
Posted by: vanessa

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/28/08 04:59 PM



No more hisssessss, ...please.

Posted by: big moose

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/28/08 09:13 PM

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Sadly true. I get email every week from people wanting to dump their reptiles.




that's how i got antonio, and all the birds.
Posted by: k1ng

Re: don't buy shit from petsmart - 01/28/08 09:26 PM

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is it just me or is the boxing guy punching faster than before?