Would you marry an ex-porn actress?

Posted by: E.Y.Davis

Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 08:49 PM

I just re-watched a movie that I really like called "Sexy Beast". The main character, played by Ray Winstone, is married to a former porn actress and lives on the Spanish coast with her. He is a former gang member who escaped Britain to live the life of luxury with the woman he loves in Spain, but gets pulled back to England to do "one last heist". I don't know why, but I really like the opening of that movie. I fantasize about which pornstar I would give up everything for and move to Spain. There is a list, but it is very, very short.



Anyway, it got me thinking. I always figured that there is a line in society that separates the lower class thug from the upper class "YUPPIE". Anybody who would have a serious relationship with a porn star (current or former) has no prospects in life other than pimp, involved in making porno movies, drugs, or maybe manual labor. No successful, intelligent man would have a relationship with a pornstar, would they?

Does this explain why all those pornstars have such goofy, wigger, fashion challenged boyfriends?

Would you take an ex-pornstar home to meet your Mother and talk about marriage if you were successful in life--or if you wanted to be, you know, more than a drug dealing pimp or ditch digger?


Posted by: whorebot

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 09:07 PM

WOW - but not surprising how deluded you are. YOU DAMN RIGHT I WOULD! But only if she were not a drug-addled attention whore. ERGO - not many opportunities.

I don't care if she has a shot-out leather face or a cottage cheese ass. If she fucks like a whore on demand and helps take care of my Mom, I am golden.
Posted by: ivorenginedriver

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 09:11 PM

May not agree with whorebot about politics, but his post here is spot on for me.
Posted by: whorebot

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 09:14 PM

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May not agree with whorebot about politics, but his post here is spot on for me.



"My wayfaring brothers and sisters - we are together again at last"
Posted by: E.Y.Davis

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 09:14 PM

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WOW - but not surprising how deluded you are. YOU DAMN RIGHT I WOULD! But only if she were not a drug-addled attention whore. ERGO - not many opportunities.

I don't care if she has a shot-out leather face or a cottage cheese ass. If she fucks like a whore on demand and helps take care of my Mom, I am golden.




You miss the point. It isn't about the woman. It is about the people you must associate with (like them or hate them) and how it may impact your career. Don't you think you can find a woman who likes sex who didn't become a porn whore? Does every woman who didn't decide to make a porn movie hate sex?

Would you sacrifice a successful career to be with a porn whore? What about a prostitute?

Posted by: backdoorman

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 09:20 PM

I'm retired ! I'll sacrifice whatever it fucking takes !
Posted by: whorebot

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 09:25 PM

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You miss the point. It isn't about the woman. It is about the people you must associate with (like them or hate them) and how it may impact your career. Don't you think you can find a woman who likes sex who didn't become a porn whore? Does every woman who didn't decide to make a porn movie hate sex?
Would you sacrifice a successful career to be with a porn whore? What about a prostitute?



Aiyiyi-you are wrapped into the shame of sex. Oppositely, I am saying I would not veto a good relationship due to her past as a pornwhore. Her STD status would affect our relationship more significantly - because there is a reason they call me "Ass First WhoreBBot". If she still wants to shoot porn - then I would unselfishly serve as her stuntcock on Luckyfuckers.com
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 09:28 PM

Before I was ill, suicidal, medicated and disabled, I wouldn't. My family & friends would have been BEYOND vicious. And, I wouldn't have been REMOTELY interested.

Now? My family & friends would likely even have less issues with it than I would - especially if she were pregnant with my kid. Especially after my cousin and a college friend's mom offed themselves in the past two years - and both had better histories than mine.

I could bring home a black muslim prostitute ex-con and my family and friends would smile if they thought she could remotely get me to care about Life. I could likely bring home both of THE Twins and Vanessa the tranny and no one would say shit.

That's the up side of scaring them with emergency admissions. Now I could get away with anything.

[The downside is there is nothing I want.]
Posted by: ivorenginedriver

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 09:31 PM

Google "Lionel Aldridge" and live like him.
Posted by: E.Y.Davis

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 09:34 PM

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You miss the point. It isn't about the woman. It is about the people you must associate with (like them or hate them) and how it may impact your career. Don't you think you can find a woman who likes sex who didn't become a porn whore? Does every woman who didn't decide to make a porn movie hate sex?
Would you sacrifice a successful career to be with a porn whore? What about a prostitute?



Aiyiyi-you are wrapped into the shame of sex. Oppositely, I am saying I would not veto a good relationship due to her past as a pornwhore. Her STD status would affect our relationship more significantly - because there is a reason they call me "Ass First WhoreBBot". If she still wants to shoot porn - then I would unselfishly serve as her stuntcock on Luckyfuckers.com





I have already stated on previous posts, that I'm not one of those guys who look-down-my-nose at the same porn stars that I fantasize about. Sadly, reality is reality.

You can't have a job, or career, or life, of any significance if you are willing to have a serious relationship or marriage (as opposed to a simple "fling") with a former porn whore--let alone an active one, can you???

Please, feel free to prove me wrong. I sort of wish I was wrong.

Sadly, I know I'm not
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 09:36 PM

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If she still wants to shoot porn - then I would unselfishly serve as her stuntcock on Luckyfuckers.com




You do realize that the MILF Tiger Woods of Politics would probably have you and your new wife arrested for obscenity once she and the bible-thumpers come to power?




You'd have to post blurry Gia pics to Euro porn forums from the Leavenworth Law Library computers.
Posted by: whorebot

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 09:39 PM

So now I see I am really talking to Charlie Sheen.

I know you didn't dump Ginger because of your "career". You dumped Ginger because you could get better whores for less money and hassle.

Who cares what anybody thinks anyway? Ginger is welcome at my family's Christmas Dinner.
Posted by: whorebot

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 09:43 PM

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You do realize that the MILF Tiger Woods of Politics would probably have you and your new wife arrested for obscenity once she and the bible-thumpers come to power?
You'd have to post blurry Gia pics to Euro porn forums from the Leavenworth Law Library computers.



Bible-thumpers? Learn the truth and reject the media narrative. Set yourself free my friend.
Posted by: E.Y.Davis

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 09:51 PM

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So now I see I am really talking to Charlie Sheen.

I know you didn't dump Ginger because of your "career". You dumped Ginger because you could get better whores for less money and hassle.

Who cares what anybody thinks anyway? Ginger is welcome at my family's Christmas Dinner.




I see that, unlike Charlie Sheen, I am talking to somebody who doesn't realize that many, many, many, many, many, many people's livelihoods depends upon what other people think.

From "Mom & Pop" businesses, to politics, to religion. From the corner store in Bumfuck, Iowa to the Senator from New York City. From the Realtor in Kansas to the Family Doctor in Ohio. Who you are is, in part, defined by who you are married to. People who don't know or understand this simple fact of life are only fooling themselves. Are all the readers of XPT really this naive? Or are they just too young, inexperienced and detached from any career or lifestyle above the level of drug dealer to understand this?
Posted by: ben

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 09:53 PM

Absolutely i'd marry an ex-pornstar! (Gia?)
That movie "Sexy Beast" is weird - it starts out like a comedy but then gets very scary. Ian McShane plays a really frightening character!
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 09:53 PM

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Bible-thumpers? Learn the truth and reject the media narrative. Set yourself free my friend.





It's you who's been drinking the Kool-Aid. Embrace Palin. Enjoy. I don't care. But, be ready to kiss your porn goodbye.

Posted by: E.Y.Davis

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 10:04 PM

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Google "Lionel Aldridge" and live like him.




I don't get it. I did "Google" him. I am a big Vince Lombardi fan, but other than that, I don't see the significance.


Posted by: whorebot

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 10:15 PM

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It's you who's been drinking the Kool-Aid. Embrace Palin. Enjoy. I don't care. But, be ready to kiss your porn goodbye.



Fatman, try Cymbalta - it works for me. And do not carry guilt about your media seducement. It has seduced many a good people. Of all your worries about Palin - restricting free speech is NOT one of them.
Posted by: E.Y.Davis

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 10:16 PM

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I'm retired ! I'll sacrifice whatever it fucking takes !




But what if you weren't retired? This is what I am getting at.

"It is easy to be a Holy Man at the top of a mountain."

