The Enduring Lisa Ann

Why so top-rated?

Because she's so fucking hot.

Are you being serious here, float-thug?

She can fake it and so on, but time's rather merciless already.

I think the big tits and ass and dirty demeanor go a long way, but I am not sure it would get anyone to a #2 ranking.

Very serious. The sun doesn't rise and set on 18 year olds. I'm not sure what the ranking is for, but she's a hot cunt.

I hear ya, diff'rent strokes and all, but I still don't understand how Lisa Ann has so much appeal. I figure it is relentless marketing, via social media and PR hacks.

Not for me. The only PR stuff i get is stuff from here. It was Oil Overload 2 with Julia Ann. And neither even take it in the keister, for a change. On the other hand Julia Ann is really sexy until the sex staarts, then she does nothing for me.

I think it has to do with the corruption at tube sites. Certain lines and stars just get a shit-ton of uploads on the popular tube sites. I really think the average porn consumer goes to one of the top rated tubes and just watches whatever is newest or has the most views. They're not exposed to newbies and unsung starlets. I assume PR and marketing contribute, but I think a lot of it is like... why do people eat Taco Bell- because it's familiar and always there. Oh it must be good cause everybody eats it.

Lisa Ann did a radio interview in Philly to promote her stripping appearance in a NJ strip club about 18 months ago. In the interview she basically said she loves tube sites because it free promotion for her work outside porn videos and she was quick to clarify she would probably feel very different if she was producing her own content.

she did a parody of Sarah Palin. People Know who she is and what she does. The dime bag a dozen other "starlets" which stroke your collective pedo libido around here don't have that type of "Q". So don't click her links and continue to fantasized about sex with underage girls.

She's been producing her own content for JJV since August. I wonder how she feels now?

Well, the more milfs in the upper reaches of porn, the better, I say.

I like some of the "weathered" whores as much as the next guy, but this one is a complete pig. Listened to her for about 5 minutes on Stern a while back. The only thing I could think of was wishing she Hunter Bryce'd herself. The whore is vile

It comes down to personal opinion with any female. But as far as Lisa Ann goes... I love her! She is gorgeous and looks fantastic for her age. She is a smart lady and knows how to market herself. Also for anyone who appreciates porn (as anyone here must) than you should appreciate what she has done for the business. She has been super successful and makes porn look almost glamorous. Lots of girls getting into porn look up to her and envy what she has accomplished. Making bank as a featured dancer takes more than doing a few movies. So we get to appreciate tons of young girls entering the business hoping to emulate her career. If for nothing else you should at least appreciate her for that.
My only criticism of her (and it is a small one) is I have never seen her cum that I was certain was genuine. Granted, any girl can fake an orgasm. But some girls at least are convincing that they are getting off. Gen Padova who frequently posts here was an open book. Lisa Ann never seems like she cums EVER on camera. Although when taking on Mandingo and/or Lexington Steele-- she does appear to really enjoy the size. Though, if she had an orgasm... I didn't see it. That being said.. she does look like she is having fun. So I'll take that. Although in the MILF realms a favorite of mine is Veronica Avluv. That woman flat loves sex. There is absolutely no doubt of that!

Anyway, I hope Lisa Ann is around doing her thing for a long time. Count me as a big fan.

Gen Padova posts here?

Discovered Veronica Avluv a month or so ago. Good whore.

What the fuck has she actually accomplished? She fucks niggers for Christ Sakes. Save your admiration for a whore who was never desperate or pathetic enough to have fallen down the IR hole. Any new whore into the business who looks up to this cunt is going to have a shit fuck time. Look up to Jenna or Tera if you want glam porn done right. If you want to be another AIDs infected cum bucket, then yeah, follow the tranny people call Lisa Ann

Tera was married to the douche from Biohazard. There are things worse than fucking niggerthugrapists. And Jenna...well, that beast speaks for itself.

What is there to admire? Money. She has made a very lucrative career. She also loves what she does. Just because YOU have a unrealistic prejudice against IR doesn't mean she isn't successful. Every girl who gets into the business aspires to what she has done.
Who doesn't love fucking? But to be paid for it is another matter altogether. Hundreds, if not thousand of girls enter porn each year. The majority are out in 6 months or less. Any girl longer than that struggles to make enough money to pay rent once the "newness" is over. So if nothing else credit her longevity. Plus the fact she makes a good living doing exactly what she loves doing. Also, she works primarily for herself. Money and freedom is pretty impressive in any line of work. So Lisa Ann deserves some credit for that.