You do understand what I am asking here, BDM, I know you do, right?
Posted by: E.Y.Davis

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 10:27 PM

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Absolutely i'd marry an ex-pornstar! (Gia?)
That movie "Sexy Beast" is weird - it starts out like a comedy but then gets very scary. Ian McShane plays a really frightening character!




I sold the idea of renting this movie to an old school friend of mine on Ben Kingsley's performance, but Ian McShane was pretty good too. By the way, it became one of my friend's favorite movies.

Which Porn-star would you marry, Ben?

Maybe we should move this thread out of the theoretical to the more concrete? Which porn whore would you give up your current career for and move to a another country to be with?

Posted by: ivorenginedriver

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/18/09 10:38 PM

Lionel Aldridge was diagnosed with schizophrenia and became a strong advocate for persons with mental illness. He was a righteous dude.
Posted by: Barry the Pirate

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 12:37 AM

Good question. Hope you don't get banned for it. I kind of disagree with your "class" arguement. The beauty of living in a free society is that you're not confined to your class. You can move up or down, or hold in place, depending on a your ambition...and tons of other factors. Considering most pw's are in the 18 to 25ish range, they all have the chance to join the real world and put the pw past behind them. I know as a 44 year old, I'm a way different person than I was at 18- 25. I don't think I'd want to be with anyone who held my post high school drug dealing and mushroom cultivating career against me 20some years later. We all have skeletons in our closets. No matter what "class" we're in, we all have goofy stuff in our backgrounds. I guess to me it would matter what a girl was now.

As to your idea that somehow porn chicks are better/ more skilled sexually than a civvie, I think you've bought the porn fantasy that these girls are...well, "hot to trot". I would guess very few of them are. Most are doing it for the money. There are notable exceptions, of course. Ava Devine comes to mind. If a girl does 18 months in the business and moves on, actually using it as a means to end (going to law school...but actually going, not just saying they will) and become a regular ol' member of society, I don't see why their sordid past should be held against them.

Would I? You know, the hearts wants what it wants. You meet a girl, things are going great, you're clicking nicely and she tells you she did porn 20 years ago but has lived a straight life since, who's to say what happens? If everything else was fine, and she was well adjusted to her past, what would be the hangup?

Just my 2 cents.
Barry
Posted by: E.Y.Davis

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 01:07 AM

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I kind of disagree with your "class" arguement. The beauty of living in a free society is that you're not confined to your class.




My point was only that the pathetic parolee mopes that you see on that other thread in the cage might have more to do with the fact that Brad Pitt and JFK jr. (before he died) may not be as likely to date a porn whore as the average, recently released from prison, bukkaki mope with the stupid tattoos and the bad suit, because of social issues more than desire or attraction. Do you see this?



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As to your idea that somehow porn chicks are better/ more skilled sexually than a civvie, I think you've bought the porn fantasy that these girls are...well, "hot to trot". I would guess very few of them are.




I never said or implied such a thing. I doubt that the average porn whore has the passion, the experience, or the skills of the average college girl who is into sex and willing to "experiment". I have dated women who fucked for free, and because they wanted to, and easily had a larger sexual appetite than me--and more than the average money grubbing, man hating porn chick as well.

The difference is that the sexual activity of the average porn whore is on display in her movies, and even if it is all an "act" it can be used as a comparison to the sexual experiences of the typical consumer. MY desires have more to do with personal attraction to a specific woman than they do to some idealized notion of a "porn whore".

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Would I? You know, the hearts wants what it wants.

Just my 2 cents.
Barry




This post was all about what you would give up to satisfy what the heart wants. Giving up a career as Governor of South Carolina to fly to South America to fuck some whore is a bigger sacrifice than Billy Bob skipping out of his shift on the French Fry machine at McDonald's to pick up $20 hooker for a blow job, isn't it? Or are they both the same to you?

Posted by: Barry the Pirate

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 02:48 AM

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I kind of disagree with your "class" arguement. The beauty of living in a free society is that you're not confined to your class.




My point was only that the pathetic parolee mopes that you see on that other thread in the cage might have more to do with the fact that Brad Pitt and JFK jr. (before he died) may not be as likely to date a porn whore as the average, recently released from prison, bukkaki mope with the stupid tattoos and the bad suit, because of social issues more than desire or attraction. Do you see this?



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As to your idea that somehow porn chicks are better/ more skilled sexually than a civvie, I think you've bought the porn fantasy that these girls are...well, "hot to trot". I would guess very few of them are.




I never said or implied such a thing. I doubt that the average porn whore has the passion, the experience, or the skills of the average college girl who is into sex and willing to "experiment". I have dated women who fucked for free, and because they wanted to, and easily had a larger sexual appetite than me--and more than the average money grubbing, man hating porn chick as well.

The difference is that the sexual activity of the average porn whore is on display in her movies, and even if it is all an "act" it can be used as a comparison to the sexual experiences of the typical consumer. MY desires have more to do with personal attraction to a specific woman than they do to some idealized notion of a "porn whore".

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Would I? You know, the hearts wants what it wants.

Just my 2 cents.
Barry




This post was all about what you would give up to satisfy what the heart wants. Giving up a career as Governor of South Carolina to fly to South America to fuck some whore is a bigger sacrifice than Billy Bob skipping out of his shift on the French Fry machine at McDonald's to pick up $20 hooker for a blow job, isn't it? Or are they both the same to you?






The original question wasn't about the Gov of South Carolina and his whore or Billy Joe skipping the late shift to buy a blowjob. The question was "Would you marry an ex- porn actress?". I seriously doubt any of us are Brad Pitt or JFKJR. And I'd imagine most of us aren't just released from prison bukakke mopes either. The question was would any of us? I guess I was looking at it from my own perspective, as neither Brad Pitt or a bukakke mope, but as some 44 year old middle class guy. I would assume that any woman I'd be sparking in the parlour would be of similar age. If everything were going swimmingly otherwise, to be told that she did some porn 20 years before might take me aback some. But everything else being good, I'd still have to say that it probably wouldn't be a dealbreaker. I don't see what sacrifice I would be making. Sure, there's the chance someone might find out and the past might raise it's head, but like I said, we all did stupid shit when we were young. I wouldn't walk away from my home, my family, my cat, my friends for a woman. Any woman. If I were in love with a woman who had a past like that, I'd assume I'd make the same sacrifices that I'd make for any woman I was in love and ready to make a lifetime commitment with.

That said, if I were 25 or abouts, I doubt I'd sacrifice much for a girl who was a month out of the business. I guess it's all about where we are at in the period in our lives when this person enters our life.

If it makes me a mope that I can overlook a persons past, if they've turned it around and are a solid citizen, I guess I'm a mope. But that wasn't what you asked, until you refined it to the Governor or Billy Bob thing. Maybe that's what you should've asked. What would any of us ssacrifice to bang some whore, instead of the lifetime relationship quest that you originally asked.

Congrats on dating women who fuck for free.

Barry
Posted by: E.Y.Davis

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 04:01 AM


Barry, go back to the original post. I think maybe we have traveled too far astray?

Posted by: Bon Vivant

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 04:36 AM

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Anyway, it got me thinking. I always figured that there is a line in society that separates the lower class thug from the upper class "YUPPIE". Anybody who would have a serious relationship with a porn star (current or former) has no prospects in life other than pimp, involved in making porno movies, drugs, or maybe manual labor. No successful, intelligent man would have a relationship with a pornstar, would they?




I think you are both onto something and way off base. First of all, I don't see how marrying an (ex) porn star can be detrimental to your career. I haven't a clue what most of my co-workers spouses do (never met 95% of them) and they only know something about mine because I chose to tell, I could have just as easily avoided the subject completely.

Secondly it is a mistake to think that even a highly intelligent man wouldn't be interested in a porn star -- I'm guessing no one here has a clue who my avatar is, but he is a writer who was absolutely obsessed with prostitutes, some of whom had a kind of fame -- the porn stars of their day. Read Bel-Ami whose title was stolen for a porn film (and numerous straight ones, none of which I've seen) or La maison Tellier.