Someone needs to smack that uppity cunt Lisa Ann upside the head (backhanded, preferably) and tell her that her dumbass character in Larry Flynt's movie is long since become passe, and to stop cutting her hair like the real douchebag from AK. Even Sarah Palin thinks Sarah Palin is dull and boring now.

Self respect maybe. No little girl grows up wishing to be a whore.



Says who? If she had a great career, she wouldn't still be churning out scenes trying to pay the bills



Again, says who? Here's a free tip; whores lie. Given the choice of being Lisa Ann, nagger fucking whore, or Scarlett Johansson, she'd pick the latter. But she didn't have a choice in the matter, because all she ever grew up to be is a nagger fucking whore




It's not my prejudice, it's the industries. The top whores never fucked niggers. They didn't need to because they earned top dollar staying away from that garbage.



Are you fucking kidding me!?!?!? You really think every girl gets in hoping that in 20 years they are so washed out, and so broke that they have to fuck niggers to pay the rent? Give your fucking head a shake. Every girl is hoping to be Jenna or Jesse. Work as little as possible, make tons of money, and only work when and with whomever you want. No whore gets into the biz hoping their value is so low, that IR is their only chance at paying rent



There, fixed it for you

Fair point on the douche bags they married, but disagree on it being worse than niggers.

Over Lord, for a guy with only eight posts you seem to be a good fit for XPT. Please stick around.

Overlord writes:


How much you wanna bet Scarlet Johansson has had sex with a black man? How would you feel about that Overlord?

Nobody cares who Scarlet Johansson fucked. Nobody would care if she fucked a black. Or a brown or a yellow or a red, etc. You care because you're fixated on pretending you're straight.

Fixed it. You're welcome, cocksucker.

I'll bet you can't even find a photo of her on a date with a black man, much less banging one.

You can start here, unless you're too lazy

The point is, even if Scarlett liked black guys, she's still not going to date you, Tritone.

He doesn't want to date her. He wants to jack-it to the thought of a white man reacting to her banging a black man. Totally different head, totally.

Most white guys wouldn't care. Why can't you just jack off like a normal person?

So... he is jerking off to a white guy jerking off to black guy railing a white girl. Yeah, that is kind of gay.

I never understood the fixation with the guy doing the fucking so many guys have while watching porn, I thought when you are watching porn as a straight dude, the only thing you are paying attention to is the girl; not the tool.

No. I'm not doing that. That's just some fiction the harassers around here have cooked up lately. They try anything to remove my manhood and make me "gay" because deep down inside they fear true, black male masculinity.

No -- I jerk off to hot women and straight porn.



The *specific* guy doesn't matter. But if you're white-- you might not understand why seeing someone who looks like you fuck the porn starlets is appealing. Porn is taliored for white men. Most of the actors are white men. So you're used to seeing white guys get all the action. You wouldn't know what it was like NOT see a white guy banging the hot porn stars.

Try..just for a moment..to imagine if in 90% of the scenes it was a black guy doing the fucking. You honestly wouldn't care? You really can't answer because you haven't experienced that reality.

Well let me just say...it matters to many black men. Sure, we can still enjoy porn with all white actors. That's all we've had. It's what we jerked off to growing up. But when you have a black guy fucking that hot big-titty porn star. THAT is what really sets you off. Cause you can more easily slip yourself into that fantasy.

Understand now?

Hey..that's fine. I'm might not be her type. MY point is -- dating or having sex with black men does not reduce the value of ANYONE. PERIOD.

Plenty of high performing, decent black men out there. I consider myself one of them.

But in porn, why do some porn girls doing IR get derision from fans, yet some don't? Sasha Grey did plenty of IR and early in her career. It didn't affect her fame.

Maybe not in your mind, but in reality it does. That's how it will be for the next two generations, at which time the Oreo spawn of mudsharks will be so deep in the U.S. treasuries pocket that this country gets flushed down the toilet. Caucasians will migrate to Central and South America

That's cause like most of the women in the industry, the vast majority of actors are white males.

No, I wouldn't because I am watching the scene for the girl, doesn't matter who she is paired with because I am picturing myself.

I am not white, so white or black doesn't matter too me. As long as the broads tits aren't wonky I am good.