Last comes the element of truth: the problem isn't so much class, but it is education and interests. Most porn chicks haven't finished high school let alone college. Many are as dumb as rocks. Marrying, as opposed to screwing one of them, makes no sense. There are of course exceptions and those would be just as marriageable, or not, as anyone else.
Posted by: Barry the Pirate

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 04:44 AM

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Barry, go back to the original post. I think maybe we have traveled too far astray?






OK, I looked. Still a good topic, by the way.

I still disagree with you, tho. I believe that because a girl did a porn stint she's not painted with that brush forever. You asked about ex- pw's. At my age, with a girl of a similar age, who was 5, 10, 15+ years out of the business, living a normal productive life as a citizen, and everything else being good, yes I would take them to meet the family. I believe people can change themselves.

I think where we're getting off the track is your definition of an ex- pw, and what they've done since becoming an ex- pw. Again, from my perspective as a non- pimp, non- ditch digger (I don't even mow my own lawn), non-porn producing, average Joe Sixpack 44 year old, if I met a girl and everything was going great and she copped to getting throatfucked on film in the 80's, but was an average Jane Sixpack since then (working a job, paying her taxes, living a normal life), it really wouldn't change the way I felt. I'm sure I'd secretly try to find her scenes. I'll admit to that. If in the middle of it all she announced that she was going to do some scenes for JM, well, that'd be a whole nother kettle of fish.

The fact is, thousands of girls have been "porn stars" since the Deep Throat era. I don't know the percentages, but I seriously doubt that every girl left the industry and blew their brains out on drugs, or married a ditch digger, or lived a sub- standard life. I'm sure plenty of them went to school, got counseling, whatever to put that life behind them. And I'm sure many of them married normal guys with jobs and prospects and moved on with life. Sure, you hear the horror stories of the Milton Twins, or the Ellie and SWCNBN sagea, or Savannah, or whoever. But I'd assume a pretty fair percentage do their time in the industry and move on.

I guess I'm saying it all depends on the individuals involved and what their comfort level is. And I guess I'm also saying that because you did some scenes, that doesn't have to define the rest of your life. I think that's where you and I part company. What I get from you is "once a pw, always a pw". I just don't feel that way. Money and societal standing don't mean that you have class. You mentioned Pitt and JFKJR earlier. First off, there's not much difference between Jolie and a porn whore. Pitt is a classless goofball. And the Kennedys. Richer than fuck, but what a collection of pieces of shit and dolts. What prospects would any of them have had if ol' Joe wasn't a rumrunner during Prohibition? None.

If I'm still off base, tell me how, because this is an interesting topic.

Barry
Posted by: Barry the Pirate

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 04:52 AM

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Anyway, it got me thinking. I always figured that there is a line in society that separates the lower class thug from the upper class "YUPPIE". Anybody who would have a serious relationship with a porn star (current or former) has no prospects in life other than pimp, involved in making porno movies, drugs, or maybe manual labor. No successful, intelligent man would have a relationship with a pornstar, would they?




I think you are both onto something and way off base. First of all, I don't see how marrying an (ex) porn star can be detrimental to your career. I haven't a clue what most of my co-workers spouses do (never met 95% of them) and they only know something about mine because I chose to tell, I could have just as easily avoided the subject completely.

Secondly it is a mistake to think that even a highly intelligent man wouldn't be interested in a porn star -- I'm guessing no one here has a clue who my avatar is, but he is a writer who was absolutely obsessed with prostitutes, some of whom had a kind of fame -- the porn stars of their day. Read Bel-Ami whose title was stolen for a porn film (and numerous straight ones, none of which I've seen) or La maison Tellier.

Last comes the element of truth: the problem isn't so much class, but it is education and interests. Most porn chicks haven't finished high school let alone college. Many are as dumb as rocks. Marrying, as opposed to screwing one of them, makes no sense. There are of course exceptions and those would be just as marriageable, or not, as anyone else.




I guess I'm thinking of a no name who did a handful of scenes. That makes a "star" in this business. Not a household name like Jenna (yuck) or Nina Hartley or Jesse Jane.

I admit not knowing who your avatar is, but I've been describing myself as a bon vivant for about 2 weeks now.

Barry- Bon vivant and gadabout
Posted by: geek

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 06:03 AM

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You miss the point. It isn't about the woman. It is about the people you must associate with (like them or hate them) and how it may impact your career. Don't you think you can find a woman who likes sex who didn't become a porn whore? Does every woman who didn't decide to make a porn movie hate sex?

Would you sacrifice a successful career to be with a porn whore? What about a prostitute?






Date one and you are a hero. Marry one and you have "issues".

Society is about acceptable norms. Example: Married guy living in a family neighborhood is accepted and included by all the married-family neighbors. Guy gets a divorce but stays in the neighborhood, he becomes a pariah. Same guy, same neighbors.

Most people don't marry other people who fuck on camera and show the movies to the world. Whether you consider it ok or not is not the point. It is outside the social norms, and therefore no good for being accepted. Dating one is a temporary fantasy and just playing around. Change the subject to devil worshipers, bondage types or followers of Santería and you get the same result. You don't fit in.

Job applications these days have drug tests, criminal checks, reference checks and previous job histories. Why? Companies do not want a potentially embarrassing situation on their hands. Head of Corporate Council's wife on youtube shoving a beer bottle up her ass? Not good publicity.

Is he or she a good person? Soul mate? Does not matter in the context of your query.

Marry one? Not advisable. All women fuck. Want good fucking? Find a horny housewife that wants to play. No need to kill a life in the process.
Posted by: Soopergrizz

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 06:10 AM

One of my employees, a young professional, was dating an asian massage parlour girl, he would show up with her at various office functions at which she dressed in a most skanky and unprfoessional. He revelled in the fact that she looked like the whore she was. He liked to remind his co-workers that she was a whore. He thought it was cool, most people thought it was degrading to her.

Ultimately, he was let go. Not specifically because of his girlfriend (it didn't last that long), but because of his poor judgment. Parading around his whore was just one example of it.

In other cases, I have friends and colleagues who are in long term relationships with retired strippers - can't say if they were escorts, and there is no problem at all. As both the man and the woman present themselves as mature professionals, even if one of them was in the skin trade.

I think the bottom line is that the issue is more the maturity of the people involved, and how they choose to present themselves, rather than what they used to do before embarking on their current career.
Posted by: SexDJ

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 08:52 AM

Only if it was Lubben.
Posted by: Dick Dastardly

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 11:47 AM

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Only if it was Lubben.




I would hope ONLY to smack your cock on her forehead repeatedly & remind her it’s all in the name of Jesus.
Posted by: delanoojos

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 12:44 PM

Yes , it all depends. I was enganged to Hayapatia Lee for about six months. But she decided to go to LA and stop stripping. So in effect, I would not have married a porn star.
Posted by: ChipE

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 12:55 PM

The slug that married Raylene is my idol.
He put the ho back to work first chance he got.
Posted by: cameronkeys

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 01:09 PM

It can happen, but it is rare. My husband is not in the business and is very successful, and intelligent. Not everyone he works with knows what I do though. We try to keep our private life private.

Then again...we were already married for many years when I decided to take the plunge from stripping to porn and we discussed it fully.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 01:21 PM

So, O white-trashy-one, in essence, "Mr. Keys" didn't opt to marry a girl already a porn star. One morning he woke up married to a stripper. A few days/weeks later he woke up married to a porn star.

How long to the "discussion" turn to GFEs? Or is he already married to a hooker? [not that there's anything much more wrong with that than the other ...]
Posted by: NitneLiun

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 01:29 PM

I would be willing to marry a former PW, but the criteria and conditions would probably narrow the pool down to about three. Therefore, it is extremely unlikely that it will happen.
Posted by: I Is The Maaaannn

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 04:12 PM

I would marry Gia!!!
Posted by: E.Y.Davis

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 05:04 PM

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I think you are both onto something and way off base. First of all, I don't see how marrying an (ex) porn star can be detrimental to your career.




It is my fault for not doing a better job of laying out the dilemma in my invented scenario.

Could you use your imagination and invent a situation (no matter how fantastical) where a fictional person (not yourself) has a job that might suffer (either because of clients, co-workers, or bosses) if they married a woman who has pornographic pictures and movies readily available on the internet?