We understand that line of argument for the average straight black man. You however, have demonstrated countless times on here that this is not your situation. You get off on shoving it to the man, both figuratively and literally. You're only lying to yourself, cocksucker.

Ms. Grey probably didn't get any flack for it because she treated it like it was a normal, regular ole scene perhaps?

He probably feels insufficiently black, and feels that to be a true black man, he has to be overly militant to compensate for growing up in the suburbs.

That's because they are the ones paying for it. Even the DogFart people will tell you that. Ain't no money coming in from brothers. Not enough to matter.

Didn't Fleshbot do a survey where it showed that most IR porn purchasers are white men from the South?

I have a theory on this.

The ones who get the most flack for doing IR are ones that the racist white porn fans consider more "attainable".

I'm talking the pretty / slightly pretty / above average porn girls. Not the total knock-out, porn super-star, "she's so hot it doesn't matter"-type.

When they see the girl-next-door / blue-collar / white-trash princess types doing porn, they can fantasize about getting to fuck this girl they knew from the neighborhood, from school, at church, etc.

She was the hot "slut" that they never got a chance to bed.

Not so for : Sasha Grey, Phoenix Marie, Super-hot euro sluts, Lisa Ann, Julia Ann, Remy Lacrioux, Gianna, etc. These women are so hot and deliver so much sexual heat that it makes them almost surreal. They are detached from reality. Not real people. Not attainable. Not date-able. They only exist in video-land as paragons of super-sluttiness. These same racists are able to enjoy their work and give them a pass on IR because in their eyes they're not even people. They are these mythic "uber whores".

No. It's the somewhat-pretty, slightly above-average girls that do it for them. I'm talking Taylor Rain, Sarah Stone, Brandy Talore, Tera Patrick, Jeanna Jameson, Vanessa Lane, Rikki Raxx, Christy Mack, etc.

Part of keeping these girls desirable is for them to maintain a certain of level of "purity" in the racists eyes. No sex with black men seems to be a key rule to follow. If one of these formerly coveted "attainable" starlets goes to IR -- that is when you see the blacklash. The nasty comments, then, are a very emotional reaction to having very personal fantasies trampled upon.

In real life, a good number white men lose interest if they know a girl has been with a black guy. The reason for this is deeply rooted feelings of sexual inferiority to black men. "If this girl has been with a black guy, how can I satisfy her?".

So much of racism and white supremacy is sourced from this very real sense of sexual frustration that dwells white men. But that is another topic.

God that was fucking retarded and likely 10 times longer than it should have been. I'm not going to read it all right now but I'm quoting before you edit it more.

Yeah, the Southern Racists watch tons of IR porn, because they think it is more degrading for the whore. They are also the ones likely to be cheating on their wife with a black chick "cause fuckin niggurs don't count."

I don't get the whole anti-IR thing. They are whores. 1/2 of em would fuck dogs and horses if it was legal and the pay was right.

You clowns don't have to worry about following BBC, cause you aint ever gonna fuck the whore, IR scene or not. Maybe IR makes it tough for the deluded fanbois to carry on a pretend relationship with the whore, but there really shouldn't be any of those types here.

I also don't understand why Lisa is so popular. She has one of the worst boob-jobs I can remember.

Will someone call Fat Bloddy Douchebag and ask him to run down that coon-post with some Chomsky rationale?

All said and done the cocksucker is still a cocksucker.

Have to agree with Barry on this one. I'd tap it.

Fixed it.

You are paraphrasing that old trope that black people say: "Once you go black you'll never go back." What I am going to say next has been mentioned a few times on the board, but single-note repetition is your stock-in-trade so I will indulge in it also.

Heidi Klum and Seal. She went black for several years and obviously horribly regrets it because she keeps fucking whiter and whiter guys as to dilute her IR shame. If black man sex was a permanent tattoo, why didn't she seek out other high profile brothers? Kim Kardashian has been very consistent in her love of dark dick across her relationships. Unfortunately Heidi reproduced with Seal and is reminded of her mistake every day.

I'd forgotten this was a Lisa Ann thread. Fucking cocksucker fucks up everything he puts his more than likely White hands on.

Lisa Ann is okay. I prefer India Summers or Kendra Lust.

this is a ridiculous comment. a good number of men lose interest if they know a girl has been with a guy on camera, much less many guys, much less black men, much less in her ass, etc. etc. porn is porn is porn. Don't delude yourself into thinking its primarily a black/white thing...that's 1965 thinking. Step into 2014 chief.

I used to try to tell Phoenix Marie this all the time when she would bitch & moan about wanting to be married. Let's be honest, in real life guys think a girl is slutty who has slept with 20 guys much less 200 on camera. So civilians are out. Pro athletes, famous people...they aren't going to be seen in public with a porn star so they are out. Black men aren't going to put a ring on it so they are out. You are left with the other damaged people in the porn industry to date. Good luck with that. lol

Not every man and woman thinks exactly the same way about people and situations in life.

I sustained a great relationship for 4 and a half years while doing hardcore porn. My reason for leaving had nothing to do with porn. In fact I left while I was going to med school simply because I didn't see him being the one I could picture my life with even a few years down the road. The end of our relationship turned into a friendship and very functional room mates. He was first generation American from a French Father and German Mother. He nor his family had issues with my working with any race. (And duh, yes they knew of my work. You can't hide that shit. If you need to be secretive then get the fuck out.)

Now I'm married about 4 years. There's no ill judgement on my life choices. Nor do I have any towards him for his choices either (even though he's not a porn star, guys and girls make "stupid" promiscuous choices in college that are deemed more unsafe than a regularly tested performer).

It seems as though the people who have trouble swallowing the hard to believe scenarios of life are the ones who aren't happy with themselves, don't have a sense of purpose or drive in life, feel lost with no sense of belonging, surely aren't confident with themselves by questioning everything they do and criticize others constantly by way of their insecurity. Because I have yet to meet someone who isn't that way who jumps to ignorant conclusions, racial assumptions and irrational ideas of what they think life is like for a porn star during and after her career.

As I've said before... you just attract the kind of people that reflect who you are. If you're a shit bag then you'll find nothing but shit bags who will treat you like a shit bag. It's pretty damn simple. Some of you people over complicate things.

Whatchu mean "you peepoe"?

Damn, the Generizer always pulls through with the most coherent posts.

But does she consider Lisa Ann hott?

Once she goes black I don't want her back...

I'll use myself as the person to be compared to. I don't consider myself "hot" I'm more-so cute. Maybe pretty on some days but never gorgeous unless sexy make-up and wardrobe can make me that way.

In my opinion, Lisa Ann is some of the few women in the adult industry that seems to have her head screwed on wonderfully. I admire that. That adds to attractive points. She wouldn't fall in the "cute" category as far as physical beauty in my opinion. Maybe hot. She has a great body. Although I'm particular about plastic surgery and wish the surgeon was more mindful with his work on her. She's not 100% my cup of tea but doesn't mean I wouldn't bang her. She's still pretty to me. I wish I had a more simple answer.

Most importantly I'd do her.

...Most importantly I'd do her...
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Heh.
Ring one more for Lisa Ann/

In fairness you also have a larger pool of "damaged people" outside the industry who would be just as willing. And, classify them how you like, but there is without a doubt a contingent of men who find the thought that she has been with 200 or better 2000 guys a huge turn on. I realize that "turn on" and "want to marry" are not the same thing, but men do think with their dicks, and it translates for some.

Probably the biggest problem is finding the civilians who think that way, but isn't this what the Internet is for? Phoenix Marie could advertise for a guy in age range X, decent looks/shape, decent finances, willing to marry. I will bet anything there will be takers. She may need a shrink on call to weed out the dangerous ones.

who is Generizer? not Gen Padova is it?

That's a bingo.

Yes,she is.

I agree with Gen. Although I think Gen is in the minority as far as post porn experience. Because she is a very intelligent, level-headed girl and because she has such a strong sense of who she is. She has never hidden from her porn past. She approached it sensibly from get-go as something for fun and to explore her personality--and also as a business. I think the people that have the best careers in porn (before and after) have these characteristics. They make the choice of doing porn--and never regret it or feel sorry for themselves. They are open and honest to those around them. If those people have a problem with their choices--they simply remove them from their lives and move on. I think you have to. Once you accept and admit anything you have done and decide to 'own' it, it destroys peoples power to hurt you. Then they tend to just go away.
It is obvious to me in many ways Gen and Lisa are much alike.
They are both smart, strong woman who do not tolerate ignorant people. You have to respect that!
Sorry for my ramble. Hope it was semi-coherent.

We all know who she is:

Ronnie James Dio's niece!

For reals?!!! The Last in Line was one of the best albums ever.

Wasn't Meeno Peluce in that video?

Who also was punky brewsters real life brother.