So far nobody responding on this thread can even conceive of such a situation. Am I really so far off base? Could President Obama still have been elected if he was married to a porn actress? What if she did bestiality porn? What about your local pastor? What about the CEO of Proctor & Gamble? An FBI or CIA agent? A junior executive whose boss is a born again christian? An advertising executive whose clients include "wholesome" family values companies? An army general being considered for a fourth star? An upper class family in New England whose father is the president of the uptight country club? Anybody with a mother?

You really can't imagine a life where this sort of thing matters? Nobody else can either? It is easier to imagine getting married to a porn star than having a career or life where that would be a negative thing?

It is one thing to respond saying that to a specific person it does not matter (I can get that), but the responses from people who can't imagine how it could possibly matter to anybody are a bit unexpected.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 05:42 PM

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Could President Obama still have been elected if he was married to a porn actress?




As of 2007, I thought a guy had a better chance getting elected married to a porn star than married to a black woman.
Posted by: Big Red

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 06:10 PM

Marriage is a archaic institution, and I don't wish to be institutionalized. You will only truely know a women when she divorces you. Then you see the succubus demon she truly is
Posted by: SexDJ

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 06:16 PM

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Only if it was Lubben.




I would hope ONLY to smack your cock on her forehead repeatedly & remind her it’s all in the name of Jesus.



I figure that marrying me would be far more humiliating than anything she would have ever done in porn.
Posted by: cameronkeys

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 07:02 PM

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So, O white-trashy-one, in essence, "Mr. Keys" didn't opt to marry a girl already a porn star. One morning he woke up married to a stripper. A few days/weeks later he woke up married to a porn star.

How long to the "discussion" turn to GFEs? Or is he already married to a hooker? [not that there's anything much more wrong with that than the other ...]


he didn't "wake up" married to anything. I wouldn't make the choice to do something like get into the adult industry without consulting him. Nor would he without consulting me. We both believe that honesty and mutual respect are important in our relationship. Had he not been comfortable with it, I wouldn't have done it. I love what I do, but it wouldn't be worth risking my marriage over. And no gfe/hooker discussion. That's not something iM comfortable with doing, so I don't.
Posted by: cameronkeys

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 07:06 PM

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I have the killer question. "Do you like reading, and discussing books together"

Wham! In porn valley that would limit me to Holly Randall.


we do enjoy that actually!
Posted by: conundrum

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 07:32 PM

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I would be willing to marry a former PW, but the criteria and conditions would probably narrow the pool down to about three. Therefore, it is extremely unlikely that it will happen.




I have the killer question. "Do you like reading, and discussing books together"

Wham! In porn valley that would limit me to Holly Randall.




Holly Randall is neither an "ex-porn actress" / former PW nor a potential polyandrist (I think...) - so you're down to zero.

"Porn actress" is an oxymoron anyway, isn't it?
Posted by: pinupmutant

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 08:19 PM

Dirty Didi! I want to be as scary as Ben Kingsley was in that movie. No one would fuck with me on MUNI, ever.

I would marry a pornstar, but only if her name was Gia Jordan.


Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 08:21 PM

Barnyard's Pinupmutant!?!? Haven't see you in like a dog's age.

Hope all is well, girl.
Posted by: backdoorman

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 08:48 PM

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Marriage is a archaic institution, and I don't wish to be institutionalized. You will only truely know a women when she divorces you. Then you see the succubus demon she truly is



If you've never spoken the truth before you sure as fuck just did !
Posted by: Barry the Pirate

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/19/09 10:53 PM

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I think you are both onto something and way off base. First of all, I don't see how marrying an (ex) porn star can be detrimental to your career.




It is my fault for not doing a better job of laying out the dilemma in my invented scenario.

Could you use your imagination and invent a situation (no matter how fantastical) where a fictional person (not yourself) has a job that might suffer (either because of clients, co-workers, or bosses) if they married a woman who has pornographic pictures and movies readily available on the internet?

So far nobody responding on this thread can even conceive of such a situation. Am I really so far off base? Could President Obama still have been elected if he was married to a porn actress? What if she did bestiality porn? What about your local pastor? What about the CEO of Proctor & Gamble? An FBI or CIA agent? A junior executive whose boss is a born again christian? An advertising executive whose clients include "wholesome" family values companies? An army general being considered for a fourth star? An upper class family in New England whose father is the president of the uptight country club? Anybody with a mother?

You really can't imagine a life where this sort of thing matters? Nobody else can either? It is easier to imagine getting married to a porn star than having a career or life where that would be a negative thing?

It is one thing to respond saying that to a specific person it does not matter (I can get that), but the responses from people who can't imagine how it could possibly matter to anybody are a bit unexpected.





OK. I get it now. You just had it presented a different way. I can agree with this scenario. I still kind of disagree with the class issue, but I can see how certain jobs/ bosses might be problematic. I doubt my job would like it, but I guess it would be a matter of discretion. I mean, who wants to be the guy who walks into the bosses office and say "i was watching an interracial gangbang scene and so and so's wife was the guest of honor". I can see how it might cause trouble. I guess that's the decision you have to make. Can you steel yourself enough to be prepared for the day your secret comes out.

Barry
Posted by: E.Y.Davis

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/20/09 12:16 AM

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OK. I get it now. You just had it presented a different way. I can agree with this scenario. I still kind of disagree with the class issue, but I can see how certain jobs/ bosses might be problematic. I doubt my job would like it, but I guess it would be a matter of discretion. I mean, who wants to be the guy who walks into the bosses office and say "i was watching an interracial gangbang scene and so and so's wife was the guest of honor". I can see how it might cause trouble. I guess that's the decision you have to make. Can you steel yourself enough to be prepared for the day your secret comes out.

Barry




I think you're getting close. I also suspect you are a bit smarter and more honest than the average person here.

I used to scrub toilets and mop floors and had a thousand other menial labor shit jobs I hated and I bit my fucking tongue and I did every one of them better than anybody else around me. I enlisted in the military to "escape". And I moved on.

I see a movie like "Sexy Beast" and I get a bit nostalgic and sentimental. A man is unapologetically in love with his ex-pornstar wife and happy. I pop into XPT and surf a little porn and I see pages of beautiful, sexy women who I'd love to spend a night with... I'd love to spend a life with. I think to myself, "What a silly fantasy! You know you could never be with a porn star." It makes me a bit sad and conflicted. I decide to post a new thread to discuss it and I'm met with a slightly more diplomatic version of:

"YO Doood, u be wack, everybody be luvin it if they girl was a big ole porn whore with the big titties and the tight pussie you could fuck every night and all those guys down at my parole office would have to give up mad props, yo!"

Posted by: E.Y.Davis

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/20/09 01:12 AM

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"Porn actress" is an oxymoron anyway, isn't it?




No, Conundrum, it is not. Why would you think it was?

Do all of the performances seem so realistic to you that you could not believe that anybody could possibly be acting?

"Porn actress" is not an oxymoron it is an understatement.

Posted by: Bon Vivant

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/20/09 05:57 AM

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I think you are both onto something and way off base. First of all, I don't see how marrying an (ex) porn star can be detrimental to your career.




It is my fault for not doing a better job of laying out the dilemma in my invented scenario.

Could you use your imagination and invent a situation (no matter how fantastical) where a fictional person (not yourself) has a job that might suffer (either because of clients, co-workers, or bosses) if they married a woman who has pornographic pictures and movies readily available on the internet?
...
It is one thing to respond saying that to a specific person it does not matter (I can get that), but the responses from people who can't imagine how it could possibly matter to anybody are a bit unexpected.



The division is simple really -- jobs where who you are married to is material (politician, or a serious security clearance is required), and those where it isn't. Obviously if you intend to run for office, porn stars are not for you.

One example given above was of someone parading his slutty girlfriend and getting fired. That's the point -- you do not need to advertise. Doesn't matter if your boss is a born again, if they haven't a clue who your spouse is. It is none of their business, unless you are stupid enough to make it their business. At worst some HR drones will know from your benefits/insurance forms that you are married to Jane YourLastNameHere, and that will mean absolutely nothing to them even if they know your wife's nom du porn and frantically jerk off to her DVDs nightly.

If you are married to an ex porn star, you don't fraternize with your co-workers. It is very easy not to.

If you have burning ambition and want to be a CEO, you need to start your own company if you have a porn wife.
Posted by: Barry the Pirate

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/20/09 06:35 AM

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Marriage is a archaic institution, and I don't wish to be institutionalized. You will only truely know a women when she divorces you. Then you see the succubus demon she truly is




Not true. My ex- cunt was an evil demon (not a succubus tho...then she'd have had to have sex with me) long before we divorced. Quick example: When my dad died, I had the week off because my company gives a week's bereavement time. He died on a Tuesday and the funeral was Friday. Much had to be done. One of the days I was pretty much out of the house for the day...meeting with the preacher, the funeral director, trying to keep my mom from coming unhinged. When I got home, she asked where I'd been. I gave her a quick summary. Her reply was that she thought I was out paying bills, but that couldn't be because I never payed any bills. (towards the end money became her hammer because I wouldn't rise to her attempts to fight with me and I stopped caring that wouldn't fuck me..but she knew money and bills hit me where I lived, so it was pretty effective) On Thursday morning of that week, it became apparent to her I wasn't going to work. She asked, I told her I wasn't. "You can't tell me you're going to take this whole week off". It was that week that I realized the bith was fucking crazy and that I needed out.

Barry
Posted by: Barry the Pirate

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/20/09 07:32 AM

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OK. I get it now. You just had it presented a different way. I can agree with this scenario. I still kind of disagree with the class issue, but I can see how certain jobs/ bosses might be problematic. I doubt my job would like it, but I guess it would be a matter of discretion. I mean, who wants to be the guy who walks into the bosses office and say "i was watching an interracial gangbang scene and so and so's wife was the guest of honor". I can see how it might cause trouble. I guess that's the decision you have to make. Can you steel yourself enough to be prepared for the day your secret comes out.

Barry




I think you're getting close. I also suspect you are a bit smarter and more honest than the average person here.

I used to scrub toilets and mop floors and had a thousand other menial labor shit jobs I hated and I bit my fucking tongue and I did every one of them better than anybody else around me. I enlisted in the military to "escape". And I moved on.

I see a movie like "Sexy Beast" and I get a bit nostalgic and sentimental. A man is unapologetically in love with his ex-pornstar wife and happy. I pop into XPT and surf a little porn and I see pages of beautiful, sexy women who I'd love to spend a night with... I'd love to spend a life with. I think to myself, "What a silly fantasy! You know you could never be with a porn star." It makes me a bit sad and conflicted. I decide to post a new thread to discuss it and I'm met with a slightly more diplomatic version of:

"YO Doood, u be wack, everybody be luvin it if they girl was a big ole porn whore with the big titties and the tight pussie you could fuck every night and all those guys down at my parole office would have to give up mad props, yo!"






I get that. But I guess the real question is do you love the girl or the image? I've always had a thing for Ava Devine (feel free to start shitting on me) but I always knew that it was the image that turned me on. In some weird universe that she and I were to connect somehow, there's no way it could work. Sure, she's a freak and all, but I have the feeling she has little control over her sexually acting out. And that would get very old very fast. I'm not sure I'd care what my boss or co- workers thought of me being with a porn chick. I mean, I've told them about hooker experiences I've had...I think just to make them uncomfortable more than anything. But the big stumbling block would be me. My SO coming home with parolee stink on her would be too much to bear.

Barry
Posted by: Big Red

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/20/09 02:24 PM

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Marriage is a archaic institution, and I don't wish to be institutionalized. You will only truely know a women when she divorces you. Then you see the succubus demon she truly is




Not true. My ex- cunt was an evil demon (not a succubus tho...then she'd have had to have sex with me) long before we divorced. Quick example: When my dad died, I had the week off because my company gives a week's bereavement time. He died on a Tuesday and the funeral was Friday. Much had to be done. One of the days I was pretty much out of the house for the day...meeting with the preacher, the funeral director, trying to keep my mom from coming unhinged. When I got home, she asked where I'd been. I gave her a quick summary. Her reply was that she thought I was out paying bills, but that couldn't be because I never payed any bills. (towards the end money became her hammer because I wouldn't rise to her attempts to fight with me and I stopped caring that wouldn't fuck me..but she knew money and bills hit me where I lived, so it was pretty effective) On Thursday morning of that week, it became apparent to her I wasn't going to work. She asked, I told her I wasn't. "You can't tell me you're going to take this whole week off". It was that week that I realized the bith was fucking crazy and that I needed out.

Barry




The modern day Succubus has evolved they attack and drain you on Emotional, Spiritual and Financial levels.
(P.S: sorry to hear about such a fucking hell week for you..dam must have been very stressfull)
Posted by: backdoorman

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/20/09 02:45 PM

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"Porn actress" is an oxymoron anyway, isn't it?




No, Conundrum, it is not. Why would you think it was?

Do all of the performances seem so realistic to you that you could not believe that anybody could possibly be acting?

"Porn actress" is not an oxymoron it is an understatement.






I believe "porn director" probably is a little more oxymoronic !
Posted by: wannacorndog

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/20/09 05:26 PM

I don't think I could handle marrying an active PW personally. If it was something from her past, I don't think I would have a second thought about it.I do think there are a few PW's that would be a blast to hang with for the night and party.Crackheads, meth monsters or flakes need not apply.
Posted by: freestylah

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/20/09 05:41 PM

cameron:

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I have the killer question. "Do you like reading, and discussing books together"

Wham! In porn valley that would limit me to Holly Randall.


we do enjoy that actually!




What kind of books do you and/or your partner read?

I'm sincerely (without any sarcasm) curious.
Posted by: zenman

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/20/09 06:15 PM

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Would you marry an ex-porn actress?




Does she do anal?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/20/09 07:00 PM

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I always figured that there is a line in society that separates the lower class thug from the upper class "YUPPIE".




"Reality is thermoplastic, not thermosetting."
Posted by: conundrum

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/20/09 07:21 PM

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"Porn actress" is an oxymoron anyway, isn't it?




No, Conundrum, it is not. Why would you think it was?

Do all of the performances seem so realistic to you that you could not believe that anybody could possibly be acting?

"Porn actress" is not an oxymoron it is an understatement.






I didn't call the term "porn actress" an oxymoron because it fits the strict linguistic definition. It doesn't. I did it to express my feeling that the acting in porn movies is usually so bad that the words "porn" and "actress" are incongruous to me. Incongruous to the point of contradiction.

Sometimes people claim that a pair of terms is an oxymoron for humorous effect. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't...
Posted by: charin

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/20/09 07:21 PM

1. Fuck 'em all but nine. If that's who I wanted to be with, fuck it. I don't need to kiss anyone's ass so hard they tell me who I can marry.

2. In my experience, many women who have experience in the sex industry tend to look at sex as a commodity. Many of them have trouble with intimacy. There may be many exceptions, so please don't anyone get miffed, just what I've experienced.

-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/20/09 09:06 PM

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cameron:

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I have the killer question. "Do you like reading, and discussing books together"

Wham! In porn valley that would limit me to Holly Randall.


we do enjoy that actually!




What kind of books do you and/or your partner read?

I'm sincerely (without any sarcasm) curious.




The Physician's Desk Reference?
Posted by: NitneLiun

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/21/09 03:33 AM

The acting in porn flicks is actually quite good. Many PWs are able to convince the viewer that they are enjoying the sex.
Posted by: Outback Whack

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/21/09 07:09 AM

When I was starting out in my career I would have been terrified of what my bosses/colleagues and friends would think if I was to date or marry a girl in the sex industry. However, I have now reached such a stage in my career and life generally that I don't give a shit what others think. I have also seen my colleagues have absolutely disastrous marriages with 'respectable' women - I am sure none of those colleagues would think ill of me for marrying a porn star given their own past experiences with marriage.

Sure, I would accept that I could never run for public office, and office juniors would wink, nudge and titter behind my back. But neither of those aspects would concern me these days.
Posted by: Bon Vivant

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/21/09 07:39 AM

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The acting in porn flicks is actually quite good. Many PWs are able to convince the viewer that they are enjoying the sex.



Marilyn Chambers: People say, "Are you just acting?" Well, you can't act when you've got a fist up your butt.

That's why many enjoy extreme porn: not so much for the acts themselves, but to guarantee that the reactions aren't fake. Whoever does the first No Faking Allowed line (and means it) will clean up. It is more erotic to watch a porn bimbette hating every second of the sex and thinking about her paycheck, than have a bunch of fake Teri Weigelish screams and moans.



Posted by: cameronkeys

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/21/09 11:00 AM

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cameron:

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I have the killer question. "Do you like reading, and discussing books together"

Wham! In porn valley that would limit me to Holly Randall.


we do enjoy that actually!




What kind of books do you and/or your partner read?

I'm sincerely (without any sarcasm) curious.




I'll prob regret this but I'll bite...

I'm a voracious reader. I'll read pretty much anything and go through 2-3 books a week. I'm esp. fond of crime novels, true crime and period books. (as in time period...not menstrual for those literary challenged.). My all time fav. book since I was a kid is A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith. Set in turn of the century Brooklyn.
Posted by: *L*G*

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/21/09 11:25 AM

yes Demmi Cox and her slut daughter
Posted by: freestylah

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/21/09 12:04 PM

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I'll prob regret this but I'll bite...

I'm a voracious reader. I'll read pretty much anything and go through 2-3 books a week. I'm esp. fond of crime novels, true crime and period books. (as in time period...not menstrual for those literary challenged.). My all time fav. book since I was a kid is A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith. Set in turn of the century Brooklyn.




Thanks. Any favourite crime writers? (I don't know much about crime novels. Tom Clancy is probably not a crime novelist?)

I don't quite get the 'period books' thing. Isn't every story set in a certain period of time? Is there a specific period of time you like more than others?
Posted by: delanoojos

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/21/09 02:34 PM

Yes for sure, if it was Hailey Young. I would be able to have the friends over for poker, they each give me $50 bucks to dump a load down ther throat. Five parties a week, shit thats $5K a week. Ya I would marry the lady. Thinking a nice profit center.

Any way that I look at it it would just be for my entertainment and some gas money. Look at it this way, they arnt smart enought to tell a real diamond from a wallmart special, you can give them a shagg rud coat they think it'fur..get it...

Fuck ya Id marry Hailey Young. We could invite a of the Gokkum boys that she drained...my mom would be proud.

But Im starting not to like Bree
Im starting to like Heather Brooke

Still the best ass ever in Porn is Nina Hartley

For a fat girl Shauna McCoulough (sp)was great, perfect tits for a big girl.

Fuck it.....
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/21/09 02:37 PM

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thats $5K a week.




That wouldn't begin to cover her drug tab.
Posted by: The Ghost Is Toast

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/21/09 04:13 PM

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Yes for sure, if it was Hailey Young. I would be able to have the friends over for poker,




Don't forget, you could also use her fivehead as a poker table.
Posted by: NitneLiun

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/21/09 09:48 PM

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Still the best ass ever in Porn is Nina Hartley




Word. It was a national tragedy when it began to get all cottage cheesy.
Posted by: E.Y.Davis

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/21/09 10:04 PM

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You miss the point. It isn't about the woman. It is about the people you must associate with (like them or hate them) and how it may impact your career. Don't you think you can find a woman who likes sex who didn't become a porn whore? Does every woman who didn't decide to make a porn movie hate sex?

Would you sacrifice a successful career to be with a porn whore? What about a prostitute?






Date one and you are a hero. Marry one and you have "issues".

Society is about acceptable norms. Example: Married guy living in a family neighborhood is accepted and included by all the married-family neighbors. Guy gets a divorce but stays in the neighborhood, he becomes a pariah. Same guy, same neighbors.

Most people don't marry other people who fuck on camera and show the movies to the world. Whether you consider it ok or not is not the point. It is outside the social norms, and therefore no good for being accepted. Dating one is a temporary fantasy and just playing around. Change the subject to devil worshipers, bondage types or followers of Santería and you get the same result. You don't fit in.

Job applications these days have drug tests, criminal checks, reference checks and previous job histories. Why? Companies do not want a potentially embarrassing situation on their hands. Head of Corporate Council's wife on youtube shoving a beer bottle up her ass? Not good publicity.

Is he or she a good person? Soul mate? Does not matter in the context of your query.

Marry one? Not advisable. All women fuck. Want good fucking? Find a horny housewife that wants to play. No need to kill a life in the process.





I missed this post the first few dozen times around. I think you relate to the point I was initially trying to make, Geek. How odd!

Having realized all of what you have just said, would you ever make the sacrifice? If so, for whom?

Posted by: cameronkeys

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/21/09 10:08 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I'll prob regret this but I'll bite...

I'm a voracious reader. I'll read pretty much anything and go through 2-3 books a week. I'm esp. fond of crime novels, true crime and period books. (as in time period...not menstrual for those literary challenged.). My all time fav. book since I was a kid is A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith. Set in turn of the century Brooklyn.




Thanks. Any favourite crime writers? (I don't know much about crime novels. Tom Clancy is probably not a crime novelist?)

I don't quite get the 'period books' thing. Isn't every story set in a certain period of time? Is there a specific period of time you like more than others?




For novels I like Jeffrey Deaver and James Patterson. For true crime Ann Rule is a fav. Though I like them all.

"Period books" are usually set at a specific time and place in the past. Turn of the century Brooklyn, Victorian London, WW2 Japan, etc...
Posted by: ivorenginedriver

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/21/09 10:16 PM

For novels I like Hemingway, Updike, Garcia Marquez, and Vargas Llosa the best. For true crime, Wambaugh.
Posted by: cameronkeys

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/21/09 10:25 PM

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For novels I like Hemingway, Updike, Garcia Marquez, and Vargas Llosa the best. For true crime, Wambaugh.


Never got into Hemingway. Updike is good. As far as classics go...I do love Shakespeare. Cant beat the Bard!
Wambaugh huh? I think I've read him, but I'm not sure...will have to check my collection. If not, I'll check him out, thanks!
Posted by: E.Y.Davis

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/21/09 10:33 PM

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For novels I like Hemingway, Updike, Garcia Marquez, and Vargas Llosa the best. For true crime, Wambaugh.




Can't you get banned from XPT for reading stuff like that?

Not too long ago I finally read "For Whom the Bell Tolls". It was assigned in Secondary School, High School, and College and I never read it until a few months ago.

I read "The Sun Also Rises" many years ago (after also skipping it in school) as a drunken bum in Rota, Spain on a bus ride back from a bullfight in Madrid to Barcelona and loved it. Since then, I try to read something by Hemmingway every year, even if it is a short story.

No matter how much of a "big name" Hemmingway is, he is an under-appreciated genius.

Hemmingway and Wambaugh are writers. Updike is over-rated. Garcia Marquez is a one hit wonder and I don't know Vargas Llosa from a hole in the wall.

Posted by: E.Y.Davis

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/21/09 10:44 PM

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For novels I like Hemingway, Updike, Garcia Marquez, and Vargas Llosa the best. For true crime, Wambaugh.


Never got into Hemingway. Updike is good. As far as classics go...I do love Shakespeare. Cant beat the Bard!
Wambaugh huh? I think I've read him, but I'm not sure...will have to check my collection. If not, I'll check him out, thanks!




Cameron,

Read "The Sun Also Rises" in the summer time while drunk, (preferably overseas in Spain or France) and you will get Hemmingway. Uhm, at least that is what did it for me after hating him for years as an over-rated hack writer. Then try a few selections out of "The Snows of Kilimanjaro" or "A Movables Feast" collections of short stories. I have tried "The Old Man & the Sea" a few times, but never really got it.

Updike is OK, but barely a step above whoever wrote scripts for Gilligan's Island or The Brady Bunch.

Posted by: cameronkeys

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/21/09 11:03 PM

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For novels I like Hemingway, Updike, Garcia Marquez, and Vargas Llosa the best. For true crime, Wambaugh.


Never got into Hemingway. Updike is good. As far as classics go...I do love Shakespeare. Cant beat the Bard!
Wambaugh huh? I think I've read him, but I'm not sure...will have to check my collection. If not, I'll check him out, thanks!




Cameron,

Read "The Sun Also Rises" in the summer time while drunk, (preferably overseas in Spain or France) and you will get Hemmingway. Uhm, at least that is what did it for me after hating him for years as an over-rated hack writer. Then try a few selections out of "The Snows of Kilimanjaro" or "A Movables Feast" collections of short stories. I have tried "The Old Man & the Sea" a few times, but never really got it.

Updike is OK, but barely a step above whoever wrote scripts for Gilligan's Island or The Brady Bunch.





It isnt that I dont get Hemingway...its just not my cup of tea
Posted by: Claude Goddard

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/22/09 12:09 AM

I think Hemingway's best stuff is his early short stories like Indian Camp and Big Two-Hearted River. I find his style too monotonous for novel-length writing and his later writing is dragged down by the fact that he's just not that insightful. I think his accomplishment has more to do with what he did with the English language rather than his ideas, which tend to be rather sophomoric.
Posted by: NitneLiun

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/22/09 01:36 AM

You're doing yourself a disservice if you don't read F. Scott Fitzgerald's short stories. His novels have always gotten the attention but his collection of short stories contain some real gems.
Posted by: Barry the Pirate

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/22/09 09:58 AM

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Marriage is a archaic institution, and I don't wish to be institutionalized. You will only truely know a women when she divorces you. Then you see the succubus demon she truly is




Not true. My ex- cunt was an evil demon (not a succubus tho...then she'd have had to have sex with me) long before we divorced. Quick example: When my dad died, I had the week off because my company gives a week's bereavement time. He died on a Tuesday and the funeral was Friday. Much had to be done. One of the days I was pretty much out of the house for the day...meeting with the preacher, the funeral director, trying to keep my mom from coming unhinged. When I got home, she asked where I'd been. I gave her a quick summary. Her reply was that she thought I was out paying bills, but that couldn't be because I never payed any bills. (towards the end money became her hammer because I wouldn't rise to her attempts to fight with me and I stopped caring that wouldn't fuck me..but she knew money and bills hit me where I lived, so it was pretty effective) On Thursday morning of that week, it became apparent to her I wasn't going to work. She asked, I told her I wasn't. "You can't tell me you're going to take this whole week off". It was that week that I realized the bith was fucking crazy and that I needed out.

Barry




The modern day Succubus has evolved they attack and drain you on Emotional, Spiritual and Financial levels.
(P.S: sorry to hear about such a fucking hell week for you..dam must have been very stressfull)




Thanx. I appreciate it. It truly was the worst week of my life. My emotions were really really raw. I never expected any support from her, but at the same time I wasn't expecting her to add to the problem. It was like flipping. The day after my dad's service, I woke up and knew it was over. It really made her finally leaving so much easier. When she pulled out of the driveaway that last day, it felt like a a huge 2 ton heavy thing had been lifted off of me.

Barry
Posted by: backdoorman

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/22/09 10:04 AM

I was on IV antibiotics and needed help administering them. My ex told me she was going away for the weekend to Gatlinburg[on my fucking money no less] and I asked her who was going to help me with my meds? Her reply ? "That's not my problem !" That's when I threw her out of the house and sent her home to mommy.
Posted by: Barry the Pirate

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/22/09 10:12 AM

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I'll prob regret this but I'll bite...

I'm a voracious reader. I'll read pretty much anything and go through 2-3 books a week. I'm esp. fond of crime novels, true crime and period books. (as in time period...not menstrual for those literary challenged.). My all time fav. book since I was a kid is A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith. Set in turn of the century Brooklyn.




Thanks. Any favourite crime writers? (I don't know much about crime novels. Tom Clancy is probably not a crime novelist?)

I don't quite get the 'period books' thing. Isn't every story set in a certain period of time? Is there a specific period of time you like more than others?




For novels I like Jeffrey Deaver and James Patterson. For true crime Ann Rule is a fav. Though I like them all.

"Period books" are usually set at a specific time and place in the past. Turn of the century Brooklyn, Victorian London, WW2 Japan, etc...




I hate Ann Rule, although her Bundy book was great. I've tried to read her stuff over the years and just find it to be yammering. When she came out with her Green River Killer book, I was done. It was all about her and how threatened she felt by him being in the same neighborhood as her.

I guess I do little fiction. I'm more a history/ current events guy. No writers I particulary favor, tho. Just whatever catches my attention.

Barry
Posted by: Barry the Pirate

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/22/09 10:21 AM

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For novels I like Hemingway, Updike, Garcia Marquez, and Vargas Llosa the best. For true crime, Wambaugh.




Can't you get banned from XPT for reading stuff like that?

Not too long ago I finally read "For Whom the Bell Tolls". It was assigned in Secondary School, High School, and College and I never read it until a few months ago.

I read "The Sun Also Rises" many years ago (after also skipping it in school) as a drunken bum in Rota, Spain on a bus ride back from a bullfight in Madrid to Barcelona and loved it. Since then, I try to read something by Hemmingway every year, even if it is a short story.

No matter how much of a "big name" Hemmingway is, he is an under-appreciated genius.

Hemmingway and Wambaugh are writers. Updike is over-rated. Garcia Marquez is a one hit wonder and I don't know Vargas Llosa from a hole in the wall.






I was the same with Orwell. Had 1984 assigned in high school, but I couldn't appreciate it until after after school. Kind of like Disneyland when I was 12. I appreciated it much more when I was 30.

Barry
Posted by: cameronkeys

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/22/09 01:38 PM

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I'll prob regret this but I'll bite...

I'm a voracious reader. I'll read pretty much anything and go through 2-3 books a week. I'm esp. fond of crime novels, true crime and period books. (as in time period...not menstrual for those literary challenged.). My all time fav. book since I was a kid is A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith. Set in turn of the century Brooklyn.




Thanks. Any favourite crime writers? (I don't know much about crime novels. Tom Clancy is probably not a crime novelist?)

I don't quite get the 'period books' thing. Isn't every story set in a certain period of time? Is there a specific period of time you like more than others?




For novels I like Jeffrey Deaver and James Patterson. For true crime Ann Rule is a fav. Though I like them all.

"Period books" are usually set at a specific time and place in the past. Turn of the century Brooklyn, Victorian London, WW2 Japan, etc...




I hate Ann Rule, although her Bundy book was great. I've tried to read her stuff over the years and just find it to be yammering. When she came out with her Green River Killer book, I was done. It was all about her and how threatened she felt by him being in the same neighborhood as her.

I guess I do little fiction. I'm more a history/ current events guy. No writers I particulary favor, tho. Just whatever catches my attention.

Barry




I'm reading the Bundy book right now.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/22/09 02:06 PM

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Ding-Ding-Ding. Winner.
Posted by: Barry the Pirate

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/22/09 02:54 PM

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I'll prob regret this but I'll bite...

I'm a voracious reader. I'll read pretty much anything and go through 2-3 books a week. I'm esp. fond of crime novels, true crime and period books. (as in time period...not menstrual for those literary challenged.). My all time fav. book since I was a kid is A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith. Set in turn of the century Brooklyn.




Thanks. Any favourite crime writers? (I don't know much about crime novels. Tom Clancy is probably not a crime novelist?)

I don't quite get the 'period books' thing. Isn't every story set in a certain period of time? Is there a specific period of time you like more than others?




For novels I like Jeffrey Deaver and James Patterson. For true crime Ann Rule is a fav. Though I like them all.

"Period books" are usually set at a specific time and place in the past. Turn of the century Brooklyn, Victorian London, WW2 Japan, etc...




I hate Ann Rule, although her Bundy book was great. I've tried to read her stuff over the years and just find it to be yammering. When she came out with her Green River Killer book, I was done. It was all about her and how threatened she felt by him being in the same neighborhood as her.

I guess I do little fiction. I'm more a history/ current events guy. No writers I particulary favor, tho. Just whatever catches my attention.

Barry




I'm reading the Bundy book right now.




I read it in Grade 7. It fascinated me and let me on a life long interest in the minds of serial killers. We seem to have more than our fair share in the Great Northwest.

I won't spoil the end for you.

Barry
Posted by: geek

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/22/09 03:29 PM

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I missed this post the first few dozen times around. I think you relate to the point I was initially trying to make, Geek. How odd!

Having realized all of what you have just said, would you ever make the sacrifice? If so, for whom?





Fuck no. Are you out of your mind? "Normal women" have enough issues. Why ask for more problems? And that's before worrying about e esoteric items like career and social standing.
Posted by: freestylah

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/22/09 05:35 PM

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For novels I like Jeffrey Deaver and James Patterson. For true crime Ann Rule is a fav. Though I like them all.

"Period books" are usually set at a specific time and place in the past. Turn of the century Brooklyn, Victorian London, WW2 Japan, etc...




Never heard of Ann Rule or Jeffrey Deaver. James Patterson sounds familiar (I've seen his books), but I've never read anything by him.

Thanks for the answers.
Posted by: cameronkeys

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/22/09 06:11 PM

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For novels I like Jeffrey Deaver and James Patterson. For true crime Ann Rule is a fav. Though I like them all.

"Period books" are usually set at a specific time and place in the past. Turn of the century Brooklyn, Victorian London, WW2 Japan, etc...




Never heard of Ann Rule or Jeffrey Deaver. James Patterson sounds familiar (I've seen his books), but I've never read anything by him.

Thanks for the answers.


ever see the movie the bone collector? That's Jeffrey Deaver. He has several books with the Lincoln Ryhme character
Posted by: E.Y.Davis

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/22/09 07:02 PM

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Since then, I try to read something by Hemmingway every year, even if it is a short story.






I was the same with Orwell. Had 1984 assigned in high school, but I couldn't appreciate it until after after school. Kind of like Disneyland when I was 12. I appreciated it much more when I was 30.

Barry




I think I meant to say "I try to read something by Hemmingway every few years..." not every year, heh.


Anyway, no book worth reading can really be appreciated by a teenager, but I think it is important to make introductions to the act and the main contributors to the field anyway.

If you like Orwell, I'd suggest "Down and Out in Paris & London", "The Road to Wigan Pier" and, obviously "Animal Farm" even if you read it as a kid. I read, or re-read, most of Orwell that is readily available after I started reading Christopher Hitchens (a fan and biographer of Orwell). It was after reading Orwell's "Homage to Catalonia" that I decided to go back and read Hemmingway's "For Whom the Bell Tolls" just a few months ago.
Posted by: E.Y.Davis

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/22/09 07:08 PM

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Yes, I assumed that is what you meant. What I meant is you might like the flavor of the tea that Hemmingway makes under the right circumstances and that particular brew might be the most palatable introduction to his brand.

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/22/09 07:12 PM

there is no such thing as an EX-porn whore......

its the same sort of thing as say NA/AA....

once an addict always an addict......
Posted by: wannacorndog

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/22/09 08:28 PM

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there is no such thing as an EX-porn whore......

its the same sort of thing as say NA/AA....

once an addict always an addict......




O Great Wise One
Posted by: ivorenginedriver

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/22/09 08:49 PM

IMO Hemingway's wickedly dark "The Shor Happy Life of Frrancis Macomber" is a great short story, good place to start with Hemmingway. I tremendously enjoyed his novella "The Old Man and the Sea" and his first major novel "A Farewell to Arms". With respect to Updike, I enjoyed the four Rabbit novels, and recommend them. One Hundred Years of Solitude is the place to start with Garcia Marquez, but I also heartily recommend The General in His Labyrinth. Vargas Llosa ought to be more highly regarded in the United States. My favorite work of his is The War at the End of the World, although Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter would probably have more general appeal.
Posted by: the unknown pervert

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/22/09 11:00 PM

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Anyway, no book worth reading can really be appreciated by a teenager, but I think it is important to make introductions to the act and the main contributors to the field anyway.






I must be a mutant because I fully appreciated Dune, I Sing the Body Electric, and The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy while in my teens. I also appreciated The Unbearable Lightness of Being while in my early 20s at the latest.
Posted by: have2cit

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/23/09 07:05 AM

To get this post back on track for a second: Yes I would, as long as she wasn't currently hooking/stripping/porning, but then I don't have inadequacy issues.
Posted by: Blue

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/23/09 07:45 AM

In the context you asked the question, no I can't see marrying a PW.

There are situations where I could see it. When I was young hell yeah. You'd know it was probably doomed, but it would have certain perks for a young man, at least the young man I was. Partying, drugs, sex...what the hell.

If a guy kept his head on straight and his eyes opened it seems like there would be some great times to be had between "I do" and "get the fuck out".
Posted by: cameronkeys

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/23/09 10:55 AM

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Anyway, no book worth reading can really be appreciated by a teenager, but I think it is important to make introductions to the act and the main contributors to the field anyway.






I must be a mutant because I fully appreciated Dune, I Sing the Body Electric, and The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy while in my teens. I also appreciated The Unbearable Lightness of Being while in my early 20s at the latest.




Ah the Hitchhiker's Guide. A true classic! Have loved it since my teens.

If you want dark classics...I prefer Kurt Vonnegut to any mentioned here.
Posted by: Uomo Grassissimo!!

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/23/09 11:20 AM

DaBurglar's Book Thread is in AWOP if anyone is interested ...
Posted by: Bluecipher

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/23/09 01:01 PM

We need a serious author to marry one and then write a short story collection about the experience.
Posted by: cameronkeys

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/23/09 01:41 PM

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I read it in Grade 7. It fascinated me and let me on a life long interest in the minds of serial killers. We seem to have more than our fair share in the Great Northwest.

I won't spoil the end for you.

Barry




Ha..I know how it ends. I do agree with you on the Green River Killer book though. If I dont know the outcome of a case when I start reading the book, I dont research it til I'm done. Just like any book, I dont want to spoil the enjoyment of reading it by finding out how it ends. I did not know much about the GRK, and I was PISSED after reading all that, that he was never caught. Like...REALLY? Ugh.

I too have a scholastic interest in serial killers. In college I took a lot of crim classes hoping to eventually go into criminal psych.

If you like the psych research of serial killers I just read a great book a friend sent me. Female Serial Killers, how and why women become monsters. by Peter Vronsky. Covers a LOT of different cases from Agrippina to Aileen Wuornos. Really interesting.
Posted by: conundrum

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/23/09 02:07 PM

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We need a serious author to marry one and then write a short story collection about the experience.




A stage play could be quite interesting, too. Something like an X-rated version of Arthur Miller's "Finishing the Picture"? Today's pornstar nuttiness has nothing on some of Marilyns antics...
Posted by: Claude Goddard

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/23/09 02:31 PM

I like the literary derail more than the OT, so I'm going to keep on keeping on.

Vargas Llosa's Time of the Hero is a great book.

On the porn tip there's a great fictionalized take on Michael and Roberta Findlay, 60s and 70s era pornographers, in Steve Erickson's The Tide Comes in at Midnight.

52 Pick-up by Elmore Leonard is a keeper with some porn background and Ray Garton's trashy Live Girls is a great vampires on 42nd street read.


Posted by: desh

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/24/09 06:43 AM

lolz at people showing off their literary knowledge on a porn board...
Posted by: have2cit

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/24/09 06:51 AM

It helps distract them from the fact that sexually experienced women make them feel inadequate.
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Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/24/09 10:33 AM

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Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 11/24/09 04:28 PM

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Posted by: E.Y.Davis

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 03/25/10 03:53 AM

Hmmm, so I was just lurking along and reading posts and noticed that this was back at the top of GPT but nobody had actually responded to it. So, who bumped this post and why? How can somebody bump a post without actually responding to it?




I also remember I got quite a few PMs from this post from people who apparently were too "nervous" to actually post their true thoughts in the original thread. I tried to respond to a few, but I was still a bit of a newbie and I think I might not have responded to everybody.






Getting back to my original post:

With the revelations of Jesse James and Tiger Woods we see (as I claimed in the original post) that it is one thing to have an affair with a porn star, but quite another to have "a relationship" with one. Uhmmm, not because I am against dating porn stars personally, Gia Jordan (who thought I was an asshole, at least in part, for starting this thread--if I remember correctly), but because I live in the real world and know how it works.





P.S.


By the way, I thought about starting a thread in AWOP discussing what books and authors people liked (rather than what you are currently reading), but deferred to Da Burglar's "What are you reading" thread instead.
Posted by: 99% Fiction

Re: Would you marry an ex-porn actress? - 03/25/10 07:38 AM

If you put up a post, then delete it quickly, it will bump a thread. I did it the other day by accident, when I attempted to post a picture that was way too big and I didn't feel like re sizing it.